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[kaleidoscopium]

“We aren’t impressed by you people who waited for the full story before saying fuck Disney”

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/beau-demayo-allegedly-sent-nude-photos-of-himself-in-sexually-suggestive-hero-poses-to-several-young-male-staffers-working-on-x-men-97-saying-the.954690/post-127266024

I think it's simpler than that. It's less that creepy people end up in positions of power disproportionately often, and more that when people abuse DO their power it does damage, while the people who don't are the default. The people who don't abuse their power don't make waves and don't merit mentions.

Like, when I was a young actor a decade or so ago, an artistic director tried to convince me to do "private" rehearsals for a play at his house and kept asking me how comfortable I was with nude work. He assumed that since I was a young actor who fit the classical twink look, I MUST have been cool with that stuff, and he asked about it repeatedly until I got so uncomfortable that I cut ties with the theatre for good and alienated a bunch of friends over it because I didn't want to talk about it in public.

Guess who this is lol

Probably could have been in a Bryan Singer movie if he had played his cards butt right

[Vertigo]

These exchanges oh my 

there was more than enough information in the OP to be skeptical of demayo's claims for anyone with an ounce of critical thinking ability. a few people here were even saying so before further information came out! yet the first page of this thread is dominated with unserious "fuck disney" sentiment, seemingly entirely because demayo is a queer POC and/or because xmen 97 rules (which i agree with). not really a great starting point for adult discussion IMO but what do i know

In your opinion sure there was more than enough, maybe some people did not pick up on it, or maybe some people didn't find it hard to believe a corporation would act in the wrong towards an employee, especially a queer POC, it's not like there is any historical shortage of that. Some people got it wrong, we can recognize that, then what? I don't think they owe it to any of us complete strangers to personally apologize or anything, things just keep moving and now we discuss stuff with the new info we have.

sure. but if i were an admin of this forum, rather than saying "cool off on criticising people for making stupid kneejerk hot takes", i would consider saying "cool off on making stupid kneejerk hot takes" instead.

no shaming or victory points here, but is a little self-reflection too much to ask for? i care about this community and i really think it's consistently being hurt by the collective rush to get opinions off in the "correct" direction before actually thinking about the subject matter.

like, this one really wasn't hard to figure out.

But you're not an admin.

Admins and the rest of staff are not and never have impressed by members who come back to these kinds of threads to chastise those who had the audacity to merely react to someone's claims of harm at face value. It's not even inherently a behavior that harms you or the discussion quality.

Knock off the metacommentary. That goes for everyone.

345 better watch out. Reeee doesn’t do reflection very well. And Nep loves coming back later and quietly banning people.

[Boredfrom]

PlaSma

[wizardora]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/beau-demayo-allegedly-sent-nude-photos-of-himself-in-sexually-suggestive-hero-poses-to-several-young-male-staffers-working-on-x-men-97-saying-the.954690/post-127266024

I think it's simpler than that. It's less that creepy people end up in positions of power disproportionately often, and more that when people abuse DO their power it does damage, while the people who don't are the default. The people who don't abuse their power don't make waves and don't merit mentions.

Like, when I was a young actor a decade or so ago, an artistic director tried to convince me to do "private" rehearsals for a play at his house and kept asking me how comfortable I was with nude work. He assumed that since I was a young actor who fit the classical twink look, I MUST have been cool with that stuff, and he asked about it repeatedly until I got so uncomfortable that I cut ties with the theatre for good and alienated a bunch of friends over it because I didn't want to talk about it in public.

Guess who this is lol

PlaSma

See, I was angling more towards MIMIC, but there we are.

[Boredfrom]

Is funny how Nepenthe throw  Smiling Friends under the bus (a show she expressed loving before someone tried to make a shitshow on Twitter/4chan) but she immediately castigates anyone that don’t take Beau side and siding with a corpo (probably because how big of fanboys of Disney/Marvel the majority of the forum is).

[Jansen]

345 you better start making your alt. They might not ban you for your posts In that thread but you're marked for death now

[Boredfrom]

Beau DeMayo has been extremely manipulative era. Please dont get personal or vindictive over people feeling some type of way one minute and different the next. The bad vibes are all on him.

“Pls, don’t call me a naive retard for posting a drive by comment without even bothering to read the last page. Good vibes only on Resetera, pls.”

[Shecky Fragbaum]

If staff hadn't *insisted* upon taking the headline as gospel and setting the tone for that X-Men thread there wouldn't be an issue with people requesting the consumption of crow. 

It makes you all look so, so petty and cowardly. Luckily, nobody expects anything more from Royalan and pals.

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/beau-demayo-allegedly-sent-nude-photos-of-himself-in-sexually-suggestive-hero-poses-to-several-young-male-staffers-working-on-x-men-97-saying-the.954690/post-127266024


Guess who this is lol

PlaSma

See, I was angling more towards MIMIC, but there we are.

It was the “when I was a young actor”’that swung it for me, he’s been everything lol

[Boredfrom]

Do some of you all hate each other? I also prefer people to not jump to conclusions and only pay attention to the facts presented (and be open to changing opinions as more comes to light), but the way some of you are attacking the first responders for not being clairvoyant seems downright strange and unnecessary. You want them to apologize for believing the marginalized creator over the (until now) silent corporation? I suppose they could be more cautious in the future, but I don't think they were necessarily evil for their reactions. The glee over them being wrong for trusting just seems completely odd.

This is far bigger thing than this thread, but I've felt more and more over time that for the average person, the need to feel superior to others is a major motivator for our behaviour. I'm sure I'm not any better in that regard.

 

Your first genuine self reflection on the forum in a decade, Thammy. Congrats (?).

[Besticus Maximus]

Listen chuds, it’s not the horny moderators fault that he supported the horny guy he follows. How was he to know?

Plus mods and admins are not like normal users. They are not impressed or amused by such things as dismissing concerns which have been dismissed.

[kaleidoscopium]

Lmao thread locked, nepenthe had to run to b dumbs 

There's no value in raking each other over the coals, in navel gazing or crapping on each other's heads does none of us any good and just buries the stories of those who were victimized under our own self-centeredness.

So knock off the sniping at people who posted earlier in the thread, before the real story started coming out.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/beau-demayo-allegedly-sent-nude-photos-of-himself-in-sexually-suggestive-hero-poses-to-several-young-male-staffers-working-on-x-men-97-saying-the.954690/page-14#post-127272648

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Never Forget the First Responders

[Besticus Maximus]

Imagine if that forum actually knew how many threads got locked and memory holed because they were watching us laugh at watching them

[kaleidoscopium]

Now back open, will 345 be banned today or in the next few weeks?

[Boredfrom]

There's no value in raking each other over the coals, in navel gazing or crapping on each other's heads does none of us any good and just buries the stories of those who were victimized under our own self-centeredness.

Later that day:

“WHY IS THIS FORUM SO STUPID?!”

[Shecky Fragbaum]

Locking the thread is unquestionably the most efficient way to show everyone how unimpressed staff are by their "critical thinking" shenanigans.

[nachobro]

If staff hadn't *insisted* upon taking the headline as gospel and setting the tone for that X-Men thread there wouldn't be an issue with people requesting the consumption of crow. 

It makes you all look so, so petty and cowardly. Luckily, nobody expects anything more from Royalan and pals.

exactly, that thread now has banged against the unwritten rule 0: resetti staff are never wrong, ever.

[Boredfrom]

While Disney is performative in their progressive politics, is clear they care enough to get in a hissy fight with a governor just to placate their LGBT employees.  And given how many weirdos and borderline sex pests are in the western animation industry, I imagine they can tolerate this behavior as long it is not blatant like this dude was doing.

RE wants more sex positive stuff but that doesn’t mean tolerate IRL shit behavior while decrying the lack of agency of imaginary people. Is just the double faced stuff that religious people do.

[Besticus Maximus]

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Imagine if that forum actually knew how many threads got locked and memory holed because they were watching us laugh at watching them

A few minutes after I post this, thread is unlocked lol

Are we actually the moderators there now?

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtubers-who-you-sub-but-then-certain-red-flags-show-up-that-they-become-or-are-maga.952383/page-8#post-127245276

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtubers-who-you-sub-but-then-certain-red-flags-show-up-that-they-become-or-are-maga.952383/page-8#post-127245276

How good of friends could you have been with someone, if you didn't know they were an asshole?

[negativecrepe]

any other forum would use that thread as a moment of clarity and say yeah we should have people knock it off with making assumptions but era just doubles down on it

its like every possible thing right they could do they have to do the opposite. how is there any justification for a mod saying they 'arent impressed' with people that dont rush to judgment?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/beau-demayo-allegedly-sent-nude-photos-of-himself-in-sexually-suggestive-hero-poses-to-several-young-male-staffers-working-on-x-men-97-saying-the.954690/post-127266024


Guess who this is lol

PlaSma

See, I was angling more towards MIMIC, but there we are.

Mimic would have deep throated the guy and a homeless guy for good measure in an alley without a second thought.

[benji]

sure. but if i were an admin of this forum, rather than saying "cool off on criticising people for making stupid kneejerk hot takes", i would consider saying "cool off on making stupid kneejerk hot takes" instead.

But you're not an admin.

Admins and the rest of staff are not and never have impressed by members who come back to these kinds of threads to chastise those who had the audacity to merely react to someone's claims of harm at face value. It's not even inherently a behavior that harms you or the discussion quality.

Knock off the metacommentary. That goes for everyone.

Do some of you all hate each other? I also prefer people to not jump to conclusions and only pay attention to the facts presented (and be open to changing opinions as more comes to light), but the way some of you are attacking the first responders for not being clairvoyant seems downright strange and unnecessary. You want them to apologize for believing the marginalized creator over the (until now) silent corporation? I suppose they could be more cautious in the future, but I don't think they were necessarily evil for their reactions. The glee over them being wrong for trusting just seems completely odd.

There's no value in raking each other over the coals, in navel gazing or crapping on each other's heads does none of us any good and just buries the stories of those who were victimized under our own self-centeredness.

So knock off the sniping at people who posted earlier in the thread, before the real story started coming out.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/beau-demayo-allegedly-sent-nude-photos-of-himself-in-sexually-suggestive-hero-poses-to-several-young-male-staffers-working-on-x-men-97-saying-the.954690/page-14#post-127272648

It's not navel gazing (do you know what that means?) and it does good because it is community self-policing to demand skepticism instead of blind reaction. The discussion absolutely is harmed when you have to go many pages into a thread before people are actually discussing a topic because a bunch of idiots have to rush in and signal how good they are. And this has a cascading effect because every mention of the topic from then on will be people only referencing what was said early in the thread and they take this as full knowledge of a topic they're now an expert about even though that narrative has completely fallen apart.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtubers-who-you-sub-but-then-certain-red-flags-show-up-that-they-become-or-are-maga.952383/page-8#post-127245276

Thanks for letting us know who they are so we can stay safe.

[Potato]

While Disney is performative in their progressive politics, is clear they care enough to get in a hissy fight with a governor just to placate their LGBT employees.  And given how many weirdos and borderline sex pests are in the western animation industry, I imagine they can tolerate this behavior as long it is not blatant like this dude was doing.

RE wants more sex positive stuff but that doesn’t mean tolerate IRL shit behavior while decrying the lack of agency of imaginary people. Is just the double faced stuff that religious people do.

Just western? Animation industry everywhere in the world seems to attract the worst of the worst and the diehard fans are just as bad.

[JoeBoy101]

sure. but if i were an admin of this forum, rather than saying "cool off on criticising people for making stupid kneejerk hot takes", i would consider saying "cool off on making stupid kneejerk hot takes" instead.

But you're not an admin.

Admins and the rest of staff are not and never have impressed by members who come back to these kinds of threads to chastise those who had the audacity to merely react to someone's claims of harm at face value. It's not even inherently a behavior that harms you or the discussion quality.

Knock off the metacommentary. That goes for everyone.

 

“Pls, never call me out for anything, you plebeians.”

And I’m not impressed with mods who ban people with no following the narrative of that face value, and then get uppity when they got called out after the fact for their draconian approach. I’d say ‘rules’ but like an evil, petty, vindictive version of  “Whose Line Is It Anyways”, the rules don’t matter and the opinions all made up.

[Potato]

any other forum would use that thread as a moment of clarity and say yeah we should have people knock it off with making assumptions but era just doubles down on it

its like every possible thing right they could do they have to do the opposite. how is there any justification for a mod saying they 'arent impressed' with people that dont rush to judgment?

There's nothing inherently WRONG when people jump to conclusions and get it wrong. Shit happens all the time on the internet and off. 

The problem, as exhibited regularly by Retardera, is that the wrong opinion is reinforced by the moderation as the ONLY acceptable opinion to hold and even when they are once again proven to have got it completely wrong, those punished are never forgiven and those who got shit wrong are given pats on the head and told "it's ok, you couldn't have known" even when it was very clear they should have known that something didn't quite add up.