Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-begins-bombing-of-southern-gaza-following-collapse-of-ceasefire-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-296?post=121247334#post-121247334

A brain tumor can't take this cracker bastard [Biden] out soon enough. Makes me want to puke.

Just for this take:

"He kind of went back to that and said, 'You know, I hear what everybody's saying, but like, think about the young people that were killed on October 7.' And it kind of dismissed the over 30,000 people dead in Palestine," she said.

I’m more surprised of the ability of ArabAmericans of ignore why there was a retaliation (even if disproportionate) in the first place. 

Also, shoot is still not banned.

That's just how Islam works, they never do anything wrong, they're always the innocent victim and when you catch them doing something wrong they blame it on the jews.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/comics-ot1-this-is-dc-year-we-just-gotta-accept-that-marvel-boys.800595/page-55?post=121235064#post-121235064

This Ed Piskor thing is wild with all these people blaming "internet bullying" and not Ed Piskor hitting on a fucking teenager. The mental gymnastics on display from some of these clowns is nothing short of embarrassing.

While he was responsible for the things he did I don't think it's wrong to at least partly blame the online mob that quickly formed. Nothing he did means he deserved to die and I bet most people attacking him online didn't even give a shit about the woman, they just saw an opportunity to tear someone down and display their moral superiority, it was never about supporting the victim for them.
Allegations like that should be properly investigated but the public should stay out of it because what good did come out of this? He's dead, his family and friends lost a loved one, it didn't help the victim, it might even make things worse for her because what if she blames herself? She makes a post and a few days later he's dead, that's most likely not what she wanted and it can easily fuck someone up even if she's obviously not responsible for what happened.

I guess the folx of the right side of history got another body added to their list?

I struggle to feel anything but loathing for Piskor, who with his final words weaponized his own suicide to paint a target onto a group of victims that wanted nothing more than justice and through that peace. Now he's gone. There's no opportunity for justice, for reparation, for forgiveness, for healing, for anything. All that's left are the consequences of Piskor's monstrous choice, his intention to leave an unhealing wound in his shadow, and too many ghouls interested only in manifesting more pain.

Condemn the harassment. Support Piskor's victims. And otherwise let's do our best to start forgetting this nightmare so what harm was caused can heal.

Feel like it's noteworthy that Piskor wasn't accused of assaulting or raping anyone but of sending text messages to a 17 year old artist that could be interpreted as flirty.

I think that's generally the problem with this stuff is that there isn't really a proportion to any of this. A creep gets the same "cancel" response as an outright rapist.

[Boredfrom]

He got called out for shit he did, and despite claiming the existence of evidence that would completely exonerate him, he decided to immediately go with the nuclear option and commit suicide.

That is a take.

I imagine this is the reason why people are feeling way more sorry for this dude that the girls he ‘harassed’.

[Nintex]

I didn't know he existed until 5 seconds ago but I always thought that guy was sus

Feel like it's noteworthy that Piskor wasn't accused of assaulting or raping anyone but of sending text messages to a 17 year old artist that could be interpreted as flirty.

Flirty? I mean if he had kidnapped her, drove her across the border in the back of a pick-up truck and locked her up in a prison cell in the basement of a UN funded hospital maybe you could've classified it as 'flirty'. 

But this was clearly much much worse than that.

[Uncle]

Im missing the part where the Matrix 1 is some sort of transgender movie... Like what in the movie gives them that Idea? I mean... what???

You see exiting the Matrix was leaving the gender role assigned to you by the cold heartless machine patriarchy. Entering the world of destitute post-society nuclear winter is the same feeling as being reborn as a beautiful trans butterfly.

neo got his egg cracked  

by a poc

[kaleidoscopium]

I would argue the Matrix is nothing without them, and just hiring some generic action bro director will make that abundantly clear.

Drew Goddard's resume is not to be taken lightly. The guy was a writer on Buffy/Lost/Daredevil/Cloverfield/Cabin in the Woods/World War Z and the showrunner/executive producer on Daredevil S1. He's both writing and directing this new movie.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-‘matrix’-movie-in-the-works-at-warner-bros-from-drew-goddard-lana-wachowski-will-ep.833649/page-5?post=121252443#post-121252443


These two posts being so close together is just great

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98the-fantastic-four%E2%80%99-julia-garner-joins-marvel-studios-movie-as-a-shalla-bal-version-of-silver-surfer.833778/

Naked chrome woman in the MCU?

[kaleidoscopium]

Think vonocort was on thin ice for this one too 

Well, you cis fucks won I guess, again.

Funny how these reads of Matrix Resurrections discourse have the pro side just going "you don't understand it" always leave out the that a lot of people praised it for being a film about the trans experience, something the first film nails and the sequels let fall to the wayside.

It's almost like you folks don't have an actual rebuttal to that so you just ignore it.

Could you help me understand what you mean here? I'm kind of confused how one posts goes with the other.

Been awhile since one of the trans mafia was culled

[Nintex]

Well, you cis fucks won I guess, again

News feed

[kaleidoscopium]

Here's my stance, as I have repeated multiple times in the thread. The Matrix is outsider fiction, and as a result, I think it is important for the creative lead driving it to be someone from a marginalized background, whose experiences and personal perspective can inform the story.

The original four movies were trans allegories. If that's no longer going to be the focus, what are we going to get in its place? At the end of the day, the perspective the movie is filtered through is more important to me personally than the action. I don't give a shit about the fights if there is no philosophical or outsider core at the heart of the story. I can get dumb fights anywhere. I come to the Matrix for more than that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-‘matrix’-movie-in-the-works-at-warner-bros-from-drew-goddard-lana-wachowski-will-ep.833649/page-5?post=121255764#post-121255764

Do you even know what allegory means you fucking melon?

[kaleidoscopium]

Bonus

Excuse me as I melt into a lesbian puddle.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-355?post=121256031#post-121256031

Transbian club behavior

[I don't swear]

I regret posting in their SB thread. I'll take the advice I was given to just exhibit the zoo instead. If I respond sensibly, I've got a 60% plus chance of getting banned.

[Echelon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98the-fantastic-four%E2%80%99-julia-garner-joins-marvel-studios-movie-as-a-shalla-bal-version-of-silver-surfer.833778/

Naked chrome woman in the MCU?

Speaking of DOLLS, am I RIGHT, BOYS...CLUB?

[Besticus Maximus]

I thought Princess Bubblegum was above such harlotry 

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-‘matrix’-movie-in-the-works-at-warner-bros-from-drew-goddard-lana-wachowski-will-ep.833649/page-5?post=121255764#post-121255764

Do you even know what allegory means you fucking melon?

Unironically, they don’t seem to. Hypothetical conditionals and empathic relatability elude them, too.

Couple years ago there was a conversation in Hollywood about non whites and women only hired to work on projects about non whites and women. Boxed in to only write literal self inserts by tumblr think. Retroactively making these assumptions is doubly weird. Like saying Kundun is a Catholic Italian movie.

[DocWager]

I noticed somebody actually did the “No you’re wrong” to Jeff Marvel in the Stellar Blade thread.

Edit: Ehhhh… What the hell!

[clockwork5]

It’s an allegory… see Neo, the savior of humankind must save humanity by sacrificing himself and resurrecting to complete Trinity… wait that’s not it. 

You see, it’s an allegory, like the matrix is a play unfolding and we are captives, watching shadows on the wall and Morpheus can break us free of this cave but we will never be able to return… wait wrong allegory.

So the machines are like an “evil genius” of sorts. Distorting our perception and deceiving our rational minds; however, Neo must rely on the knowledge and understanding of his own existence. He thinks, therefore he is, and with this knowledge he can see through the deception and harness the power of his own consciousness… hmmmm I don’t think it’s that one. 

I’m sure there is a trans allegory in there somewhere.

[PogiJones]

Dora the Explorer is an amazing trans allegory, as she's always going off to discover something (like discovering your true self). The song "I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'm the map, I'M THE MAP!" is a heartwarming allegory of daily HRT leading you to the goal. Then Swiper of course represents the chuds trying to steal your stuff (i.e. KILL YOU), and finally, it shows how if you just repeatedly shout loud enough ("Swiper no swiping, Swiper no swiping, SWIPER NO SWIPING!") you're definitely gonna win without having to actually do anything.

Incredible allegory way ahead of its time, I mean, just look at her haircut. What do you mean I just made all this up?! Stop trying to take queer art for yourselves, chuds!

[benji]

Anyway the whole comparison with what's just as bad or worse kinda sucks and doesnt seem sincere, especially from people who use things like "but its based on a real woman" or "but his wife drew designs". Just be honest and say you like what they're doing.

I like how when their takes are so bad and easy to counter that people just use the same obvious points to counter them, they think people repeatedly undermining their takes somehow strengthens their takes.

"Ugh, not this 'video evidence from space' and 'you can book a flight going around the world' argument again. Just admit you get off on the idea of a round Earth."

They do this with everything, their favorite "debunking" is laughing and rolling their eyes never realizing nobody's ever taken down the counterargument. It's hilarious when compared to how often they spam thought terminating cliches and all use the same exact language. (LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK!)

I think the best example remains the "I identify as an attack helicopter" because it so clearly enrages them since they have no answer to it. To where they viciously went after that trans woman for writing a story about it in an honest way. And they think it's dismissing the argument by yelling "ONE JOKE" without ever identifying what the joke is even about.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-107?post=121234401#post-121234401

Rowling didn't think she was hateful. She didn't think her opinions were harmful. When she was confronted with that, she couldn't come to terms with the fact that her already held beliefs were harmful, so instead of learning and growing, she doubled down on her already held beliefs as being completely reasonable and so the people trying to show otherwise were just trying to destroy her reputation with exaggeration or made up lies.

You don't have to come to terms with things people tell you that are wrong. For example, when you were challenged with the UN Report you denied existed.

Ressurections was already the perfect final note on "The Matrix" as a cultural idea. A beautiful introspective epilogue from (one of) its original creators, and a cautionary warning that while WB may make more Matrix movies after, the real Matrix ends here.

The Matrix is first and foremost a creative statement and piece of self examination form the Wachowskis. It's not a playground for other creators. If it doesn't come from one of the sisters then it's not really the Matrix.

Also, and no offense to Drew Goddard who I'm sure is a fine person and director, but the Matrix is such a deeply queer work that you probably shouldn't be allowed to touch unless you're queer yourself.

It's a piece of transgender art. I really don't need to see a straight, cis guy's* interpretation of it.

*Assuming of course that Drew Goddard is straight and Cis, because I can't find that much info on his personal life other then that he's married with kids. If he's actually queer himself I do recant some of this.

The Take™ has been divined:

If you can't nail the choreography, then don't bother.

Other than that, I'm not sure it's needed, but there's certainly potential for something interesting there.

If you can't get a marginalized writer and director with a real perspective and a background in philosophy, don't bother. The action is secondary to everything else.

The world does not need another meathead shoot-em-up action movie. We have trash like the Beekeeper for that

Here's my stance, as I have repeated multiple times in the thread. The Matrix is outsider fiction, and as a result, I think it is important for the creative lead driving it to be someone from a marginalized background, whose experiences and personal perspective can inform the story.

The original four movies were trans allegories. If that's no longer going to be the focus, what are we going to get in its place? At the end of the day, the perspective the movie is filtered through is more important to me personally than the action. I don't give a shit about the fights if there is no philosophical or outsider core at the heart of the story. I can get dumb fights anywhere. I come to the Matrix for more than that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-‘matrix’-movie-in-the-works-at-warner-bros-from-drew-goddard-lana-wachowski-will-ep.833649/page-5?post=121255764#post-121255764

The fuck are these people even talking about? What's queer about The Matrix? Where's the philosophy? If The Matrix is what you get from "a background in philosophy" then why didn't they use any of it in writing any of it? It's incoherent gibberish. The entire story arc was irrelevant. All the choices were false choices.

They don't have a background in philosophy btw, they dropped out of theater programs. The lack of philosophy background or understanding especially shows in V for Vendetta where they made something coherent and philosophical into a complete mess. They're so "philosophically" minded that they destroyed the internal allegory for a hamfisted political polemic trapped entirely in the moment it was made while also completely changing the characters and coming out in favor of something bad.

We're back to the thought terminating cliches they repeat, just spam how queer and philosophical it is to gatekeep anyone else from being able to write in the universe. Don't worry about having to identify any of this because you can just scream about it louder until the chuds stop with their annoying talking.

[Polident]

I miss when nerds would go on about Matrix ripping off Dark City and Morrison’s Invisibles.

[benji]

You know what philosophy The Matrix is a far closer to being allegory for than any of this nonsense? Thomas Szasz.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

The fuck are these people even talking about? What's queer about The Matrix? Where's the philosophy? If The Matrix is what you get from "a background in philosophy" then why didn't they use any of it in writing any of it? It's incoherent gibberish. The entire story arc was irrelevant. All the choices were false choices.

They don't have a background in philosophy btw, they dropped out of theater programs. The lack of philosophy background or understanding especially shows in V for Vendetta where they made something coherent and philosophical into a complete mess. They're so "philosophically" minded that they destroyed the internal allegory for a hamfisted political polemic trapped entirely in the moment it was made while also completely changing the characters and coming out in favor of something bad.

We're back to the thought terminating cliches they repeat, just spam how queer and philosophical it is to gatekeep anyone else from being able to write in the universe. Don't worry about having to identify any of this because you can just scream about it louder until the chuds stop with their annoying talking.

Ninja Assassin fucking SLAPS though. I guess they only produced it, but still.

[books]

The Matrix was a Kung fu movie distilled into palpable chunks for white cis folks. I remember seeing Crouching Toger Hodden Dragon in Central California opening weekend and people were laughing due to the "physics." A bit later, Matrix comes out and everyone is blown away and retroactively were like Hero and Crouching Tiger is cool.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

You know what philosophy The Matrix is a far closer to being allegory for than any of this nonsense? Thomas Szasz.

Updated with better video of glibness

[benji]

Remember that Bethesda lawsuit by the trans woman they were all talking about as if it was this horrible crime and how people needed to hang for it and how the cis didn't care and were ignoring the thread? Dismissed because the evidence showed it was the fault of the plaintiff not notifying people and Zenimax tried to reinstate the coverage anyway when notified. Which I'm pretty sure I made a Bore post about when reading the original filing.

[benji]

Remember that Bethesda lawsuit by the trans woman they were all talking about as if it was this horrible crime and how people needed to hang for it and how the cis didn't care and were ignoring the thread? Dismissed because the evidence showed it was the fault of the plaintiff not notifying people and Zenimax tried to reinstate the coverage anyway when notified. Which I'm pretty sure I made a Bore post about when reading the original filing.

More proof the cis don't care and we need to arm up instead of trying to get justice through the capitalist, colonialist and white supremacist legal system.

[Averon]

ERA is shocked that the "body positivity" movement's been co-opted by food corporations: https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-obesity-rises-big-food-and-dietitians-push-%E2%80%98anti-diet%E2%80%99-advice.833724/

If they were honest with themselves, this should be the least surprising thing ever.

[kaleidoscopium]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/page-54?post=121262514#post-121262514

[BIONIC]

ERA is shocked that the "body positivity" movement's been co-opted by food corporations: https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-obesity-rises-big-food-and-dietitians-push-%E2%80%98anti-diet%E2%80%99-advice.833724/

If they were honest with themselves, this should be the least surprising thing ever.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-107?post=121234401#post-121234401

Rowling didn't think she was hateful. She didn't think her opinions were harmful. When she was confronted with that, she couldn't come to terms with the fact that her already held beliefs were harmful, so instead of learning and growing, she doubled down on her already held beliefs as being completely reasonable and so the people trying to show otherwise were just trying to destroy her reputation with exaggeration or made up lies.

"Eating crackers".

These fuckers still haven't shown any evidence of actual harm other than some hurt feelings. If your hurt feelings are causing you to harm yourself, then I suggest working on your resilience. Legislating against hurt feelings is absurd.