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[Potato]

Pretty sure it was already decided before Paris 2024 that breaking won't return for LA 2028. Same with boxing. The IOC seems to kind of play around with adding various sports right now

Was about to make a hacky joke about darts in the Olympics. But there are genuine lobbyists who might very well make it happen.

Still more of a sport than fucking breakdancing though

[Boredfrom]

Pretty sure it was already decided before Paris 2024 that breaking won't return for LA 2028. Same with boxing. The IOC seems to kind of play around with adding various sports right now

Was about to make a hacky joke about darts in the Olympics. But there are genuine lobbyists who might very well make it happen.

Still more of a sport than fucking breakdancing though

 

Because…?

[Potato]

Pretty sure it was already decided before Paris 2024 that breaking won't return for LA 2028. Same with boxing. The IOC seems to kind of play around with adding various sports right now

Was about to make a hacky joke about darts in the Olympics. But there are genuine lobbyists who might very well make it happen.

Sure, and Scotland will host the games. Hey, maybe we can Have the Olympics held in Buttfuck, Alabama. 

None of this shit will ever happen.

Scotland is hosting the 2026 Commonwealth Games since those piece of shit Victorians under that cunt Daniel Andrews pulled the pin on hosting. 

Never say never...

[Uncle]

because there's a quantifiable measure of success instead of "ooh that looked neat"

[Boredfrom]

because there's a quantifiable measure of success instead of "ooh that looked neat"

[Jansen]

You guys post some terrible shit, but the dude who said morrigan has a nice pussy wins the prize.

Please don't encourage them to post it.

Benji please find morrigans pussy

[Potato]

Everyone in the Musk does Trump drama is retarded. Musk, Trump, Vivian and the European Union. I never see so many embarrassing people discussing serious issues.

It’s a retard circle jerk

Retard human centipede with the amount of shit they speak

[HaughtyFrank]

All she does is bitching about Valve.

That and screaming "the Chuds have won" because Gears of War has made Marcus the protagonist again

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/australian-breaking-competitor-raygun-goes-viral-after-olympic-performance.950001/page-8#post-127088733

She finessed a free trip to Paris and got to stay in the Olympic village with the top athletes in the world
Its funny how people say you are mean and shouldn't criticize her but gtfo, I'll talk shit about how awful she was since I know people that break dance and now it's got a bad rep
Most likely will be excluded from now on in the Olympics
What a mess Raygun is
L

Everyone acts like no one has access to film or footage of break dancers, gotta realize if you can't perform like them then you might not do well in the Olympics

There's a very clear difference between what those POC showed in effort in those sports and what Raygun did considering she consistently scored 0 out 0 and everyone knows it. Do you think if this was a random ass competition and not Olympics, people especially black people including I would be reacting that she "murdered" the art form? Nope we wouldn't care

Anyway I'm tired of the dismissal about this

The fuck is all this that she's a bad representation/mockery of the dance and hasn't put in effort?

"Now it has a bad rep" is such a politically focused argument. You want the dancers that only make the culture look good while ignoring the verstalie and diverse artists? Or do you want authentic representation? Beause that's what Raygun discusses in her research.

Did she underperform? Yes
Was the quality of her performance low? Yes
Do people laugh at what she did because it came across corny? Yes
Was it a misrepresentation of the artform? Absolutely fucking not

There is space in Breaking for dancers that are more abstract, non-tradiational and less focused on competition. They are considered more social dancers (cypher bboys/bgirls) that dance with breaking moves to explore ideas, bounce energy off others and don't care how well executed, technically impressive or intricate their moves are. Quite frankly, those dancers are more representative of the original roots of the kids from the late 1970s/early 1980s. She did signature moves of the pioneers from the 80s in sync with the music, but Tiktok wants to label it rolling around for the memes. That side of the dance is a significant part of the culture, and Raygun discusses this in her paper about the sportification of breaking; how that side of the dance doesn't translate to the competition stage as its less about entertainment and skill, and more about social interaction between dancers. She is incredibly informed and understanding of the culture, but one sloppy performance and suddenly she doesn't know anything? Miss me with that shit.

How did a social dancer like Raygun get to such a high level competition? It happens all the time. Sometimes those dancers perform well. Aleef The Deep from Brazil made it to the Red Bull World Finals. He, like Raygun, is more abstract, plays with themes and artistry, and also got zero votes. The way Aleef, Raygun and countless other dancers decide to dance isn't exciting on a large stage or meant to be impressive on a technical scale. Its meant for a small circle vibing to the music with friends. Its the same difference between stand up comedians that tour arenas with sets, and comedians who like to do crowd work at bars. The Canadian commentary even said, if she was in the club right now, they'd be loving it.

Secondly, she took a big gamble. In her post competition interview, she stated that she wasn't going to be able to beat the other younger dancers on atheltic terms, so she decided to put all her energy towards the artistry. This is a very standard battle strategy. She wasn't going to play her oppponent's game, she was going to higlight the elements her opponent chose to ignore. Did it work? No, but not everything works out. That doesn't make her a murderer of the art form. Just because she admitted she can't be them athletically, doesn't imply she can't bring anything to the table. The focus on athletic ability alone is the exact sportification of the dance that Breaking culture is worried about. You can also find the qualifiers that she took part in and she genuinely won all of them. She didn't finesse nothing.

I've been breaking since I was 12 years old for 20 years in Toronto and am black. I know Phil Wizard, Switch B (the canadian announcer on CBC Gem), and train alongside three members of Team Canada that didn't participate this year. I wrote my MA Thesis and have publications on breaking forms. You can argue Raygun is not good at competiting and the quality of her performance was poor. That's fair. But almost all arguments that she is a bad representation of the artform and commenting on her validity as a Breaker is uninformed about what the culture actually is.

If you're mad about how other people are reacting to it, then be mad about them and their uninformed position. Raygun isn't the problem. The problem is how the public decided to react to a very real element of Breaking culture and believing it is fake/wrong. Like it or not, that is a part of breaking. Its not all beautiful, and it doesn't always execute, but it gives space for self expression and we always value that.

Can someone with more melanin than me explain why breaking uses the gendered terms B-Boys and B-Girls? What are the B-Thems supposed to do in the face of this genocide?

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-responds-to-critics-of-his-4k-remasters-%E2%80%9Cmove-out-of-mom%E2%80%99s-basement-and-meet-somebody-%E2%80%9D.951342/#post-127089315

If Cameron has so little respect or care for his own work, he's a fucking hack

[D3RANG3D]

They be illin' they should have a break off for some parachute pants.

[Potato]

Was about to make a hacky joke about darts in the Olympics. But there are genuine lobbyists who might very well make it happen.

Still more of a sport than fucking breakdancing though

 

Because…?

Because there's an objective way of declaring a winner. 

[HardcoreRetro]

That one dude was pretty good at breaking.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Breaking women's faces, that is.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tom-cruise-hijacks-paris-olympics-closing-ceremony-steals-flag-escapes-to-la.950829/page-2#post-127083258

Tom Cruise sucks, fuck him and Scientology

[Boredfrom]

Guys, have you seen some of the Olympics categories? I’m not saying this because I think break dancing deserves to be there but because “darts is better because I can discern how is qualified”  

Not even boomers are like this.

[Boredfrom]

Still more of a sport than fucking breakdancing though

 

Because…?

Because there's an objective way of declaring a winner. 

You mean “I understand what is going on.” 

Is not a shame accepting that, and we can make a debate that there is also others sport categories underserving of an Olympic spot because they also based by judges.

[Potato]

because there's a quantifiable measure of success instead of "ooh that looked neat"

Breaking judging criteria

A minimum of three or more uneven number of judges score the battles on six criteria - creativity, personality, technique, variety, performativity and musicality.

Each parameter has different weightage in a battle, with technique, performativity and creativity constituting 60 per cent of the total score while variety, musicality and personality make up the remaining 40 per cent.

The judges submit their votes after each round and the breaker with the highest points is declared the winner.

Even in gymnastics and diving, which also use judges, there are objective measures and standardised techniques which can be compared between athletes. 

Breakdancing is all about "the vibe". It isn't a sport. It's an attempt by the ballroom dancing cocks to get their shitty "sport" selected too.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/olympics/people-were-really-worried-truth-behind-aussie-breaker-being-picked-for-olympics/news-story/a7b362a04b73138e21ca96fd797e51d4

The first international “battle” recognised by the IOC was in 1997 - but the sport’s breakthrough moment came when it was admitted to the Youth Olympics in 2018.

The problem was, it blindsided the breaking community.

A furore erupted after what some saw as an underhanded plot by the World DanceSport Federation to join the Olympic program.

The WDSF initially wanted to get ballroom dancing in the Games, but knew it was seen as too dated to secure the audience Olympic officials were desperate to attain - GenZ.

So without any official global organisation to challenge them, the WDSF pivoted to breaking. And suddenly the sport was in the Olympics.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/australian-breaking-competitor-raygun-goes-viral-after-olympic-performance.950001/page-8#post-127088733

The fuck is all this that she's a bad representation/mockery of the dance and hasn't put in effort?

"Now it has a bad rep" is such a politically focused argument. You want the dancers that only make the culture look good while ignoring the verstalie and diverse artists? Or do you want authentic representation? Beause that's what Raygun discusses in her research.

Did she underperform? Yes
Was the quality of her performance low? Yes
Do people laugh at what she did because it came across corny? Yes
Was it a misrepresentation of the artform? Absolutely fucking not

[snip] 

I've been breaking since I was 12 years old for 20 years in Toronto and am black. I know Phil Wizard, Switch B (the canadian announcer on CBC Gem), and train alongside three members of Team Canada that didn't participate this year. I wrote my MA Thesis and have publications on breaking forms. You can argue Raygun is not good at competiting and the quality of her performance was poor. That's fair. But almost all arguments that she is a bad representation of the artform and commenting on her validity as a Breaker is uninformed about what the culture actually is.

If you're mad about how other people are reacting to it, then be mad about them and their uninformed position. Raygun isn't the problem. The problem is how the public decided to react to a very real element of Breaking culture and believing it is fake/wrong. Like it or not, that is a part of breaking. Its not all beautiful, and it doesn't always execute, but it gives space for self expression and we always value that.

Era so obnoxious you have random high level breakers registering for the sole purpose of dressing down the entire board. 

This poster registered yesterday, and this long-ass recrimination is their only post.

[Uncle]

Guys, have you seen some of the Olympics categories? I’m not saying this because I think break dancing deserves to be there but because “darts is better because I can discern how is qualified”  

Not even boomers are like this.

yes, the other unquantifiable ones are not sports either

[YuYu]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/slur-word-on-construction-barrier-on-school-being-torn-down-near-me.951345/

Bro even made a reddit post about it.

[Potato]

Guys, have you seen some of the Olympics categories? I’m not saying this because I think break dancing deserves to be there but because “darts is better because I can discern how is qualified”  

Not even boomers are like this.

Darts is fucking great to watch.

Fat drunk broken dudes with great skills

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/slur-word-on-construction-barrier-on-school-being-torn-down-near-me.951345/

So they are rebuilding an elementary school in my neighborhood which involves tearing down the old school. Me and my hubby were walking and peering at the construction zone and I noticed some one in big letters painted the word N****R (I'm pretty sure you can figure out what word that is, I don't want to type it in full) on one of the construction barriers. In that orange type paint they use in construction to mark off areas so it doesn't seem like it would be some vandal came in and did it (or if they did they found the paint lying around).

Even if so, if I were working there, I'd take five minutes of my time painting over htat and they are just leaving it there out in the open (to be fair they have barriers that mostly block views but there are holes torn through them to let wind go through and whne they are working on it you can see it through the entranceway so it's not even like they can expect it not to be seen by others. But I personally woulnd't even want to see it if I worked there so it makes me question the employees on that one.

I put a pic on reddit but you really can't see it very clearly (I didn't want to trespass so I couldn't get close and even with my zoom on my camera it didn't get close): https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fschool-is-being-torn-down-near-me-asshole-wrote-this-on-v0-aaqtupe05aid1.jpeg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D761fabe85331e916623413ef979b2f174a6ed90d (I did put two arrows pointing to the word). It's very readable in real life vs that picture.

It's angering enough to see stuff like this but for me personally even more infuriating to see it in my own neighborhood.

[Boredfrom]

Whoo

Even in gymnastics and diving, which also use judges, there are objective measures and standardised techniques which can be compared between athletes.

Come on dude, you think everyone agreed about this objective measures just over a week at those sports? You think there has not been shit shows about what deserved a win or not over qualifying standards? A lot of it also depends of “vibes”.

I’m not even defending the inclusion but the need to say “darts deserves it better… even if both still require some sort of physical effort and skill, but one can be judge by points over vibes… even if the other requires way more physical effort.”

[Boredfrom]

Guys, have you seen some of the Olympics categories? I’m not saying this because I think break dancing deserves to be there but because “darts is better because I can discern how is qualified”  

Not even boomers are like this.

yes, the other unquantifiable ones are not sports either

That is pretty fair.

Many people will not agree with you in that, may be offended (while others that love the activity and compete may actually agree  )

[HaughtyFrank]

I noticed some one in big letters painted the word N****R (I'm pretty sure you can figure out what word that is, I don't want to type it in full)

[Boredfrom]

Guys, have you seen some of the Olympics categories? I’m not saying this because I think break dancing deserves to be there but because “darts is better because I can discern how is qualified”  

Not even boomers are like this.

Darts is fucking great to watch.

Fat drunk broken dudes with great skills

Your words, not mine.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/australian-breaking-competitor-raygun-goes-viral-after-olympic-performance.950001/post-127088733

The fuck is all this that she's a bad representation/mockery of the dance and hasn't put in effort?

"Now it has a bad rep" is such a politically focused argument. You want the dancers that only make the culture look good while ignoring the verstalie and diverse artists? Or do you want authentic representation? Beause that's what Raygun discusses in her research.

Did she underperform? Yes
Was the quality of her performance low? Yes
Do people laugh at what she did because it came across corny? Yes
Was it a misrepresentation of the artform? Absolutely fucking not

There is space in Breaking for dancers that are more abstract, non-tradiational and less focused on competition. They are considered more social dancers (cypher bboys/bgirls) that dance with breaking moves to explore ideas, bounce energy off others and don't care how well executed, technically impressive or intricate their moves are. Quite frankly, those dancers are more representative of the original roots of the kids from the late 1970s/early 1980s. She did signature moves of the pioneers from the 80s in sync with the music, but Tiktok wants to label it rolling around for the memes. That side of the dance is a significant part of the culture, and Raygun discusses this in her paper about the sportification of breaking; how that side of the dance doesn't translate to the competition stage as its less about entertainment and skill, and more about social interaction between dancers. She is incredibly informed and understanding of the culture, but one sloppy performance and suddenly she doesn't know anything? Miss me with that shit.

How did a social dancer like Raygun get to such a high level competition? It happens all the time. Sometimes those dancers perform well. Aleef The Deep from Brazil made it to the Red Bull World Finals. He, like Raygun, is more abstract, plays with themes and artistry, and also got zero votes. The way Aleef, Raygun and countless other dancers decide to dance isn't exciting on a large stage or meant to be impressive on a technical scale. Its meant for a small circle vibing to the music with friends. Its the same difference between stand up comedians that tour arenas with sets, and comedians who like to do crowd work at bars. The Canadian commentary even said, if she was in the club right now, they'd be loving it.

Secondly, she took a big gamble. In her post competition interview, she stated that she wasn't going to be able to beat the other younger dancers on atheltic terms, so she decided to put all her energy towards the artistry. This is a very standard battle strategy. She wasn't going to play her oppponent's game, she was going to higlight the elements her opponent chose to ignore. Did it work? No, but not everything works out. That doesn't make her a murderer of the art form. Just because she admitted she can't be them athletically, doesn't imply she can't bring anything to the table. The focus on athletic ability alone is the exact sportification of the dance that Breaking culture is worried about. You can also find the qualifiers that she took part in and she genuinely won all of them. She didn't finesse nothing.

I've been breaking since I was 12 years old for 20 years in Toronto and am black. I know Phil Wizard, Switch B (the canadian announcer on CBC Gem), and train alongside three members of Team Canada that didn't participate this year. I wrote my MA Thesis and have publications on breaking forms. You can argue Raygun is not good at competiting and the quality of her performance was poor. That's fair. But almost all arguments that she is a bad representation of the artform and commenting on her validity as a Breaker is uninformed about what the culture actually is.

If you're mad about how other people are reacting to it, then be mad about them and their uninformed position. Raygun isn't the problem. The problem is how the public decided to react to a very real element of Breaking culture and believing it is fake/wrong. Like it or not, that is a part of breaking. Its not all beautiful, and it doesn't always execute, but it gives space for self expression and we always value that.

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[HardcoreRetro]

Windbreaking should be the next olympic sport.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/slur-word-on-construction-barrier-on-school-being-torn-down-near-me.951345/

Bro even made a reddit post about it.

big letters painted the word N****R (I'm pretty sure you can figure out what word that is, I don't want to type it in full)

B-Dubs rn

[Besticus Maximus]

Yeah? Well I've been breakin' since wiggidy warren won the slickback bowl in 92

I've thrown down with the mister sisters four times and was voted illest breaker on the floor at my high school