Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Jansen]

Malds doesn't have guts to change his name.

Cut off your dick malds *knifeissosharp* 

[Polident]

Good luck with that. These accounts that spew nothing but hate, they're making money for their owners and for Youtube for example. They create engagement. They wouldn't be shown to everyone if they weren't good for business for someone.

And what exactly can Disney do? Complain that people are being assholes on the Internet? Okay, if the accounts show Disney content, okay, they might pick that up, but it's pretty much guaranteed that will have "legitimate use" victims too, not to mention blowback for Disney, once people start complaining that they're not following fair use laws, and even worse, if they go after only a specific type of accounts.

Telling people to cut it out, well, it's something, doubt it would do much.

We simply don't usually have the tools to deal with millions of people having an opinion on us / our work. No idea what the solution is, but I doubt it'll come from corporations, it's going to take government.

How can you type that and not get called out?

In the re-education camps


"She-Hulk is bad!"

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-folie-%C3%A0-deux-receives-a-d-on-cinemascore-the-lowest-ever-for-a-comic-book-movie.1001454/page-10#post-129793776

Doing the unexpected in Felony Ford Flopola's book means fighting the woke mob and grabbing what he wants.

I do like this thing Era does where Trump is literally the Final Boss of Life on Earth, but then they adopt his cutesy mannerisms. 

"Trump will usher in an era of ceaseless darkness...but Sleepy Joe is pretty funny, lemme try that out!"

[Snoopy]

Malds gets a Steam Deck but what about Dr Nothing Loud?

I'm in for a treat because:

- Persona 5 Royal is one of my favorite games of all time
- Didn't play the Metaphor demo
- Have been blind/media blackout since announcement. Haven't seen a single trailer and didn't know this was coming out
- Wasn't tracking the critical reception to the demo
- 94 MC Persona-team game suddenly is out for me to try.

It's like a surprise gift.

Too bad I'm broke and can't afford it lol but I live vicariously through the OT and review videos, I suppose!

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/metaphor-refantazio-review-thread.1002525/page-12

[DavidCroquet]

Too bad I'm broke and can't afford it lol

But when have you ever let that lil obstacle stop you, doc?

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-silent-hill-2-remake-wikipedia-page-locked-after-salty-fans-try-to-rewrite-its-critically-acclaimed-reception.1002072/page-6#post-129805926

As much as I'd like to assume it's that chud who kept sending us porn in tickets, I don't think he wants to lose his "highly-coveted" Wiki Editor title. It's the only thing he has in life.

We do a lil drunken doxxing.

[Steven Snell]

FF7 Rebirth? The game that has Cloud looking down Tifa's swimsuit top?
AstroBot? The game that genders poor astro as male, when they's clearly a genderless robot? 
We already know ReFantazio is gonna be a phobic mess of hate and genocide!

If any game is GOTY, it better be Concord!

Astro Bot possibly problematic going for when Elliot Page was Ellen. I'm sure the trans mafia could have issues with this:

[Boredfrom]

I wonder how ERA people are going to react about Metaphor in the long run. In the demo the game seems full aware that fantasy racism is not the same as IRL racism and the elite monsters are called “humans”.  Reviewers says that the game is hopeful but also sounds like the usual crowd will act like is the wrist stuff ever after the honeymoon face ends. 

I like Fairy Yukari and my first male side kick is not a Yusuke/Junpei.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-silent-hill-2-remake-wikipedia-page-locked-after-salty-fans-try-to-rewrite-its-critically-acclaimed-reception.1002072/page-6#post-129805926

As much as I'd like to assume it's that chud who kept sending us porn in tickets, I don't think he wants to lose his "highly-coveted" Wiki Editor title. It's the only thing he has in life.

We do a lil drunken doxxing.

Do it, you coward.

[Besticus Maximus]

I wonder how ERA people are going to react about Metaphor in the long run. In the demo the game seems full aware that fantasy racism is not the same as IRL racism and the elite monsters are called “humans”.  Reviewers says that the game is hopeful but also sounds like the usual crowd will act like is the wrist stuff ever after the honeymoon face ends. 

I like Fairy Yukari and my first male side kick is not a Yusuke/Junpei.

I've played through the demo, the game rules. When it landed they were quite down on it but the reviews dropping has changed the tone of things.

[Steven Snell]

Wait wait Valkaria was a troll? That's amazing.

[JoeBoy101]

That EU approving Tariffs on Chinese EV’s thread is on spicy overload.

Member PES, an obvious alt, publishes some lengthy rant… to get…

I just want to point this out: you're literally talking down to someone who actually lives in the place you're trying to discuss. Seriously, the hell is wrong with some of you guys?

Is "living in the place" somehow a qualifier that discards any type of incorrect, incomplete or biased analysis? And can you elaborate in what way prodding that is such as absurd exercise?

I wonder, how would you deal with a discussion topic when there's two people that "live in the place" disagree, like happens every day in this forum? Do you just raise your hands up and assume there must be no reasonable way to understand something, or is in that scenario prodding more reasonable? If it's more reasonable then, why is not reasonable now?

FWIW I'm not even claiming in any of my posts that Ceerious is incorrect or biased, I read them as harsh and incomplete/lacking and prodded that, and I tried to engage respectfully and in good faith. Sorry you didn't like it, but I also don't particular care.

[Venice]

The Metaphor:ReFantazio is almost entirely filled with positive, happy comments that are thrilled the game is scoring universally high ratings across every single gaming website. It's filled with delighted comments.

Along comes the most miserable, depressing human being in existence to drop a giant turd in the swimming pool and spoil the party.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/metaphor-refantazio-review-thread.1002525/page-16#post-129839622

I'm honestly amazed so few reviews seem to account for how ugly the game is. Like it's a shockingly unpleasant game to look at on a level I don't think Persona 5 was when it came out.

It boggles the mind to think a human being like PlanetSmasher exists.

He simply MUST post something extremely negative in every single gaming thread known to mankind. 

His sole purpose in life is simply to... piss on every parade. He can't stand for people to be happy at something succeeding.

This is stating the obvious, but I think PlanetSmasher is someone so desperately lonely in real life, and so in need of attention, any kind of attention, that he posts these worthless comments because he knows it will get a reaction from somebody, any random stranger, and it will give him some one-on-one conversation to get through his depressing day.

Sad man. Sad, sad, sad man.

[Propagandhim]

You can tell that entire forum has him on ignore too.  Nobody addressing his miserable shit and just talking past him.

[Orange Juice Box]

Also fatty is fat:

Kind of speechless to be honest. I'm not used to seeing this on Era.

Really? Because as a mod let me tell you...

But you know what, this mindset is bigger than Era. And before I say what I'm going to say I want to absolutely be clear that I'm in no way implying that Democrats don't deserve to be criticized and held accountable for their failures. They absolutely do.

That said, you can talk to a lot of people on the left --- from center-left to progressive far-left -- who spend the lion's share of their efforts attacking Democrats, and if you dig deep, no actually even if you just scratch a little bit, you find that what is motivating that for a lot of people is an absolute refusal to believe that Trump (and Republicans under him) are actually all that dangerous.

The jesterfication of Donald Trump is honestly the most dangerous thing about him. It's why I'll never find him funny, I will ALWAYS side-eye people who do, and I will always side-eye people who go to great lengths to attack Democrats but can barely muster a "Pfft! Of course we know he's bad!" when it comes to Trump. Because bull-fucking-shit you do.

Is this an attack on nepenthe?

[Uncle]

https://pearwaldorf.tumblr.com/post/697562019959799808/derinthescarletpescatarian

Watching the “you will excel at what you measure” trap devour basic moral practice in real time is fascinating in a terrible kind of way

If you spend any significant amount of time studying any social science or people-related policy, you’ll quickly run into the old adage “you will excel at what you measure”. This adage is a warning.

In order to mark progress in any area, we need a way to measure it. So we develop systems to measure complex social systems and behave accordingly. If you want to measure how effectively children are being educated, you can, for example, decide on what they should know by a given age, test them on that knowledge, and grade them in accordance to how well they do on the tests. A higher grade means a more successful student, a better teacher, a better school. Then you can tinker with what you’re testing as necessary, and with teaching methods and soforth to see how it affects scores on the tests.

Except, if you do this, then you’ve defined successful education as the ability to get high grades. You invite cheating (on the student, teacher and even school level), you invite teaching to the test rather than for general comprehension and ability, you invite boiling down the experience of education to test scores. And, of course, you invite massively increasing the inaccuracies caused by some people simply being better at taking tests than others. Someone with low to moderate comprehension who’s good at tests might get a higher grade than someone who understands the material but has anxiety or is unable to properly intuit the meaning of vague test questions. Grades can go up and up and up, while education consistency and quality falls.

This is, as anyone who’s worked in a school or sends their children to school knows, a known problem. ‘Grading systems cause huge problems in education” is NOT by any means a revolutionary and controversial statement. Over time, grading systems have been changed to favour testing comprehension and skill demonstrations, Individual Learning Plans and testing accommodations have become very popular to give a more accurate idea of people’s abilities, and soforth. A good half of my teaching degree was about compensating for the problems in this system. But you can’t patch up all the holes, and the pressure from people taking letter grades way too seriously – parents, school boards, funding systems, those looking to hire teachers – are always going to cause problems, make teaching to the test a matter of survival. We measure grades, so that is what we excel at.

The same problem exists in economics. Most countries measure their health via Gross Domestic Product (GDP). This is basically a measure of how much money is swilling around in there and it’s an AWFUL yardstick. A country full of sick, desperate people going into massive medical debt has a higher GDP than an identical country not facing a health crisis, for instance. But it is the dominant model, so it’s what investors look at, it’s what other countries look at, it’s what voters look at. It’s what you must excel at, to be considered to have a ‘good’ economy. Other models exist, and are often proposed as a better alternative, but if one of those were dominant, new problems would exist – we’d excel at what they measure, and drop in what the GDP measures, and cause new economic issues. If you boil a system down to measurements, you will excel at making those measurements go up.

You should never, ever let yourself fall into the trap of believing that they tell you anything useful about how the system is doing.

Morality and justice are social technology. They’re a bunch of rules and instincts that both evolution and cultural education have given us to allow us to operate in societies. They’re integral to societies in the same way that math is; you need math complex enough to measure the grain, you need morality complex enough to measure the social harmony. People pretend they’re more than that, but they aren’t. “Good” and “bad” are concepts as real as “millionaire” and “straight-A student”, and nothing more.

In the vast, vast majority of societies out there, the end goal is essentially the same – to minimise harm to the populace. They want everyone to have as much safety and comfort as possible. Most disagreements are about the relative value of different individuals (is one race, religion or culture more important than another? Is one sex more important than another? Is a king more important than a slave?), or about methodology (is it better for everyone to have to follow strict social norms, or for everyone to be free to express themselves how they choose; which creates more safety and harmony? What social norms are best? How much control should one have over one’s property, or one’s animals, or one’s children? When somebody transgresses, what is the appropriate system for judging and metering out discipline? What is the appropriate sort of discipline?). People disagree radically on both relative individual value and on methodology, but the general goal is the same. Morality and justice are social technology, tools to be used. Law and social consequence is how their power is enacted.

People often forget this. And that is very, very dangerous.

People will decide on what is ‘good’ and ‘bad’ behaviour, isolate it from the system, and proceed to excel at what they measure. They’ll decide that ‘good people’ use certain language and have certain values and ‘bad people’ use other language and do bad things, they’ll look at harmful power dynamics and decide that the world is full of ‘oppressors’ (can be ignored) and ‘oppressed’ (must be supported), ‘abusers’ (should be mocked and attacked) and ‘abused’ (should be believed and coddled), and stumble blindly forward like my robovac with a dirty sensor bumping into every wall in their way. They’ll see a complex social situation and instead of going ‘what’s the best way to reduce harm?’, immediately try to decide who involved is more oppressed and get their answer from that. They’ll see people use language they don’t like and decide that person must have nothing of value to add to a conversation, because they’re a bad person.

Today, I saw someone muse that the fact that American football causes huge amounts of brain damage that compounds over many years might contribute to why USA footballers seem to keep doing random unhinged things. Somebody else immediately attacked them because rape and domestic abuse is common among footballers (footballers being the attackers), so by suggesting a physical reason for unstable behaviour, this person was making excuses for rape. You might notice that this response has absolutely nothing to do with protecting people from rape or domestic abuse, and absolutely everything to do with making sure nobody might accidentally sympathise with a ‘bad person’ by suggesting that brain changes change behaviour. A focus on minimising harm would want to explore this, because removing risk factors for causing rapists means less rapists. Less rape is the goal. ‘Rape is evil’ is the tool used to achieve it. But this person got distracted by the tool of measurement, making sure that the buck stops there.

Yesterday, I saw a post about police violence, pointing out ‘police shouldn’t kill guilty people either’. This was a response to how people often protest police killing innocent people, which is definitely bad, but the point is that the police shouldn’t be killing anyone outside of strict self defense. The justice system is what meters out punishment, not the personal discretion of a state-sponsored gang with too many combat toys. The role of the police to to prevent violence and capture wrongdoers, not deal out extrajudicial executions. I’m sure I don’t have to explain in detail why this is so fucking important, but one set of tags on the posts made the distinction “except for pedophiles and rapists”. I have never seen anybody miss the point of a post so badly. Clearly, this person had once again gotten distracted by the system of measurement – pedophiles and rapists are evil people who do evil things, therefore they should be eliminated as expediently as possible – without considering the effect on the system. No, police randomly shooting rapists does not make a better society. If you support the death penalty for rape, that’s a whole arse different question.

These kneejerk reactions don’t just happen with pedophiles and rapists (although they are very effective for it, which is why dangerous and unsavoury elements like to call the groups they hate pedophiles). I’ve also seen people get upset at historical demonstrations of queer unity and support because the people in them called each other words they don’t like and get all distracted by minutae on who’s ‘allowed’ to ‘reclaim’ what words, preferring to condemn gay men calling lesbians ‘muffdivers’ despite the massive personal risk and great benefit of the demonstration. I’ve seen people quibble over what groups of disabled people experience more ableism than others, and which queer subcommunities are more oppressed, in order to determine who the good guy in a complex situation is or who deserves their support more. I’ve seen people slip all the minorities they belong to into an argument like they’re laying out the cards to summon Exodia (because most oppressed person is most deserving of support person and therefore most correct person), I’ve seen people distract from arguments they’re having in order to try to trap the other person into saying something that can be interpreted as sexist or racist so they can show that their opponent is the Bad Person (and therefore they’re the good person and therefore correct in the argument), I’ve seen people look at two people with conflicting needs (such as an autistic person who verbally stims and one who reacts badly to too much sound) and stop to decide which one is oppressing the other one to determine which one is being ableist.

This is all fucking bullshit. It’s meaningless nonsense. The only reason any of this matters is in how it relates to causing actual real world harm. I’d rather be called a person of gender bitch by someone who votes in support of my healthcare than the most polite and up-to-date language by someone who votes against it. I’d rather know about risk factors that make someone more likely to be an abuser or rapist than shy away from such things because I don’t want to risk thinking of them as anything other than an Unknowable Evil. I don’t fucking care what Problematic ™ views someone holds about a cartoon and I don’t care who’s the Most Pure or the Most Oppressed or who used to say slurs online when they were fifteen if they’re behaving appropriately now. None of that fucking matters, and it’s not justification for harassing or hurting people.

Your sense of justice and morality are social tools. Sharpen them, clean them, look after them. And use them to build with purpose, rather than blindly hacking at whatever’s in front of you. Or you’ll just make a mess.

perfect encapsulation of era

this is the game we all watch them play, they established the rules and then they all use whatever tactics are available to them in order to score more points - lie, cheat, gaslight, chastise, it's all in service to these metrics that have been established

[Nintex]

Remember what I told you about the future of Xbox?

Gay Halo and retard controllers?





Nintex was right

[DocWager]

“Hey, my Latinx folks!”

[JoeBoy101]

The Metaphor:ReFantazio is almost entirely filled with positive, happy comments that are thrilled the game is scoring universally high ratings across every single gaming website. It's filled with delighted comments.

Along comes the most miserable, depressing human being in existence to drop a giant turd in the swimming pool and spoil the party.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/metaphor-refantazio-review-thread.1002525/page-16#post-129839622

I'm honestly amazed so few reviews seem to account for how ugly the game is. Like it's a shockingly unpleasant game to look at on a level I don't think Persona 5 was when it came out.

It boggles the mind to think a human being like PlanetSmasher exists.

He simply MUST post something extremely negative in every single gaming thread known to mankind. 

His sole purpose in life is simply to... piss on every parade. He can't stand for people to be happy at something succeeding.

This is stating the obvious, but I think PlanetSmasher is someone so desperately lonely in real life, and so in need of attention, any kind of attention, that he posts these worthless comments because he knows it will get a reaction from somebody, any random stranger, and it will give him some one-on-one conversation to get through his depressing day.

Sad man. Sad, sad, sad man.

And utterly ignored. 



His shtick is getting old.

[Snoopy]

I’m the Chief of staff at Halo Studios.

I’m a problem solver.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-silent-hill-2-remake-wikipedia-page-locked-after-salty-fans-try-to-rewrite-its-critically-acclaimed-reception.1002072/page-6#post-129805926

As much as I'd like to assume it's that chud who kept sending us porn in tickets, I don't think he wants to lose his "highly-coveted" Wiki Editor title. It's the only thing he has in life.

We do a lil drunken doxxing.

Do it, you coward.

Sorry to get hopes up...I meant to imply that known alcoholic Hecht was veering close to doing so on his own. 

He's playing Guess Who? over there:
"I won't tell you the guy's name, BUT! He's permanently banned on Era...specifically due to his vociferous hatred of the SH2 remake...and he is an active Wikipedia Editor...and he highly values that privilege...."

What's next? does he wear glasses? Does he part his hair to the left or right? I've still got some of my cards up!

[Jansen]

I'm trying to understand what is wrong with accessibility controllers

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-silent-hill-2-remake-wikipedia-page-locked-after-salty-fans-try-to-rewrite-its-critically-acclaimed-reception.1002072/page-6#post-129805926
We do a lil drunken doxxing.

Do it, you coward.

Sorry to get hopes up...I meant to imply that known alcoholic Hecht was veering close to doing so on his own. 

He's playing Guess Who? over there:
"I won't tell you the guy's name, BUT! He's permanently banned on Era...specifically due to his vociferous hatred of the SH2 remake...and he is an active Wikipedia Editor...and he highly values that privilege...."

What's next? does he wear glasses? Does he part his hair to the left or right? I've still got some of my cards up!

It's the same name as I posted yesterday that's the handle he goes by on Wikipedia too

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Darkknight2149

[kaleidoscopium]

I'm trying to understand what is wrong with accessibility controllers

Too gay and woke, sorry I don’t write the rules we just follow them

[Nintex]

December 2021 - Halo Infinite released
January 2022 - Restructuring begins
January 2024 - Chris Matthews proposes "Project Foundry"

Project Foundry is not a game, it is a research project for our studio so we can prepare ourselves for the next steps of making HALO games.

October 2024 - Project Foundry revealed to recruit for the new games.

3 years and fucking nothing 

[Taco Bell Tower]

FF7 Rebirth? The game that has Cloud looking down Tifa's swimsuit top?
AstroBot? The game that genders poor astro as male, when they's clearly a genderless robot? 
We already know ReFantazio is gonna be a phobic mess of hate and genocide!

If any game is GOTY, it better be Concord!

Astro Bot possibly problematic going for when Elliot Page was Ellen. I'm sure the trans mafia could have issues with this:

They'll forgive Sony like they did with Jim Ryan when he compared Sony employees with dogs.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/metaphor-refantazio-review-thread.1002525/page-18#post-129842715



Jesus Christ

[Nintex]

I'm trying to understand what is wrong with accessibility controllers

Because most accessible games fucking suck. In order to make it accessible you have to dumb it down.
Xbox makes dull games for retards that hit 58 Metacritic scores. 

Hell, they can't even pump out a yearly Forza anymore. The one they released instantly crashed and burned.

All they can produce are these PR videos to announce something is woke.
The runtime of the Hellblade 2 development diaries is longer than the entire game. 

Nothing ever ships and if it does it fucking sucks.

[EaldNarche]

The thread on Al Pachino's near death experience is so grim. Most of resetera seems to be longing for oblivion. :v

[DavidCroquet]

Do it, you coward.

Sorry to get hopes up...I meant to imply that known alcoholic Hecht was veering close to doing so on his own. 

He's playing Guess Who? over there:
"I won't tell you the guy's name, BUT! He's permanently banned on Era...specifically due to his vociferous hatred of the SH2 remake...and he is an active Wikipedia Editor...and he highly values that privilege...."

What's next? does he wear glasses? Does he part his hair to the left or right? I've still got some of my cards up!

It's the same name as I posted yesterday that's the handle he goes by on Wikipedia too

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Darkknight2149

The Jansen provides.