Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disgraced-lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-in-life-threatening-condition-after-prison-stabbing.750175/

I have no problems with this thread.

[benji]

I don't understand what 'the play' is in just straight up denying reality - its like locking up that thread that visibly showed San Fran is kinda fucked right now with a NUH UH, DOGWHISTLES.

It was a fucking riot, what possible political gain do you get pretending otherwise? Is it like, a litmus test for gullible dipshits? Are they who you really want backing 'your team'?

Do you think there's a memo that goes out or do they all just come to the same conclusions on their own because of the parochial worldviews?



Or maybe they only believe what they'd like to be true. Maybe if you're skeptical that means it won't come true?

edit: The reason I ask is because I'd like to get the memo.

[jooseloose]

Also anyone spelling his name as "Hassan" is a big red flag

Literally an easy mistake to make. What is it with these cunts? Jesus Christ.

[Taco Bell Tower]

So I’m plying Far Cry 6 and just got to the part where you meet a trans character who is quite a large part of the story, why have I not heard about how wonderful this is from ResetEra?

There’s nothing on there about him

They don't play video games. Well, a few do play.

[HaughtyFrank]

I don't understand what 'the play' is in just straight up denying reality - its like locking up that thread that visibly showed San Fran is kinda fucked right now with a NUH UH, DOGWHISTLES.

It was a fucking riot, what possible political gain do you get pretending otherwise? Is it like, a litmus test for gullible dipshits? Are they who you really want backing 'your team'?

Do you think there's a memo that goes out or do they all just come to the same conclusions on their own because of the parochial worldviews?

Or maybe they only believe what they'd like to be true. Maybe if you're skeptical that means it won't come true?

edit: The reason I ask is because I'd like to get the memo.

They all know that the skin color of the teens involved is a bad look so they pretend it's actually not anything bad. You'd have the reverse play of this if it was a bunch of maga teens rioting after Trump promised free PS5s

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/square-enix-fy2024-q1-results-game-sales-up-but-profits-down.749737/page-3#post-109964437

User Banned (5 days): Platform warring; history of similar infractions

These numbers would look a lot different if they embraced multiplatform development like a normal third party publisher

Dude tells the truth, wth

[Nintex]

Square Enix prioritized the least profitable part of their business, mid games with AAA budgets: Forspoken, Babylons Fall and whatnot.

They should've doubled down on more high-profile Nintendo Switch games instead.

[BIONIC]

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I don't understand what 'the play' is in just straight up denying reality - its like locking up that thread that visibly showed San Fran is kinda fucked right now with a NUH UH, DOGWHISTLES.

It was a fucking riot, what possible political gain do you get pretending otherwise? Is it like, a litmus test for gullible dipshits? Are they who you really want backing 'your team'?

Do you think there's a memo that goes out or do they all just come to the same conclusions on their own because of the parochial worldviews?

Or maybe they only believe what they'd like to be true. Maybe if you're skeptical that means it won't come true?

edit: The reason I ask is because I'd like to get the memo.

They all know that the skin color of the teens involved is a bad look so they pretend it's actually not anything bad. You'd have the reverse play of this if it was a bunch of maga teens rioting after Trump promised free PS5s

Remember when a teenager was made out to have committed literal indigenous genocide just because he smirked in a Native American’s face?

Now we have motherfuckers literally destroying cars and getting into fights but it’s only them engaging in a little bit of chaos unruliness.

Nothing makes sense

[Snoopy]

If you can’t riot when you’re a teenager then what’s the point of being a teenager

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nascar-suspends-noah-gragson-for-liking-meme-mocking-george-floyd.750250/

https://frontstretch.com/2023/08/05/dropping-the-hammer-noah-gragsons-big-mistake/

[Boredfrom]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/square-enix-fy2024-q1-results-game-sales-up-but-profits-down.749737/page-3#post-109964437

User Banned (5 days): Platform warring; history of similar infractions

These numbers would look a lot different if they embraced multiplatform development like a normal third party publisher

Dude tells the truth, wth

I mean, Capcom still got a moneyhat for Monster Hunter Rise even when Monster Hunter World finally made the IP mainstream in the west and sold like hot cakes. I think Square just doesn’t have good business leadership (while their catalog seems to be improving, while still not ideal).

[Boredfrom]

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Do you think there's a memo that goes out or do they all just come to the same conclusions on their own because of the parochial worldviews?

Or maybe they only believe what they'd like to be true. Maybe if you're skeptical that means it won't come true?

edit: The reason I ask is because I'd like to get the memo.

They all know that the skin color of the teens involved is a bad look so they pretend it's actually not anything bad. You'd have the reverse play of this if it was a bunch of maga teens rioting after Trump promised free PS5s

Remember when a teenager was made out to have committed literal indigenous genocide just because he smirked in a Native American’s face?

Now we have motherfuckers literally destroying cars and getting into fights but it’s only them engaging in a little bit of chaos unruliness.

Nothing makes sense

Then again, Jan. 6. 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nascar-suspends-noah-gragson-for-liking-meme-mocking-george-floyd.750250/

https://frontstretch.com/2023/08/05/dropping-the-hammer-noah-gragsons-big-mistake/

A sea of chuds on Social Media are defending him and his "free speech" rights even though he has already admitted to being wrong. They are making him another martyr like they did with Larson.

This is weird, when people do this Ree never forgives and forgets.

[Polident]

Oh, so these kids rioting for a PS5 is bad, but these instances were fine?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/america-is-an-unforgiving-country-mistakes-of-any-kind-financial-educational-criminal-etc-are-never-forgiven.750220/

As I'm taking care of stuff for my apartment, I just had a little bit of a shower thought, if you will. There are so many systems in this country set up punish mistakes of any kind really harshly, to the point to where certain mistakes can set your life back significantly.

Take the criminal justice system. As we all know, every layer of criminal justice in America is set to institutionalize entire demographics of people. From base level cops, to the highest court in the land, everything operates on the expectation of "once a criminal, always a criminal" and refuses to change a system that does nothing more than reinforce itself through recidivism. At the state level, you're basically at the mercy of whatever jurisdiction you live in as you whether or not a felon has a chance to re-enter society successfully. Most states - especially the hard red ones - will remove basic rights from ex-felons who have served their time & paid whatever restitutions they were ordered to. And with most, if not all of these states requiring that felony history always follows the ex-felon, a lot of people who get caught up in the criminal justice system face a significantly difficult time trying to rebuild their lives in a way that keeps them from reoffending. Because if you live in a state in which employers can actively block you forever from employment, if they so choose, how will you be able to survive outside of hoping to utilize the occasional goodwill of others or falling back into criminality?

Then there's the credit system. The older I get, the more I realize our credit system is just good ol American discrimination that hides behind arbitrary numbers. I say discrimination because there's evidence that minorities are negatively affected by the credit system as it pertains to the availability of credit. But in the event you are allowed credit of some sort... God fucking help you, if you make a mistake.

It doesn't matter the actual circumstances of why people default on whatever credit they have. An unseen medical expense? Sudden loss of employment? An entire public health emergency? Doesn't matter. If you're behind for long enough to have whatever you've been loaned repossessed or have your wages garnished, you're absolutely fucked for the next several years. Doesn't matter if you regain that stability; you essentially are left with the prospect of bankruptcy just to stop the bleeding or having to save up unreasonable amounts of money to be trusted with credit again, if you want to buy a house or car. And to make matters worse, the SCOTUS ruling on college loan debt forgiveness basically send a message that our federal government isn't allowed to relieve regular Americans from the burden of debt... even if it's debt taken on in the name of better career & life prospects. Of course, that same restriction doesn't apply if, say, major corporations need a financial bailout from their failures borne of catastrophic-level negligence at best, active criminality at worse.

I guess America just enjoys being a country that embraces aggressively punishing those who find themselves at the bottom of society in one way or another.

Anyways... I'm just frustrated. Could be a grass greener kinda thing, but I just can't help but feel other first-world countries don't function this way. Maybe some of y'all who live outside of America could provide some perspective?

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-the-f___-is-bamco-harada-thinking.750262/#post-110026396

Putting Tyson in Tekken 8 would have sent me into a nuclear hype meltdown.

Mike Tyson is a rapist.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-the-f___-is-bamco-harada-thinking.750262/#post-110026396

Putting Tyson in Tekken 8 would have sent me into a nuclear hype meltdown.

Mike Tyson is a rapist.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-trans-experience-at-zenimax-bethesda-past-employee-talks-about-how-she-was-treated.740793/page-5#post-110030203

I'm not specifically trying to harsh anyone's buzz for Starfield here. I get it. I've been looking forward to the game for a decade. But with the release about a month out, I just wanted to make sure people aren't forgetting about this.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/america-is-an-unforgiving-country-mistakes-of-any-kind-financial-educational-criminal-etc-are-never-forgiven.750220/

As I'm taking care of stuff for my apartment, I just had a little bit of a shower thought, if you will. There are so many systems in this country set up punish mistakes of any kind really harshly, to the point to where certain mistakes can set your life back significantly.

Take the criminal justice system. As we all know, every layer of criminal justice in America is set to institutionalize entire demographics of people. From base level cops, to the highest court in the land, everything operates on the expectation of "once a criminal, always a criminal" and refuses to change a system that does nothing more than reinforce itself through recidivism. At the state level, you're basically at the mercy of whatever jurisdiction you live in as you whether or not a felon has a chance to re-enter society successfully. Most states - especially the hard red ones - will remove basic rights from ex-felons who have served their time & paid whatever restitutions they were ordered to. And with most, if not all of these states requiring that felony history always follows the ex-felon, a lot of people who get caught up in the criminal justice system face a significantly difficult time trying to rebuild their lives in a way that keeps them from reoffending. Because if you live in a state in which employers can actively block you forever from employment, if they so choose, how will you be able to survive outside of hoping to utilize the occasional goodwill of others or falling back into criminality?

Then there's the credit system. The older I get, the more I realize our credit system is just good ol American discrimination that hides behind arbitrary numbers. I say discrimination because there's evidence that minorities are negatively affected by the credit system as it pertains to the availability of credit. But in the event you are allowed credit of some sort... God fucking help you, if you make a mistake.

It doesn't matter the actual circumstances of why people default on whatever credit they have. An unseen medical expense? Sudden loss of employment? An entire public health emergency? Doesn't matter. If you're behind for long enough to have whatever you've been loaned repossessed or have your wages garnished, you're absolutely fucked for the next several years. Doesn't matter if you regain that stability; you essentially are left with the prospect of bankruptcy just to stop the bleeding or having to save up unreasonable amounts of money to be trusted with credit again, if you want to buy a house or car. And to make matters worse, the SCOTUS ruling on college loan debt forgiveness basically send a message that our federal government isn't allowed to relieve regular Americans from the burden of debt... even if it's debt taken on in the name of better career & life prospects. Of course, that same restriction doesn't apply if, say, major corporations need a financial bailout from their failures borne of catastrophic-level negligence at best, active criminality at worse.

I guess America just enjoys being a country that embraces aggressively punishing those who find themselves at the bottom of society in one way or another.

Anyways... I'm just frustrated. Could be a grass greener kinda thing, but I just can't help but feel other first-world countries don't function this way. Maybe some of y'all who live outside of America could provide some perspective?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-the-f___-is-bamco-harada-thinking.750262/#post-110026396

Putting Tyson in Tekken 8 would have sent me into a nuclear hype meltdown.

Mike Tyson is a rapist.

 

[Boredfrom]

>But he is rich so he doesn’t count. 

>What about rappers with criminal pasts (and I enjoy Rap music)

>they are rich and talented and contribute to the community (sometimes, except when they are in gangs).

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/america-is-an-unforgiving-country-mistakes-of-any-kind-financial-educational-criminal-etc-are-never-forgiven.750220/

As I'm taking care of stuff for my apartment, I just had a little bit of a shower thought, if you will. There are so many systems in this country set up punish mistakes of any kind really harshly, to the point to where certain mistakes can set your life back significantly.

Take the criminal justice system. As we all know, every layer of criminal justice in America is set to institutionalize entire demographics of people. From base level cops, to the highest court in the land, everything operates on the expectation of "once a criminal, always a criminal" and refuses to change a system that does nothing more than reinforce itself through recidivism. At the state level, you're basically at the mercy of whatever jurisdiction you live in as you whether or not a felon has a chance to re-enter society successfully. Most states - especially the hard red ones - will remove basic rights from ex-felons who have served their time & paid whatever restitutions they were ordered to. And with most, if not all of these states requiring that felony history always follows the ex-felon, a lot of people who get caught up in the criminal justice system face a significantly difficult time trying to rebuild their lives in a way that keeps them from reoffending. Because if you live in a state in which employers can actively block you forever from employment, if they so choose, how will you be able to survive outside of hoping to utilize the occasional goodwill of others or falling back into criminality?

Then there's the credit system. The older I get, the more I realize our credit system is just good ol American discrimination that hides behind arbitrary numbers. I say discrimination because there's evidence that minorities are negatively affected by the credit system as it pertains to the availability of credit. But in the event you are allowed credit of some sort... God fucking help you, if you make a mistake.

It doesn't matter the actual circumstances of why people default on whatever credit they have. An unseen medical expense? Sudden loss of employment? An entire public health emergency? Doesn't matter. If you're behind for long enough to have whatever you've been loaned repossessed or have your wages garnished, you're absolutely fucked for the next several years. Doesn't matter if you regain that stability; you essentially are left with the prospect of bankruptcy just to stop the bleeding or having to save up unreasonable amounts of money to be trusted with credit again, if you want to buy a house or car. And to make matters worse, the SCOTUS ruling on college loan debt forgiveness basically send a message that our federal government isn't allowed to relieve regular Americans from the burden of debt... even if it's debt taken on in the name of better career & life prospects. Of course, that same restriction doesn't apply if, say, major corporations need a financial bailout from their failures borne of catastrophic-level negligence at best, active criminality at worse.

I guess America just enjoys being a country that embraces aggressively punishing those who find themselves at the bottom of society in one way or another.

Anyways... I'm just frustrated. Could be a grass greener kinda thing, but I just can't help but feel other first-world countries don't function this way. Maybe some of y'all who live outside of America could provide some perspective?

I like how he thinks this is all unique to America, like they always do.

The main unique thing in this entire rant is America's beloved industrialized criminal complex that exists purely because of people like ResetERA.com as they show every single day when they want people buried under the jail without trial for meaningless infractions and mass invasive police states combined with enforced social shaming. Combined with a lawless administrative state (more on that in a moment) staffed full of ResetERA.com types who believe they're in an existential struggle with Bad Guys for the fate of humanity in which any gap is a "loophole" towards societal collapse and it's no wonder: https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229

The entire rant against credit just shows that he doesn't understand the entire concept of credit because how else is it supposed to work? You got a loan, you fucked up, score go down so other people know you fucked up. You declare bankruptcy and you clear out but drop massively. You have to build this back up by showing you're able to handle your debts rather than constantly welsh (problematic, rephrase) on them. What do you want as the replacement system? Where nobody can know your history? Guess who's not getting credit anymore. You want to force them to give despite not being able to see your history? Guess what industry no longer allows individuals to participate. You want to obfuscate this crap through the government so nobody has any information on anything? Welcome to the 2008 financial meltdown again.

On a related note, the screed against bailouts is misplaced for two reasons, one, the claim is that it's insurance and two, that those institutions are so important the fallout will be worse. These are wrong, obviously, and the answer is to stop bailouts, not completely eliminate the credit system and keep everyone impoverished forever just so idiots can feel better. In fact you know what the best argument against bailouts is? MORAL HAZARD, you bail them out they're going to expect to be bailed out so they'll act as if they will be bailed out. You claim to hate this but you want it instituted for everyone.

Which brings me to this specific complaint:

And to make matters worse, the SCOTUS ruling on college loan debt forgiveness basically send a message that our federal government isn't allowed to relieve regular Americans from the burden of debt... even if it's debt taken on in the name of better career & life prospects.

No, it's a ruling that the President cannot waive debts accrued by the federal government by personal fiat. You're yet again so pissed off at the obvious consequences of your own groups type of demands (taxpayer provided college loans to the middle-upper classes out of delusion about education) that you want to abolish the rule of law and destroy the entire financial institution of the nation to try and avoid the consequence. You want to deliberately and irrevocably (for our lifetimes) harm every taxpayer because you conceive of the government as some kind of god that operates outside the bounds of the constricting laws of the universe. You want to sweep aside law, credit, debt, and who knows what else damaging us all for who knows how long in devastating ways so a majority of fools and a minority of people in bad luck situations can temporarily feel relief that will be meaningless in the wake of what follows the mass forced discarding of debts by the state. This is your entire "progressive" MO and it's why you constantly demand a lawless state that abuses everyone then bitch when the state does exactly what you want but NOT LIKE THAT and NOT AGAINST ME.

Calm down. Read a (non-"young adult") book. Lubricate your gun with gobs of liberal precum.

[Boredfrom]

They demand background checks but are offended that people see their credit history

[benji]

"We should identify specific targeted fixes to multi-millennia old institutions with our increasing capabilities in mind not seek to crash the plane with no survivors abolish them with no replacement just because we're very upset at the moment about something."
"I'm not an expert, I shouldn't have to know anything about these things or figure out what should be done that might work."

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

"I accept the retraction of your complaint."

[Besticus Maximus]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/america-is-an-unforgiving-country-mistakes-of-any-kind-financial-educational-criminal-etc-are-never-forgiven.750220/

As I'm taking care of stuff for my apartment, I just had a little bit of a shower thought, if you will. There are so many systems in this country set up punish mistakes of any kind really harshly, to the point to where certain mistakes can set your life back significantly.

Take the criminal justice system. As we all know, every layer of criminal justice in America is set to institutionalize entire demographics of people. From base level cops, to the highest court in the land, everything operates on the expectation of "once a criminal, always a criminal" and refuses to change a system that does nothing more than reinforce itself through recidivism. At the state level, you're basically at the mercy of whatever jurisdiction you live in as you whether or not a felon has a chance to re-enter society successfully. Most states - especially the hard red ones - will remove basic rights from ex-felons who have served their time & paid whatever restitutions they were ordered to. And with most, if not all of these states requiring that felony history always follows the ex-felon, a lot of people who get caught up in the criminal justice system face a significantly difficult time trying to rebuild their lives in a way that keeps them from reoffending. Because if you live in a state in which employers can actively block you forever from employment, if they so choose, how will you be able to survive outside of hoping to utilize the occasional goodwill of others or falling back into criminality?

Then there's the credit system. The older I get, the more I realize our credit system is just good ol American discrimination that hides behind arbitrary numbers. I say discrimination because there's evidence that minorities are negatively affected by the credit system as it pertains to the availability of credit. But in the event you are allowed credit of some sort... God fucking help you, if you make a mistake.

It doesn't matter the actual circumstances of why people default on whatever credit they have. An unseen medical expense? Sudden loss of employment? An entire public health emergency? Doesn't matter. If you're behind for long enough to have whatever you've been loaned repossessed or have your wages garnished, you're absolutely fucked for the next several years. Doesn't matter if you regain that stability; you essentially are left with the prospect of bankruptcy just to stop the bleeding or having to save up unreasonable amounts of money to be trusted with credit again, if you want to buy a house or car. And to make matters worse, the SCOTUS ruling on college loan debt forgiveness basically send a message that our federal government isn't allowed to relieve regular Americans from the burden of debt... even if it's debt taken on in the name of better career & life prospects. Of course, that same restriction doesn't apply if, say, major corporations need a financial bailout from their failures borne of catastrophic-level negligence at best, active criminality at worse.

I guess America just enjoys being a country that embraces aggressively punishing those who find themselves at the bottom of society in one way or another.

Anyways... I'm just frustrated. Could be a grass greener kinda thing, but I just can't help but feel other first-world countries don't function this way. Maybe some of y'all who live outside of America could provide some perspective?

I like how he thinks this is all unique to America, like they always do.

The main unique thing in this entire rant is America's beloved industrialized criminal complex that exists purely because of people like ResetERA.com as they show every single day when they want people buried under the jail without trial for meaningless infractions and mass invasive police states combined with enforced social shaming. Combined with a lawless administrative state (more on that in a moment) staffed full of ResetERA.com types who believe they're in an existential struggle with Bad Guys for the fate of humanity in which any gap is a "loophole" towards societal collapse and it's no wonder: https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229

The entire rant against credit just shows that he doesn't understand the entire concept of credit because how else is it supposed to work? You got a loan, you fucked up, score go down so other people know you fucked up. You declare bankruptcy and you clear out but drop massively. You have to build this back up by showing you're able to handle your debts rather than constantly welsh (problematic, rephrase) on them. What do you want as the replacement system? Where nobody can know your history? Guess who's not getting credit anymore. You want to force them to give despite not being able to see your history? Guess what industry no longer allows individuals to participate. You want to obfuscate this crap through the government so nobody has any information on anything? Welcome to the 2008 financial meltdown again.

On a related note, the screed against bailouts is misplaced for two reasons, one, the claim is that it's insurance and two, that those institutions are so important the fallout will be worse. These are wrong, obviously, and the answer is to stop bailouts, not completely eliminate the credit system and keep everyone impoverished forever just so idiots can feel better. In fact you know what the best argument against bailouts is? MORAL HAZARD, you bail them out they're going to expect to be bailed out so they'll act as if they will be bailed out. You claim to hate this but you want it instituted for everyone.

Which brings me to this specific complaint:

And to make matters worse, the SCOTUS ruling on college loan debt forgiveness basically send a message that our federal government isn't allowed to relieve regular Americans from the burden of debt... even if it's debt taken on in the name of better career & life prospects.

No, it's a ruling that the President cannot waive debts accrued by the federal government by personal fiat. You're yet again so pissed off at the obvious consequences of your own groups type of demands (taxpayer provided college loans to the middle-upper classes out of delusion about education) that you want to abolish the rule of law and destroy the entire financial institution of the nation to try and avoid the consequence. You want to deliberately and irrevocably (for our lifetimes) harm every taxpayer because you conceive of the government as some kind of god that operates outside the bounds of the constricting laws of the universe. You want to sweep aside law, credit, debt, and who knows what else damaging us all for who knows how long in devastating ways so a majority of fools and a minority of people in bad luck situations can temporarily feel relief that will be meaningless in the wake of what follows the mass forced discarding of debts by the state. This is your entire "progressive" MO and it's why you constantly demand a lawless state that abuses everyone then bitch when the state does exactly what you want but NOT LIKE THAT and NOT AGAINST ME.

Calm down. Read a (non-"young adult") book. Lubricate your gun with gobs of liberal precum.

You mean welch, to welsh something is to remove the vowels and add fifty consonants at random

[benji]

Well, Jack Welch would never.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nascar-suspends-noah-gragson-for-liking-meme-mocking-george-floyd.750250/

https://frontstretch.com/2023/08/05/dropping-the-hammer-noah-gragsons-big-mistake/

[tweet]https://twitter.com/goddeketal/status/1687960657365229573?t=agLSS5AvO_DR4XJ_V9GttQ&s=19[/tweet]

Not great, not terrible

[SmokyDave]

I’d ban the dude for life, no second thoughts. There’s no room to plead ignorance, no room for alternative interpretations. You’re making fun of the traumatic death of an innocent man, and almost certainly doing it because he’s black and you know people care about the case.

Fuck that shit. I wouldn’t be happy rubbing doors at 200mph with someone that fucking stupid. Boot him out and set an example.

[Boredfrom]

I will ban him for life because the joke is a fucking pun, and a abysmally bad one.

[Nintex]

tbh I liked it better when the normies were doing minions memes

[Eric Cartman]

You mean welch, to welsh something is to remove the vowels and add fifty consonants at random

Welch is just an older variant of welsh and means the same thing - racist vernacular to remind everyone that you can't trust 'em to keep their word.

Like getting gypped on a deal.