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[kaleidoscopium]

The pretty extreme, overbearing KOSA bill passed the senate with a gargantuan majority and uhhhh nobody here is talking about it?

https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/30/controversial-internet-bill-kosa-passed-by-senate/ bleak shit for LGBT communities. I don't get why there's been hardly any talk here on how this would target LGBT/NSFW communities extensively. Bad bad shit. Push to get the house to veto it pronto if you have reps who'll listen.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-235?post=126515886#post-126515886

Huh wonder what is in the bill that would unfairly target LGBT members 

Proposed in 2022, KOSA requires that online platforms take reasonable steps to protect users from harm, and could become the most significant children’s online safety legislation to take effect since COPPA. This “duty of care” would apply to large internet companies, like social media platforms, gaming networks and streaming services.

Under KOSA, platforms can be held legally accountable if they don’t prove they’re doing enough to protect minors from a long list of harms, including sexual exploitation, eating disorders, suicide, substances abuse and advertisements for age-restricted products like tobacco or gambling. These companies would have to disclose when and how they’re using personalized content recommendation algorithms, and give minors the option to opt out of data collection. On minors’ accounts, these companies would have to limit addictive features like autoplay, or ones that gamify engagement

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-strikes-beirut.940548/page-3?post=126513873#post-126513873

Also wanted for the attack on US barracks in the 80s

Unlike the thousands of innocent victims downright starved by Hezbollah's operations in Syria, these gringo 'soldiers' were a most legitimate target, so good riddance to every single of these criminals (this does not include the civilian family that was working in the building, of course).

Uh, did the US peacekeeping force actually do anything evil in Lebanon or is this guy just celebrating suicide bombings now?

[Uncle]

I found this in 20 seconds

they're clearly shouting "I'm fitter!" reflecting the general theme of athleticism at the olympics

[Taco Bell Tower]

The pretty extreme, overbearing KOSA bill passed the senate with a gargantuan majority and uhhhh nobody here is talking about it?

https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/30/controversial-internet-bill-kosa-passed-by-senate/ bleak shit for LGBT communities. I don't get why there's been hardly any talk here on how this would target LGBT/NSFW communities extensively. Bad bad shit. Push to get the house to veto it pronto if you have reps who'll listen.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-235?post=126515886#post-126515886

Huh wonder what is in the bill that would unfairly target LGBT members 

Proposed in 2022, KOSA requires that online platforms take reasonable steps to protect users from harm, and could become the most significant children’s online safety legislation to take effect since COPPA. This “duty of care” would apply to large internet companies, like social media platforms, gaming networks and streaming services.

Under KOSA, platforms can be held legally accountable if they don’t prove they’re doing enough to protect minors from a long list of harms, including sexual exploitation, eating disorders, suicide, substances abuse and advertisements for age-restricted products like tobacco or gambling. These companies would have to disclose when and how they’re using personalized content recommendation algorithms, and give minors the option to opt out of data collection. On minors’ accounts, these companies would have to limit addictive features like autoplay, or ones that gamify engagement

[Boredfrom]

Anti Israel protestors at the Olympics use nazi signals and slogans, pro hamas users are shocked 😳 


https://www.resetera.com/threads/chants-of-heil-hitler-shouted-by-antisemitic-protestors-at-israel-olympic-soccer-game.940545/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chants-of-heil-hitler-shouted-by-antisemitic-protestors-at-israel-olympic-soccer-game.940545/?post=126512520#post-126512520

Given a lack of reliable sourcing here, we're locking the thread pending actual sources.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2024/07/30/israel-soccer-heil-hitler-chants-antisemitic/74599367007/
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/sport/olympics-investigation-soccer-antisemitic-incident-intl/index.html
https://news.sky.com/story/french-police-investigate-death-threats-to-israeli-athletes-at-paris-olympics-13186508

Piece of shit.  

Be brave for once and confront this shit you have enabled.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-strikes-beirut.940548/page-3?post=126516918#post-126516918

Do you want to ask yourself why those riots happened?

Please, I'd love to hear the justification for the 1834 Safed massacre for example. I'm an avid collector of justification for killing Jews over the years.

[Boredfrom]

From videos it seems like the same group too. I'm apprehensible of embedding it directly from twitter because people I could find sharing it seem to be mostly far right or zionist blue checkmarks (they must love seeing flags of Palestine associated with heiling Hitler, what a way for those protestors to self-sabotage at best and to be malicious accelerationists at worst) who don't need more engagement, but of all news sites TMZ seems to be literally only one hosting it on their site.

Okay this might be misinformation here. It seems like they're shouting "Palestine" (in French) and not "Heil Hilter", hence why no publication reported that.

It’s on CNN, you asshole:


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/30/sport/olympics-investigation-soccer-antisemitic-incident-intl

Can B-Dumbs make a google search before closing a thread?

[DavidCroquet]

The pretty extreme, overbearing KOSA bill passed the senate with a gargantuan majority and uhhhh nobody here is talking about it?

https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/30/controversial-internet-bill-kosa-passed-by-senate/ bleak shit for LGBT communities. I don't get why there's been hardly any talk here on how this would target LGBT/NSFW communities extensively. Bad bad shit. Push to get the house to veto it pronto if you have reps who'll listen.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-235?post=126515886#post-126515886

Huh wonder what is in the bill that would unfairly target LGBT members 

Proposed in 2022, KOSA requires that online platforms take reasonable steps to protect users from harm, and could become the most significant children’s online safety legislation to take effect since COPPA. This “duty of care” would apply to large internet companies, like social media platforms, gaming networks and streaming services.

Under KOSA, platforms can be held legally accountable if they don’t prove they’re doing enough to protect minors from a long list of harms, including sexual exploitation, eating disorders, suicide, substances abuse and advertisements for age-restricted products like tobacco or gambling. These companies would have to disclose when and how they’re using personalized content recommendation algorithms, and give minors the option to opt out of data collection. On minors’ accounts, these companies would have to limit addictive features like autoplay, or ones that gamify engagement

I wrote an autism spiel about this in the politics thread today, lol.

I was listening to NPR and they had coverage of it this morning. 

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/30/nx-s1-5056195/its-taken-2-years-to-get-the-kids-online-safety-act-to-this-point

I was annoyed at how they allowed the commentator to gesture ominously at vague harm without any specifics whatsoever.

Evan Greer, who's the director of Fight for the Future, the bill has unintended consequences, especially for LGBTQ kids. Greer's been working with hundreds of parents of trans kids who oppose the legislation. The big problem, she says, is that senators have too broadly defined harmful content.

GREER: Disproportionately, it would hurt kids that are the most vulnerable, who are most in need of access to that online community and information - particularly LGBTQ youth.

What "online community" or "information" would be restricted here that shouldn't be? Surely you could share a single example? Don't bother looking in the transcript for explanations on how and why...these details are predictably absent.

Another fun attack angle was also mentioned - child privacy:

INDIA MCKINNEY: You still have to figure out how to determine who is a child.

KERR: India McKinney works at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

MCKINNEY: And there is no way to do that that protects privacy, that protects anonymity, that protects all of these other First Amendment values that we find so important.

I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I have long operated under the assumptions that the Bill of Rights mostly applies to, y'know, grown adults.  Can't really work myself up over "kids will have difficulty engaging with random strangers and content anonymously".

[kaleidoscopium]

I'll be honest, i didn't even know about this. At first i looked at this and i even said oh that doesn't sound bad though? but then you dig into the fact they would end up requiring ID checks even for talking about LGBT stuff at all cause they just straight up consider our very existence as inherently sexual and adult only.

Yeah this def should be being talked about, it sounds like it's rife with vagueness bad actors can utilize.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-236?post=126517704#post-126517704

Yes generally we don’t want strange adults talking to children about sexual activities especially online anonymously. Why is this something you want if you aren’t a pedophile? These people are insane.

[Boredfrom]

I did say relative peace, the pogroms happened and there's no denying it. I wasn't even suggesting that the Ottoman empire was some perfect utopia either - like many empire prior to it there were massacres and the like happening under its watch in its later years as it collapsed. Plenty of Muslims faced persecution and death in the regression of the Ottoman empire as well so this isn't the gotcha you might think it is. And lastly, I don't appreciate your insinuation that I'm justifying the killing of Jews. Christ. If anything the adherence to mainting this notion of a "centuries" long conflict seems nothing more than an attempt to nurture tolerance to the status quo of the last 75 years - the subjugation and dispossession of Palestinian life.

No. Is telling you the reality of the conflict and why there is no easy solutions.

Piece of shit commie, go and cry that Maduro is not a true socialist.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-strikes-beirut.940548/page-3?post=126513873#post-126513873

Also wanted for the attack on US barracks in the 80s

Unlike the thousands of innocent victims downright starved by Hezbollah's operations in Syria, these gringo 'soldiers' were a most legitimate target, so good riddance to every single of these criminals (this does not include the civilian family that was working in the building, of course).

There are two potential dunks here. I can't pick which so I'll just leave both here.

Hey, now you know how Israelis think. "It was a legit target! (prayers up for those civvies tho)"

OR

Yeah, fuck those gringo cracker white pieces of shit.

The Racial/Ethnic distribution of the Army is as follows

White, Not Hispanic: 53.6%,
Black, Not Hispanic: 20.3%
Hispanic: 17.6%
Asian or Pacific Islander: 6.9%
American Indian or Alaskan Native: 0.9%
Unknown/Other: 0.8%.

Er, I mean, fuck 53.6% of them, anyway.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-222?post=126497031#post-126497031

Weren’t they just complaining about Zuckerberg being right wing as well?  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-mark-zuckerberg-calls-donald-trump-badass-inspiring-without-endorsing-him.932472/

The world has to reconfigure the global economy and primitavize it for a regression to save the planet from the scourge of global capitalism but Nepenthe can't quit a website.

Not just Nepenthe! All* artists**!

*not all 
**"artists" here defined as pornographers, as well as internet retards of all stripes, many of which create no art whatsoever

This thread begs to differ. 

What is a Planetsmasher post other than high art? No one can create quite the same level of incredulity, amazement and pure visceral reaction than that retard.

The others too are capable of high level artistic endeavours such as: 

• I'm going to kill myself
  
• I hate my family
  
• Counter Strike 2 has some VERY nice water
  
• I'm going to kill myself...again
  
• My headmates are my only friends
  
• Down with capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy
  
• Please rate my Gunpla collection
  

[Hap Shaughnessy]

The guys at the bottom of the military pyramid are basically blue collar workers who have no say and most are just trying to support their families.

[Potato]

And what , pray tell, does he think he would offer as a sex worker?

He's a lesbian, remember. His prostitution career will be as successful as his video game streaming and e-begging careers.

[HardcoreRetro]

He can at least show off the one pickle he has access to.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-strikes-beirut.940548/post-126518046

I did say relative peace, the pogroms happened and there's no denying it. I wasn't even suggesting that the Ottoman empire was some perfect utopia either - like many empire prior to it there were massacres and the like happening under its watch in its later years as it collapsed. Plenty of Muslims faced persecution and death in the regression of the Ottoman empire as well so this isn't the gotcha you might think it is. And lastly, I don't appreciate your insinuation that I'm justifying the killing of Jews. Christ. If anything the adherence to maintaining this notion of a "centuries" long conflict seems nothing more than an attempt to nurture tolerance to the status quo of the last 75 years - the subjugation and dispossession of Palestinian life.

*enhance...*

relative peace [...] pogroms happened

[Potato]

Guy, I need y'alls help. I just realized it's been 20 years since I lived in the South West and ate at an In and Out Burger. 
Can someone Uber Eats a Double Double combo to me? The closest one to Wisconsin is in Colorado. It's about a 1000 mile drive. I know that sounds expensive but if I don't get one soon I will have to un-alive myself. There is no other choice and I know y'all don't want my blood on your hands.

I have a fully stocked fridge and pantry but no Double Doubles. Need y'alls help before I starve.

Vale killamajig. His so-called friends at thebire did this.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chants-of-heil-hitler-shouted-by-antisemitic-protestors-at-israel-olympic-soccer-game.940545/?post=126510348#post-126510348

Yup. Lots of the discourse are by groups where ten years ago would have been using Arab slurs. Online Neo-Nazi's talking about Palestinian struggle and how its sad, then immediately pivot to 'Arab immigration in Europe is diluting our white genes!'

Oh thank god these were just some white nazis (assumption made with zero proof). If these guys were Arabic it would have forced me to reevaluate my assumptions

Reeeeeotous has entered the chat

It's possible their intent was to make a correlation between Israel's actions and Germany's actions with the chant. Using it ironically on purpose.

Idiots either way.

Get fucked you spineless twat.

[Potato]

I found this in 20 seconds

Hmmmm, those turban wearing brown skinned white supremacists are getting pretty bold...

[benji]

As a Tesla car owner I hope the company keeps losing sales until it's bought off or Musk leaves bankrupt like Trump.

They really think every CEO owns every part of every company.

The pretty extreme, overbearing KOSA bill passed the senate with a gargantuan majority and uhhhh nobody here is talking about it?

https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/30/controversial-internet-bill-kosa-passed-by-senate/ bleak shit for LGBT communities. I don't get why there's been hardly any talk here on how this would target LGBT/NSFW communities extensively. Bad bad shit. Push to get the house to veto it pronto if you have reps who'll listen.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-235?post=126515886#post-126515886

I'll be honest, i didn't even know about this. At first i looked at this and i even said oh that doesn't sound bad though? but then you dig into the fact they would end up requiring ID checks even for talking about LGBT stuff at all cause they just straight up consider our very existence as inherently sexual and adult only.

Yeah this def should be being talked about, it sounds like it's rife with vagueness bad actors can utilize.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-236?post=126517704#post-126517704

They aren't talking about it because you're on a forum where prominent members think this unconstitutional bill doesn't go far enough and want people both actively monitored and imprisoned by the state for posts.

[benji]

Thank you for posting a Threads link instead of Xitter. The less we can give mElon the traffic/clicks the better. He's societal cancer.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-strikes-beirut.940548/page-3?post=126516918#post-126516918

Do you want to ask yourself why those riots happened?

Please, I'd love to hear the justification for the 1834 Safed massacre for example. I'm an avid collector of justification for killing Jews over the years.

User threadbanned pending further review: inflammatory accusations toward other users

[benji]

He's crying again:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/post-126520053

Oh wow, I've never even seen this.

I legit just teared up.

Just…wow

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-strikes-beirut.940548/page-3?post=126516918#post-126516918

Please, I'd love to hear the justification for the 1834 Safed massacre for example. I'm an avid collector of justification for killing Jews over the years.

User threadbanned pending further review: inflammatory accusations toward other users

"moderator on break"

[TylenolJones]

First off, knock off the derail.

Second, would someone mind taking over the OP of this thread? The current OP hasn't updated the OP at all, has just posted a single tweet in said OP, and there's no real information being shared here despite more information coming in.

Nothing is funnier than bdumbs getting upset at his members for not updating thread asap with the most recent news.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-kills-1-critically-injures-5-moderately-injures-63-in-failed-missile-strike-on-beruit-suburb-in-attempt-to-kill-hezbollah-commander.940548/page-4?post=126519810#post-126519810

[benji]

I wonder why the Democrats haven't adopted federal drug decriminalization to the platform. It's an incredibly popular sentiment and they would gain more support than they would lose in the more conservative population of the base.

Decriminalizing all drugs is incredibly popular with the Libertarian Party maybe.

[benji]

What is Netanyahu's end goal?

War and genocide keeps him in power, and the US claps for him.

His goal is power, continuing to escalate is how he stays in office.

Why do people keep voting for this monster?

Staying in power, staying out of prison, wiping the Palestinian people down until there are too few of them for people to call for their right to their homeland and self determination.

Zionism.

pos genocidal country led by pos human beings

Like aren't they tired of him? He also messed massively with the security that led to the Gaza stuff.

Like, they get that he's head of a majority coalition right? That this is a parliamentary system and not just one dude?

Israel is US own North Korea at this point in all but persecuting its own civilians.

[DavidCroquet]

Trying to Twitter use to an immoral support of fascism just isn't really a meaningful argument.

For one, it's still too big of a space for any given political faction to have meaningful curation over, left or right, meaning the presence of Nazis is less about direct gatekeeping and more tied to larger material conditions that is inevitably going to produce Nazis within a given population after a certain amount of time. It's the difference between a bar and a country- the bar owner can keep Nazis out, the President cannot.

Second, it ignores every other platform that has and- most importantly- continues to have a hand in bolstering fascism through donations, misinformation, horrible moderation, right-wing algorithms, etc., which in turn muddies the argument down into less of an honest concern with fascism and minority well-being and more of a problem with Musk himself, where the issue is more that he's just an embarrassing white person than any actual concern for the usual victims of fascism. More elaboration on this point in this video's intro here.

Third, it is a platform that people do seriously use for all kinds of communication, networking, and promotional work. It isn't just artists (although artists matter as well). Telling people inextricably tied to capitalism, in conditions where the price of living is going up, where jobs that actually are able to compensate for that are getting rarer and rarer, to essentially "get another job" by not using Twitter if it is part of their work is nonsense. It has the same pull as conservatives making fun of those on economic assitance, and it has the same pull as liberals telling coal miners to "just code" back in the day when they were pretending to give a shit.

Fourth, and most importantly, it's an argument that doesn't actually engage with the material conditions I mentioned above. Solving fascism as it were is mainly about preventing people (namely white men, because it's usually you guys) from going down rabbit holes that provide easy answers for why their lives are so shitty, which is mainly due to the fact that we live in a capitalist hellhole that isn't interested in providing a dignified existence to most people, which in turn clashes with beliefs about American meritocracy and white superiority and thus produces a cognitive dissonance that is easily rectified with scapegoating minorities. You can shut Twitter off right now and unfortunately MAGA will still be there.

Regardless, if you are seriously trying to get people off of Twitter, you need to actually provide an alternative that is functionally better and more convenient. Bluesky and Threads seem to simply be merely the same as Twitter but without the install base, which is not going to move people in the drove you want. Shaming people certainly isn't going to do it, especially when you can go to another thread on this very forum and see people seriously engaging with Democratic politicking and organization being done on Twitter.

[Uncle]

The pretty extreme, overbearing KOSA bill passed the senate with a gargantuan majority and uhhhh nobody here is talking about it?

https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/30/controversial-internet-bill-kosa-passed-by-senate/ bleak shit for LGBT communities. I don't get why there's been hardly any talk here on how this would target LGBT/NSFW communities extensively. Bad bad shit. Push to get the house to veto it pronto if you have reps who'll listen.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-235?post=126515886#post-126515886

Huh wonder what is in the bill that would unfairly target LGBT members 

Proposed in 2022, KOSA requires that online platforms take reasonable steps to protect users from harm, and could become the most significant children’s online safety legislation to take effect since COPPA. This “duty of care” would apply to large internet companies, like social media platforms, gaming networks and streaming services.

Under KOSA, platforms can be held legally accountable if they don’t prove they’re doing enough to protect minors from a long list of harms, including sexual exploitation, eating disorders, suicide, substances abuse and advertisements for age-restricted products like tobacco or gambling. These companies would have to disclose when and how they’re using personalized content recommendation algorithms, and give minors the option to opt out of data collection. On minors’ accounts, these companies would have to limit addictive features like autoplay, or ones that gamify engagement

I wrote an autism spiel about this in the politics thread today, lol.

it's not about kids or what they're being denied, it's about yet another step in the long, slow erosion of freedom of speech

each new requirement makes the next one easier

this one adds requirements for larger websites...the next one will expand it to smaller ones too

if the language is legal to be posted online, it's fucking legal and should stay where it is for all to see, if you don't want your children to see it then take away their phone

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/05/us-version-kosa-still-censorship-bill

[Uncle]

Hmmmm, those turban wearing brown skinned white supremacists are getting pretty bold...

Hitler seems to have developed quite the fan art following...