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[Nintex]

I feel like, objectively, ukraine didnt send combatants into russia. Whereas hamas did.

Russia have occupied and attacked ukraine just like israel has been doing to the palestinans for decades.

It never started with hamas. If anything the response coming from any palestinain faction is in response to israels warcrimes, occupation and land theft just like russia is doing to the ukrainians.

I got the feeling that Putin is pretty okay with this narrative.  

If I remember correctly, Ukraine initially wanted peace agreements with Putin until they realized he was full of shit.

[HaughtyFrank]

It is fucking frustrating they still downplay October 7 as some sort of “justified response”, like WTF you are going to accomplish by denying that outside of defending your shitty friend group political takes.

It doesn’t help the people that you (presumably) want to help and doesn’t change the minds of the people you disagree with you outside the Progressive/Propaganda bubble.

It sucks because Israel does deserve a whole lot of shit. The way they handle settlements is disgusting and should receive constant international pressure but RE is just way too happy to downplay any of the shit Hamas has done or that there's antisemitic believes that go beyond the way Israel was created. Israel needs to get called out but loonies like the one on RE make me of question their real intentions. If you want Israel to cease existing you're not here for a ceasefire and peaceful solution

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-128#post-126873753

If there's one thing fascists really can't handle, it's being made fun of. Calling Trump "weird", Vance a "couch fucker", and Rowling's shitty wallpaper "black mold" has gradually shown over the past few weeks to genuinely upset and throw them off, causing them to make strange mistakes and drive them further and further into their weirdo caves.

The lesson is pretty clear: take the threat of fascism seriously, but not the rhetoric. Instead, treat fascists like the bizarre goobers we know they are. It only isolates them further from the public and exemplifies just how strange and off-putting their ideologies truly are to the masses who don't stay plugged-in 24/7.

[Boredfrom]

It is fucking frustrating they still downplay October 7 as some sort of “justified response”, like WTF you are going to accomplish by denying that outside of defending your shitty friend group political takes.

It doesn’t help the people that you (presumably) want to help and doesn’t change the minds of the people you disagree with you outside the Progressive/Propaganda bubble.

It sucks because Israel does deserve a whole lot of shit. The way they handle settlements is disgusting and should receive constant international pressure but RE is just way too happy to downplay any of the shit Hamas has done or that there's antisemitic believes that go beyond the way Israel was created. Israel needs to get called out but loonies like the one on RE make me of question their real intentions. If you want Israel to cease existing you're not here for a ceasefire and peaceful solution

But we need to bitch about using Zionists as an insult and why Hamas may not be a terrorist organization or how to “reeducate” Israel as a whole or… etc.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-128#post-126873753

If there's one thing fascists really can't handle, it's being made fun of. Calling Trump "weird", Vance a "couch fucker", and Rowling's shitty wallpaper "black mold" has gradually shown over the past few weeks to genuinely upset and throw them off, causing them to make strange mistakes and drive them further and further into their weirdo caves.

The lesson is pretty clear: take the threat of fascism seriously, but not the rhetoric. Instead, treat fascists like the bizarre goobers we know they are. It only isolates them further from the public and exemplifies just how strange and off-putting their ideologies truly are to the masses who don't stay plugged-in 24/7.

What about calling Trump fat? Or senile? Or saying he shits his pants? 

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dolce-gabanna-releases-a-perfume-line-for-dogs-so-fat4all-can-stop-smelling-like-flamin-hot-fritos.947523/

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-128#post-126873753

If there's one thing fascists really can't handle, it's being made fun of. Calling ... Vance a "couch fucker", and Rowling's shitty wallpaper "black mold" has gradually shown over the past few weeks to genuinely upset and throw them off

Whoa. Lying about people upsets them?

Joanne's never going to recover now that they've cracked the code that lying about her works!

[benji]

Gosh, just imagine how much fascists would get upset if you called them groomers and rapists even if they weren't either. Or suggested they were permanently harming children. Or invading women's spaces for nefarious reasons. Or policing language. Or...

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Who wants to make a video game with Melody? I'm proud of them for trying. 

https://www.patreon.com/posts/im-making-rpg-109397352?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

[Boredfrom]

I'm gonna start work on an RPG Maker game! feeling out the engine right now but i am writing out design documents as I do this!

It will be an urban fantasy rpg with cyberpunk and scifi elements, think Megami Tensei and you'll have an idea what I'm going for with it. I'm adapting an old comic book concept I had but I decided it could really work as a game!

if anyone wants to contribute let me know! I can't pay you for the most part but if I'm able to I will commission paid assets for the game, only if it's possible for me of course! I do wanna support the art and dev community if I can.

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[Uncle]

I want it to be real and I will play it

god bless

[Potato]

I feel like, objectively, ukraine didnt send combatants into russia. Whereas hamas did.

Russia have occupied and attacked ukraine just like israel has been doing to the palestinans for decades.

It never started with hamas. If anything the response coming from any palestinain faction is in response to israels warcrimes, occupation and land theft just like russia is doing to the ukrainians.

I got the feeling that Putin is pretty okay with this narrative.  

If I remember correctly, Ukraine initially wanted peace agreements with Putin until they realized he was full of shit.

He mad!

[DocWager]

I can’t wait till the person that works with them eventually reveals they were an abusive jackass.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-128#post-126873753

If there's one thing fascists really can't handle, it's being made fun of. Calling Trump "weird", Vance a "couch fucker", and Rowling's shitty wallpaper "black mold" has gradually shown over the past few weeks to genuinely upset and throw them off, causing them to make strange mistakes and drive them further and further into their weirdo caves.

The lesson is pretty clear: take the threat of fascism seriously, but not the rhetoric. Instead, treat fascists like the bizarre goobers we know they are. It only isolates them further from the public and exemplifies just how strange and off-putting their ideologies truly are to the masses who don't stay plugged-in 24/7.

I need 17 words to describe my gender and sexual orientation, but THEY'RE the weird ones!!

[books]

I gave up on RPG Maker. Was just too frustrating to get things to work correctly. But I'm sure Malds can do it!

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dolce-gabanna-releases-a-perfume-line-for-dogs-so-fat4all-can-stop-smelling-like-flamin-hot-fritos.947523/

I hope they didn't use animals testing when developing this product...

[Boredfrom]

I want it to be real and I will play it

god bless

There is like 20+ RPG maker games of the same subject. And probably better than what Melds is going to end doing.

[Boredfrom]

Incredible photos. Much love and support to the counter protestors for standing against hate and bigotry.

“Anyway, fuck all Jews.”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bbc-more-than-100-arrests-after-violence-as-far-right-anti-immigrant-protests-turn-into-riots.944283/page-13#post-126874461

I really hope someday someone calls you out for your BS.

[TylenolJones]

How about you all move on from this argument?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-3-walzing-into-the-future.947364/page-19#post-126879636

Other shit

Fairly large Muslim-American population in the state. Most are socially conservative though.

Well yeah, your latter point is why it really is not being taken heavily into consideration. Many of them also are anti-lgbtq.

Honestly I hope you get banned for this bigoted pinkwashing shit

I once tried to level with you and correct this ignorance but it looks like it hasn't taken

And just in case anyone else wants to take up the mantle

 

ClickyCal is panicking

Edit: we have a victim. 

User subforum banned (1 week): inflammatory accusations against other users

I'm not saying they shouldn't change course or trying to convince what should be done by Harris admin, but saying that if solidarity is wanted by people, it has to go both ways.

Then you have no point and you're trying to change topics.

The folks at issue are anti-genocide protestors. That's the issue. If you think they aren't worth appealing to, say that.

One of the worst things to come out of the Gaza debate are the folks that want to pretend like they care about the issue but can't for X Y or Z reason.

If you don't want the Muslim vote due to Gaza, own that shit. Don't hide it behind bunk logic and statistics.

We back to infighting about Gaza

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I love it.

Speaking against our lady Kamala will see bans brought down for racism and wrongthink. Thank you Biden for the start of a hopefully good season 2.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

How about you all move on from this argument?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-3-walzing-into-the-future.947364/page-19#post-126879636

Other shit

Fairly large Muslim-American population in the state. Most are socially conservative though.

Well yeah, your latter point is why it really is not being taken heavily into consideration. Many of them also are anti-lgbtq.

Honestly I hope you get banned for this bigoted pinkwashing shit

I once tried to level with you and correct this ignorance but it looks like it hasn't taken

And just in case anyone else wants to take up the mantle

 

ClickyCal is panicking

Edit: we have a victim. 

User subforum banned (1 week): inflammatory accusations against other users

I'm not saying they shouldn't change course or trying to convince what should be done by Harris admin, but saying that if solidarity is wanted by people, it has to go both ways.

Then you have no point and you're trying to change topics.

The folks at issue are anti-genocide protestors. That's the issue. If you think they aren't worth appealing to, say that.

One of the worst things to come out of the Gaza debate are the folks that want to pretend like they care about the issue but can't for X Y or Z reason.

If you don't want the Muslim vote due to Gaza, own that shit. Don't hide it behind bunk logic and statistics.

We back to infighting about Gaza

KAMALA KAMALA YOU CAN'T HIDE WE WONT VOTE FOR GENOCIDE! 



also Benji make it so I can have a gif as my avatar so I can use this. 

[HaughtyFrank]

It's like they said, human rights should not be conditional. To be clear, "Catered to" in this case means putting a stop to a genocide. But "a portion of this population have bigoted views due to religion" therefore they shouldn't be entertained?

RE will celebrate that a Trump supporter got shot at a rally because he must have been a bigot but if someone says that Muslims are anti lgbt it's a bridge too far

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

ClickyCal survives another day. Muslims get another L on era. 

[books]

Lol. We need more infighting and pushback against the definitely not "prominent memebers."

The 2nd US Civil War will be fought on Resetera, the nexus of gaming, furrydom, trans issues, and death threats against housewife turned billionaire JK Rowling.

Edit- it's always the fucking Jews. I don't believe it, but Ree does. *shrug*

[Boredfrom]

The majority of younger generation Muslims who live in America are open to acceptance or changing their world view on LGBTQ+ issues. Because they play video games or watch movies or TV shows that have gay or trans characters, they see TikToks of gay people, they see Pride flags.

That’s cool… they said that a loud with their mosque or their family? If this stuff is difficult to do in other religions, I imagine is not easier with a conservative demographic whose some of their most out there youth seem to still think being transgender lesbian can be totally compatible with Islam.

You can say that most Muslims who live in say… Iraq hate gay people but you can absolutely not characterize Arab Americans as being that way. And especially characterizing the Arab Americans in Detroit as being this way.

Of course not, but not every single community is the same. We have examples of very conservative Muslim communities.

Hell, I work with many foreign people from Middle Eastern countries that are Muslim who are fine with LGBTQ people. They will never personally engage in same-sex relationships or transitioning but they accept that those people exist and don't want them to not have rights or die.

That’s good and all, but how many of them are in position of power? How many of them are expats? How many of them will not follow shun people if their family say so? Have you heard how Israel recruited Palestine spies? 

Yes, I bet a lot of people, from different cultures, want to let people live their lives. The reality is that we end with people like Messy spouting progressive rhetoric while buying a wife. No, he is not example of all Muslims, but the cultural blind spots that current day Progressive politics try to forget. Recognizing that these exist shouldn’t end like EDL riots, but a bigger effort on integration than “they saw a gay character in Ms Marvel, so they okay with it.”

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/donating-plasma-questions.924711/

I have recently started donating Plasma as a source if Alternate income. I have two questions for those here who have done this:

1. Is there an easy way to see the rates each company currently pays both before and after the starting promo rates? I cannot seem to find this on any of the companies.

2. Which company have you had the best experience with?

[benji]

They'd be foolish to ignore Gaza, but we're not there yet. The campaign has only been alive for two weeks, and they haven't even formulated their policy objectives.

I know Kamala has shown support for a ceasefire, but she needs to say that where it counts. I'd highly suggest at some point during the campaign season, doing a sit-down with some local muslim communities and discussing the issue with them personally. It's not a controversial thing, right? Hope it gets addressed.

Yeah, sit down with some random Muslim Americans and talk to them solely about Palestine, that makes sense right?  

you can "cater" to them by telling them that their lives matter. both parties in the usa signal very clearly that they don't think arab and muslim lives matter. they will increasingly vote on their religious values because those are the only things they can possibly be aligned on in the political spectrum if no party is actually speaking to the value of their lives. saying we need to decide between lgbtq+ rights and arab lives is a completely false dilemma. you can do both because i can guarantee many of these voters would care far more about their family members or people who look like their family not being slaughtered en masse than non-gendered bathrooms.

the harris campaign needs to have a better message here, and writing off arab and muslim americans is not what a campaign that is staking so much on universal compassion should be doing or calculating.

They're so dumb.

It's like they said, human rights should not be conditional. Just to be clear, "Catered to" in this case means putting a stop to a genocide. But "a portion of this population have bigoted views due to religion" therefore they shouldn't be entertained?

Human rights should not be conditional, including Muslim people that are religious, but will have to go against anti-lgbt views in a pact of solidarity.

Literally everything is fine. No one will remember this in three weeks.

Kamala won't be able to ignore the Fall encampments though.

One thing I think the right wing media has kind of a point on is that Harris hasn't really put out a big policy agenda. But I think that's by design because 1) they're waiting for the DNC to put it all out like most candidates do in election years and 2) she literally became the candidate two weeks ago and is deciding what her administration is going to look like and stand for.

So where I think a lot of people want her to do or say X or Y will likely come with time once she enters into that part of the campaign soon.

Exactly it's still very early days.

Just wait until she's back from summer break!

Just saw the clip, great response from Harris. There's no need to coddle or engage hecklers beyond shutting them down. And the crowd was all the way with her in her response, we love to see it!

Some hecklers in the audience is going to be lost in the churn of new news that is happening 24/7. Maybe if something substantial actually happened with said hecklers it might have more lasting pull but I imagine this gets consumed by ,"Did you know Walz is a cool dad?" stories in a days time.

Hell yeah! Stop the genocide? MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!

When there's a genocide going on, sure. They can say it wherever they want. People literally always complain about the methods of how people protest. Every single time.

The earth can be burning under our feet and the coasts under water, and people will complain about protesters throwing paint on a rock, or soup on a painting.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a tweet from the campaign on it by the end of the day. Basically something like "I hear your concerns and I share them but people of all walks were attending that rally and everyone deserved to hear about the issues that affect them and not one group shouting over the others" but you know, more cleaned up than that.

Will Kamala tweet in the next three hours? Stay tuned!

What sucks so hard about this is that Republicans don't have this problem(protestors on this issue) because everyone knows they're infinitely worse and a hundred times more dogmatic about Israel. So the more empathetic party that the protestors feel they could actually work with/penetrate to shift their overton window on this issue to affect change gets all the heat... which ultimately has the potential to cause the sort of infighting that loses votes, it's self destructive to the possibility of harm reduction here or in Palestine. I certainly understand why protestors are showing up at the Harris rally, but it feels counterproductive. Get the actually receptive candidate elected, then unleash hell with the protests.

                       tone policing?
 

Exactly. The amount of work those staffers are doing right now to hone down her policy agenda before the DNC is probably insane and full of many all-nighters.

It's also probably why she hasn't done any big sit down interviews yet. She's waiting until she's ready for the policy questions the press will have.

The thing is this genocide isn't solely a FP issue. For the MENA and Muslim communities (especially in MI) this is an issue that comes home. There are plenty in the community that are affected or in close proximity. It's more of the ignorance and "othering" a few of us tried to address last thread when it comes to MENA/Muslim communities.

Plus the way Biden, though his racism and racist actions have completely burnt bridges in these communities. I'd hope Harris does more than speech lines and go and meet with community leaders in person. She should outline hard policies about not only about ending this genocide but supporting reconstruction and reconciliation of Gaza and the communities in the US. It's very hard to understate just how terrible Biden is on this issue.

B-Dubs told you to drop it buddy!

Not that crowd sizes matter, but it was 15000 people? I thought they moved to the huge hanger because 50000 people RSVP'd? Or is 15k the max capacity?

Oh, no, the crowd sizes.

How about you all move on from this argument?

lol

this is the era talking point for the next week

lol

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-3-walzing-into-the-future.947364/page-20#post-126880053

I mean, we don't know what's going on with these people and what their motives are. We can't take it at face value that they're acting in good faith and not just some MAGAts trying to sow division.

Yo, please read what you're saying...

[Taco Bell Tower]

I'm gonna start work on an RPG Maker game! feeling out the engine right now but i am writing out design documents as I do this!

It will be an urban fantasy rpg with cyberpunk and scifi elements, think Megami Tensei and you'll have an idea what I'm going for with it. I'm adapting an old comic book concept I had but I decided it could really work as a game!

if anyone wants to contribute let me know! I can't pay you for the most part but if I'm able to I will commission paid assets for the game, only if it's possible for me of course! I do wanna support the art and dev community if I can.

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What was the point in LGBTQ+ since Lesbian is part of that?  

[Boredfrom]

you can "cater" to them by telling them that their lives matter. both parties in the usa signal very clearly that they don't think arab and muslim lives matter. they will increasingly vote on their religious values because those are the only things they can possibly be aligned on in the political spectrum if no party is actually speaking to the value of their lives. saying we need to decide between lgbtq+ rights and arab lives is a completely false dilemma. you can do both because i can guarantee many of these voters would care far more about their family members or people who look like their family not being slaughtered en masse than non-gendered bathrooms.

So Jewish lives don’t matter? Every Arab and Muslim in the U.S. is from Palestine? I thought you guys said that Israel/Palestine conflict didn’t have religious connotations in that case.  

But you are the same dude that was judging someone career for a racial slur from 5 or 6 year ago, so I don’t think you are anybody to say “people can be compassionate of both.”  

Sounds more like: “have your cake and eat it too”.

the harris campaign needs to have a better message here, and writing off arab and muslim americans is not what a campaign that is staking so much on universal compassion should be doing or calculating.

I agree to an extent, but I doubt the message they will end with will please everyone. Some asshole said that didn’t want kumbaya BS, but I doubt he will be happy when the reality of US role in the world get people mad yet again.  

The U.S. can be (and it is IMO) a better alternative from Russia and China, but the world is not a Marvel film with heroes fighting supervillains.