Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

I'm just so tired about the gaming community constantly being so horrible. Racism this, racism that. What about the lesbians?!?

[Uncle]

It's always been obvious, but people have absolutely shown their whole ass this year.

Make your own game ( Woke DEI Garbage, let's spread outrage)

Use a historical figure (Woke DEI garbage, let's spread outrage)

Revisit an existing thing and add diversity or consult SBI (Woke DEI Garbage, Let's spread Outrage).

It's like a ouroboros of goalpost moving where basically no matter what is done, you did it 'wrong'.

can't help but notice how all of the above examples involve shoehorning in woke DEI garbage

suppose you tried doing any of the above but just chose not to include any LGBT content in the game, like older games

it's really not necessarily relevant in all contexts, like if it's a sexless weird world platformer, or a zombie survival game, or dudebro FPS

maybe try that and see what happens

[benji]

Besides even if this particular case isn't an example of Disney trying to shut down queer sex liberation that doesn't mean it still isn't an example of the media manufacturing consent for capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy rather than interrogating these systems in an intersectional way so as to divest from them on the path to overthrow them permanently.

[Boredfrom]

Besides even if this particular case isn't an example of Disney trying to shut down queer sex liberation that doesn't mean it still isn't an example of the media manufacturing consent for capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy rather than interrogating these systems in an intersectional way so as to divest from them on the path to overthrow them permanently.

But anyway, you know that Deadpool & Wolverine is the top grossing r-rated film and surpassed that CHUd DC film. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/‘deadpool-wolverine’-becomes-top-grossing-r-rated-pic-of-all-time-passing-joker.955194/

Take that capitalism Zaslav

[benji]

Not enough women of color in it for the chuds to try and sabotage it. Film was very white and cishet. Chuds like Joanne didn't even realize how queer-coded Cassandra Nova is.

[ComeAgain]

The constant cries about the capitalist overlords ring so goddamn hollow as they post about it on a VIDEO GAME forum.

[Boredfrom]

It's always been obvious, but people have absolutely shown their whole ass this year.

Make your own game ( Woke DEI Garbage, let's spread outrage)

Use a historical figure (Woke DEI garbage, let's spread outrage)

Revisit an existing thing and add diversity or consult SBI (Woke DEI Garbage, Let's spread Outrage).

It's like a ouroboros of goalpost moving where basically no matter what is done, you did it 'wrong'.

can't help but notice how all of the above examples involve shoehorning in woke DEI garbage

suppose you tried doing any of the above but just chose not to include any LGBT content in the game, like older games

it's really not necessarily relevant in all contexts, like if it's a sexless weird world platformer, or a zombie survival game, or dudebro FPS

maybe try that and see what happens

Being fair, most of those games suffered more for being incredibly mediocre rather than suffering from the DEI boogeyman. Maybe the Yosuke stuff could be labeled as DEI  because how hard Ubisoft is trying to sell the character as someone of great significance in their weird virtual tourism game while there is a ton of historic figures the greater importance on that period. And would still be weird calling it that because the whole game is about a predominantly non Anglo country.

[benji]

The constant cries about the capitalist overlords ring so goddamn hollow as they post about it on a VIDEO GAME forum.

Not the fact that they're all from America or Europe and work predominately in service, media or other "cultural" fields?

[Boredfrom]

Already hate that even this good thing (hiring POC performers to perform their music that the game is OBVIOUSLY taking from is an objective good) is being twisted into being another way to shit on the people that are upset about how MHY is fucking over the char representation in game.

"Oh, so you care more about FAKE characters than the real life people getting jobs?"

No, you fucking dunce, one does not supercede the other, it was never an either-or choice; it's still as fucked up that they're pointedly not having any (aside from Ianslan, likely out of obligation) darker skinned characters be playable as before this came out (if anything, it makes it even more obvious what they're doing in game).

I think people are saying that this is more significant to hire POC to perform music on this game than bitching about the skin color of imaginary people in a Chinese video game.

There has been worse examples of whitewashing cultures in weeb games (why Fate/GO, why? ) but this game seems to attract more bitching about it.

[benji]

Already hate that even this good thing (hiring POC performers to perform their music that the game is OBVIOUSLY taking from is an objective good) is being twisted into being another way to shit on the people that are upset about how MHY is fucking over the char representation in game.

"Oh, so you care more about FAKE characters than the real life people getting jobs?"

No, you fucking dunce, one does not supercede the other, it was never an either-or choice;

It is for the people being offered jobs.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Maybe if you're working in children's cartoons your public social media shouldn't scream "this guy fucks...hard" (as described by the youngest mod).

[Averon]

I see the mods, and Royalan in particular, learned absolutely nothing from the Jussie Smollet fiasco. In fact, it seems they decided to double down, as they seemingly always do, instead of self-reflect and admit they jumped the gun.

[benji]

But what if one of these stories is true and you didn't signal how good of person you are with the correct views before everyone else?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/parents-take-their-kids-to-see-alien-in-1979-video.955686/#post-127282140

At least those Gen X kids had parents who bothered to spend time with them instead of leaving a garden hose hooked up outside while they went to work in the summer.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/parents-take-their-kids-to-see-alien-in-1979-video.955686/#post-127282140

yeah i always go to early showings and late into a films run cuz i hate other people, so my tickets are usually 6-8 dollars even after fees

normally they are like 12

But… dog is man's best friend. Dog can't hate man.

Man's. One. Singular. The leader of the pack, not every moron you run into.

You played along with his "bit" and you botched it. Sommit to be ashamed of.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/beau-demayo-allegedly-sent-nude-photos-of-himself-in-sexually-suggestive-hero-poses-to-several-young-male-staffers-working-on-x-men-97.954690/page-14#post-127286370

It seems like people earlier in the thread called it, this has the signs of pathological narcissism. That would also explain the hypersexuality and incessant thirst trapping, I don't think it's "being too sex-positive for his own good". He displays a lack of boundary recognition & emotional empathy for his alleged victims, a sense of entitlement, no accountability for his actions, grandiosity, a need for attention and praise, and is defending against perceived threats to his control (him being booted from the show)

Sounds like Nothing Loud.

[Polident]

It's always been obvious, but people have absolutely shown their whole ass this year.

Make your own game ( Woke DEI Garbage, let's spread outrage)

Use a historical figure (Woke DEI garbage, let's spread outrage)

Revisit an existing thing and add diversity or consult SBI (Woke DEI Garbage, Let's spread Outrage).

It's like a ouroboros of goalpost moving where basically no matter what is done, you did it 'wrong'.

can't help but notice how all of the above examples involve shoehorning in woke DEI garbage

suppose you tried doing any of the above but just chose not to include any LGBT content in the game, like older games

it's really not necessarily relevant in all contexts, like if it's a sexless weird world platformer, or a zombie survival game, or dudebro FPS

maybe try that and see what happens

Unintentionally the guy admits everybody from smaller creators to big corporations all placate the cult. Including changing old media to meet 2024 San Fransisco thinking. It is, in most senses, a victory. Normal mentally stable people would be happy that media fits the criteria they claim they want. 

But it’s never enough. Random guys online not blindly consuming disney or ubisoft junk is a problem. Creators from East Asia doing their own thing is a problem. Everything needs to coalesce into a grey formless blob. Nobody is happy, and maybe that’s the goal for them.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/beau-demayo-allegedly-sent-nude-photos-of-himself-in-sexually-suggestive-hero-poses-to-several-young-male-staffers-working-on-x-men-97.954690/page-14#post-127286370

It seems like people earlier in the thread called it, this has the signs of pathological narcissism. That would also explain the hypersexuality and incessant thirst trapping, I don't think it's "being too sex-positive for his own good". He displays a lack of boundary recognition & emotional empathy for his alleged victims, a sense of entitlement, no accountability for his actions, grandiosity, a need for attention and praise, and is defending against perceived threats to his control (him being booted from the show)

Sounds like you just aren't sex-positive enough, fascist.

Everything needs to coalesce into a grey formless blob. Nobody is happy, and maybe that’s the goal for them.

It is. Probably not deliberately but it's the obvious only feasible result.

To the counterargument that it's deliberate because that will server to accelerate the revolutionary uprising I would argue that they consider this media to be necessary revolutionary praxis so would not deliberately sabotage it, that's entirely of their own "intersectional solidarity" making.

This was a problem many have had with developing politically correct revolutionary propaganda. Especially within a bureaucratic system that allows no dissent.

[Boredfrom]

I mean, I don’t mind that people make games like Tales of Kenzera or Flintlock. I mind when those creators act like they’re entitled to get good sales just cause diversity.

I felt like it was auto sabotage when the Tales of Kenzera dude went in a rant about how racists tainted the game.  I’m still interested in playing that game, but sure as hell I’m not paying full price.

[benji]

Has somebody done a parody where a show starts, the characters all introduce their many diverse identities and then the runtime is over because of how long it took? Feels so obvious that someone has surely done it.

[Boredfrom]

Has somebody done a parody where a show starts, the characters all introduce their many diverse identities and then the runtime is over because of how long it took? Feels so obvious that someone has surely done it.

The closest thing is this, I think:

[benji]

I thought of that even though it's different and came back to post it.

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bbc-actors-demand-action-over-disgusting-explicit-video-game-scenes.955707/page-2

This is a great thread, we have it all, the confirmation bias of “I thought it was David Cage” along with the “fuck David cage” stuff and “quantic dreams springs to mind” along with the odd “rockstar” post too.

Then we hit the good stuff of saying why is sex even needed in video games, but this is the same site that loved the sex in TLOU 2 because it pissed off the people they don’t like.

[Daffy Duck]

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Is weird how people react about this stuff on social media. What the dude did was arguably worse than what other creatives have done and got witch hunted for (I was remembering MikeZ being an asshole boss) but he was able to maintain a relatively good reputation. Even Royalan still wants to bat for him because “sexual liberation”.

I want to respectfully caution against this current track of conversation. With the caveat that multiple people in this thread have acknowledged either knowing or having first and/or secondhand accounts of DeMayo's behavior. I'm not ruling over them, I don't know him better than they do, and I absolutely respect their contribution to the discussion.

I just want to caution against the conflation of "sexual liberation" to "sexual predation." That conflation is often instinctual, but not often true. Sexual misconduct/assault, especially in the workplace, is sadly common. And oftentimes, it's committed by people who wouldn't consider themselves, or even be described as, "sexually liberal." In many cases, the opposite.

This is worth pointing out because the likening to predation is often used to stifle sex positive movements -- which range from the act of sex to non-heteronormative sexual and gender identity.

But he sold himself as that, you sold him as that: A sex positive creator that cannot fail that needed to maintain his queerness in check for working in a big ass corporation.

If it was a hetero dude being openly horny on social media you would already tried to cancel his show even before this revelations. 

“What a perv” “Creepy pig” “Cancel him.”

Sexual liberation is not reserved for queer people only.

Look at the Wukong team, one of the leaders I think it was in the IGN article was posting thirsty stuff about liking to be licked and he’s now a sexual misogynist and the game is trash lol. Guess it’s because it’s someone on their team they want to brush it under the carpet

[Nintex]

As I'm watching Dragon Ball I can't help but think this would've never been a global hit today. It wouldn't pass the DEI test and Toriyama would've never gotten the funding to make his best work.

Animation and games would've been set back decades as I can clearly see how by season 3 this quirky 1986 anime was far ahead of its time and inspired tons of other creators.

It's sad that the world no longer rewards or discovers such talent thanks to the influence of the woke cult and cancel culture.

[remy]

If you're hot and gay other gay men let you get away with a lot of shit.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Look being a sex positive gay man isn't a bad thing OKAY?! JUST ACCEPT BEING SEXUALLY HARASSED!

[Besticus Maximus]

Resetera serves adverts for furry role play forums. They are the sex pests.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

 Warned for speaking the truth.

[Daffy Duck]

A fun little exchange

Hey don't forget about Lively sticking up for Harvey Weinstein when the allegations came up.

I mean this in all sincerity and not snidely, could you provide a source, sorry?

I saw a video about it but can't find it now but this article quotes her comments about it:

You realize saying that someone defended Weinstein is a pretty big accusation right? And actually defending him should be enough to never have them cast in a movie or show again.

And that nowhere in the article you posted Lively comes even close to what could be interpreted as sticking up for him.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anybody-been-following-the-blake-lively-%E2%80%9Cit-ends-with-us%E2%80%9D-controversy.953472/page-11#post-127286274

Just another one of those instances of “oh yeah I totally saw this” but have no source to back it up, but yeah trust me it totally happened, here’s a random source that doesn’t at all confirm what I just said, but yeah the original think definitely happened.

And they wonder why they’re suckered into fake news all the time