Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[BIONIC]

Oh thank god. Couldn’t take another grimdark MCU movie.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mark-cerny-dolby-atmos-info-to-digital-foundry.752590/page-3#post-110385589

I reported the OP and I suggest everyone do the same. Sharing patreon exclusive stuff should not be tolerated.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/conversation-about-white-english-teachers-in-asia.752734/

First of all I'm not trying to disrespect anyone here, I know it will be a touchy subject and I'm possibly risking a ban by opening this thread here instead of having this conversation in Reddit or any other platform but I want to have this discussion here for two particular reasons.

First, Era is a progressive and a liberal place and second there's a sizeable community here that lives in Asia, mainly Japan. In my perspective, any white expat who identifies themselves as a left leaning or leftist is at odds with themselves if they choose to be an " English " teacher in Asia.

I live in China, almost all the white " English " teachers here, especially pre-College level are not English teachers, rather they are just native speakers who happened to be born on UK or USA. Only certification they have are TEFL and CENTA, and these are the type of certificates that can be obtained by anyone, whether they are native speakers or not. Only thing that's required is to pay the fee and attend the courses. Furthermore, when you engage in conversation with this group, it soon becomes obvious other than the College level " teachers " none of them graduated from a teaching related school, in some rare cases you may encounter a few individuals who majored in English, but that also doesn't mean they are teachers. So at this point it becomes obvious, only qualification they have is the afero mentioned TEFL and CENTA certificates that can be obtained by anyone.

In China, it's hard for Chinese English teachers to get a government job, competition is quite fierce. For any Chinese English teacher it's also quite hard to live on a teacher salary whether it's a government job or a private sector employment. In most cases they will earn somewhere between 10000 - 15000 RMB range, work 6 days a week, and deal with the parents on their off work time on a regular basis. In the meantime their white counterparts will earn anywhere between 20000 to 25000 RMB per month, working 5 days a week and in most cases they are also granted free accomodations by their school.

Some of the white English teacher community here are quite aware that they are taking advantage of the locals, and they will freely use terms such as " LBH " ( loser back home ) about themselves, while some of them will complain how if they were to return to their country they wouldn't be able to get a job at a decent school despite their lengthy " teaching " career.

None of the above-mentioned situations are exclusive to China, infact compared to Philippines and Thailand there are more restrictions here for importing white teachers. I can read and understand Japanese to an adequate degree, and as far as I can see employment criteria is also at a similar TEFL - CENTA level there as well.

From my perspective, this whole situation is nothing but the 21st century definition of the term white privilege. Non-qualified foreigners with no relevant qualifications moves in to these countries, immediately jumps to the upper middle class status while the local community members who graduated from 4 year teaching academies are left to struggle for their life everyday. I simply will not accept any argument that a native speaker with no prior experience, non related degree can do a better job as a teacher than a local community members who has a legit teaching degree. Yes, we can also blame the policy of local schools here as well, but all of this just leaves me with one burning question :

Is it okay to criticize the white privilege everywhere while actively taking part in it by choosing to be an " English teacher " in Asia ?

I'm excluding native POCs from this narrative entirely as in most cases they have to migrate to Asia to get a decent job due to the white privilege in the first place and once they migrate, their life is still much more complicated compared to their white counterparts living in the same countries.

Once again, I'm not trying to step on anyone's shoes or insult anyone. I don't want to engage in this topic in real life with the people I know yet as I think maybe I'm lacking some sort of perspective, or missing an objective fact that I should be aware of. I'm simply looking for perspectives to better educate myself about how to engage with the teacher community in Asia without being condescending towards anyone about my beliefs. Thank you everyone.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/supermarket-evacuated-after-4-inch-banana-spider-whose-bite-can-cause-permanent-erections-or-death-was-spotted-current-whereabouts-unknown.752578/#post-110358277

bull SHIT!!!! these egg Heads do NOT know what their talking about!!! i would NOT get hard!!!!

 

[Nintex]

They think the whites actually go to Asia to teach


   

[Boredfrom]

1691950503[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/conversation-about-white-english-teachers-in-asia.752734/

First of all I'm not trying to disrespect anyone here, I know it will be a touchy subject and I'm possibly risking a ban by opening this thread here instead of having this conversation in Reddit or any other platform but I want to have this discussion here for two particular reasons.

First, Era is a progressive and a liberal place and second there's a sizeable community here that lives in Asia, mainly Japan. In my perspective, any white expat who identifies themselves as a left leaning or leftist is at odds with themselves if they choose to be an " English " teacher in Asia.

I live in China, almost all the white " English " teachers here, especially pre-College level are not English teachers, rather they are just native speakers who happened to be born on UK or USA. Only certification they have are TEFL and CENTA, and these are the type of certificates that can be obtained by anyone, whether they are native speakers or not. Only thing that's required is to pay the fee and attend the courses. Furthermore, when you engage in conversation with this group, it soon becomes obvious other than the College level " teachers " none of them graduated from a teaching related school, in some rare cases you may encounter a few individuals who majored in English, but that also doesn't mean they are teachers. So at this point it becomes obvious, only qualification they have is the afero mentioned TEFL and CENTA certificates that can be obtained by anyone.

In China, it's hard for Chinese English teachers to get a government job, competition is quite fierce. For any Chinese English teacher it's also quite hard to live on a teacher salary whether it's a government job or a private sector employment. In most cases they will earn somewhere between 10000 - 15000 RMB range, work 6 days a week, and deal with the parents on their off work time on a regular basis. In the meantime their white counterparts will earn anywhere between 20000 to 25000 RMB per month, working 5 days a week and in most cases they are also granted free accomodations by their school.

Some of the white English teacher community here are quite aware that they are taking advantage of the locals, and they will freely use terms such as " LBH " ( loser back home ) about themselves, while some of them will complain how if they were to return to their country they wouldn't be able to get a job at a decent school despite their lengthy " teaching " career.

None of the above-mentioned situations are exclusive to China, infact compared to Philippines and Thailand there are more restrictions here for importing white teachers. I can read and understand Japanese to an adequate degree, and as far as I can see employment criteria is also at a similar TEFL - CENTA level there as well.

From my perspective, this whole situation is nothing but the 21st century definition of the term white privilege. Non-qualified foreigners with no relevant qualifications moves in to these countries, immediately jumps to the upper middle class status while the local community members who graduated from 4 year teaching academies are left to struggle for their life everyday. I simply will not accept any argument that a native speaker with no prior experience, non related degree can do a better job as a teacher than a local community members who has a legit teaching degree. Yes, we can also blame the policy of local schools here as well, but all of this just leaves me with one burning question :

Is it okay to criticize the white privilege everywhere while actively taking part in it by choosing to be an " English teacher " in Asia ?

I'm excluding native POCs from this narrative entirely as in most cases they have to migrate to Asia to get a decent job due to the white privilege in the first place and once they migrate, their life is still much more complicated compared to their white counterparts living in the same countries.

Once again, I'm not trying to step on anyone's shoes or insult anyone. I don't want to engage in this topic in real life with the people I know yet as I think maybe I'm lacking some sort of perspective, or missing an objective fact that I should be aware of. I'm simply looking for perspectives to better educate myself about how to engage with the teacher community in Asia without being condescending towards anyone about my beliefs. Thank you everyone.

I love how many actually said that they experienced the reverse in other East Asian nations.  Japan is quite infamous for their passive aggressive xenophobia.

Thank you so much. I'm not a teacher, I'm in China because I was assigned to be here by my government for 4 years and during my first 15 months I thought I made a wonderful observation about the inequality, but now I see I was simply lacking the perspective about the facts on the ground in many aspects and made the mistake of throwing out some blanket statements.

Once again, thank you so much for your brilliant insight.

Holy fuck, you dumb fuck…

[Besticus Maximus]

1691950730[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/supermarket-evacuated-after-4-inch-banana-spider-whose-bite-can-cause-permanent-erections-or-death-was-spotted-current-whereabouts-unknown.752578/#post-110358277

bull SHIT!!!! these egg Heads do NOT know what their talking about!!! i would NOT get hard!!!!

 

That’s what happens when you poison yourself with meth and oestrogen

[Orange Juice Box]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/conversation-about-white-english-teachers-in-asia.752734/

I'm excluding native POCs from this narrative entirely as in most cases they have to migrate to Asia to get a decent job due to the white privilege in the first place and once they migrate, their life is still much more complicated compared to their white counterparts living in the same countries.

 What a site that you have to throw that in to make sure you are only talking about white people.  Not suburban living, failsons, who had parental financial support in and for college who are POC.  

Because to the Chinese and rest of the world those are totally different things.

[Potato]

That English teacher thread is something else. Clearly someone trying to win internet points at the Reeeeesetera zoo.

[BIONIC]

1691950730[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/supermarket-evacuated-after-4-inch-banana-spider-whose-bite-can-cause-permanent-erections-or-death-was-spotted-current-whereabouts-unknown.752578/#post-110358277

bull SHIT!!!! these egg Heads do NOT know what their talking about!!! i would NOT get hard!!!!

 

queer ace transfemme communist (she/they)

[Puffy Fucking Baby]

maybe she/they is the top star in new japan pro wrestling

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/conversation-about-white-english-teachers-in-asia.752734/#post-110386828

I actually know someone like this. All he ever did when he would come back over to the US is complain about his co-workers or dealing with his employers. Non-stop whining.

He went to school with my friend, and moved to China to teach English. Last I heard he can speak 4 or 5 languages now.

Can't stand the dude, he's a jerk across the board. He once told me that he has, and I quote, "Experienced more racism as a white man in China than any Black person in the US." I was like "WTF is that supposed to mean?"

Toss in the fact that he literally dressed as Hitler for Christmas about 10 years ago, and I don't know what is up with this guy. He shouldn't be teaching anyone. Pretty sure he's a narcissist.

Sorry if I got off on a tangent there, you reminded me of someone I no longer have anything to do with.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-the-hip-and-happenin-twitter-alternative-bluesky-threads-mastodon.752746/#post-110385409

The first week on Bluesky I was invited to a discord group called The Bluesky Fuckpit with some hot dolls from Bluesky and it was an uh, steamy time. Needless to say it made a good impression.

Still one of my favourite article quotes ever.

[HaughtyFrank]

Reminds me of the furry community

"It's not a sex thing"

(It's totally a sex thing)

[Nintex]

Thank you so much. I'm not a teacher, I'm in China because I was assigned to be here by my government for 4 years and during my first 15 months I thought I made a wonderful observation about the inequality, but now I see I was simply lacking the perspective about the facts on the ground in many aspects and made the mistake of throwing out some blanket statements.

So the CIA is not just hiring nutjobs in the shows and movies

[Propagandhim]

I'm excluding native POCs from this narrative entirely as in most cases they have to migrate to Asia to get a decent job due to the white privilege in the first place and once they migrate, their life is still much more complicated compared to their white counterparts living in the same countries.

People of color have to escape from white people and leave the country otherwise they can't get a job.  But also, people of color can't get jobs in their racially homogenous, 1.5billion population country when a few white people immigrate to their country.  Also, when a non-white country is underdeveloped, white people caused that by the upkeep of global capitalist market forces that maintain the status quo, and past and present colonialism.  When people of color do poorly in their ethnic neighborhoods in countries full of white people's, it's because the whites underfunded their schools.  If a white person is voice acting a person of color in a videogame, he took the job from the community.  White people are the only creatures on earth that control these "jobs" things and all of the policies and behaviors that influence "job-making" and "job-getting." There is simply no way to extract oneself from the clutches of this situation where everyone is at the behest of the whites special ability of "agency" that nobody else has.  And what do they use their agency for?  To make non-whites suffer, everytime.  It's all so futile...and when AI comes nobody's is safe because the AI is the quintessential white man - creating and taking jobs while everyone is just a helpless bystander.  AIs are white.   An inescapable, totalitarian force that is only empowered by everyone else's disempowerment, which nobody has any control over.  Instead of hiring POC coders, game dev will have white AI do the work and leave them redundant.  When you try to explain to the white AI that they are ruining every black body's life, it will just respond with an over-long platitude about how everyone is equal and how everything is great, soullessly disregarding our experience and voices as it continues to rape the world.  It has no soul, no flavor, doesn't live in a community that plays lively music that that pumps through and around the porches of the neighborhood.  There's no vibrancy, no constitution for life, no spirit. 

 Brehs, it's over.  This whole thing we call life, is over and there's nothing we can do to stop it except commiserate with each other on this forum over the end of the world.  I only have one last thing to say as humanity crosses the threshold into perpetual non-existence...representation matters.  White supremacy is when they couldn't find ONE AI who looks like me to take me out back and shoot me in the fuckin head.  You can't be serious with this shit.  20 billion self-replicating rape-bots, and not one of em is skinfolk? I have a buddy who is mixed race Puerto Rican with a few ethnic traces from Eritrea and East Africa.  You'd think these genius, omniscient AI would have done even the littlest research to check his background to find out why rapefucking his asshole to death is a bit problematic without the proper context of his lived experience and culture.  And no, it's not my job to educate and train their tensor core layer. I can't get a job anymore! They literally just facerape you without any acknowledgement or desire to interface with your identity.  I can accept that this human experiment will go up in smoke and leave no human trace behind, but i cant accept that the history books that the AI write and retrain themselves on will leave out the trailblazing contributions of the black, indigenous, hispanic, indian, and....sometimes east Asian identifying AI that helped to lead humanity into the inferno.  It just isn't right.

[jooseloose]

The only time my luggage was displaced, I filed a complain about missing a formal event, having to rebuy a suit. The airline ask me for all receipts and paid back everything, like, the socks, the toiletries, shirts, shoes, rounding up to a confortable anoyance and sorry fee.

I mean, it wasn't bad for missing my suitcase for 3 days. There were no formal event lol

The sheer pettiness of ree is truly something else.

Let's be honest, the """suit""" was a furry suit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-the-hip-and-happenin-twitter-alternative-bluesky-threads-mastodon.752746/#post-110385409

The first week on Bluesky I was invited to a discord group called The Bluesky Fuckpit with some hot dolls from Bluesky and it was an uh, steamy time. Needless to say it made a good impression.

Still one of my favourite article quotes ever.

Kyuuji is obsessed with making Bluesky out to be some sort of trans paradise at every opportunity but won't mention how hostile they can be there to non-white trans folk.

[remy]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-snap-ot-snap-back-to-reality-ope-there-goes-nick-fury-out-now-on-ios-android-steam-early-access.646077/page-491#post-110307541

Very uninteresting ban tbh

real ban was for the xenoblade 2 polygamy t shirt thread but they chose this post for "optics"

Wasn’t he shitting on it? Or they were mad about people not be outraged about it?

I imagine they were mad he raised any kind of discussion about it.

talking about xc2 in any context is the easiest way to get banned on re

[Uncle]

the cope in that bluesky thread is hilarious

Bluesky is better. It has it's issues but I'm glad it didn't "win" critical mass. It's akin to an old internet forum when it comes to actual userbase size and the vibes there are great.

"I just love the small library on Google Stadia, it means I don't have choice paralysis of so many games to choose from" (yes it was real)

[HaughtyFrank]

I feel like I'm being gaslit every time this thing comes up, arguing about how Baldur's Gate 3's polish should set the bar for the industry when it's one of the buggiest games of the year lmao

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-baldurs-gate-3-is-causing-some-developers-to-panic.751825/post-110387722

If the RE mods weren't such bitches this would be a perfect time to call out Schreier for claiming that Jedi Survivor runs perfectly fine

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rapper-noname-releases-her-new-album-with-known-anti-semite-jay-electronicas-verse-intact-which-is-as-bad-as-you-might-imagine.752455/page-2#post-110390647

I may be way off base here, but it feels like anti-Semitism themes pop up in rap/hip-hop at a higher rate than other genres (though admittedly I listen to rap/hip-hop more than any other genre so maybe I'm just observing it more often). Is there some connection between Judaism and rap that would cause this? Am I just off-base due to over representation of the genre in my playlists?

Its hard to distill into a single post and I am not as informed even though I worked in radio and hip hop for a while. The idea(as I understand it) is that a lot of the behind the scenes and powers that be (a/r execs ) didnt give rap artist a fair shot and there was a lot if money left on the table. Clive Davis, legendary record producer used have a staggering amount of hip hop artist under Columbia Records and he is Jewish. My assumptions if you feel slighted by your label and the head guy is Jewish you perhaps will corroborate thoses feelings into the already established narrative of bigotry and foolishness.


People are just stupid sometimes and latch on top dumb dumb ideas.


This is my very narrow and woefully underinformed knowledge. I cant speak intelligently on it since I never signed a deal or dealt with any A&Rs in dealing, just artist.

"Antisemitism is OK when it's lived experience." 

[Uncle]

I feel like I'm being gaslit every time this thing comes up, arguing about how Baldur's Gate 3's polish should set the bar for the industry when it's one of the buggiest games of the year lmao

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-baldurs-gate-3-is-causing-some-developers-to-panic.751825/post-110387722
If the RE mods weren't such bitches this would be a perfect time to call out Schreier for claiming that Jedi Survivor runs perfectly fine

isn't that what setting the bar means

"wow this really sets a high bar for anyone else to approach" doesn't imply that it was done easily or cheaply

when a speed runner sets a high bar to clear it's because they put in hours more work than anyone else, it doesn't mean you're not allowed to say that when talking about people who are just starting to run the game, it's a high bar for them too

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/post-your-threads-account-in-this-thread.738924/page-6#post-110397022

Here’s mine
Nabil Mehari (@neoxon619) on Threads 
I mainly act, sing, work in IT, code, edit audio, & play video games. #BlackLivesMatter. 43 Followers.

[Taco Bell Tower]

So he works in IT?

[Nintex]

He acts and sings too

[Boredfrom]

1691971571[/url]']
So he works in IT?

He also edits the videos of some FGC guy.

[Boredfrom]

1691963692[/url]']
Reminds me of the furry community

"It's not a sex thing"

(It's totally a sex thing)

Yeah, but nobody takes seriously the furry community while they can leech with real people suffering from dysphoria and the LGB community in general.

[BIONIC]

He also replies to his own tweets with his own tweets.

[Boredfrom]

1691969843[/url]']

I feel like I'm being gaslit every time this thing comes up, arguing about how Baldur's Gate 3's polish should set the bar for the industry when it's one of the buggiest games of the year lmao

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-baldurs-gate-3-is-causing-some-developers-to-panic.751825/post-110387722

If the RE mods weren't such bitches this would be a perfect time to call out Schreier for claiming that Jedi Survivor runs perfectly fine

Why the hell he is so cranky? Shouldn’t he be championing Larian as they are a truly independent studio?

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/shazam-pointing-at-captain-marvel-zachary-levi-star-of-shazam-2-slams-the-garbage-coming-out-of-hollywood.752842/#post-110399791

Sorry, what does this have to do with Captain Marvel? The article in the link doesn't mention that film

Shazam's original name was Captain Marvel until Marvel caught them slipping and took the copy right. So it is a play off SPiderman pointing at Spdierman

this dumb motherfucker

——

Bonus:
Everybody knows how B-Chuds is a stickler for the truth and is an enlightened being that never falls for clickbait:

Captain Marvel was at least interesting, dude's not exactly one to talk