Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Vertigo]

I have had to step back away from things a lot recently because sexy/sexual things don't really hit for me if you feel me.



That thread was wild as shit, because while I do fall on the "it's only a swimsuit" spectrum NORMALLY, it's because I'm ace, and not because I'm looking to justify underboob in Fortnite.



A general rule should be, regardless of all else, the moment underboob is involved the "it's just a swimsuit" is no longer valid.  I feel like that's a universal.

Hear that you fiends once underboob is involved all bets are off.

The "people wear swimsuits in real life" comments are crazy cus like… How do you not see the difference between a woman choosing to wear a swimsuit, and a designer(s) coming together and deciding that a character will wear the swimsuit. Like even if you don't see a problem with the Fortnite swimsuits, how are those a comparable situation?

Also at a real beach, you will see women of all shapes and sizes who do not exist as a product (for men).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-548#post-158006734

So artists are not even allowed to put characters in swimsuits now as its problematic?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/linus-torvalds-ai-is-a-tool-just-like-other-tools-we-use-and-its-clearly-a-useful-one.1578862/page-6#post-158012284

No one said that the Luddites' position was a panacea for humanities' ills, just that they were correct in their general assessment and moral framework.

Benji, this is one for the newsfeed and dossier.

Haha, fuck, the Luddites were fucking right! What a take!

[Potato]

Mfs bringing up their wives, friends, and siblings to justify shit is so tiring and transparent as fuck.

Especially because it's not like women can't and don't frequently have regressive views on things like beauty standards, their place in society, etc. Tons of women embody ideals that are patriarchal while believing them to be fully true and good, and mock and shame women who don't fit into their specific box of femininity - just ask literally any butch lesbian or even just tomboyish or androynous-presenting woman for how much they get stink-eyed and excluded from women's spaces and activities. Not to mention more extreme subcultures like tradwife and "wifemaxxing", as well as fucking terfs.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rant-im-sick-of-the-objectification-of-women-in-gaming.1577593/post-158013343

Finally, finally they're coming for the women 

Thank you for admitting you actually don't give a shit about what women think

And this coming from a RE member who most assuredly is trans

The only surprising part of that post is they didn't specify WHITE women.

[Boredfrom]

Its summer, beach bodies are in, we're all looking our best, I think this is great.

These are not real people, they don't feel sun on their skin, they don't swim in real water, stop equating Fortnite characters with real people, and please read through the thread.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-guess-even-fortnite-is-doing-more-bikini-type-skins-now.1577221/post-158005441

I like how they just endlessly repeat this argument as if it made much sense.

They got they wires crossed again:

How do you not see the difference between a woman choosing to wear a swimsuit, and a designer(s) coming together and deciding that a character will wear the swimsuit.

[Boredfrom]

That thread was wild as shit, because while I do fall on the "it's only a swimsuit" spectrum NORMALLY, it's because I'm ace,

You are a piece of shit, that’s what you are. The whole thread is plagued by scumbags because they don’t call this asshole off.

[DavidCroquet]

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What are we even talking about here. You'll seriously tell me if Nintendo next time does Zelda not only ass first, but nude all the time, that's not objectification? Is it because the female presenting, made up character, designed by a male, modelled by a male, critiqued and greenlit in a meeting of males and one bigger male with the last word really really wants to be nude?

Also, representation: Fortnite has no lack in female presenting store models. Quite the opposite, they basically take anyone. Oh an in the process making them all the same hot-perceived proportions with basically the same base body, legs for days and not a gram of realistic fat, basically Bruce Timm Harley for everyone. They even sexified cartoon characters like pomni from the digital circus.
But surely, I already hear someone, they also do that for the male characters because something something aiming fairness and Fuck no they don't. Those are muscular or fat or shlubby or skinny or big or small. On this thread alone we had homer next to John wick, heck, the same digital circus license brings a lanky tall bunny. Almost every female fortnite character has the same meticulously formed body type "hot" with different clothes. And I'm not talking "but Cammy has skin tight tights now", as if that really makes a difference.

Your entire argument has lost the plot of the game, or any game, honestly, and the world we live in, where almost everything, even dang advertisements for women's shower ware, is directed at the male gaze. And no, a huge dong in a famously interviewing game doesn't change this reality, even if it probably made said male meeting time laugh heartily for a minute.

Learning that BufBaf is a dude makes him far creepier, cuz now you just know he can't stop tugging his dick and makes it absolutely everyone else's problem. 

They absolutely did not,
They stretched her arms and legs so she fits the Fortnite rig/hit box that every skin uses

Its the reason big buff males look goofy because they are literally the same size as thin teenage girls in game

Oh bullshit. Since when does "stretching to fit hitbox" include stereotypical "hot legs" and realistically proportioning body, legs, arms, bust into a neat and very Fortnite hourglass figure for a character looking like this


Oh guess fucking what, in the EXACT SAME spot introducing sexy Pomni, they LITERALLY had this model all done and well designed for "a new hitbox".


which, coincidentally, is the exact same form that gets thrown in the battle bus as well. I can't wait for the hitbox related explanations for why she then looks like this


while the male character from the same show looks like this, and oh wow, he has neither weirdly sexy-coded proportions nor hot legs nor has he made smaller "to fit the hitbox".



I can't wait.

This gooner motherfucker is actually complaining about Pomni from the amazing digital circus. 

They give her human legs instead of spaghetti noodles, and he immediately needs to shout "IT'S BEEN SEXIFIED!" 

Bufbaf certainly was jerking to pomni before the sexy legs got added to the mix.

[Averon]

It's that same dumb argument they use to justify going bonkers when fictional characters looks sexy but at the same time is totally fine with real life women being sexy. It's so they can have their cake and eat it too. They can goon to sexy women guilt-free in their lesbian fetishes while also grandstand about how a fake, digital woman showing some cleavage sets women rights back 100 years.

[TylenolJones]

   

[Taco Bell Tower]

These are not real people, they don't feel sun on their skin, they don't swim in real water, stop equating Fortnite characters with real people, and please read through the thread.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-guess-even-fortnite-is-doing-more-bikini-type-skins-now.1577221/post-158005441

I like how they just endlessly repeat this argument as if it made much sense.

They got they wires crossed again:

How do you not see the difference between a woman choosing to wear a swimsuit, and a designer(s) coming together and deciding that a character will wear the swimsuit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/

[HaughtyFrank]

It's that same dumb argument they use to justify going bonkers when fictional characters looks sexy but at the same time is totally fine with real life women being sexy. It's so they can have their cake and eat it too. They can goon to sexy women guilt-free in their lesbian fetishes while also grandstand about how a fake, digital woman showing some cleavage sets women rights back 100 years.

No, you see when Sabrina Carpenter wears tiny shorts in videos and jiggles her ass it's solely because she felt like wearing those that day and there's zero financial incentive for her to do so.

(What's funny is that they do start freaking out again when it's too much implied that this one is aimed at men, like when Carpenter had that doggy leash on the album cover)

[HaughtyFrank]

I'd say that Fortnite thread is a very useful example of the unique type of misogyny you tend to see in 'progressive' spaces that are dominated by men who need to look for woke reasons why it's okay to not care about women's issues.

Guy who thinks 'the Fortnite battle pass bikini skins are a brave stance against sex negative puritanism' is certainly a type of guy you wouldn't see in too many other places.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/post-157985842

Okay, so not actually misogyny at all?

It's crazy how they can't handle someone saying "Its just a bikini".

[Boredfrom]

Its such an absurd defense. Having to point out that women are real people who can choose what they wear compared to a fictional character who was made that way.....
Like, for them to think its a good defense is just baffling.
Putting women and fictional characters on the same level, its madness

I agree… that’s why it drives me crazy in how you guys use it like all the time. 

“A fictional woman cannot consent.”  

No shit, then why the fuck are you mad about it? She cannot consent because she doesn’t exist and cannot affect any one directly.

You are also the first ones that bitch when an outfit is not practical.

“High heels are uncomfortable. Breast plate is unrealistic.”

But then…

“Being this buff is absurd in the post apocalypse.” “Women soldiers were not prominent during the WW2.”

And you go batshit crazy.

At one point you guys will need to admit that you guys either hate this stuff to the point of encouraging banning it or all of this is a performance act to not get called out at BluSky.

“Is a fantasy game, we can do whatever you like”.  

*Woman with an hourglass figure and leotard fighting monsters*

“Not like that”  

Do your own game, then.

“Okay.”

Doesn’t sell.

“Is all the fault of the Gachas and the Jews.”

[Boredfrom]

Then I swear anime art gacha only got away with it because they are more 2D than realistic so she could be 14 y.o. to like 20 y.o. based on the art styles unless it comes up in the story like if it's set in HS.

I'd say they got away with it because for the longest time, the general gaming community turned up their noses at the very idea of mobile gaming, which basically led to an out of sight out of mind situation where rampant monetization and designs objectifying women festered to a level where they drowned out almost everything else in the mobile gaming space.

Since gachas are now making the leap to consoles and all the companies want a slice of the live service pie, we're now seeing the preferences of the mobile market bleed into everything else.

 

People still bitch about mobile gaming and half of ERA hates gacha (while playing Gacha  ). What changed then? Why the gamers are getting horny again? 

Unless… those gachas games were already console/pc friendly enough to get in that market and gamers having not problem with smut. Almost like those prohibitions are imposed by clueless execs and policies from nanny state governments.

[HaughtyFrank]

They seem to have moved from "too many developers create sexualized women" to "too many people like games with sexualized women"

[Boredfrom]

They seem to have moved from "too many developers create sexualized women" to "too many people like games with sexualized women"

I think they just realized that they are stuck with the Gamer crowd. The blue ocean of mobile gaming ended with live service dominance*, the indie scene become saturated and are less Phil Fishes in the open, console gaming carter to the young adult and middle age demographic while the kids playing with PC still into Roblox and Minecraft (and then they start playing gacha   ).

They are also surprised that ERA has CHUD like opinions when is probably just what every normal person thinks. Like, “who the fuck cares that they selling bikinis at Fortnite?” is not a CHUD opinion. 


*Depending of your mobile ecosystem of choice, some games are genuinely unplayable anymore, so is not surprising it gravitated to live service.

[Boredfrom]

In the end, you ended with gamers being your audience. Congrats.

[D3RANG3D]

So much for gamers being over or whatever... 

[jimmys13]

Most AI boosters talk like sexual predators and don't seem to realize it. Or they do and don't care/like that.

No context required.

[benji]

I can see y'all men are willfully not getting it and I have to once again explain basic human decency to y'all:
1. You need to be mad about this.
2. You need to be mad that other people are not mad about this.
3. You need to be mad that other people are not as mad about both as you.

Seriously, do better.

[Orange Juice Box]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-of-you-dont-realize-how-much-of-a-problem-something-the-success-of-michael-is.1578754/page-2#post-158011345

I do my part by always mentioning that he was a pedophile every time I talk about his music and dance numbers.

From the 90's through 2000's I don't think I ever had a conversation about Michael Jackson without someone making a pedo joke.  And then there were some jokes in 2009 when he died from too much of Doc Conrad's special milk.  But after the final shit on his grave who cared?

The narcissistic, by-proxy, victims of Era did. They somehow imagine he was a celebrated champion instead of a late-night staple punchline on a slow night. 



The horror, the horror. 

They are like the theater kids in highschool that pretend to be the most sad when some random minority teen dies in a DUI.  In 10 years they will pretend the world ignored Cosby and Epstien and pretend they were proxy victims who tried to stop the abuse.

[Uncle]

From the 90's through 2000's I don't think I ever had a conversation about Michael Jackson without someone making a pedo joke.  And then there were some jokes in 2009 when he died from too much of Doc Conrad's special milk.  But after the final shit on his grave who cared?

I randomly watched this the other day, and yeah, at 3:40

[Orange Juice Box]

Its summer, beach bodies are in, we're all looking our best, I think this is great.

These are not real people, they don't feel sun on their skin, they don't swim in real water, stop equating Fortnite characters with real people, and please read through the thread.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-guess-even-fortnite-is-doing-more-bikini-type-skins-now.1577221/post-158005441

I like how they just endlessly repeat this argument as if it made much sense.

Of course it makes sense.  Forty people who discuss nothing but perceived pedophilic imagery on the back of cereal boxes for the past 7 years and don't allow outsiders to comment have decided it. This is all that matters and exists in their world!  How could they be wrong about it?  Were the Japanese holdout soldiers of WW2 wrong or were they the most right of all?

[Boredfrom]

its such a fucking pain being a knicks fan. even when we win, it still feels gross because of the piece of shit owner ruining everything. this surveillance apparatus should be illegal.

i hate supporting him and im probably just gonna only watch them live during away games. shit, might actually be cheaper even with the hotel and airfare.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/madison-square-garden’s-surveillance-system-is-compiling-a-database-to-track-lgbtqia-people-and-others-wired.1579867/#post-158034376

I feel I little sorry for Effingvic, he was so happy when the Nicks won.

[Potato]

Every time I'm reading that Fortnite thread and basically confront myself with the "are we the baddies" meme, it's so nice being able to hop in this one and realize no, it's actually the children who are wrong.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/post-158022115

Congrats, you admitted you're an idiot in an echo chamber

Gotta be an (not so) elaborate troll. Surely no one is that retarded.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/there%E2%80%99s-one-thing-the-opening-of-ocarina-of-time-remake-has-to-nail.1579789/

At the beginning of the story, the Great Deku Tree is the first character you’re properly introduced to

And that’s why his death hits hard.

He along with Saria are implied to be the only ones who treated Link well.

Link lost his father figure and you the player lost the first thing that connected you to this world.

“Although your valiant efforts to break the curse were successful, I was doomed before you started.” hit 10 year old me like an absolute truck.

So yeah, really curious to see how they’ll do it

[Boredfrom]

They just need to maintain the creepy shit in the new art style and not pussy out. 

I want a hyper realistic Gold Skulltula family.

[Potato]

It's that same dumb argument they use to justify going bonkers when fictional characters looks sexy but at the same time is totally fine with real life women being sexy. It's so they can have their cake and eat it too. They can goon to sexy women guilt-free in their lesbian fetishes while also grandstand about how a fake, digital woman showing some cleavage sets women rights back 100 years.

No, you see when Sabrina Carpenter wears tiny shorts in videos and jiggles her ass it's solely because she felt like wearing those that day and there's zero financial incentive for her to do so.

(What's funny is that they do start freaking out again when it's too much implied that this one is aimed at men, like when Carpenter had that doggy leash on the album cover)

Women can wear whatever they want, as long as they aren't doing it to attract make attention...then they're whores and should be branded with a scarlet letter. Fuck men, amirite?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

It's that same dumb argument they use to justify going bonkers when fictional characters looks sexy but at the same time is totally fine with real life women being sexy. It's so they can have their cake and eat it too. They can goon to sexy women guilt-free in their lesbian fetishes while also grandstand about how a fake, digital woman showing some cleavage sets women rights back 100 years.

No, you see when Sabrina Carpenter wears tiny shorts in videos and jiggles her ass it's solely because she felt like wearing those that day and there's zero financial incentive for her to do so.

(What's funny is that they do start freaking out again when it's too much implied that this one is aimed at men, like when Carpenter had that doggy leash on the album cover)

Women can wear whatever they want, as long as they aren't doing it to attract make attention...then they're whores and should be branded with a scarlet letter. Fuck men, amirite?

Women can wear whatever they want for the gaze of trans lesbians and other wlw sapphic enjoyers*

cis and trans men need not apply*

[Potato]

its such a fucking pain being a knicks fan. even when we win, it still feels gross because of the piece of shit owner ruining everything. this surveillance apparatus should be illegal.

i hate supporting him and im probably just gonna only watch them live during away games. shit, might actually be cheaper even with the hotel and airfare.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/madison-square-garden’s-surveillance-system-is-compiling-a-database-to-track-lgbtqia-people-and-others-wired.1579867/#post-158034376

I feel I little sorry for Effingvic, he was so happy when the Nicks won.

That "and others" is doing some heavy lifting in the thread title.

Edit: The only reference to LGBT is to say that some gay celebrities had been given LGBT+ tags on the database. 

There's a bunch of marketing reasons for tagging the celebs you track like that if you're in the events business.

Rappers being tagged as "medium risk" surely isn't controversial either given the general lyrical content of most rap music.

[Orange Juice Box]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/linus-torvalds-ai-is-a-tool-just-like-other-tools-we-use-and-its-clearly-a-useful-one.1578862/page-6#post-158012284

No one said that the Luddites' position was a panacea for humanities' ills, just that they were correct in their general assessment and moral framework.

Nobody said they they solved everything, they only said they were right about everything