Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Polident]

How awesome is western civilization that there’s the expectation of providing every ethnicity and religion an equal voice? Sure isn’t the case anywhere else. Imagine complaining that Al Jazeera is silencing Jewish voices. Or RT is silencing American voices. 

There’s that other piece on a sociopath complaining about having white coworkers in the UK. That is unheard of anywhere else.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-300#post-115683057

Assuming this isn't some AI monstrosity, I guess the artist wanted to get the monster musume crowd with this but really doesn't know horse anatomy and didn't even feel like trying. "It's just two sets of lady legs right? I'll just add a little something to give the illusion there's a body between the legs. Also, I'll make her look human from the front. Easier for me and it'll just be another lady. Win-win"

"NSFW"

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MOD EDIT: TRYING TO CONTAIN ELDRITCH ABOMINATION

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-300#post-115683057

Assuming this isn't some AI monstrosity, I guess the artist wanted to get the monster musume crowd with this but really doesn't know horse anatomy and didn't even feel like trying. "It's just two sets of lady legs right? I'll just add a little something to give the illusion there's a body between the legs. Also, I'll make her look human from the front. Easier for me and it'll just be another lady. Win-win"

"NSFW"

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MOD EDIT: TRYING TO CONTAIN ELDRITCH ABOMINATION

Dat horse got a front cunt. The burka people aren't wrong on this one

[benji]

Oh shit, that super tiny Chinese developer with a history of stealing art did some lazy ass art in their f2p idle game? Fuck, I hate capitalism and the gaming industry so much. This is why we can't have nice real lesbian things.

[benji]

TBT letting me down by not quoting the actual shit happening in that thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/post-115693401

You know a design is really bad when more than a dozen lurkers come out of hiding to clown on it.

Or I have to make a new rule for the thread. (Honestly should apply to the forum in general but what is our NSFW policy? LOL)

Lol. As a forum? Inconsistent at best lol

But I feel this thread, in particular, needs to be a bit more lax since people never engage unless they see a horrible image lol. Picture is worth a thousand words reigns supreme in this thread it seems

Uh, the horrible centaur pic is it's own things though as it was NSFL lol

Honestly, posting pics with appropriate tags from a game that people on here have actually have played is fine. (As long as it isn't a banned game or so bad that it would be banned from discussion.)

As a thread/community we need to do better than, "Hey, check out this disgusting/questionable/offensive design I found from a game I will never play." This shouldn't be a NSFW Show and No Tell thread. Otherwise we get what we got last page, eldritch abomination that that ten billion people quoted in order to react to.

But yeah, the forum as a whole is super inconsistent with NSFW stuff. Personally, I'm fine with NSFW (within reason) shit in this thread if it is for the purposes of generating a discussion. There needs to be merit. Beyond shock and awe points of course. This thread is inherently NSFW and it always will be and I can live with that, but that doesn't mean it needs to be Super NSFW or look like a sketchy image board.

Also the rule isn't don't ever quote a post with an image, just if there's any doubt then just remove it. If people want context, they have a link to the post in question. Though honestly the problem would be mitigated if everyone was better about NSFW tags in the first place but I digress.

[benji]

Also this is happening too:

A very important consideration to take into account is that depending on the circumstances, like say Bayonetta, a common defence of the clearly "Writer's barely disguised fetish" aspect was

"hEy HoLd Up tHeRE, DiD U kNow the ChaRacteR IllUStratOR WAs A WOMAN?????? CHEckMate"

As if a woman who's being instructed by a man because you know, it's her job to design things per the ideas she's been presented with makes the objectification exempt from criticism.

100%.

Not to mention what happens to women that disagree with men's instructions or, god forbid, criticize them. Getting hired in the first place already involves several filters, and a lot of these filters can be "random dude that will stomp on your career if he feels you disagreed with him too much".

Female designers in the industry are already much more likely to go along with such stuff, or be more fine with it, because those that aren't are often filtered out before they even get to work on big projects.

The industry, the way it's set up, does a ton of pre-selection there. It

A good example would be one of the designers for Rivet being harassed because she revealed that she spoke up and talked about how it would be ridiculous for the character to be sexualized in anyway.

Great example too, with how absurd the harassy reaction was.

I really wish the gaming community wasn't just so prone to go full harassment mode the moment a woman speaks up about literally anything. But then in some cases even just making a game about depression is "enough" of a reason for too many. :/

Yeah, imagine a gaming community that goes full harassment mode on women who just want to play Hogfart's Legaycy or put high heels on their character in Diablo or...

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I like how Crossing Eden's UbiSoft shilling extends to British spelling of words.

[Echelon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-300#post-115683057

Assuming this isn't some AI monstrosity, I guess the artist wanted to get the monster musume crowd with this but really doesn't know horse anatomy and didn't even feel like trying. "It's just two sets of lady legs right? I'll just add a little something to give the illusion there's a body between the legs. Also, I'll make her look human from the front. Easier for me and it'll just be another lady. Win-win"

"NSFW"

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MOD EDIT: TRYING TO CONTAIN ELDRITCH ABOMINATION

Women these days can't be fucked to put on pants, while this bitch is clipping stockings to garters on her hind legs. This is some ultra girl power shit. Very inspiring!

[benji]

The silencing of Muslim and Arab voices across Western media and the blatantly biased coverage on Palestine is unprecedented. The speed at which the establishment in Western society has embraced fascism is a warning signal for those of us who live here. The democracy and human rights brand is a facade. We are seeing their true face now.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ongoing-israel-palestine-conflict-news-thread-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/post-115727436

First of all, cancel culture doesn't exist, but also, I think western media has been critical of Israel? Do they want CNN to just yell genocide and say that anything Israel claims is a lie?

this is just so fucking boring

I have read nearly identical messages for the last decade

if the current state of things is what it's like to live under the true face of fascism and ongoing mass genocides, I will be the first to say that life like this is pretty good and seems preferable to a lot of other circumstances

I like the "The speed at which the establishment in Western society has embraced fascism is a warning signal for those of us who live here" part like this dude never noticed how pro-Israel and anti-terrorist-groups things were before 2023.

[Boredfrom]

1701575941[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-300#post-115683057

Assuming this isn't some AI monstrosity, I guess the artist wanted to get the monster musume crowd with this but really doesn't know horse anatomy and didn't even feel like trying. "It's just two sets of lady legs right? I'll just add a little something to give the illusion there's a body between the legs. Also, I'll make her look human from the front. Easier for me and it'll just be another lady. Win-win"

"NSFW"

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MOD EDIT: TRYING TO CONTAIN ELDRITCH ABOMINATION

You all should stick with Superior South Korean developer and Sony Second Party studio: Shift Up

[HaughtyFrank]

Also this is happening too:

A very important consideration to take into account is that depending on the circumstances, like say Bayonetta, a common defence of the clearly "Writer's barely disguised fetish" aspect was

"hEy HoLd Up tHeRE, DiD U kNow the ChaRacteR IllUStratOR WAs A WOMAN?????? CHEckMate"

As if a woman who's being instructed by a man because you know, it's her job to design things per the ideas she's been presented with makes the objectification exempt from criticism.

100%.

Not to mention what happens to women that disagree with men's instructions or, god forbid, criticize them. Getting hired in the first place already involves several filters, and a lot of these filters can be "random dude that will stomp on your career if he feels you disagreed with him too much".

Female designers in the industry are already much more likely to go along with such stuff, or be more fine with it, because those that aren't are often filtered out before they even get to work on big projects.

The industry, the way it's set up, does a ton of pre-selection there. It

A good example would be one of the designers for Rivet being harassed because she revealed that she spoke up and talked about how it would be ridiculous for the character to be sexualized in anyway.

Great example too, with how absurd the harassy reaction was.

I really wish the gaming community wasn't just so prone to go full harassment mode the moment a woman speaks up about literally anything. But then in some cases even just making a game about depression is "enough" of a reason for too many. :/

Yeah, imagine a gaming community that goes full harassment mode on women who just want to play Hogfart's Legaycy or put high heels on their character in Diablo or...

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

I like how Crossing Eden's UbiSoft shilling extends to British spelling of words.

Pretty sure Crossing Eden is getting the story wrong. Sam Maggs, famous for "I was raped in GTA online", talked about how Rivet in Ratchet and Clank came to be and basically attacked her former colleagues by talking about how they at one point had concept art where Rivet looked different and also had some perceptible boobs. Her and her clique then threw tantrums in the office until they got their way
 At one point a female dev from Insomniac spoke up and talked about how Sam Maggs made everyone at the office uncomfortable and how the concept art of Rivet was actually perfectly fine. Oh and she also tried to take credit for coming up with Rivet's name while she actually didn't. It's all documented here https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/s/ZweIgaOIrw

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Boredfrom]

1701577331[/url]']
Also this is happening too:

A very important consideration to take into account is that depending on the circumstances, like say Bayonetta, a common defence of the clearly "Writer's barely disguised fetish" aspect was

"hEy HoLd Up tHeRE, DiD U kNow the ChaRacteR IllUStratOR WAs A WOMAN?????? CHEckMate"

As if a woman who's being instructed by a man because you know, it's her job to design things per the ideas she's been presented with makes the objectification exempt from criticism.

100%.

Not to mention what happens to women that disagree with men's instructions or, god forbid, criticize them. Getting hired in the first place already involves several filters, and a lot of these filters can be "random dude that will stomp on your career if he feels you disagreed with him too much".

Female designers in the industry are already much more likely to go along with such stuff, or be more fine with it, because those that aren't are often filtered out before they even get to work on big projects.

The industry, the way it's set up, does a ton of pre-selection there. It

A good example would be one of the designers for Rivet being harassed because she revealed that she spoke up and talked about how it would be ridiculous for the character to be sexualized in anyway.

Great example too, with how absurd the harassy reaction was.

I really wish the gaming community wasn't just so prone to go full harassment mode the moment a woman speaks up about literally anything. But then in some cases even just making a game about depression is "enough" of a reason for too many. :/

Yeah, imagine a gaming community that goes full harassment mode on women who just want to play Hogfart's Legaycy or put high heels on their character in Diablo or...

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

I like how Crossing Eden's UbiSoft shilling extends to British spelling of words.

A lot of female Japanese artists dont really give a fuck about all this character design wise. You can totally blame in how weird Japan can be, but ton of female Japanese creators intentionally create lewd stuff and not just for corporate commissions. Doesn’t mean they have internalized misogyny, but for many their priorities lay elsewhere than be in perpetual gender wars with random at social media like many aspiring western artists.

[Taco Bell Tower]

TBT letting me down by not quoting the actual shit happening in that thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/post-115693401

You know a design is really bad when more than a dozen lurkers come out of hiding to clown on it.

Or I have to make a new rule for the thread. (Honestly should apply to the forum in general but what is our NSFW policy? LOL)

Lol. As a forum? Inconsistent at best lol

But I feel this thread, in particular, needs to be a bit more lax since people never engage unless they see a horrible image lol. Picture is worth a thousand words reigns supreme in this thread it seems

Uh, the horrible centaur pic is it's own things though as it was NSFL lol

Honestly, posting pics with appropriate tags from a game that people on here have actually have played is fine. (As long as it isn't a banned game or so bad that it would be banned from discussion.)

As a thread/community we need to do better than, "Hey, check out this disgusting/questionable/offensive design I found from a game I will never play." This shouldn't be a NSFW Show and No Tell thread. Otherwise we get what we got last page, eldritch abomination that that ten billion people quoted in order to react to.

But yeah, the forum as a whole is super inconsistent with NSFW stuff. Personally, I'm fine with NSFW (within reason) shit in this thread if it is for the purposes of generating a discussion. There needs to be merit. Beyond shock and awe points of course. This thread is inherently NSFW and it always will be and I can live with that, but that doesn't mean it needs to be Super NSFW or look like a sketchy image board.

Also the rule isn't don't ever quote a post with an image, just if there's any doubt then just remove it. If people want context, they have a link to the post in question. Though honestly the problem would be mitigated if everyone was better about NSFW tags in the first place but I digress.

New rule: We do not mass quote NSFW/NSFL images.

When in doubt, don't include a NSFW image/link in a quote.

[books]

More gadzuki and less hirohito is what I say when I think of godzilla.

[NekoFever]

This guy is on a tear

are their movies, tv shows, games etc. that are clearly right wing in nature but are legitimately great... not just good and entertaining

I feel like the right is terrible at subtext, so there probably isn't much

I’m genuinely wondering what his trans thread will be

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-there-actually-legitimate-great-right-wing-art.791127/

People in there saying Orson Scott Card hides it well. Dude wrote a book where “buggers” are destroying humanity.

Thank god the online left, proponents of “/s” tags so they don’t cancel each other for making jokes, gets subtext.

[Polident]

Somebody name drop Apocalypto in that thread. Although, Mel’s views seem to align with leftist these days.

[Besticus Maximus]

Ezra Pound is my go to for a nazi who could throw down. A genuine shame he was as mental as he was.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

It's almost as if he enjoys their pain..!

I certainly do.

[malfoyking]

How long before they say Harry Potter is right wing???? It's era after all. That take is dumb enough for them to believe and champion.

[Potato]

Somebody name drop Apocalypto in that thread. Although, Mel’s views seem to align with leftist these days.

Hating the Jews?

[Eric Cartman]

Great art requires empathy, which is antithetical to right wing individualism, so "great right wing art" is a contradiction.

Where do they get these rules and laws about art and humor?  Was there a humanities class I missed?

I mean... unless anyone except messyeggo wants to call the catholic church progressive (because they banned devils advocates), a huge fucking chunk of western art history and culture is based on whats generally accepted as a fairly conservative institution

[Eric Cartman]

The Witness is very strongly about a kind of fascination for the natural world and the rules that underpin it, that's kind of two jumps away to the fascination of the scientific enterprise as love for the science canon. I wouldn't say that it's "right wing" especially but i would say it goes hand in hand with people who are assured that if their method is correct, no one else needs to be listened to. Which isn't to say that the game is a thesis on everything, because it isn't, but the wonder of the game is a wonder of a certain kind that's not quite aligned with progressivist values i think. That's my personal feeling about it tbh.

And that's politics it just isn't politics in the colloquial sense of discussing how the state governs

Now I see why they're so tolerant of even the most oppressive religious stuff - science and knowing things is right wing

But can you explain scientifically how you can send lightning through magic to strike someone?

[Snoopy]

Visawife's feeling brave again -

You're not saying the name because of what? Embarrassed of your posts?

Just post the screenshots, and blur whatever you don't want to be seen. Either you accept no one believes your version of events or post the receipts.

What a slimy little cunt he is. Only pulls this shit in the safety of a dogpile. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/discord-servers-are-great-for-talking-about-gaming-but-i-eventually-get-banned-when-i-disagree-with-mod%E2%80%99s-friend.790944/page-3#post-115739070

[Eric Cartman]

The silencing of Muslim and Arab voices across Western media and the blatantly biased coverage on Palestine is unprecedented. The speed at which the establishment in Western society has embraced fascism is a warning signal for those of us who live here. The democracy and human rights brand is a facade. We are seeing their true face now.

I don't think liberal democracy cares enough about human rights and individuals participation in government, so I'm backing HAMAS, a terrorist organisation that abolished elections, spent resources intended for humanitarian aid on weaponry, started a war by raping, murdering and kidnapping civilians, and is run by a millionaire living the life of luxury in Qatar while his people struggle to maintain a subsistence lifestyle

[Propagandhim]

The Witness is very strongly about a kind of fascination for the natural world and the rules that underpin it, that's kind of two jumps away to the fascination of the scientific enterprise as love for the science canon. I wouldn't say that it's "right wing" especially but i would say it goes hand in hand with people who are assured that if their method is correct, no one else needs to be listened to. Which isn't to say that the game is a thesis on everything, because it isn't, but the wonder of the game is a wonder of a certain kind that's not quite aligned with progressivist values i think. That's my personal feeling about it tbh.

And that's politics it just isn't politics in the colloquial sense of discussing how the state governs

Now I see why they're so tolerant of even the most oppressive religious stuff - science and knowing things is right wing

 
But can you explain scientifically how you can send lightning through magic to strike someone?

"Science must be decolonized..oh by the way, did you know the noble caliphate that took over spain, portugal, and sicily in the 8th-10th century and revolutionized academia, art, and architecture and built the best universities that Europe had to offer at the time?  This representation was conspicuously missing in FF16, so you wouldn't know about it."

[Eric Cartman]

It's aggravating because its so aggressively stupid, and while I believe in the power of education it really feels like they're wasting a space at university that someone who would make better use of it is taking with their outright refusal to understand the basic fucking principles of what science is.

Its not like people were all fucking flying around before some honky went "NOPE! NO MORE OF THAT! HERE'S A LAW I CALL GRAVITY! STICK TO THE FUCKING GROUND BITCHES!". Newton didn't invent gravity, or impose it on people.
It was a discovery.
It can be tested independently, verified and repeated.
It makes no difference if its called Newton's law, Mubabe's law, Wing-chun's law or Z'zztrxxl's law.
The person who noticed it isn't the fucking important part.

Ugh, that fucking video is genuinely

[NekoFever]

I can’t believe the yts colonised Al-Andalus like that.

[Propagandhim]

It's aggravating because its so aggressively stupid, and while I believe in the power of education it really feels like they're wasting a space at university that someone who would make better use of it is taking with their outright refusal to understand the basic fucking principles of what science is.

Its not like people were all fucking flying around before some honky went "NOPE! NO MORE OF THAT! HERE'S A LAW I CALL GRAVITY! STICK TO THE FUCKING GROUND BITCHES!". Newton didn't invent gravity, or impose it on people.
It was a discovery.
It can be tested independently, verified and repeated.
It makes no difference if its called Newton's law, Mubabe's law, Wing-chun's law or Z'zztrxxl's law.
The person who noticed it isn't the fucking important part.

Ugh, that fucking video is genuinely

These people just exist to bring humor to the world, and we ought to thank them for it.  They're marginal people and nowhere in the causal chain of influence over the world are people stopping someone like Nepenthe, flagging her down so she can stop stocking the Sunny Delight in the juice aisle, and consulting her abundance of knowledge on colonial power dynamics.  She, along with the people in that video, are cows to be milked for laughs.

[HaughtyFrank]

So I come across some threads which I just avoid posting in as they are too contentious should you have a different viewpoint.

I'm just wondering if anyone feels the same, and for fear of facing punishment you avoid certain threads or just don't post?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-sometimes-feel-that-in-some-threads-you-cannot-make-any-posts-or-cant-have-another-viewpoint-for-fear-of-being-punished.791280/

Instant lock

No metacommentary threads, please.

This forum will not self reflect! That's the rules!

Also, who the fuck is aerie and why are they an admin?

[Boredfrom]

I'm glad someone brought up Jeff Grubb's response to this when the news first came out. He retweeted some ridiculous tweet that was trying to give Jirard benefit of doubt. It's a bad look for anyone involved that's trying to take a hands-off or "let's wait and see" because even in the first round of videos, the evidence is pretty fucking clear. And listening to Jirard try of bullshit his way out of it in that recorded call - how do you look at this guy as someone who should be given a chance, friend or not?

Really makes me question people like Jeff Grubb and others who say stuff like "the money is still in the account". If a friend or acquaintance of mine had these exact accusations put upon them with this exact evidence, I'm done with them.

I really do appreciate the way the FPS podcast distanced themselves immediately.

Really disappointed with his sympathetic acquaintances.

“Giving the benefit of doubt to their fucking friends? what a bunch of fucking scumbags. Yikes, bad optics, bad look, how problematic.”

https://www.resetera.com/threads/karl-jobst-thecompletionists-charity-has-allegedly-kept-all-the-money-update-new-video.784928/page-42#post-115744899

[Snoopy]

Why would you give money to some scummy YT’er when there are thousands of starving Colombian cam whores