Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[NekoFever]

From the J K Rowling thread:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-93#post-114445436

That tweet is absolutely disgusting on so many levels. Besides calling trans people rapists, it also makes fun of many trans people for choosing an avatar that represents them while protecting their identity

 How the fuck does an ANIME NUN represent a transwoman? 

Nowhere in that tweet does she in any way suggest that all trans women are rapists. This is basic reading comprehension.

But watch as it becomes unquestionable dogma that she says all trans women are rapists.

This reply

Accusing someone of being a bloodthirsty genocidal monster without evidence is libel, yes, hence the carefully worded apologies that occasionally appear on the Twitter accounts of the ones who step too far over the line.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

That's it!

I'm buying the first Robert Galbraith's, aka Joanne's alter ego, "The Cuckoo's Calling".

 And it's Android Sophia's fault.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF FASH CHUD, ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS GUY WAS SUS

No, but seriously CHUDbama, what did I do?

Lol they're trying to blame this on Brie and some non-existing hate campaign against her. 
Brie played a pretty big role in Fast X (both the movie and promotions) and that did just fine.

If only Iman was unleashed to promote the film! Then it would have been an enormous success like when she was out there promoting Ms. Marvel!

What reaction did "the chuds" have to Mario?

Um, it's helmed by the CHUDmaster himself, Chris(tian) Pratt? CHUDs were probably half the audience...

[Polident]

So, get on with it? Nothing is stopping him if he believes that.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

As I said before, I live in a very Jewish neighborhood so naturally there's a lot of pro-Israel stuff, even posters of the hostages and Israeli national colored ribbons wrapped around the trees. When I was walking the dog with my mom, she brought up an interesting point. With pro-Israel being considered the default opinion in the neighborhood, it would probably make Muslim or Palestinian residents feel uncomfortable. It's a difficult line to balance on with the culturally Jewish life potentially clashing with a Muslim minority. Now there hasn't been any real problems thankfully. There was one time a mural depicting a Muslim woman was vandalized with a Star of David graffiti over her face, but otherwise there hasn't been anything severe. Nonetheless, it paints an important part of the spectrum where nuance is generally avoided out of fear. There's definitely a post-9/11 sentiment of sorts going around here and I hope it doesn't worsen.

I live in a Jewish neighborhood where people are mourning the loss of life, and nothing else of note has happened outside of one single incident. It's post-9/11 all over again!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-2-tapping-the-sign.768689/post-114463202

[Polident]

it would probably make Muslim or Palestinian residents feel uncomfortable.

They actually don’t know any Muslims. It’s all hypothetical. Unreal.

[Besticus Maximus]

So weird how they go on about Islam. Aren't you supposed to be a left wing forum? Do you understand that half of that is secularism? For fucks sake lads

[Potato]

And staning for the objectively worst religion when it comes to equality for women is some serious 

[Snoopy]

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Muhammad_Pedophile/3540512088

One Morrigan's favourite bands? 

They say Morrigan has been spotted roaming Gaza like a feral Rambo

[benji]

Nowhere in that tweet does she in any way suggest that all trans women are rapists. This is basic reading comprehension.

But watch as it becomes unquestionable dogma that she says all trans women are rapists.

This reply

https://twitter.com/ZoeyAshley73/status/1720799546903548192

Accusing someone of being a bloodthirsty genocidal monster without evidence is libel, yes, hence the carefully worded apologies that occasionally appear on the Twitter accounts of the ones who step too far over the line.

No, the idiot is asking if Joanne's tweet is libel. Morons (the type who take disinformation from Caraballo as legal truths) agree:

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There's even multiple people saying she probably has child porn on her computer.

[Polident]

The sad thing is there had been examples of reasonably secular Islam. In Iran, Lebanon, and elsewhere. Hardcore fundamentalists showed up, unironically comprised of young men angry at women succeeding in a liberal society, and turned them into conservative hyper patriarchies.

Is that exclusive to Islam? That’s a can of worms, but I’d say no. Difference is when there’s a Westboro or whatever other religious nut jobs, most people can tell them off. With Islam and western nations, they’re afraid of sounding racist. Or guilt over 2000s wars in the Middle East. It’s so weird. Westerners were more upset over France wanting to ban hijabs than they were about Iran’s morality police brutalizing young girls for refusing to cover their hair.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Joanne will be sure to show them what true libel is if they keep going with the CP narrative 

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I will not lose out on those iphone likes

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You are the real superhero!

[benji]

The sad thing is there had been examples of reasonably secular Islam. In Iran, Lebanon, and elsewhere. Hardcore fundamentalists showed up, unironically comprised of young men angry at women succeeding in a liberal society, and turned them into conservative hyper patriarchies.

Is that exclusive to Islam? That’s a can of worms, but I’d say no. Difference is when there’s a Westboro or whatever other religious nut jobs, most people can tell them off. With Islam and western nations, they’re afraid of sounding racist. Or guilt over 2000s wars in the Middle East. It’s so weird. Westerners were more upset over France wanting to ban hijabs than they were about Iran’s morality police brutalizing young girls for refusing to cover their hair.

They unironically believe every false narrative chuds (and chud-adjacents) come up with and reflexively embrace the counterposition as rebellion against it. "This is a white Judeo-Christian nation!" So as long as it's not white or Judeo-Christian it's now in solidarity as resistance. "No Sharia Law!" Wow, I totally love Sharia Law now. "America is awesome!" America is the worst in all ways, anywhere else (but Israel maybe) is better. "I'm convinced, we should look at the content of one's character rather than the color of the skin." Shut the fuck up, skin color is most important! "You're right, boys can play with dolls and like ribbon dancing if they want." Fuck you, she's a girl! "Overcoming mental illness is ideal, deliberate helpless wallowing sucks!" FFFFFUUUUCCCCKKKKK OOOOFFFFOOOOOFFFFFF

[AldusMoneyPenny]

The sad thing is there had been examples of reasonably secular Islam. In Iran, Lebanon, and elsewhere. Hardcore fundamentalists showed up, unironically comprised of young men angry at women succeeding in a liberal society, and turned them into conservative hyper patriarchies.

Is that exclusive to Islam? That’s a can of worms, but I’d say no. Difference is when there’s a Westboro or whatever other religious nut jobs, most people can tell them off. With Islam and western nations, they’re afraid of sounding racist. Or guilt over 2000s wars in the Middle East. It’s so weird. Westerners were more upset over France wanting to ban hijabs than they were about Iran’s morality police brutalizing young girls for refusing to cover their hair.

They unironically believe every false narrative chuds (and chud-adjacents) come up with and reflexively embrace the counterposition as rebellion against it. "This is a white Judeo-Christian nation!" So as long as it's not white or Judeo-Christian it's now in solidarity as resistance. "No Sharia Law!" Wow, I totally love Sharia Law now. "America is awesome!" America is the worst in all ways, anywhere else (but Israel maybe) is better. "I'm convinced, we should look at the content of one's character rather than the color of the skin." Shut the fuck up, skin color is most important! "You're right, boys can play with dolls and like ribbon dancing if they want." Fuck you, she's a girl! "Overcoming mental illness is ideal, deliberate helpless wallowing sucks!" FFFFFUUUUCCCCKKKKK OOOOFFFFOOOOOFFFFFF

Sharia Law demands you pre-order advance tickets to The Marvels, coming November 10 to a theater near you!

[Polident]

Now, I don’t think America or the west is objectively the best system. And it’s often evident these guys don’t have great relationships with their parents. But sometimes second generation types should ask why their parents decided to raise them in God’s Freedom Lands.

I’ll give that many tend to have identity struggles. No connection to their homeland or its culture. That’s partly why they resent their parents and the west. Like they feel robbed. Like had they been raised elsewhere, they wouldn’t be losers. But once they hit 18, nothing is stopping them from giving it a go.

There’s actually a country that offers a free birthright trip to the land of its religious diaspora. The name escapes me at the moment. Other countries, like Palestine, could ask them for tips on how to set something like that up for its diaspora.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Mr. Beast thread has slightly fewer miserable cunts than usual, but they are starting to come out of the woodwork!
First are the ones angry he said "in Africa" rather than name the country (he did it in 4 countries)
Next are the ones questioning whether he did the wells correctly (they have no fucking clue and probably didn't watch the video or spend a single minute trying to find out)

Have fun!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mr-beast-builds-100-wells-in-africa.781940/

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Surprised first post hasn't been actioned for being slightly funny.

[Eric Cartman]

The sad thing is there had been examples of reasonably secular Islam. In Iran, Lebanon, and elsewhere. Hardcore fundamentalists showed up, unironically comprised of young men angry at women succeeding in a liberal society, and turned them into conservative hyper patriarchies.

Is that exclusive to Islam? That’s a can of worms, but I’d say no. Difference is when there’s a Westboro or whatever other religious nut jobs, most people can tell them off. With Islam and western nations, they’re afraid of sounding racist. Or guilt over 2000s wars in the Middle East. It’s so weird. Westerners were more upset over France wanting to ban hijabs than they were about Iran’s morality police brutalizing young girls for refusing to cover their hair.

They unironically believe every false narrative chuds (and chud-adjacents) come up with and reflexively embrace the counterposition as rebellion against it. "This is a white Judeo-Christian nation!" So as long as it's not white or Judeo-Christian it's now in solidarity as resistance. "No Sharia Law!" Wow, I totally love Sharia Law now. "America is awesome!" America is the worst in all ways, anywhere else (but Israel maybe) is better. "I'm convinced, we should look at the content of one's character rather than the color of the skin." Shut the fuck up, skin color is most important! "You're right, boys can play with dolls and like ribbon dancing if they want." Fuck you, she's a girl! "Overcoming mental illness is ideal, deliberate helpless wallowing sucks!" FFFFFUUUUCCCCKKKKK OOOOFFFFOOOOOFFFFFF

Oppositional defiance is no small part of it, but I think more fundamentally its a question of authority.
An ideologue will always be prepared to shout down anyone who is less of an extremist, because they have an authority that permits them to do that.
"By what right do you say I am wrong? I point to my Authority who tells me my actions are correct, what do you have? Your own agency? Your own personal morality? I have an AUTHORITY deeming my words and actions correct!"
Its a veneer of objectivity to make the unacceptable acceptable, because The Ideology matters more than the real human beings affected by it.

It's also by no means solely the domain of the religious - longterm lurkers here have seen just as much zealotry from secular causes; sometimes even more so.
I can't help but feel the moment you stop thinking about people as people, but as pawns in service to (or against) a greater belief - that Ideology - is where you start becoming an extremist.
And it cant be denied that the seduction that you no longer have to grapple with questions of ethics or individuality because you have The Authority telling you what is verboten can be a powerful appeal.

Also,

[benji]

Have fun!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mr-beast-builds-100-wells-in-africa.781940/

As cool as it is, I hope that youtubers are having a net positive on the aid reaching these places. I'd hate to see people stop giving to charities because they think "Mr Beast's got this".

Ultimately, taxes should be doing this, but instead it's for dropping bombs and subsidizing corporations.

Rich people should be doing this via governments.

The money he makes from these philanthropy videos goes back into future projects but the rest is funded by donations be it viewer or corporations.

The money he makes from his normal channel goes into more videos and ventures like beast burger etc.

Not all his philanthropy projects have turned out to be great either. Like the plastic removal one is pathetic and removes such a small amount it makes little difference. A lot of funding came from the corporations responsible for the pollution in the first place. It's more of an excuse companies can point at to say they're eco friendly instead of fixing the root cause of the pollution.

Bingo. We have enough resources globally that a fair tax system would guarantee humane living conditions to all.

While it's the end result that counts - i think it's still fair to keep in mind that what made Mr. Beast rich are exactly the kind of capitalistic structures that drain the African content of its wealth and ability to self sustain a lot better than it currently can.

Like, "people with no access to clean water" in Africa and Mr. Beast being able to fly in and be their white saviour are symptoms of the same systemic problem.

I feel like Mr. Beast exists as a way for capitalism to pat itself on the back for slightly counteracting problems that are either directly caused by, or made worse by capitalism.

I'd sooner we lived in a world where obscenely rich people didn't exist and countries had the resources to build their own wells

This dude can do charitable things. This dude can ALSO wash his image via philanthrocapitalism and make more money than he puts into it at the same time. And it works extremely well, even in liberal spaces. There's a fair amount of "shame on you" reactions for having a problem with him in his threads.

I can't shake the feeling that there is something wrong with doing this kind of stuff for clicks. Even if the argument is that the clicks generate the revenue that makes this possible.

Thank you for asking important, intelligent question. All acts of charity (especially ones that get turned into PR stunts) deserve skepticism if only so we can be sure people are actually being helped. Just because it's "charity" doesn't mean it can't be done wrong or that the net result can't be that it helped one rich guy's reputation more than it actually helped 100 communities.

They get so fucking mad at people doing anything that benefits everyone involved.

Also love that they want a global central planning system that taxes them massively to dump the remains after global bureaucratic skimming on things in the rest of the world, enjoy no more MCU product and leaving notes telling waitresses why you cut into her tip on your $50 meal!

[Nintex]

What surprises me more is that after so many billions in charity they still can't built their own wells in Africa and a fucking YouToober has to do it.

[Uncle]

"Yes, hello, police? The Harry Potter author has posted something on Twitter I did not like. There must be some law you can use to harass a woman with the state for speaking in ways a man doesn't like."

Any comment Nepenthe and others?

I mean, it is the UK, they do regularly arrest people for posting mean things on Twitter.


Edit: Beaten by a Swede.

[Eric Cartman]

Like, "people with no access to clean water" in Africa and Mr. Beast being able to fly in and be their white saviour are symptoms of the same systemic problem.

I would like them to find a single fucking person on the entire continent who no longer has to walk a 10 miles round trip daily to fucking survive, and is also now probably not getting cholera or going blind who is going to go "Bu-BU-BUT WHITE SAVIOUR TROPE?!?"

[Uncle]

 How the fuck does an ANIME NUN represent a transwoman? 

"cute, sweet, young, flawless skin" anime represents idealized femininity to them, in a way that it absolutely never does to natal women

[AldusMoneyPenny]

If only governments could find the amount of moneythat a YouTuber can spend on a single video - too bad! Surely raising taxes will get us over the hump and those essential services will finally be taken care of.

[Uncle]

This isn't just a massive bomb for a marvel movie, it's a massive bomb full stop.

I agree that it looks hilariously bad and you can probably predict performance from the pre-sale numbers, but I still don't want to count chickens before they're hatched

I'm not some movie analysis guy, don't know what seat maps usually look like for this kind of thing this far out

just don't want to get all hyped up for a flop and then it does reasonably well anyway due to public curiosity from all the bad press 

[benji]

If only governments could find the amount of moneythat a YouTuber can spend on a single video - too bad! Surely raising taxes will get us over the hump and those essential services will finally be taken care of.

I don't think you understand the problem: not enough taxes on Americans and Europeans to raise money that is given directly to African governments with no strings attached. Once the taxes are high enough on the former then the latter can build a few hundred wells. The lack of the latter proves the taxes on the former are not high enough yet.

Although this entire scheme is itself somewhat problematic because it promotes the White Savior trope. It would be better if the African nations were cut off completely aside from the money drops.

[Nintex]

Like, "people with no access to clean water" in Africa and Mr. Beast being able to fly in and be their white saviour are symptoms of the same systemic problem.

I would like them to find a single fucking person on the entire continent who no longer has to walk a 10 miles round trip daily to fucking survive, and is also now probably not getting cholera or going blind who is going to go "Bu-BU-BUT WHITE SAVIOUR TROPE?!?"

That's basically how they always respond

[Snoopy]

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A disgusting weegie immigrant complaining about other immigrants 



He’s probably got 50 Celtic flags draped round his car

[AldusMoneyPenny]

If only governments could find the amount of moneythat a YouTuber can spend on a single video - too bad! Surely raising taxes will get us over the hump and those essential services will finally be taken care of.

I don't think you understand the problem: not enough taxes on Americans and Europeans to raise money that is given directly to African governments with no strings attached. Once the taxes are high enough on the former then the latter can build a few hundred wells. The lack of the latter proves the taxes on the former are not high enough yet.

Although this entire scheme is itself somewhat problematic because it promotes the White Savior trope. It would be better if the African nations were cut off completely aside from the money drops.

Gonna hang back and wait for NepNep to wake up from their nap to drop some knowledge in the thread first so I know what opinion to have