Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Taco Bell Tower]

Forum that was widely outraged over Stellar Blade now declares the outrage to be fake

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/

Messy you dumbass

Would anyone be willing to share more highlights/summaries? I'm curious, but I'm not 2-hours curious.

"mark kern, alleged Game developer"
so good.

Haven't watched it yet, but I am subscribed to Shaun. Did a double take when the thumbnail popped up in my feed.
Well played, Shaun.

Sucks about everything surrounding this game cause it's actually pretty fucking good

Yeah, too bad Why Women Criticise thread bitch about it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/#post-132041712
Messy

The developers themselves didn't help either with how they fired female employees for supporting feminism or get their contributions removed, for this game and previous works.

mahiro_fan

This is constantly spouted in SB threads but has still never even come close to being proven

[Jansen]

             Is this gaslighting?

Same user. Fucked up by wrongly adding someone to a blocklist, got called out for it, and decided to have a meltdown of course 



I love that last bit posted with no sense of self whatsoever

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/your-wishes-and-expectations-for-doom-the-dark-ages.1042566/#post-131985099

User Banned (1 week): Hostility

Watching the trailer, it seems to be diverging from Doom Eternal. We see multiple AOE weapons with wide open and flat combat arenas. Of course the final product could be different but it's all we've got to go on. There is also the parry. Since it's a modern game, I'm sure we'll have enemies flashing red to let you know you can parry now like you are a toddler. Anyways, what do you think about it? What do you want from it?

The fuck is this out of nowhere? Peak incel behavior.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-21-2024-the-advocate-a-betrayal-trans-people-respond-to-sarah-mcbrides-bathroom-ban-compliance.1043436/page-2#post-132033105

I think she's incredibly brave.

For doing what

She doesn't even want to represent trans people

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-21-2024-the-advocate-a-betrayal-trans-people-respond-to-sarah-mcbrides-bathroom-ban-compliance.1043436/page-2#post-132043116

For everything she's had the guts to do so far. She's literally the first, and that takes courage. I'm not telling anyone else how to feel, but to me she's brave as hell and I look forward to seeing how she leads and represents her district in the face of so much negativity.

Guts to do what? She hasn't done anything. Guts to run for office in Delaware? Guts to say she doesn't want to represent the trans community? Guts to present complying with hatred as mere disagreement on a rule?

Like I'm sorry this is beyond pathetic to be lauding her as some figure of inspiration

Compared to you?

[Boredfrom]

Forum that was widely outraged over Stellar Blade now declares the outrage to be fake

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/

Messy you dumbass

Fucking alternate reality shit. You don’t need to like Mark Kern to see assholes bitching about Stellar Blade.

“It was contained in regressive circles.” 

I guess Resetera is a regressive forum.

[HaughtyFrank]

Forum that was widely outraged over Stellar Blade now declares the outrage to be fake

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/

Messy you dumbass

Fucking alternate reality shit. You don’t need to like Mark Kern to see assholes bitching about Stellar Blade.

“It was contained in regressive circles.” 

I guess Resetera is a regressive forum.

What's also funny is that the "Fake Doom outrage" leads back to some dumbasses on Resetera being upset by the "mortally challenged" jokes. So while you can argue that these outrages get overblown (like any outrage probably) Resetera is literally the one place that can't complain about it as they're the origin of this shit

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/americans-who-are-immigrants-in-europe-hows-it-going.1043703/

I've long had a desire to try to move to Europe, but it's always been this kind of "oh, wouldn't that be neat?" sensation that I could easily ignore. In the past year or so, however, it's really been actively nagging at me, to the point that I've gotten my girlfriend (we would get married before moving) on board with the idea (which wasn't that hard; she lived and worked in Ireland for awhile and loved it).

I want to get this out of the way and say that my reasons for wanting to move aren't political at all -- I'm a super-lefty, so obviously I think the state of American politics is reprehensible, but I'm under no impression that any country in the EU is some kind of leftist paradise (or even really "leftist" at all). I'll actually be the first to admit that our life in the US is objectively quite good and comfortable. The real reason I'd like to move abroad is that I've spent my entire life (nearly 40 years) in one tiny little corner of our great big planet, and I'd like to immerse myself in a different culture and lifestyle in a way that a two-week vacation simply can't achieve. I'd also like the ease of access to so many different cultures and languages that living in Europe allows for.

After talking with my girlfriend, our top three choices are the Netherlands (I've got some friends there, both American immigrants and Dutch natives), Scotland, and Ireland. For me, primarily because they all have English-speaking jobs; for my girlfriend, because she really loves Scotland and Ireland. France would also be nice, because I have extended family there, but even though I speak fairly good French, I'd need probably a year's worth of immersion and advanced study to attain a level of fluency suitable for the workplace, so I think it's probably out. If we ended up in the Netherlands, I'd throw myself hard into learning Dutch, obviously.

It's worth mentioning that I'm very aware that we can't just decide to move to Europe, get on a plane, and go. But between the two of us, I think one of us, given enough time, should be able to find a job that will sponsor a residency visa: I'm a very experienced software engineer, and she has a PhD and plenty of experience both teaching and doing administrative work at the university level. We'll also spend time visiting, of course; my girlfriend's already been to all three countries and lived in one, but I've only been to Scotland, from the list. We do not own a house, so the biggest things we'd have to sell are our car and grand piano.

I've tried to research this a lot on reddit, but I mostly see a lot of complaints that seem...I dunno, kinda whiny?...to me: like, for the Netherlands, "it rains a lot" comes up constantly, but we live in Philly, which has substantially higher average annual rainfall. "The food is bland and there's no good Tex-Mex" comes up a lot -- we almost exclusively do our own cooking, so probably not a big deal. The most consequential complaint I've seen is that social mobility is much slower in Europe.

Our American friends in the Netherlands absolutely love it and have said many times they will never come back for any reason, but I'd like a larger sample size. So, Americans AbroadEra -- how's it going? What's good/better? What's neutral? What's bad/worse? What's really bad? Do you regret your decision? Do you plan on returning to America? What were the logistical challenges of moving overseas? I want to know everything, hahaha.

He believes people left after Trump won 

I've spoken to a couple of people who are actually moving but most of them already had those plans before Trump got elected but simply decided to push them forward.

It's funny to answer questions like: "So uh, what do people think about the war. Like it must be a big deal right."

and the collective response of 99% of Dutch people is

"What about Kurd Welders, he is probably about as right wing as Biden right?" 
If you take away the whole demolish the mosques and deislamize Europe and send the Palestinians back to Jordan thing, maybe

[BIONIC]

I ate a month-long forum-wide ban for upsetting people in a politics thread before the election, and my ban aligned with none of the stated "infractions" that are defined at the bottom of every single politics thread, namely:

“The infractions for breaking the rules will be as follows: on a first offense you will be barred from the threads marked "Politics" for a week. On a second offense you will be barred from the threads marked "Politics" for a month. On a third offense you will be barred from the threads marked "Politics" until the end of the election season.”

When I appealed my ban and asked specific questions about what led to my ban, I received a canned response from the anonymous "Resetera Staff" account stating that my ban was "reviewed" and would stay on record with none of the questions in my appeal form answered or even acknowledged.

What's the point of even having these infraction rules stated if moderation doesn't follow them?
What's the point of having an appeals process if users just get standard form rejections from an account that may as well be a bot?

I'm not here to re-litigate the ban in particular or even the content of that thread. The election is already over and further arguing about the candidates' policies is pointless.
I'm asking why the moderation team doesn't follow its own policies and why there is zero accountability in terms of appeals when everything is hidden behind an anonymous catch-all staff account so that nobody outside of the staff team knows which staff members make which decisions.

I'm aware that posting on a forum is a privilege and this isn't a democracy and whatnot, but it's difficult to have constructive discussion when the rules seem to change arbitrarily.

Numerous people complained about this a few weeks ago. Sad to see nothing has changed.

Don’t even bother trying to appeal or ask about stuff pertaining to a ban , staff here will ignore you, give you a canned response or try and gaslight you to think that you are wrong.

I love how Morricunt is pretending things were any better when she was a mod, or that she ever did anything to combat or fix things

[Snoopy]

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=8429.msg3113214#msg3113214

No one cares. You come here not to discuss or contribute but to navel gaze. You bump threads just to talk accomplishments, you post a picture with a baby deliberately edited out but shows your well furnished surroundings. You could have picked a different picture but you picked the baby picture deliberately. Not because of the wonderful sight of a smiling gift from the womb but because it shows your status and how well “learned” you are, sitting next to your triage of tomes and tabernacle of riches - the status you so dearly cling to worship on bended knee like one of God’s slaves begging for forgiveness. I love babies and I love families but something feels off and utterly cynical about it. Calculating, cold, dry all with the implicit intent to show off your bougie domicile and lifestyle all with the grace of a narcissist bent over in Downward Dog worshipping their own shadow dancing a duet with the light in the dark.

Zip up your quarter zip and fuck off to the bougie ass f*aggot Discord for Cafe Communists. If you want to flex do so with class.

I saw that shelf unit On Amazon. It looks alright. Sadly we don't have a triage of tomes, but we could do with more space for our tabernacle of riches

[Boredfrom]

Forum that was widely outraged over Stellar Blade now declares the outrage to be fake

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/

Messy you dumbass

Fucking alternate reality shit. You don’t need to like Mark Kern to see assholes bitching about Stellar Blade.

“It was contained in regressive circles.” 

I guess Resetera is a regressive forum.

What's also funny is that the "Fake Doom outrage" leads back to some dumbasses on Resetera being upset by the "mortally challenged" jokes. So while you can argue that these outrages get overblown (like any outrage probably) Resetera is literally the one place that can't complain about it as they're the origin of this shit

Was that Shaun dude a Gaf/Era user? The argument of “it was a fake outrage, we didn’t get mad about it” was common in GamerGate years at Era and his first video is a GiantBomb reupload.

[Averon]

ComedySmasher had a months long meltdown about Stellar Blade in nearly every thread the game popped up in. Stellar Blade was constantly talked about in the Burka Brigade thread. People were constantly banned for just wanting to talk about the game and not get sucked in to culture war shit for "dismissing concerns about sexism." They were begging for the game to get a Hogwart's Legacy style ban and didn't relent until B-Dumbs made it clear that wasn't gonna happen, one of the rare instances he wasn't dumb as bricks and didn't immediately capitulate to the tiny outrage mob.

Now they're pretending SB never upset them and it was all culture war right-wing grifters? Right-wingers were certainly taking advantage of the game to grift, but ERA was more than happy to accommodate them.

What's even funnier is how Kyuuji and Princess Bubblegum started playing SB to live out their horny transbian fantasies. Just a complete repeat of Cyber Punk 2077.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Forum that was widely outraged over Stellar Blade now declares the outrage to be fake

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/

Messy you dumbass

Would anyone be willing to share more highlights/summaries? I'm curious, but I'm not 2-hours curious.

"mark kern, alleged Game developer"
so good.

Haven't watched it yet, but I am subscribed to Shaun. Did a double take when the thumbnail popped up in my feed.
Well played, Shaun.

Sucks about everything surrounding this game cause it's actually pretty fucking good

Yeah, too bad Why Women Criticise thread bitch about it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/#post-132041712
Messy

The developers themselves didn't help either with how they fired female employees for supporting feminism or get their contributions removed, for this game and previous works.

mahiro_fan

This is constantly spouted in SB threads but has still never even come close to being proven

Messy response with "proof"
https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/#post-132042237

The tweets were deleted by Kim Rukiana (who was a contracted artist), but there's also Song Mina, and in general has happened around other Korean women involved in videogames which sparked Korea's gamergate.
https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/07/29/487832991/south-korea-is-contending-with-a-gamergate-of-its-own-over-a-t-shirt
For obvious reasons, not many women are gonna go on the record with more facts in fear of losing their livelihoods.

[Taco Bell Tower]

ComedySmasher had a months long meltdown about Stellar Blade in nearly every thread the game popped up in. Stellar Blade was constantly talked about in the Burka Brigade thread. People were constantly banned for just wanting to talk about the game and not get sucked in to culture war shit for "dismissing concerns about sexism." 

Now they're pretending SB never upset them and it was all culture war right-wing grifters? Right-wingers were certainly taking advantage of the game to grift, but ERA was more than happy to accommodate them.

What's even funnier is how Kyuuji and Princess Bubblegum started playing SB to live out their horny transbian fantasies. Just a complete repeat of Cyber Punk 2077.

Hey now, PB only started to play it for research purposes.  They rented the game from Gamefly 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-21-2024-the-advocate-a-betrayal-trans-people-respond-to-sarah-mcbrides-bathroom-ban-compliance.1043436/page-2#post-132033105

I think she's incredibly brave.

For doing what

She doesn't even want to represent trans people

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-21-2024-the-advocate-a-betrayal-trans-people-respond-to-sarah-mcbrides-bathroom-ban-compliance.1043436/page-2#post-132043116

For everything she's had the guts to do so far. She's literally the first, and that takes courage. I'm not telling anyone else how to feel, but to me she's brave as hell and I look forward to seeing how she leads and represents her district in the face of so much negativity.

Guts to do what? She hasn't done anything. Guts to run for office in Delaware? Guts to say she doesn't want to represent the trans community? Guts to present complying with hatred as mere disagreement on a rule?

Like I'm sorry this is beyond pathetic to be lauding her as some figure of inspiration

Compared to you?

incelsiorlef is Canadian, the fuck she cares

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/clothes-era-what-clothes-from-fiction-would-you-want-to-wear-in-real-life.1043802/

My God why won't you stop

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/clothes-era-what-clothes-from-fiction-would-you-want-to-wear-in-real-life.1043802/

My God why won't you stop

Echo's thread backfired, it's mostly male Ree posting pics

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/clothes-era-what-clothes-from-fiction-would-you-want-to-wear-in-real-life.1043802/#post-132046671

I already wore a Starfleet Dress Uniform for my wedding so I'm good.

[D3RANG3D]

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-shaun-stellar-blade-the-fake-outrage.1043739/#post-132045867

Thank you, OP, for introducing me to this fenomenal content creator

As a gay man, I am daily bothered by the people bothered by me and other "minorities" in media (I have to stop reading YouTube comments); but this video made me realize that representation changed so quickly that the chuds are in pain with how the things they like aren't made only and just for them anymore
Last edited: Today at 2:29 PM

[BIONIC]

Yeah, I think the larger issue he's raising is that the game is using the trapping of good games to try to make a good game rather than having a narrative/gameplay drive of its own. It lacks identity in his view.

Like, the devs played Nier and thought, "this is deep" so they took that story whole cloth without understanding or copying how the underlying game supported that.

I haven't played either tbh so I can't say how true that is but he certainly supports it in the video.

What he shows feel very F2P.... grindy (in terms of how the combat plays out) and thoughtless.

[Eric Cartman]

ComedySmasher had a months long meltdown about Stellar Blade in nearly every thread the game popped up in. Stellar Blade was constantly talked about in the Burka Brigade thread. People were constantly banned for just wanting to talk about the game and not get sucked in to culture war shit for "dismissing concerns about sexism." 

Now they're pretending SB never upset them and it was all culture war right-wing grifters? Right-wingers were certainly taking advantage of the game to grift, but ERA was more than happy to accommodate them.

What's even funnier is how Kyuuji and Princess Bubblegum started playing SB to live out their horny transbian fantasies. Just a complete repeat of Cyber Punk 2077.

haha all these chuds thinking we were mad when we werent even mad lol stop saying we got mad lmao

[Rendle]

Anakin was able to build a pod in the desert. With a box of scraps!

It's called the Junkyard Strategy and it works

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsgames/comments/g7wcwa/my_guide_to_get_the_best_parts_in_star_wars/

[Jansen]

I'm so tired 

[clockwork5]

Politics is about going to whichever bathroom will get you more votes.

[Jansen]

Wtf

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-21-2024-the-advocate-a-betrayal-trans-people-respond-to-sarah-mcbrides-bathroom-ban-compliance.1043436/page-3#post-132048585

Obviously the scale is much smaller but plenty of us here, and many trans people everywhere, have been the "first" in different settings. First in the friend group, family, or (arguably the scariest) the workplace. So yeah I get that in these situations you do sometimes have to pick your battles, but ultimately you do set the tone on how things are going to be. In the workplace you might even be assisting with setting policy that will make it easier for the folks that follow you. You will absolutely have to push back on some bullshit. I can tell you that if I took a job today and they immediately created a rule that up until that moment *did not exist* that specifically bars me from using the correct bathroom I would have a lot to say and none of it would be "I disagree but ok".

I think for a lot of trans people we expected more because we ourselves have had to self advocate for a long time. I've been out for 5 years, McBride has been out for 12! She knows the score, she has absolutely had to deal with bullshit before. She's pretty, white and cis-passing. She frankly has a lot less to lose here than the majority of trans people nationwide. So make them call the fucking cops, let's do this. Drag this shit out into the light, let the media and voters see exactly what enforcement of this shit looks like, the material reality that it ushers in. Make this as hard to swallow for the public and for lawmakers as you can. Again they *just* made this rule, it's not some long standing thing. It's not even illegal in the vast majority of the country (yet!), preemptive compliance is not the move.

Amen. If my workplace made a rule forcing me to use the men's bathroom, I wouldn't comply. Speaking for my own mind and thoughts but I have far too much self respect to entertain that as an acceptable solution in any way. Thankfully I don't have to though; I was the first trans person in my company and helped shape a lot of the guidelines both for myself and for anyone joining or currently in the closet. Not only do we not have to use the men's bathroom when we're in the office, but we also don't have to go on camera or attend otherwise-mandatory in-person meetings if we're in, well, the transition period of transition where you're not comfortable with where you're at or still having electrolysis and need periods where you're growing your facial hair out. I'm currently doing what I can to push for the private healthcare we have as a company perk to cover medical aspects of transition. Like you say, our lives are often spent advocating for ourselves and that of other trans people.

Even if it was made illegal I wouldn't shrug my shoulders and comply, because again to me that's dehumanising to a point I wouldn't accept. So why would I expect any trans woman representative to do any less than protest for her right to be treated with the respect she deserves, as the woman she is. Especially someone in a position where her actions have extensive ripple effects on the views of those around her, who are lawmakers. Of course it's an impossible situaton, that's the nature of where trans rights and acceptance is. Of course the only path paved for you is the one forcing you to use a men's bathroom. You still have a choice though, and can still protest. People can speculate as much as they like about big bad consequences from doing so, but I don't care. For me being defiant in the face of it is worth infinitely more, and any consequences faced only serve to highlight how dire the situation is for trans people, especially trans women. I don't think not even acknowledging it as the issue it is – an issue already faced by many trans adults and children across America – is conducive to progress, I don't think appealing to civility will get us any further than it has the past half decade; absolutely nowhere. These are people who have spent years gleefully removing the rights of others, to a public that's either apathetic or easily persuaded. A trans woman going 'I don't agree but ok' to using the men's room on first ask, after being called a man by the person making the request, does no more for progress than teach some people that there are trans women who find a bathroom ban objectionable but ultimately not worth fighting for.

[Steven Snell]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-21-2024-the-advocate-a-betrayal-trans-people-respond-to-sarah-mcbrides-bathroom-ban-compliance.1043436/page-3#post-132048585

Obviously the scale is much smaller but plenty of us here, and many trans people everywhere, have been the "first" in different settings. First in the friend group, family, or (arguably the scariest) the workplace. So yeah I get that in these situations you do sometimes have to pick your battles, but ultimately you do set the tone on how things are going to be. In the workplace you might even be assisting with setting policy that will make it easier for the folks that follow you. You will absolutely have to push back on some bullshit. I can tell you that if I took a job today and they immediately created a rule that up until that moment *did not exist* that specifically bars me from using the correct bathroom I would have a lot to say and none of it would be "I disagree but ok".

I think for a lot of trans people we expected more because we ourselves have had to self advocate for a long time. I've been out for 5 years, McBride has been out for 12! She knows the score, she has absolutely had to deal with bullshit before. She's pretty, white and cis-passing. She frankly has a lot less to lose here than the majority of trans people nationwide. So make them call the fucking cops, let's do this. Drag this shit out into the light, let the media and voters see exactly what enforcement of this shit looks like, the material reality that it ushers in. Make this as hard to swallow for the public and for lawmakers as you can. Again they *just* made this rule, it's not some long standing thing. It's not even illegal in the vast majority of the country (yet!), preemptive compliance is not the move.

Amen. If my workplace made a rule forcing me to use the men's bathroom, I wouldn't comply. Speaking for my own mind and thoughts but I have far too much self respect to entertain that as an acceptable solution in any way. Thankfully I don't have to though; I was the first trans person in my company and helped shape a lot of the guidelines both for myself and for anyone joining or currently in the closet. Not only do we not have to use the men's bathroom when we're in the office, but we also don't have to go on camera or attend otherwise-mandatory in-person meetings if we're in, well, the transition period of transition where you're not comfortable with where you're at or still having electrolysis and need periods where you're growing your facial hair out. I'm currently doing what I can to push for the private healthcare we have as a company perk to cover medical aspects of transition. Like you say, our lives are often spent advocating for ourselves and that of other trans people.

Even if it was made illegal I wouldn't shrug my shoulders and comply, because again to me that's dehumanising to a point I wouldn't accept. So why would I expect any trans woman representative to do any less than protest for her right to be treated with the respect she deserves, as the woman she is. Especially someone in a position where her actions have extensive ripple effects on the views of those around her, who are lawmakers. Of course it's an impossible situaton, that's the nature of where trans rights and acceptance is. Of course the only path paved for you is the one forcing you to use a men's bathroom. You still have a choice though, and can still protest. People can speculate as much as they like about big bad consequences from doing so, but I don't care. For me being defiant in the face of it is worth infinitely more, and any consequences faced only serve to highlight how dire the situation is for trans people, especially trans women. I don't think not even acknowledging it as the issue it is – an issue already faced by many trans adults and children across America – is conducive to progress, I don't think appealing to civility will get us any further than it has the past half decade; absolutely nowhere. These are people who have spent years gleefully removing the rights of others, to a public that's either apathetic or easily persuaded. A trans woman going 'I don't agree but ok' to using the men's room on first ask, after being called a man by the person making the request, does no more for progress than teach some people that there are trans women who find a bathroom ban objectionable but ultimately not worth fighting for.

I bet you everyone fucking hates Kyuuji at their workplace. Especially the women who have to witness this in their bathroom:

[AnnoyedCanadian]

I can't take that fat ginger in any serious way at all.

Just an absolute asshole.

Also fuck those pro-Hamas retards who were being complete mongoloid fucks in Montreal last night. Way to kill any support you might have had left for your movement.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/cars-burned-windows-smashed-at-pro-palestinian-anti-nato-demonstration-in-montreal

[Jansen]

I bet all the women at kyuuji's workplace keep a taser on them when they go to the bathroom

[AnnoyedCanadian]

How long before ComedySmasher decides he is trans?

I'm surprised more of the terminally online ones haven't jumped on the trend this late yet.