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[AldusMoneyPenny]

I've said it before but I'm at the point where I'm genuinely considering getting a license and purchasing a firearm for self defense purposes.
I'm a (mostly) closeted cisgender pansexual white man who's primarily been in hetero relationships so I'm not exactly walking around all day feeling targeted but I go to pride. I don't hide my queer passions, affiliation with my local queer community or suppress myself so long as I'm not around family. Fuck, it's really not even about me. If I were murdered, fuck it, but I'll be damned if I live the rest of my life fearing for the safety of other queer people.
I don't feel totally comfortable with the idea as someone who's struggled with suicidal ideation since I was young (it's gotten better but it's never truly gone away) and is vehemently anti-gun in just about every conceivable way and circumstance but I just don't see an alternative at this point.
Protecting the people in your community is how queer people survive. To a lesser extent, I should try to protect myself too. If I have to live in fear of some psychopathic bigot with a gun, I should have the ability to try and stop them since there still isn't any effort from governing bodies to protect us in any meaningful way.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-warns-of-possible-pride-month-attacks-worldwide.874992/page-2?post=123167193#post-123167193
Reads like the posts they find 6 months before a mass shooter goes on their spree.

Hopefully they're not going abroad during June where ISIS folks hang out, then!

[Uncle]

I've said it before but I'm at the point where I'm genuinely considering getting a license and purchasing a firearm for self defense purposes.

I'm a (mostly) closeted cisgender pansexual white man who's primarily been in hetero relationships so I'm not exactly walking around all day feeling targeted but I go to pride. I don't hide my queer passions, affiliation with my local queer community or suppress myself so long as I'm not around family. Fuck, it's really not even about me. If I were murdered, fuck it, but I'll be damned if I live the rest of my life fearing for the safety of other queer people.

I don't feel totally comfortable with the idea as someone who's struggled with suicidal ideation since I was young (it's gotten better but it's never truly gone away) and is vehemently anti-gun in just about every conceivable way and circumstance but I just don't see an alternative at this point.

Protecting the people in your community is how queer people survive. To a lesser extent, I should try to protect myself too. If I have to live in fear of some psychopathic bigot with a gun, I should have the ability to try and stop them since there still isn't any effort from governing bodies to protect us in any meaningful way.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-warns-of-possible-pride-month-attacks-worldwide.874992/page-2?post=123167193#post-123167193

Reads like the posts they find 6 months before a mass shooter goes on their spree.

[YuYu]

New article on noodle soup and co, includes his mugshot. 

https://agitationrising.com/peace-activists-arrested-for-occupying-isu-building-students-for-palestine/?amp=1

Amazing that the Reeject is the most normal looking one.

Which one is he?

[Uncle]

New article on noodle soup and co, includes his mugshot. 

https://agitationrising.com/peace-activists-arrested-for-occupying-isu-building-students-for-palestine/?amp=1

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Amazing that the Reeject is the most normal looking one.

Which one is he?

he's the yasuke

[ComeAgain]

On the contrary, I think it is a big deal that a lot of the reflexive reactions to Yasuke starring in this was a mixture of anger and a feeling that something was "taken" from Asian men, which is a sentiment that has been expressed in other threads. When Black representation causes that kind of feeling, I'm inclined to want to ask why.

Asian men literally had this taken from them. There’s no need to have quotes around taken, you insanely racist cunt.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-17-2024-ign-let%E2%80%99s-not-pretend-we%E2%80%99re-mad-the-new-assassins-creed-shadows-samurai-isn%E2%80%99t-asian.875043/?post=123169860#post-123169860

User banned (permanent): Whataboutisms and inflammatory racist commentary over multiple posts

There's definitely been some questions I've had concerning the nature of the disappointment of the new AC game utilizing Yasuke. The anger is easily explanatory- Black people's mere existence in media bring out the racists.

What utter nonsense, do you really believe every person that has an opinion about something is a racist? Surely you're mind can't just process things that way?. Let me ask you a simple question and see if you can just answer it in a few words with going into massive paragraphs.

What would your thoughts be if a female white person or game character was the main lead in a movie, game based in the 1700's in the US that was specifically about slavery? Now if your not ok with that then your a racist but if you are then your no different than people that maybe don't think a black samurai is the best fit?

See how not everything is so simple? And to give you some context so you don't have to look it up there were certainly a hell of a lot more white slaves than black samurai's if it's about representation.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-17-2024-ign-let%E2%80%99s-not-pretend-we%E2%80%99re-mad-the-new-assassins-creed-shadows-samurai-isn%E2%80%99t-asian.875043/page-2?post=123173535#post-123173535

User banned (permanent): Racist trolling over multiple posts, account in junior phase

While there is nothing wrong in having persons from any race in a game as a protagonist or supporting character or even as an antagonist, I think most people attribute Samurais and Ninjas with ethnically Japanese people and to some the DEI move made by Ubisoft could be construed as cultural appropriation.

I think the outrage is more about doing things just for the sake of DEI. There is so much about African history and culture that could have been part of this new game, but instead it appears to many as a Japan based game with tokenism. Which is dishonest and works against the idea of DEI itself i'd say.

It could still be a great game though, a Japanese Assassin's Creed has been long overdue. I personally look forward to it because I don't see games as a medium for social justice, but rather just for good gameplay and fun.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-17-2024-ign-let%E2%80%99s-not-pretend-we%E2%80%99re-mad-the-new-assassins-creed-shadows-samurai-isn%E2%80%99t-asian.875043/page-2?post=123174138#post-123174138

User Banned (2 Weeks): Concern trolling in a sensitive thread

And this group would not have watch Shogun without John Blackthorne as a white guy.

Are you saying that this group of complainers (I assume you think they're all white by your comment) are all racist and only watched Shogun because it had a white character?

No offense, but that's racist in of itself is it not?

I don't care about this game and only looked in here because I was curious what it was about. However, I loved Shogun. I thought the English pilot was the worst part. I think comments like yours tossing about racism accusations make things worse.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-17-2024-ign-let%E2%80%99s-not-pretend-we%E2%80%99re-mad-the-new-assassins-creed-shadows-samurai-isn%E2%80%99t-asian.875043/page-3?post=123176547#post-123176547

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissive whataboutism with regards to racial representation

Would people be OK if Mirage had a white guy? Or Origins had an Asian dude ? Same thing is applied here.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-17-2024-ign-let%E2%80%99s-not-pretend-we%E2%80%99re-mad-the-new-assassins-creed-shadows-samurai-isn%E2%80%99t-asian.875043/page-3?post=123177159#post-123177159

User banned (2 weeks): Concern trolling in a sensitive thread

Citation needed.

You can choose to not believe me. I am not linking something that will get me banned.

[HaughtyFrank]

Amazing that the Reeject is the most normal looking one.

Which one is he?

he's the yasuke

Yasuke, means, “the black one,” in Japanese

[Besticus Maximus]

Nepenthe is an awful dickhead. Stomping around like a big racist Godzilla squishing internet bugs.

[Eric Cartman]

Nepenthes argument is that if you look at the entirety of asian media - books, film, tv, comics, games - there's loads of stuff about ninjas / samurais already, so 'letting black people' have just one teeny tiny game is no biggy.

which - - is either a staggeringly retarded and take if taken as a legitimate stance they actually believe, or an egregiously slimy, insiduous and intellectually dishonest one if not.

[Eric Cartman]

What utter nonsense, do you really believe every person that has an opinion about something is a racist? Surely you're mind can't just process things that way?. Let me ask you a simple question and see if you can just answer it in a few words with going into massive paragraphs.

What would your thoughts be if a female white person or game character was the main lead in a movie, game based in the 1700's in the US that was specifically about slavery? Now if your not ok with that then your a racist but if you are then your no different than people that maybe don't think a black samurai is the best fit?

See how not everything is so simple? And to give you some context so you don't have to look it up there were certainly a hell of a lot more white slaves than black samurai's if it's about representation.

                   Why are you banning him? He's right.
                        /

[HardcoreRetro]

The Assassin's Creed shit is so funny because, as already mentioned, these games have run the same shit-tier, extremely formulaic ubisoft template for 15+ years.   I'm loving how both sides are losing it over something so bad.  I hope Yasuke says shit like, "Always bet on black" when he kills someone to really rile people up.  THEY DIDNT SAY THAT IN ANCIENT TIMES.   That'd be dope sick ass nasty

Ha, got this one before you deleted it.

Why's the female character look like a teenage boy? Is it because their "historian" is seemingly a pedophile?

[ComeAgain]

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In turn, what would subsequently be special about Assassin's Creed: Shadows other than it's simply a higher-profile game than something like Ghosts of Tsushima?

Yes that is what is special about it, you dunce. Much like these people say it's important to see representation in high profile marvel or star wars movies or whatever. Just purposely missing the point 

[tweet]https://www.twitter.com/Mangalawyer/status/1791670900716171708[/tweet]

Sooo they are openly admitting that the game only went with Yasuke for “diversity”. Despite the game already being diverse by its location being Japan. 

I cannot believe the defense force I’m reading for this decision. They are openly saying that Asian men don’t matter, be happy you even got an Asian ninja. Now watch as the black man slaughters the Asian men and shut your mouth!

[Boredfrom]

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

I found Nep's pseudonym

Holy shit, Jesus.

I don’t care that Yasuke has a game but a little of perspective, pls.

[Uncle]

The Assassin's Creed shit is so funny because, as already mentioned, these games have run the same shit-tier, extremely formulaic ubisoft template for 15+ years.   I'm loving how both sides are losing it over something so bad.  I hope Yasuke says shit like, "Always bet on black" when he kills someone to really rile people up.  THEY DIDNT SAY THAT IN ANCIENT TIMES.   That'd be dope sick ass nasty

"i-impossible! my katana was folded steel, over 1000 times by a master craftsman, yet your inferior steel has shattered it! how can this be?!"

"black don't crack, baby" *dabs*

[Eric Cartman]

Now would be a really uncomfortable time for someone with an era account to dredge up nepenthes posts downplaying black on asian violence in the covid era that led to the last erasian exodus and ask how they can post that shit about intersectionality with a straight face

While I think that an earnest discussion is hard to have here (because of demographics mainly; this is ultimately a cheap, popcorn spectacle for certain people when aired publicly), I think there is some social good in not declaring who has it worse because there's no real point to minimize any other group's struggles. As far as I'm concerned, if you're not white, you're not on the top of the pyramid. And if you're not at the top of the pyramid, you're just on my side by default.

But I think that's the key distinction here: minimizing.

And I will tell you I felt absolutely fucking minimized and tossed aside as a Black person in the spate of threads recently concerning these attacks on Asians, not only because of how quickly one of them descended into anti-Blackness, but because pretty much no one reported it until we independently decided to go in. Suddenly it was my community who didn't want unity, my community who needed to have a conversation about our issues, my community who was the only one facilitating racial divisions.

And the entire time I'm thinking to myself: "I know good and goddamned well y'all didn't "have a conversation" when it was an Asian man who picked up the phone on George Floyd, and an Asian cop who watched him die. When we marched we didn't put this shit on Asians, because the problem is white supremacy, so what the fuck gives with the lack of charitability now?"

To me, it was a bit of a whiplash moment, and honestly I still don't know how to reconcile this going forward. What I said at the beginning stands true: if you're not at the top of the pyramid, then we have commonality. Most posters in these threads have not said anything untoward regarding Black people, and a few went above and beyond to provide links and information to organizations that are specifically about Black and Asian solidarity. But I suppose then the thing to learn is not to be surprised if that shit falls out again. The other side of the coin to white supremacy after all is anti-Blackness.

Oh, asians are being beaten up in the streets for 'causing covid'?

[ComeAgain]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/forbes-japanese-fans-are-puzzled-that-yasuke-is-in-%E2%80%98assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-shadows%E2%80%99.875058/

What the fuck is this shit?


Absolutely garbage article.


"Concerns" - Surejan.gif


Fuck off with that shit. Pure fucking BS.

The whole thread's a gold mine

They once again do this thing where they think it was “just a couple tweets” expressing some anger over no Asian male samurai when in actuality, there’s lots of anger over it and you don’t even need to look hard for it. 

And why is concerns in quotes? Asian men being pissed their chance to see a guy lead in an AC game being given to someone not Asian aren’t valid concerns anymore?

Hasn’t the bastion of inclusiveness Resetera said that Asian Lives Matter in the past? Or is not that month of the year yet, so they don’t give a fuck which is how they truly feel?

[Boredfrom]

Being fair, both sides are retarded in this situation.  

I’m just enjoying the shitshow that half assed intersectionality causes. 

[Propagandhim]

The Assassin's Creed shit is so funny because, as already mentioned, these games have run the same shit-tier, extremely formulaic ubisoft template for 15+ years.   I'm loving how both sides are losing it over something so bad.  I hope Yasuke says shit like, "Always bet on black" when he kills someone to really rile people up.  THEY DIDNT SAY THAT IN ANCIENT TIMES.   That'd be dope sick ass nasty

Ha, got this one before you deleted it.

Why's the female character look like a teenage boy? Is it because their "historian" is seemingly a pedophile?

YOU CANT QUOTE THE POSTS I DELETE TAHT'S LITERAL VIOLENCE

[Besticus Maximus]

Everyone can be a winner. We just need a ninja character in kingdom come 2.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98tomb-raider%E2%80%99-from-phoebe-waller-bridge-lands-series-order-at-amazon.870222/page-2?post=123002646#post-123002646

User Banned (2 Weeks): Misogyny

'Huge part of her life'? Doubtful but congrats on the money.

[HaughtyFrank]

Now would be a really uncomfortable time for someone with an era account to dredge up nepenthes posts downplaying black on asian violence in the covid era that led to the last erasian exodus and ask how they can post that shit about intersectionality with a straight face

While I think that an earnest discussion is hard to have here (because of demographics mainly; this is ultimately a cheap, popcorn spectacle for certain people when aired publicly), I think there is some social good in not declaring who has it worse because there's no real point to minimize any other group's struggles. As far as I'm concerned, if you're not white, you're not on the top of the pyramid. And if you're not at the top of the pyramid, you're just on my side by default.

But I think that's the key distinction here: minimizing.

And I will tell you I felt absolutely fucking minimized and tossed aside as a Black person in the spate of threads recently concerning these attacks on Asians, not only because of how quickly one of them descended into anti-Blackness, but because pretty much no one reported it until we independently decided to go in. Suddenly it was my community who didn't want unity, my community who needed to have a conversation about our issues, my community who was the only one facilitating racial divisions.

And the entire time I'm thinking to myself: "I know good and goddamned well y'all didn't "have a conversation" when it was an Asian man who picked up the phone on George Floyd, and an Asian cop who watched him die. When we marched we didn't put this shit on Asians, because the problem is white supremacy, so what the fuck gives with the lack of charitability now?"

To me, it was a bit of a whiplash moment, and honestly I still don't know how to reconcile this going forward. What I said at the beginning stands true: if you're not at the top of the pyramid, then we have commonality. Most posters in these threads have not said anything untoward regarding Black people, and a few went above and beyond to provide links and information to organizations that are specifically about Black and Asian solidarity. But I suppose then the thing to learn is not to be surprised if that shit falls out again. The other side of the coin to white supremacy after all is anti-Blackness.

Oh, asians are being beaten up in the streets for 'causing covid'?

And the entire time I'm thinking to myself: "I know good and goddamned well y'all didn't "have a conversation" when it was an Asian man who picked up the phone on George Floyd, and an Asian cop who watched him die. When we marched we didn't put this shit on Asians, because the problem is white supremacy, so what the fuck gives with the lack of charitability now?"

Seems like a pretty different situation between random people attacking asians on the street and police brutality. Like the former is definitely something that's deeply connected to the relationship between two racial communities whereas the other one is an example of the state enacting violence.

[nachobro]

Hasn’t the bastion of inclusiveness Resetera said that Asian Lives Matter in the past? Or is not that month of the year yet, so they don’t give a fuck which is how they truly feel?

Actually it is that month of the year 

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-17-...-123176547

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissive whataboutism with regards to racial representation

Would people be OK if Mirage had a white guy? Or Origins had an Asian dude ? Same thing is applied here.

Is it dismissive whataboutism though when the argument of the article that's being discussed is that representation suddenly only matters if it's atypical?

[ComeAgain]

The posts if the game sells terribly in Japan will be incredible. Neppy will fully drop the veil and let the “fuck them white adjacents” posts fly. She’s already just about there.

[ComeAgain]

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Hasn’t the bastion of inclusiveness Resetera said that Asian Lives Matter in the past? Or is not that month of the year yet, so they don’t give a fuck which is how they truly feel?

Actually it is that month of the year 

Makes a moderator all but saying fuck them Asians even more 

[Boredfrom]

If anything, the fact that is a Ubisoft AssCreed game should make you careless about whenever they do justice to the actual setting or make it actually cool. They made the story of their pirate game be insufferable, otherwise wise was a cool ass game.

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/when-you-realized-you-that-black-friend.873072/


Reminder:  This thread about an Asian participating in black culture is 4 days old.  







The "representation" and "cultural appropriation" rules Nepenthe devises into these formal declarations on Resetera that she allegedly lives by are completely arbitrary and based on her ethnocentrism and nobody ever calls it out.     

 

Then:

On the contrary, I think it is a big deal that a lot of the reflexive reactions to Yasuke starring in this was a mixture of anger and a feeling that something was "taken" from Asian men, which is a sentiment that has been expressed in other threads. When Black representation causes that kind of feeling, I'm inclined to want to ask why.

This has gone beyond mere "disappointment" now.

   

[Snoopy]

I've said it before but I'm at the point where I'm genuinely considering getting a license and purchasing a firearm for self defense purposes.
I'm a (mostly) closeted cisgender pansexual white man who's primarily been in hetero relationships so I'm not exactly walking around all day feeling targeted but I go to pride. I don't hide my queer passions, affiliation with my local queer community or suppress myself so long as I'm not around family. Fuck, it's really not even about me. If I were murdered, fuck it, but I'll be damned if I live the rest of my life fearing for the safety of other queer people.
I don't feel totally comfortable with the idea as someone who's struggled with suicidal ideation since I was young (it's gotten better but it's never truly gone away) and is vehemently anti-gun in just about every conceivable way and circumstance but I just don't see an alternative at this point.
Protecting the people in your community is how queer people survive. To a lesser extent, I should try to protect myself too. If I have to live in fear of some psychopathic bigot with a gun, I should have the ability to try and stop them since there still isn't any effort from governing bodies to protect us in any meaningful way.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-warns-of-possible-pride-month-attacks-worldwide.874992/page-2?post=123167193#post-123167193
Reads like the posts they find 6 months before a mass shooter goes on their spree.

Hopefully they're not going abroad during June where ISIS folks hang out, then!

Holy shit it’s another Neeson wannabe. He should form a vigilante squad with Dubs

[Rendle]

New article on noodle soup and co, includes his mugshot. 
https://agitationrising.com/peace-activists-arrested-for-occupying-isu-building-students-for-palestine/?amp=1

Amazing that the Reeject is the most normal looking one.

Which one is he?

The least ugly one

Wow not only did someone beat me to it (and in the post I was replying to no less), but that post was hours ago. I'm slipping

[Eric Cartman]

The posts if the game sells terribly in Japan will be incredible. Neppy will fully drop the veil and let the “fuck them white adjacents” posts fly. She’s already just about there.

its not on switch, so its going to sell like shit in japan regardless