Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Boredfrom]

I think there's a worthwhile discussion if that "baseline" expectation is just too high nowadays. Like if a major AAA game launched with PS3 era visuals but a rock-solid everything else to decrease the cost and time needed to bring it to market I feel it would be eviscerated by reviews and gamers alike; so at that point is maybe the graphical expectations such that you need to compromise other aspects of the game to stay on target or compromise nothing and end up with 7+ years dev cycles and needing to sell 10 million copies to break even.

Such BS

Most of RE were complaining that Rise of the Ronin looked graphically terrible and the game sold well enough.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

When Resetera mods are given the option to

1. Ban Twohearts
or
2. Continue to let them harm the Burka Brigade's image

and they choose 2, there must be some mods chuckling in the background.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

HamasEra wishes they were like the terrorist group PoliEra. They have no fangs and can only cry about moderation while also sucking up to Nep. At least get a Discord group and start a harassment campaign.

All so tiring. Noodle at least fought back against the oppressors.  

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sen-katie-britt-introduces-bill-to-create-federal-database-of-pregnant-people.867891/page-2?post=122811522#post-122811522

1. Sees outrageous headline.
   
2. Sees an unknown (to me) website.
   
3. Does 5 minutes of research.
   
4. Sees that this bill does NOT create a federal registry of pregnant people.
   

Y'all, stay sharp. There are as many people out there trying to mislead the political left as there are trying to mislead the political right.

The article's headline is garbage and whoever wrote it knows it.

Edit: I don't support the bill and think it's a terrible waste of time and taxpayer money, but let's debate legislation on its merits. Not on its clickbait framing.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-new-propaganda-war.866685/?post=122756274#post-122756274

Be careful with what social media users and "news" sites you trust. I'm not going to lie, we've been seeing more stuff from straight up conspiracy theory sites/accounts lately in a lot of places and it's wild how normalized that sort of thinking has become online in the last year or two. Shit is scary as hell.

 

B-Duds has queitly changed the name of the thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/senator-katie-britt-mocked-for-cringe-video-about-pregnancy-database.867891/



Edits:
He's using the title of the Newsweek article someone else posted to show that the op was clickbait:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/senator-katie-britt-mocked-for-cringe-video-about-pregnancy-database.867891/page-2?post=122814708#post-122814708

Original article:
https://meidasnews.com/news/sen-katie-britt-introduces-bill-to-create-federal-database-of-pregnant-people

[Nintex]

This OP is probably not gonna be as detailed as this potential discussion deserves because I have work in a bit, so I'm looking forward to reading everyone's thoughts, but yeah:

The news around the industry for the past few months has been so fucking depressing that it almost feels like I should be thankful games are just released at this point.

Like as time goes on it's gonna be hard for me to read a review that has any permutation of "game could've used more of ___" when the game probably took 6 years to make already, might barely break even, and a ton of people will be laid off after it.

Performance/graphics for these big AAA games were never really something I complained about in the first place, but now I'm gonna wince extra hard when reading them.

It genuinely feels like not that we should lower our expectations, but that core gamer expectations became too high in the first place.

Obviously game criticism should never go away as criticism is essential for any art form, but there's definitely things that'll pop up in reviews from now on that'll get a "the industry is in as dire a state as it is, and THIS is what we're worried about?" reaction from me now more than ever.

Idk, I've just never felt this way about this hobby and it feels odd. I know we have a lot of critics here, so I'd love to read y'all's thoughts too on the current state of the gaming landscape and if that'll be in your mind as you write reviews.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-current-state-of-the-industry-has-me-feeling-weird-about-game-criticism.869649/

[Boredfrom]

When Resetera mods are given the option to

1. Ban Twohearts
or
2. Continue to let them harm the Burka Brigade's image

and they choose 2, there must be some mods chuckling in the background.

Being fair, you have idiots like ScrappyFan genuinely thinking she is not a troll, so they cannot do a lot until TransRE wises up.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-square-enix-confirms-us-eu-layoffs-as-part-of-restructuring.869508/?post=122917776#post-122917776

Why would anyone work in this industry. They're treated like shit.

Because work is work?

[Nintex]

You can make complicated business analysis all you want but we all know what happened, Phil Spencer is retarded toddler.

Spencer: "I'm going to need money for a new Xbox or else Sony will beat me up."
CFO: "Another New Xbox? You just got a new Xbox!"
Spencer: "Pleaasseeeee???? Sony is also getting a new PlayStation"
CFO: "Ok, jeez. Guess that family never knows when to quit huh, why can't you two be like the Nintendo next door and play with cheaper toys?"

Spoiler: additional lore (click to show)(click to hide)

Spencer: "I'm going to need 4 billion for Minecraft."
CFO (Mommy): "Ok, just make sure it doesn't bark too loud and plays with Nintendo and Sony too, ok Philly?"
Spencer: "Yes mommy"

Spencer: "Sony is playing with Bethesda, I want Bethesda too!!"
CFO: "Wow, that's an expensive breed dear and she has quite a few kittens"
Spencer: "Please??? I'll take good care of them all!!"
CFO: "Well you saved your allowance... and you managed to keep Minecraft alive... ok I'll give you the money but you keep feeding Minecraft and Gamepass ok?"
Spencer: "YES mommy!! Hurray!"

Spencer: "Mommy mommy Sony is still beating me up, I need Activision to protect me"
CFO: "Activision? I don't think that's a good idea Philly, daddy is going to be VERY ANGRY if we spend that much on a dog, besides she has many pups"
Spencer: "Pleassseeee, bobby wants to sell his Activision, he only wants 70 billion for it"
CFO: "Well, I'll tell you what if you can make a really nice presentation about why we should get Activision I will consider it"
Spencer: "Yaayyy yippieeeee"

*one very messy "you should've told me the dog would shit himself in the car" pick-up later*

CFO: "PHILLARD SPENCER COME DOWN RIGHT NOW YOUNG MAN"
Spencer: "Yes mommy?"
CFO: "WHY DOES GAMEPASS SMELL LIKE SHIT, DID YOU FORGET TO FEED MINECRAFT? 2 OF POOR BETHESDAS KITTENS WERE STARVING....EVEN YOUR FAVORITE TANGO!! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS!! I DON'T SEE RARE MOVING IN HIS FISH TANK... OH PHILLY WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?"
Spencer: "Sorry mommy... I was just distracted with Activision and Sarah... boohooohooo"
CFO: "You'll have to explain this mess you made to dad Phil!"

CEO: "What's happening Kiddo? That's alright now Philly, stop crying. Daddy is home! Now that I think about it Bethesda did get a bit fat and some of her kittens seem a bit under the weather... maybe a diet isn't so bad after all, right Philly?"
Spencer: "sniff"
CEO: "They also need some exercise, why won't you let them play with Sony and Nintendo. You can all be friends."
Spencer: "But..but... mean Sony is getting a PlayStation PRO from miss AMD!!!"
CEO: "Now now Phil, remember what we taught you about sharing. Maybe Sony will share their Pro with you if you share Activision with them?"
Spencer: "sniff... I don't know daddy... I mean... it'll probably make people angry and stuff"
CEO: "Just call him and see what he says ok, this could be the start of a wonderful friendship. We'll take care of the sick kittens"

*Spencer runs off*

CFO: "sigh... what the hell?"
CEO: "Don't what the hell me woman, you've spend all this money on these damn animals. We're spending, what $5000 a month on Kitty litter alone?"
CFO: "I JUST WANTED HIM TO BE HAPPY"
CEO: "Yeah, well what about Excel, Windows and OpenAI, shouldn't they be happy too? I don't see you handing them 70 billion for a dog they like?"
CFO: "Well you NEGLECTED HIM"
CEO: "yeah yeah... now get the shotgun before he comes back so we can at least start cutting some costs"

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-square-enix-confirms-us-eu-layoffs-as-part-of-restructuring.869508/?post=122917776#post-122917776

Why would anyone work in this industry. They're treated like shit.

Because work is work?

why would anyone mod a forum. They're treated like shit.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-390?post=122917248#post-122917248

10% of why I want a Darkstalkers revival is the long shot possibility of an incubus counterpart to Morrigan that is just as sexed up as her in a fun way rather than aggressive and creepy. Hell, make him inexplicably Irish and give him a matching deity name. Angus Og would be on brand.

Failing that, there's always Rikuo.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/JayAxer/status/1032704952706027521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1032704952706027521%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=[/tweet]

Dice said men, not furry 

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ok-capitalism-is-spiraling-out-of-control-right.868842/page-4?post=122893644#post-122893644
louiedog

And they've got people convinced they too can achieve the same.

My college roommate literally jumped up and down on the couch clapping and giggling while watching the news when the US was dropping bombs on a foreign country. I'm going to say it again. He LITERALLY did that. The reason? In his words, "I'd be liberal but I'm planning on making a lot of money some day." He decided whatever people the Republicans in control were okay killing was fine because he might want to keep some money in his pocket some day in the future.

NepNep

You should've dragged him into the street and whooped his ass.

Just like you did to your capitalist step-dad, right NepNep? Right?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Sure Nep's stepdad gave her a terrible deal on the Nissan payment plan but what is she to do? It's capitalism's fault.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/finally-got-back-to-watching-the-boys-and-i-got-things-to-say-about-homelander.869796/?post=122930418#post-122930418

How chuds think he's the good guy i will never understand

[Nintex]

Hermen Hulst new Sony CEO, Sony has given up on Japan.

[benji]

The Bire administration might as well come out and say they just want opinions pre-approved by white liberals. What a joke of a forum! Y'all haven't even had the decency to show up your faces around here to apologize after your latest pathetic stunt doxing the man who is going to bring down the Illinois State administration.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/finally-got-back-to-watching-the-boys-and-i-got-things-to-say-about-homelander.869796/?post=122930418#post-122930418

How chuds think he's the good guy i will never understand

The same people think the same of Joker (2019), Walter White, Rick Sanchez, and Patrick Bateman. Its vice fantasy.

I mean they know he's the bad guy of the story, but they still root for him because he's a Aryan power fantasy and most chuds are White suprmacists/nazis.

Did they even read the comics or watch the show? There was literally a Nazi supe  . Homelander's pops is a freaking Nazi

[Snoopy]

Day 10 of Noodle Watch. Still no love for Brother Noodle from Nepelinski. Absolute fascism.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Nepnep is all bark and no walk

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ok-capitalism-is-spiraling-out-of-control-right.868842/page-7

 
All of these advances come from forces opposing capitalism and threatening to leverage the inequality it creates against the ruling class.

 
Those rights and increases in the standard of living were not just handed down one day by magnanimous capital holders who thought, "I guess I have enough now.". They were earned in literal blood by the collective actions of labour movments as they were beaten and killed by police and strike breakers on the payroll of capital holders.
Also this. The gall to say "you work less now than you did before capitalism because of capitalism."

First of all, that's not true. Feudal peasants didn't work 8+ hours every day. Work day length increased with capitalism because capitalists want infinite money, which necessitates producing as much crap as possible, which means we work beyond our productive capacity and even what automation should entail.

Second, the rights we have today, rights which are slowly being stripped today, were won from people literally fighting capitalists to the death.

 

Yes, of course. But those people fighting for workers' rights weren't fighting the system.

They absolutely were fighting the system. The system produced the conditions of a 50-million hour workday. It's like saying slavery doesn't lead to slave revolts. Like, what????

In which capitalism has driven technological innovation and incentivize growth and efficiency like advances in automation and AI that has significantly decreased the time required to produce goods and services which is a hellscape, but also capitalism has made everyone work their fingers to the bone for infinite growth - which is a hellscape.  Both realities exist at the same time.   Almost as if Nepenthe will insist on any scenario to empower her ridiculous ideology.

[Propagandhim]

Yes, I'm aware of that. Just as well though, I think we look at pre-capitalism and post-capitalism in terms of a very narrow Western lens, and also without regard for looking at human development internationally as a broad comparison. English Feudalism isn't the same as African feudalism which isn't the same as Japanese feudalism, and indeed, many Indigenous societies didn't even engage in feudalism at all. Communalism and communalist tendencies tended to pervade Indigenous and African societies which allowed for a more dignified existence than European peasantry experienced considering the general technological advancement of the world at the time. Indeed, it's already been posted here by someone else, I think Thordinson, but abject poverty was relatively rare in pre-capitalist societies, and subsequently were the individualist attitudes that come with capitalism.

But of course, this is all happening in a time before automation and air conditioning and Amazon and shit. The conditions thousands of years ago were worse in spite of the economic systems in play just as a matter of the fact that we hadn't developed the knowledge and technology yet to stave off the worst that the material world throws at us. Yes, if you ask me if I would ever want to give up having water pipes or garbage disposal, then no, but I would also argue that I don't think the existence of pipes was inevitable only by way of capitalism. As I said, humans develop whether we like it or not, and I would be optimistic and argue we would develop more if we were less hamstrung by the demands of capitalism. How much sheer human potential has been lost off the African continent alone since the Slave Trade? We probably could've been living like the Jetsons by now.

*spit take*

Indeed, it's already been posted here by someone else, I think Thordinson, but abject poverty was relatively rare in pre-capitalist societies, and subsequently were the individualist attitudes that come with capitalism.

  

Instead of technological advancement and medical knowledge that was spurned by capitalism, I prefer an extremely brutish and short life for me and my loved ones, as we try to withstand the horrors of widespread disease, frequent famine, warring tribes, brutally unfair social stratification and repression, lack of education, poor sanitation, and lack of basic civic infrastructure.  How does nobody on this forum push back on this imbecile?

How much sheer human potential has been lost off the African continent alone since the Slave Trade? We probably could've been living like the Jetsons by now.

You can't demand higher standards for society and expect a technological utopia when you've done absolutely nothing with your life.   The messenger matters when it comes to this sort of criticism.  You've done nothing with your life, why should you expect more from the world than you expect of yourself?


who am i talking to?

[books]

Feudal peasants didn't work 8+ hours every day. Work day length increased with capitalism because capitalists want infinite money, which necessitates producing as much crap as possible, which means we work beyond our productive capacity and even what automation should entail.

I'm not an expert like CapNep but didn't they work the hours of the sun? What is a feudal farmer supposed to work on when they can't see? How did these ancient workers pay off their Versa payments with the exploitative borrowing rate?

How much sheer human potential has been lost off the African continent alone since the Slave Trade? We probably could've been living like the Jetsons by now

.

Coincidentally, I'm reading the history of Africa right now (its a DK book, so lots of pictures), and Africans were too busy feuding with other Africans to come up with Black Panther technology.

[Uncle]

historical revisionism is one of the more infuriating aspects of the far left

"oh didn't you know, peasants were actually happy and carefree"

"oh yeah, this famous historical figure from greece? she was black actually"

"this ancient emperor was actually trans, yeah take that bigots, you have to refer to her as 'she' now"

"this woman was buried with a sword, that means she had a masculine role in her society so actually ancient societies were totally trans-friendly"

[Propagandhim]

Feudal peasants didn't work 8+ hours every day. Work day length increased with capitalism because capitalists want infinite money, which necessitates producing as much crap as possible, which means we work beyond our productive capacity and even what automation should entail.

I'm not an expert like CapNep but didn't they work the hours of the sun? What is a feudal farmer supposed to work on when they can't see? How did these ancient workers pay off their Versa payments with the exploitative borrowing rate?

They worked less raw hours doing harsh feudal peasant shit because they needed time to go home to charitably fund equitable markets for cartoon animal pictures.

[Propagandhim]

I don't understand why Nepenthe just doesn't get the fuck up and leave and go live a pre-capitalist, tribal lifestyle among the "noble savages" she fetishizes so much.   The Korowai in Indonesia, the San and Hadza in Africa, the Yanomami in South America, the Sentinelese and Jarawa in India - take your pick on which subsistence living you want and go do it.  It isn't hard to get up and move.  Are white people holding a gun to her head and forcing her to live this undignified life?

[Potato]

I think there's a worthwhile discussion if that "baseline" expectation is just too high nowadays. Like if a major AAA game launched with PS3 era visuals but a rock-solid everything else to decrease the cost and time needed to bring it to market I feel it would be eviscerated by reviews and gamers alike; so at that point is maybe the graphical expectations such that you need to compromise other aspects of the game to stay on target or compromise nothing and end up with 7+ years dev cycles and needing to sell 10 million copies to break even.

Such BS

Most of RE were complaining that Rise of the Ronin looked graphically terrible and the game sold well enough.

The vast majority of the industry and almost all of the consumers are in a post-"how are the graphics" world except the Sony Ponies who have no other reason to justify their fanboyism if they can't talk about "the graphics". 

Even the PC gaming crowd, who spend thousands on bleeding edge technology, don't even give a shit anymore. 

But these chucklefucks who have been playing the exact same games with prettier graphics since the fucking PS3 just can't let go. 

Sony Ponies. The biggest retards in gaming.

[kaleidoscopium]

Nishino is a good choice for hardware but I have absolutely zero faith in Hulst. What a horrible leader he's been so far.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gi-biz-playstation-names-hermen-hulst-and-hideaki-nishino-as-its-new-ceos.869805/?post=122931126#post-122931126

[Potato]

When Resetera mods are given the option to

1. Ban Twohearts
or
2. Continue to let them harm the Burka Brigade's image

and they choose 2, there must be some mods chuckling in the background.

Nah, dude has cracked the code:

• Transbian
  
• Headmates
  
• Anime avatars 
  
• Burka brigade
  

The next time he gets heat for pushing the boundaries, I guarantee he pulls the indigenous card to completely checkmate the mods.

[Ethan]

Oh definitely.

Edit: Sent way too soon lol. I was going to say I long for a public transportation system like Japan's. Just as well, it should be noted that a lot of the push for electric vehicles is simultaneously coming at the expense of public transportation initiatives. Because of you can get to where you want to go without a car, how is Elon going to sell billions of Teslas?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ok-capitalism-is-spiraling-out-of-control-right.868842/page-8?post=122927055#post-122927055

Who's gonna tell Nep that it's in very large part privatized?

[Potato]

Yes, I'm aware of that. Just as well though, I think we look at pre-capitalism and post-capitalism in terms of a very narrow Western lens, and also without regard for looking at human development internationally as a broad comparison. English Feudalism isn't the same as African feudalism which isn't the same as Japanese feudalism, and indeed, many Indigenous societies didn't even engage in feudalism at all. Communalism and communalist tendencies tended to pervade Indigenous and African societies which allowed for a more dignified existence than European peasantry experienced considering the general technological advancement of the world at the time. Indeed, it's already been posted here by someone else, I think Thordinson, but abject poverty was relatively rare in pre-capitalist societies, and subsequently were the individualist attitudes that come with capitalism.

But of course, this is all happening in a time before automation and air conditioning and Amazon and shit. The conditions thousands of years ago were worse in spite of the economic systems in play just as a matter of the fact that we hadn't developed the knowledge and technology yet to stave off the worst that the material world throws at us. Yes, if you ask me if I would ever want to give up having water pipes or garbage disposal, then no, but I would also argue that I don't think the existence of pipes was inevitable only by way of capitalism. As I said, humans develop whether we like it or not, and I would be optimistic and argue we would develop more if we were less hamstrung by the demands of capitalism. How much sheer human potential has been lost off the African continent alone since the Slave Trade? We probably could've been living like the Jetsons by now.

*spit take*

Indeed, it's already been posted here by someone else, I think Thordinson, but abject poverty was relatively rare in pre-capitalist societies, and subsequently were the individualist attitudes that come with capitalism.

  

Instead of technological advancement and medical knowledge that was spurned by capitalism, I prefer an extremely brutish and short life for me and my loved ones, as we try to withstand the horrors of widespread disease, frequent famine, warring tribes, brutally unfair social stratification and repression, lack of education, poor sanitation, and lack of basic civic infrastructure.  How does nobody on this forum push back on this imbecile?

How much sheer human potential has been lost off the African continent alone since the Slave Trade? We probably could've been living like the Jetsons by now.

You can't demand higher standards for society and expect a technological utopia when you've done absolutely nothing with your life.   The messenger matters when it comes to this sort of criticism.  You've done nothing with your life, why should you expect more from the world than you expect of yourself?


who am i talking to?

She genuinely thinks Wakanda was stolen from us, doesn't she?

[Potato]

I don't understand why Nepenthe just doesn't get the fuck up and leave and go live a pre-capitalist, tribal lifestyle among the "noble savages" she fetishizes so much.   The Korowai in Indonesia, the San and Hadza in Africa, the Yanomami in South America, the Sentinelese and Jarawa in India - take your pick on which subsistence living you want and go do it.  It isn't hard to get up and move.  Are white people holding a gun to her head and forcing her to live this undignified life?

I wonder how many fish she can trade a fursuit or cartoon dog fursona for with an African tribesman?