Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Propagandhim]

I never really had a regular salary, so for me welfare is almost acceptable for my lifestyle.

Being poor, being unemployed, doesn't mean I'm less of a human.

"never really having a regular salary" is an interesting way of saying you're on the dole

[Propagandhim]

I'm what you might call...employment challenged...with an irregular, non-privatized salary. I demand people respect me and it's not working.  There's 0 chance I can earn that respect myself, so how do I do what I do best, and forcefully extract that respect from other people?

[Nintex]

We are not interested in hosting this discussion.

Holy shit 

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/explaining-things-to-a-murican.1087104/#post-134607336

We have fun here! Look at all the fun replies in this fun thread!

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/explaining-things-to-a-murican.1087104/#post-134607336

Yeah, if you ask an American why they would never go vegan, you'll get something related to any/all of these answers: burger, hot dog, and pizza.

Not just Americans, bud - every anticapitalist crusader on there is a hypocrite.  Ask Nepenthe why she won't go vegan and all that shit about being against the commodification of living beings, capitalism's tendency toward industrial oppression and exploitation and all that liberation from capital bullshit goes out the fucking window.  Hypocrisy runs deep with the "I like dis thing, so we keep it" or "I'm X race so whatever promotes my race is what I believe in" convenience.  Everything that promotes what she is, what she likes, what aggrandizes that which she identifies with, she keeps.  If something is inconvenient and has nothing to do with her - she throws it out.  She couldn't vote for Biden because it identified her as voting for genocide, despite her knowing there were tangible consequences.  Just the identification of being a Biden voter was enough - she wants to be a revolutionary.  Her morality is "I choose me everytime"   It's too bad she doesn't have an ethical superior to thumb their nose at her, patronize to her on why she's wrong, and ban her for being the moral scum of the earth like she does to everyone else.

[Snoopy]

Trump hasn’t been Prez for more than 2 hours and they’re already locking Toma’s threads? The masks are well and truly off people.

[jooseloose]

B-Cunt in the Constructive thread https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion-2024.859116/post-134609130

I do want to let people know though, that the Cyberpunk thing was literally the biggest pain in the butt to enforce ever. It was not fun for any of us, it was not our first choice, and I still get people complaining about how frustrating it was from a moderation perspective. The amount of work involved was immense, you guys have no idea what went into it from our end. Like Alice said, we'll talk about it, but people need to understand that they are not asking small things of us when they make these requests. When we did the Potter ban, we had planned it weeks in advance and worked out pretty much every single edge case so there'd be no confusion and it was still a huge pain in the butt to enforce.

Sorry, what?  Why is he making out confining discussion to a single thread to be some grand feat of human achievement?

I also want to make this point, generally, there are two reasons we ban a game: first, it's just porn; second, the game itself is filled with actual Nazi shit. Those are the reasons, we've always said this.

Cyberpunk had neither of these. Just admit you banned discussion outside the OT because the trans mafia told you to after they were pissed off by a joke tweet.

The Potter thing was a unique situation given Rowling was using the millions she was making to fund all kinds of horrible anti-trans shit. When we did it, we knew that'd we'd get everyone seeing it as a change in policy, when it was merely an exception to the rules given the severity of the situation, and ask us to ban every single mildly objectionable game ever. Unfortunately, that has kinda turned out to be 100% true. Calls for us to ban stuff have gone up like you wouldn't even believe. We can't be banning games left and right, in the last year this is the third major game release people have called on us to ban.

It's so obvious he regrets bending over backwards to the will of the trans mafia over Cyberpunk  He was cranky as fuck in every Stellar Blade thread and now the same thing is happening with Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 which at this point has more of a reason than Cyberpunk to have discussion confined to one thread but he's not going to do it.

[Boredfrom]

So I'm from Germany. I've been living off welfare for the past couple years due to a mix of physical and mental health issues. Because I studied at university for many years (without finishing due to aforementioned health issues)

I know this feeling, bro. But you need to have an actual work and not living of welfare for you own mental health.

[Boredfrom]

The Potter thing was a unique situation given Rowling was using the millions she was making to fund all kinds of horrible anti-trans shit

Keep saying this lie while people like Musk donates to Trump.

[HaughtyFrank]

I also want to make this point, generally, there are two reasons we ban a game: first, it's just porn; second, the game itself is filled with actual Nazi shit. Those are the reasons, we've always said this

Lying asshole. You've banned two games. Neither has Nazi shit

[Nintex]

Also, what is Toma exactly doing on ResetEra?

What is he going to post about video games if he is poor and can't afford them?
Or is he one of those poor people that cries about being poor but spends his welfare benefits on the PlayStation 5 Pro.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-to-sign-orders-ending-diversity-programs-proclaim-there-are-only-two-sexes.1086957/page-2#post-134600823

I think this is probably the end for me. I can't see any reason to go on. I know no one here cares, but self forever sleep is a better option than being murdered by these religious thugs.

[Boredfrom]

Also, what is Toma exactly doing on ResetEra?

What is he going to post about video games if he is poor and can't afford them?
Or is he one of those poor people that cries about being poor but spends his welfare benefits on the PlayStation 5 Pro.

He totally is.

[Boredfrom]

It'd be funny if he pardoned the public in general for what we might have to do to resist Trump

 


https://www.resetera.com/threads/biden-pardons-his-family.1087038/

[Averon]

Wasn't Toma the dude that said he was poor and then in another thread said he's gonna spend several hundred dollars on a handheld

[HaughtyFrank]

"Biden pardons his family"

Sad he had to do this.

Did he though? The amount of preemptive pardons is pretty crazy

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/china-signals-willingness-to-allow-tiktok-sale.1087182/

[Boredfrom]

"Biden pardons his family"

Sad he had to do this.

Did he though? The amount of preemptive pardons is pretty crazy

Is like he doesn’t trust the justice system and his family…

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-to-sign-orders-ending-diversity-programs-proclaim-there-are-only-two-sexes.1087110/#post-134608734

Trump can proclaim all he fucking wants about my identity. I don't give a shit what he or the law says.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-to-sign-orders-ending-diversity-programs-proclaim-there-are-only-two-sexes.1087110/#post-134608911

That is a great one to, and thank you.

Here are a few other ones just as examples

Congrats on the highlight.

[Besticus Maximus]

Cis people, if you consider yourself an ally, now is your chance to prove it. Make donations, go to protest rallies, hang flags out, do everything you possibly can.

Alternatively, don't consider yourself an ally and you don't have to do any of that shit, in fact you can just ignore it if you want to, it literally doesn't matter to you at all and won't inconvenience you in the slightest if you're just simply not trying to be ClickyCal's ally for whatever reason.

[nachobro]

New crazy toma thread just dropped, love the little small print at the start of the thread:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-see-and-treat-poor-unemployed-people-do-you-see-them-as-equals-or-lesser-people-and-those-poor-yourselves-whats-your-experience-being.1087161/

Just the past two months, 2 new health-issues arose that I'm dealing with now (several of my upper teeth started hurting, and there's a weird clicking sound in my left earer whenever I swallow; doctors told me "can't find anything", great …).

get a job bitch

[Ribosome]

Dude probably has "malingering" all over his medical records at this point.

[Daffy Duck]

Does Era not send reporting for wellness checks because they know these people are bluffing to E-Beg?

God, I wish I knew what that job loss reason was for, and why his wife left him. I’m guessing something inappropriate.

I’m guessing they came out as trans to her and they thought they’d be able to cope with it but soon changed their mind.

[Nintex]

"Biden pardons his family"

Sad he had to do this.

Did he though? The amount of preemptive pardons is pretty crazy

Is like he doesn’t trust the justice system and his family…

I wonder if Trump and Biden actually discussed this. "You pardon everyone so my administration can't prosecute"  

Trump was probably worried that Bible would burst into flames if he touched it. 

[books]

Reminds me of the old I Love Lucy episode where they're in Italy and Lucy is really sad because little ricky is at home in NYC for this birthday and some poor Luigi says, "Itsa my birthday too." And then more and more latchkey kids come up to Lucy saying, "It's a my birthday too" until there's a whole gaggle of em and Lucy realizes they're claiming birthdays because they think they can get free cake out of this grift. That's being non-binary on resetera.

Edit- One of closest friends I've know over 20 years is super gay and by osmosis, I've met and hung out with all sorts of gays and trans folkx thru the club and dance music scene.
NONE of em are like Ree trans folks in real life.
In fact, zero "woe is me I'm gonna die scenarios." They're usually busy being fantastic and flirting with everyone.

I absolutely detest ree's portrayal of gays as some unique unicorn

[Nintex]

Reminds me of the old I Love Lucy episode where they're in Italy and Lucy is really sad because little ricky is at home in NYC for this birthday and some poor Luigi says, "Itsa my birthday too." And then more and more latchkey kids come up to Lucy saying, "It's a my birthday too" until there's a whole gaggle of em and Lucy realizes they're claiming birthdays because they think they can get free cake out of this grift. That's being non-binary on resetera.

It really has been used as a get out of jail free card of not being accountable for failed men.
You're not an unemployed fat degenerate that jerks off to My Little Pony but you're a brave trans woman that deserves praise and a free ride. 

Many such cases.


aaaand Elon accidentally did a Nazi salute hours into the Trump Presidency 

[DavidCroquet]

Cis people, if you consider yourself an ally, now is your chance to prove it. Make donations, go to protest rallies, hang flags out, do everything you possibly can.

Alternatively, don't consider yourself an ally and you don't have to do any of that shit, in fact you can just ignore it if you want to, it literally doesn't matter to you at all and won't inconvenience you in the slightest if you're just simply not trying to be ClickyCal's ally for whatever reason.

I don’t know what all this anxiety is for. Sure, Trump signed an EO saying there are only 2 genders, but he ALSO saved TikTok.

As the first and only platform for visibility on gender issues and organizing for social justice, Trans activists are fully unleashed to pursue effective, material, and significant social change at incredible speed. Trump and his cronies heads will surely spin!

🏳️‍⚧️ 💅 🏳️‍🌈💖🌈🫃

[Nintex]

Trump just wants to be in on the TikTok take.

If they ever told him how many billions they raked in with the lgbtq+, he would've protected trans rights before any Democrat.

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What ist los babe why haven't you touched your sauerkraut

I'm sorry Erika, but Elon Musk just did a Sieg Heil

[DocWager]

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B-Cunt in the Constructive thread https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion-2024.859116/post-134609130

I do want to let people know though, that the Cyberpunk thing was literally the biggest pain in the butt to enforce ever. It was not fun for any of us, it was not our first choice, and I still get people complaining about how frustrating it was from a moderation perspective. The amount of work involved was immense, you guys have no idea what went into it from our end. Like Alice said, we'll talk about it, but people need to understand that they are not asking small things of us when they make these requests. When we did the Potter ban, we had planned it weeks in advance and worked out pretty much every single edge case so there'd be no confusion and it was still a huge pain in the butt to enforce.

Sorry, what?  Why is he making out confining discussion to a single thread to be some grand feat of human achievement?

I also want to make this point, generally, there are two reasons we ban a game: first, it's just porn; second, the game itself is filled with actual Nazi shit. Those are the reasons, we've always said this.

Cyberpunk had neither of these. Just admit you banned discussion outside the OT because the trans mafia told you to after they were pissed off by a joke tweet.

The Potter thing was a unique situation given Rowling was using the millions she was making to fund all kinds of horrible anti-trans shit. When we did it, we knew that'd we'd get everyone seeing it as a change in policy, when it was merely an exception to the rules given the severity of the situation, and ask us to ban every single mildly objectionable game ever. Unfortunately, that has kinda turned out to be 100% true. Calls for us to ban stuff have gone up like you wouldn't even believe. We can't be banning games left and right, in the last year this is the third major game release people have called on us to ban.

It's so obvious he regrets bending over backwards to the will of the trans mafia over Cyberpunk  He was cranky as fuck in every Stellar Blade thread and now the same thing is happening with Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 which at this point has more of a reason than Cyberpunk to have discussion confined to one thread but he's not going to do it.

Why is Dubs pretending being a mod is like flying a plane?

This dude is as carny as a wrestling promoter.

[Venice]

New crazy toma thread just dropped, love the little small print at the start of the thread:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-see-and-treat-poor-unemployed-people-do-you-see-them-as-equals-or-lesser-people-and-those-poor-yourselves-whats-your-experience-being.1087161/

Hahaha this is fucking crazy!!!

FantasticToma writes some insane rant:

(Disclaimer: This thread has nothing to do with my recent ban. While it would still be nice if mods answered to the ticket ban appeal I opened weeks ago, this thread is separate from that. Just clarifying, because it could be seen as related.)


So I'm from Germany. I've been living off welfare for the past couple years due to a mix of physical and mental health issues. Because I studied at university for many years (without finishing due to aforementioned health issues), I never really had a regular salary, so for me welfare is almost acceptable for my lifestyle. I'm not demanding more or anything. But here's the thing that bothers me and bothers me more with time passing: Being poor, being unemployed, doesn't mean I'm less of a human. And yet that's what everybody around me makes me feel. And not just me. Looking at how people talk about poor/unemployed people, a shocking amount of people in Germany has no shame to outright spew hate against them.

To make matters short, welfare in Germany is called "Bürgergeld" (it's more complicated than that, but this is not the thread for that). This welfare is also the so-called "existence minimum", the amount of money that marks the lowest amount someone can live with here in Germany. If you're unemployed , this is what you'll get (ultimately. again, there's some steps before, but this isn't a thread about the intricacies of the German welfare system). So people who cannot work for WHATEVER reason (health reasons, raising children, no luck finding a job, etc.) will receive that welfare. And for some reason, this makes them also receive an enormous amount of hate.

Being called "lazy" and "leeches" are among the milder things poor people get called here. And all that hate, because we cannot work for one reason or another. Statistics and research have recently proven that only a miniscule amount of 16k people are receiving welfare and outrought refusing to work despite being able to. Because those 16k people exist, haters are shitting on the whole of 2.8 million unemployed people. Meanwhile, these hateful people spend a fraction of the same energy to condemn rich people, millionaires and billionaires, who are actually screwing over the system with their wealth and the ongoing corruption. Introduce a wealth tax? Keep the currently active so-called solidarity tax? Reform inheritance taxes? Reform taxes in general so that poor people are paying less, rich people more? NEVER. But let's shit on poor people, because … BECAUSE.

The reason given, of course, is that poor (and for the record, I'm using poor and unemployed together in this thread; talking about the poorest of the poor, really) people are "taking" the tax money of working people and having a "nice" and "easy" life with it. Which is SUCH bs, of course. Taking myself as an example (and I'm probably an unusual example), I'm in the "lucky" position where I can save up some of my welfare money thanks to getting food often for free. But that aside, I still have the REASONS why I'm unemployed to begin with, my shit health. Just the past two months, 2 new health-issues arose that I'm dealing with now (several of my upper teeth started hurting, and there's a weird clicking sound in my left earer whenever I swallow; doctors told me "can't find anything", great …). And those are minor issues compared to the big ones I don't wanna talk about here. The "paradise" I'm living in that society gives me all their hatred for is me spending all day every day in my room in front of a screen. Eating something. Going to bed very late. Then repeating the same. Only broken up by family events, wich isn't exactly the greatest break due to family issues, too. So, just going off my example, on top of having a shitty, lonely life with just enough money to "live", I also have to bear the permanent, daily hate that working people spew in my and people like mine's direction. Which is ironic, because those being the most hateful are those closest to my status: People who work, but don't earn that much. You'd think they'd direct their anger at rich people, but no, nothing gets them going better than some nice hate against poor people.

While the USA have to deal with Trump and Republicans now, it's very likely that Germany will have to deal with Friedrich Merz and the CDU/CSU in only a few months. And him and his party are very stern supporters of abolishing the current welfare system, lowering the amount of money paid to poor people, and raising all sorts of punishment methods against them. And people are celebrating these plans, hence him and his party likely winning the upcoming Election. And that really has me scared. Social welfare has been neglected and shit for many, many years in Germany. Only 2 years ago, it finally got an overdue, slightly more significant push in a better direction. Only to be followed by "omg, that was too much of a money raise! And not enough punishment! We need to instill fear in poor people so they get back to work!!1"-reaction from the general public, I kid you not. Which is funny when there's more than double as many unemployed people than open jobs, so even if you forced people to take any shit job, there'd still be millions without a job who would be punished for no fault of their own.

And then I look around online and I feel that … there's a lot of the same sentiment. Whether it's irl when people ask you "so what are you doing?" and then it gets all awkward when they cannot handle "Nothing. I'm unemployed" for an answer, on instagram where women say "I wouldn't date a man who doesn't make at least 6 digits", Twitter where people literally dehumanize poor people, or even sometimes Resetera where it feels like a lot of people have lost touch with reality when it comes to money (I want to add that my issues with Resetera in this regard absolutely pale in comparison with the other examples! Just sometimes … ). It really feels like a lot of people out there see poor people as some sort of different species to themselves. At least that's how it feels to me. Everybody has a lobby that fights for its cause. Except poor people. Sure, there are some social organizations, but they're so powerless compared to pretty much anything else that's fighting for a cause.

READ AT LEAST THE FOLLOWING 2 PARAGRAPHS PLS IF THE ABOVE WAS TOO MUCH WALL OF TEXT. THX:

So that's what I wanted to ask you guys, how it's for you. Whether you're poor/unemployed yourselves. And more interestingly, if you're not poor, how do you see and treat the poor people you meet irl and online? Do you see them as "lesser"? Will you still be friends with them or would you rather stay away from them? Would you date an unemployed person? Would you demand conditions a la "I will only interact with poor people who try to find a job"? I guess it all comes down to: Are poor people equals to you (assuming you're not poor) or do you think you're (ever so slightly) better than them?

I'd like to ask everyone (myself included) to keep any replies in this thread polite and civil. It's probably a touchy topic for some, but as someone who's afflicted, I'm interested to hear some real people's opinion on the matter. People who, by way of being part of Resetera, probably are generally less hateful people than elsewhere. Thanks for any feedback and please realize: This thread is not about me, it's about the general topic of poor/unemployed people and how you see them or what experience you've made as one of them. I just wanted to give a concrete example by telling about my situation here in Germany.

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