Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[books]

I'm about 30 pages back. Man these people suck ass.

[HaughtyFrank]

We've reached full Team bloober redemption

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-i-played-the-medium-and-its-not-at-all-the-harmful-evil-game-that-been-made-out-to-be-online-its-narratively-interesting-to-explore.1003311/

[Propagandhim]

It's NOT okay and even problematic and harmful that I don't have an update on NoodleSoup's case.

[Uncle]

Going to be walking on eggshells here slightly but I think this is an issue worth bringing up. It's something that has bothered me multiple times and I know it's something other people have brought up in the past as well.

I think mods need to be better at communicating the reasons for a ban, especially when the banned person in question is asking for it to be explained to them. I want to note that I think there's a big difference between "why was i banned plz unban" and "Could you explain what you meant by this? I don't really understand what I did wrong here." but both are treated exactly the same and given the same dismissive non-responses.

So I do kind of have to talk about my experience to talk about this but I need to make my intentions in doing so clear.
I am not relitigating the one week ban I just had. I accept that ban, I am not trying to argue against the ban itself. I know that is against the rules of this thread and from my perspective I am not breaking those rules because what I want to talk about is specifically the issue regarding the responses given through the Ticket system. To emphasize this point, I am not including any details about the ban in question, and thus will not post what my ticket was in full (because it did have me explaining my perspective on the situation), but I will quote something I said in it that should hopefully make clear to anyone reading this post what the intention of the ticket was.

First of all, it wasn't sent under the "Ban Appeal" option, because I was not trying to appeal the ban, it was sent under the "Moderation Inquiry" option.
And here's some of what I said in it:
"I want to try and understand where this ban is coming from. I recognize it's only week and I'm not trying to argue or start any trouble, I am just legitimately baffled. In what way was I concern trolling?" "what could I have done in this situation"

Now, to make sure I'm not misrepresenting things, the full ticket was three paragraphs, but for the sake of not getting into specifics of the ban, I present the above as my example that I was, from my perspective rather clearly, trying to get further clarification and understanding about why I was banned because I truly honestly did not understand it. I was not trying to appeal the ban. I wrote this Ticket fully ready to accept whatever further explanation I got.

This is the response, four days later:


I was really confused by this. I didn't say anything about the ban being on my record. I was asking for more information.
I thought about sending another ticket but I knew from past experience it would just be Rejected. So I sat on this for the remainder of my ban and went back and forth on if it would be worth making a post in this thread. Ultimately I decided it was, not for me specifically, I'm no longer asking about this particular ban, I am bringing this up because I think it's a symptom of a larger problem.

First of all, let's all admit that it really comes across like whoever responded didn't really read what my ticket said. They probably skimmed it, saw me talking about the ban, and then just wrote that it was staying on the assumption I was trying to appeal the ban (even thought it wasn't in that category...). But also the wording here is just so detached, so dismissive. The only reason I don't think this is an automated response is because it took four days to get. If I'm wrong about this and my Ticket was read in full, then the read was painted with an assumption and ignored both what I was saying within it and what category it was sent under.

So here's what I started thinking about during the rest of my ban.
What is the point of a short ban on ResetEra?

Like, the point of a Permanent Ban is obvious, the staff have decided that you are no longer welcome on this forum. Pretty clear cut there. So what about the short ones? No other forum I have been on does them. But they're a slap on the wrist, right? A "go sit in the corner and think about what you did". Okay, I've made peace with that. It still feels pretty bad when it happens but that's how Era rolls. Well, how can someone think about what they did if they don't understand it? Surely the point of a ban like this requires the banned user to be able to reflect. I honestly wonder what percentage of bans have happened where the person never really understood why they were banned and just let it go.

Part of the problem is also the vibe that the mods always assume the absolute worst intentions possible from every user. Like, people complain about this all the time too. And from my perspective you can see it in the dismissive response I got. But I also imagine that a lot of mods will scoff at the idea that we deserve further explanations at all, they might think that everyone is just looking to argue and undermine them or whatever. But I really don't think that's the case and I think the culture here would be a lot healthier if there were better channels of communication between these two "sides".

So here's where my thoughts are at. The short single sentence ban messages aren't really enough. I think people deserve a little bit more about why they've been banned. I'm not saying every single one week ban needs to be sent a personal five paragraph essay on what they did wrong or anything. But a little more information is probably due and if people actively ask for a better explanation, that should be provided to them. Even if every other person in the thread understands why they were banned, if the banned person themselves doesn't then the ban doesn't really have any purpose beyond people who didn't like their post feeling satisfied they got someone in trouble with the teachers. And maybe the people seeking further information won't accept the answer given but I think there at least needs to be a way to get that answer. I think the Ticket system should be a reliable method that people feel comfortable and safe to use. It shouldn't feel like poking a sleeping bear, provided the Ticket isn't obviously abusive towards the staff reading it.

I really hope my intention has come across here. I hope this doesn't just sound like me whining about my ban because that's really not what I'm trying to do here. And while I do think the response to my ticket was kind of insulting, I'm not even complaining about that. I just think that communication between mods and users has always been at the root of most of the issues raised in this thread and I think this is one department where there needs to be some improvement. Whenever there's a big blowup here about someone being banned the mods say the banned person can send a ticket if they want to talk about it. Well that's clearly not true. This has happened to me multiple times and I know I've seen others complain about it too. There is no avenue of discussion within the ticket system. You are dismissed and the ticket closed without response. There has to be a better way.

Well, whatever happens, I thank anyone who took the time to read this post. I've been thinking about it a lot the past few days.

Known mod cock gobbler melts down when hit with the hammer themselves. Many such cases

tone sounds an awful lot like a certain other tone  

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mark-kelly-says-foreign-countries-russia-china-iran-attempting-to-influence-our-election-with-social-media-content-amounting-%E2%80%9C20-to-30-range%E2%80%9D.1003281/#post-129867846

Folks need to start including AIPAC on these lists. Insane to me how normalized it is as an entity.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-konami-back.1003317/

Hello Fellow ERA users is it time to give Konami its flowers? they have had some solid releases like Silent hill 2 remake and MGS 3 remake is shaping up to look like a banger.

Silent Hill 2 remake - Open Critic : 88
Castlevania Advance Collection - Open Critic : 83
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Cowabunga Collection : Open Critic : 81
Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Open Critic: 73
Contra: Operation Galuga : Opencritic 72

Konami didn't work on SH2 remake tho 
Konami is back because collections?

[Chumbawumbafan69]

Say what you will about moderation over there but there's something almost admirable about how little respect they have for their own users that they would reply with this ChatGPT ass response.

[Propagandhim]

I dont understand the point of more transparency.  The bans are arbitrary and made up based on the mods' emotional state or irrational double-standard beliefs.  They don't follow from any real standards that any reasonable person would subscribe to.  Does anyone really need the mods to be more transparent about bans like saying *some* adherents of Islam are as conservative as evangelicals?  I need a mod to elaborate on that with their own stupid rationale?      No normal person would ever accept a ban that irrational so who cares about the transparency.  Nepenthe is very transparent about her stupid beliefs, even if she can't articulate them well and they don't make sense in the real world, she'll happily lecture you about why she knows the theory.  Being transparent is completely useless and not at all the real issue over there.

Now, whether or not NoodleSoup is clanking a cup against prison bars and singing spirituals in his prison cell at the moment because his case went poorly -  that's the kind of transparency I need right now!

[PogiJones]

Still no ban. What I find interesting is that no one in the thread even speaks up. How can you claim that you're totally not antisemitic but then happily post alongside a guy who spreads misinformation like this

We happily post alongside Nintex 

[benji]

Does anyone really need the mods to be more transparent about bans like saying *some* adherents of Islam are as conservative as evangelicals?  I need a mod to elaborate on that with their own stupid rationale?

I mean, I would love them to elaborate on how it's a "generalization" since I know what stupid thing they meant with the "racist" part.

[Uncle]

I'm about 30 pages back. Man these people suck ass.

he'd rather have

a buffalo

take a diarrhea dump in his ear

[kaleidoscopium]

Can’t recall if Noodlesoups cases updated at midnight before, if so got a couple hours. No postings makes me think it’s just another delay until their federal case is sorted out

[AnnoyedCanadian]

I still find this funny. Even Olivia who works on the show was laughing

The good stuff starts around 2 minutes in



Yeah, it's fucked up but I have a dark sense of humor at times. I think Ethan's firmly on RetardEra's shitlist for this. It's like, you guys found Borat funny before but now are offended by it. Lighten the fuck up.

[benji]

HAPPENING??? CHUDS MIGHT STILL BE DEFEATED???

https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-the-acolyte

Hi all,

Our team has seen some unfortunate discourse online disparaging our fundraiser for the campaign to #RenewTheAcolyte and our intentions, so we wanted to take the time to dispel misconceptions about this fundraiser and outline how your funds are being used to help the campaign to renew the series.

BACKGROUND:
This fundraiser has been organized by a group of passionate fans who are dedicated to saving The Acolyte and urging Disney and Lucasfilm to give the series a much-deserved 2nd season. Inspired by incredible fandom efforts to save their beloved shows, such as Our Flag Means Death, Shadow and Bone, and The OA (among many more), we decided as a team to launch more public efforts to support our campaign, first by purchasing digital billboard space in Times Square to expand our reach outside of online spaces.

THE ACTIONS:
As mentioned in the campaign’s description, ALL donations go toward buying a digital billboard in Times Square (we’re utilizing TimesSquareBillboard.com). Our team is doing a one-day digital billboard ad later this month (which we’re super excited to share with you when it goes up!), an 11-day digital billboard ad in November, and a 4-day digital billboard ad in December. The $2,200 total listed in this fundraiser’s description reflects the following pricing:

- $1,200 promo deal from TimesSquareBillboard.com for 12 booking coupons (we’ll be doing a 1-day digital billboard ad in October, and an 11-day digital billboard ad in November)
- $1,000 for 4 days of an ad at their $250/day rate (December)
- All the ads will appear on screen for 15 seconds, 1 time per hour, for 24 hours; TimesSquareBillboard.com ensures 22 plays per day.

THE END GOAL:
Our objective with our campaign at large is not only to amplify our love for the show, but it’s also to reach more people and encourage them to stream The Acolyte, while also putting pressure on Disney/Lucasfilm to renew the series.

All of us on the team have donated our own funds toward the cause because we are deeply passionate about the series and what it represents, but as many know, public efforts like this add up, and that’s why we’ve turned to fellow fans of the show to help us fund these efforts to fight for The Acolyte. Donating to this fundraiser is completely your choice.

If you have doubts about the use of these funds, please refer to the receipts and pricing information on the attached photo.

With lots of love,
- The #RenewTheAcolyte team

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/florida-is-on-alert-as-a-new-tropical-depression-forms-in-the-gulf-just-days-after-hurricane-helene-up-upgraded-to-category-5-hurricane-milton.1001661/page-14#post-129870213

This feels like city planning I'd do in Sim City before my town is wiped from the face of the earth by a disaster. Christ.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

Compare everything in real life to a video game. What?

I legit hope that not a lot of lives are lost due to the hurricane and the aftermath. Shit seems pretty fucking scary looking at the current information.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/florida-is-on-alert-as-a-new-tropical-depression-forms-in-the-gulf-just-days-after-hurricane-helene-up-upgraded-to-category-5-hurricane-milton.1001661/page-14#post-129870213

This feels like city planning I'd do in Sim City before my town is wiped from the face of the earth by a disaster. Christ.

dude oh my god dude, you know what this whole florida situation reminds me of??

[AnnoyedCanadian]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/florida-is-on-alert-as-a-new-tropical-depression-forms-in-the-gulf-just-days-after-hurricane-helene-up-upgraded-to-category-5-hurricane-milton.1001661/page-14#post-129870213

This feels like city planning I'd do in Sim City before my town is wiped from the face of the earth by a disaster. Christ.

dude oh my god dude, you know what this whole florida situation reminds me of??

[remy]

i feel like you could drastically improve reset by banning like 10, maybe 20 members total. the problem is those 10-20 are 1.) the most prolific posters and b.) the people the mods will never touch.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/women-claim-they-were-removed-from-spirit-airlines-flight-due-to-wearing-crop-tops.1003356/#post-129870750

being a woman is so fucking exhausting

[Uncle]

it would be so much easier if we just forced them to wear burkas, they wouldn't have to worry about making any hard decisions, or makeup, or the male gaze, or getting removed from flights

[benji]

it would be so much easier if we just forced them to wear burkas, they wouldn't have to worry about making any hard decisions, or makeup, or the male gaze, or getting removed from flights

Would also free them from the constant judging of evangelicals.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

i feel like you could drastically improve reset by banning like 10, maybe 20 members total. the problem is those 10-20 are 1.) the most prolific posts and b.) the people the mods will never touch.

I don't know how online ad revenue works in this case, but is there some limit to how much can be made from those same people constantly posting and refreshing/loading threads? Like they see the same IP address and just ignore it for monetization purposes?

[remy]

i feel like you could drastically improve reset by banning like 10, maybe 20 members total. the problem is those 10-20 are 1.) the most prolific posts and b.) the people the mods will never touch.

I don't know how online ad revenue works in this case, but is there some limit to how much can be made from those same people constantly posting and refreshing/loading threads? Like they see the same IP address and just ignore it for monetization purposes?

I really doubt anyone involved in running the site, especially rank and file moderators understands or cares about that kind of thing.

They think they're guerilla revolutionaries running a "project"

[Alpacx]

So B-Dumbs Has Posted since that Chief Malik Electronic Intifada post that is still there.
 

I guess some disinformation is more equal than others.

[benji]

Literally impossible to go on YouTube and not get Nazi shit thrown in your face:

[Daffy Duck]

Word vomit from dice 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dice-analyzes-the-chemical-brothers-out-of-control-1999-and-products-for-protests.1003362/

[AnnoyedCanadian]

Word vomit from dice 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dice-analyzes-the-chemical-brothers-out-of-control-1999-and-products-for-protests.1003362/

Some of the posts on there literally look like stuff you'd find in a manifesto after someone has committed a mass shooting.

Dice is fucking insane and she's one of the only actual women on that forum.

[Nintex]

Compare everything in real life to a video game. What?

I legit hope that not a lot of lives are lost due to the hurricane and the aftermath. Shit seems pretty fucking scary looking at the current information.

The October surprise certainly is a plot twister this time

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-icj-orders-halt-to-israeli-offensive-on-rafah-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-408#post-129858462

How Israel killed hundreds of its own people on 7 October

Edit:
https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-israel-killed-hundreds-its-own-people-7-october/49216

One year ago today Palestinian fighters led by Hamas launched an unprecedented military offensive out of the Gaza Strip.

The immediate goal was to inflict a shattering blow against Israel’s army bases and militarized settlements which have besieged Gaza’s inhabitants for decades – all of which are built on land that Palestinian families were expelled from in 1948.

The bigger goal was to shatter a status quo in which Israel, the United States and their accomplices believed they had effectively sidelined the Palestinian cause, and to bring that struggle for liberation back to the forefront of world attention.

“Operation Al-Aqsa Flood,” as Hamas called it, was, by any objective military measure, a stunning success.

Is that literal victim blaming?