Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

It's unbelievable how accidentally misgendering a known awful person is more offensive than celebrating some random Republican losing his daughter and granddaughter.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/private-jet-crashes-in-virginia-after-triggering-military-response-by-flying-too-close-to-washington-dc.726267/page-2#post-106849071

some of yall really need to take a step away from the internet and really do some soul searching if the first reaction to a tragedy is if someone involved voted for someone you don't like and thus its actually fine that said tragedy happened to them.

like wow

I have empathy for the innocents who lost their lives in this crash. It doesn't change the fact that the owners of this particular private jet are fascists who are perpetuating genocide.

Doesn't seem like a particularly relevant fact? Did you feel the need to point out the owner of the World Trade Center after 9/11 U.S. Capitol after January 6th?

[Boredfrom]

1686079847[/url]']

Living among white people was a mistake.

There, I said it.  One of the worst cons ever pulled on black people is that we needed to exist around whites in order to achieve equality.

I'm at the point now where I'd rather we continue trying to live amongst ourselves rather than plod along in this perennial exhaustive attempt at integration/acceptance. 

At least that option is theoretically attainable.  The other choice is practically a guarantee to fail.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-black-mother-of-4-was-shot-and-killed-by-a-neighbor-her-family-wants-the-woman-who-shot-her-arrested.726825/post-106831884

Kind of telling that Royalan and Nephente agree with this statement. Black segregation seems to be a very regressive idea for a progressive forum.

[benji]

How else would you achieve racial equality in the same society? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal

Well, I do seem to recall not too long ago that they declared overturning Supreme Court precedents to be something that shouldn't be allowed.

[FUME5]

Fatboy just doesn't want to share his hood burgers.

[benji]

Kind of telling that Royalan and Nephente agree with this statement. Black segregation seems to be a very regressive idea for a progressive forum.

The right side of history knows that the races are scientifically proven so inherently different that they can't live together. To start with, just look at their different skull shapes...

[Boredfrom]

I like that a dude with an Advance Wars avatar and user name says that is impossible to whites and black to live together. In another time and place, it would be a white shitposter at GameFaqs.

[benji]

I like that a dude with an Advance Wars avatar and user name says that is impossible to whites and black to live together. In another time and place, it would be a white shitposter at GameFaqs.

There's no Black people in Advance Wars.

Searched to confirm my memory and discovered this from a month ago:

I’m not a prude about war games, but real war is so horrifying that I always need some abstraction to get into it. The outlandish outfit designs in Fire Emblem and the cat ears in Arknights create a bit of cognitive distance from the harsh realities of armed conflict I learned about in school, allowing me to embrace their fictional video game worlds. It’s the only way to make the games’ brutal battlefields palatable for me. But Advance Wars goes so far in turning war into a schoolyard rivalry that I find distasteful.

...

The narrative problem in Advance Wars is the complete lack of gravitas. To be clear, I’m not expecting the story to be War and Peace or All’s Quiet on the Western Front. I love a goofy war narrative here and there. But there’s absolutely no space for any reflection in Advance Wars. The story never feels as serious as its premise of international armed conflict suggests. Contrast this with Fire Emblem, whose blue-haired prince reflects on how war tears his country apart, or Arknights, which never lets you forget that its goofy heroes are fighting against eugenics and genocide, or how deeply broken these child soldiers are. The worst thing that happens in Advance Wars is that the rival general keeps calling my CO childish names. I wish that was the worst possible thing that could possibly happen in a war.

The soldiers in Advance Wars get blown away from having tank projectiles shot at them, but there’s never any consequences for letting them die. You just spend some money to recruit more bodies for the grinder, or manufacture more tanks for the front line. None of the COs seem concerned that war comes at a price. They represent the army, and not any individual units like characters do in Fire Emblem. At first, I wasn’t too bothered. This fictional story represents a large-scale, modern war. You can know ten soldiers, but it’s impossible to know thousands. Even if a specific map required me to send endless waves of infantry to hold off the enemy army while I captured a far-off base, they remained faceless and unknowable to me.

You might see this as a commentary on the cruelties of war in and of itself. But all of that is sanded off by the bright and cheerful art, the cartoonish jokes, and the focus on the interpersonal relationships between COs. Maybe the story gets there eventually. Maybe, if I’d soldiered on, I’d eventually be treated to long soliloquies about the sanctity of life or the necessary evils of war. But I couldn’t stand to watch these young commanders treat war like a board game, one where only their personal pride mattered. I lost an average of five to eight units per battle, and I felt worse about my losses than any of the characters did. It’s hard to want to root for the protagonists when they’re so disconnected from the sacrifices that scouts have to make whenever I send them to the front lines.

 

omg it's the same writer we've made fun of before

Also, Kotaku pushed this article to me next and looks like Neoxon's train might still come in:

The Brilliant Scholar Who’s Challenging Racism In Game Design
Dr. Kishonna Gray’s studies of race and gender in gaming have made her a sought-after consultant in the industry

She’d just become a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and as someone who studies games and their intersections with factors like gender and race and with Black experience in particular, she was eager to learn about this game that had become such a cultural sensation. She connected with a group of Black teens who agreed to meet her in Grant Park to show her how the game works. However, the young men were rebuffed by security in the area, their numbers and their Blackness disruptive, Gray said, to the white sensibilities of that part of the city. So the teens began heading back home to the predominantly Black neighborhood of Englewood.

Dr. Gray instead headed out to Englewood to meet them. After all, couldn’t Pokémon Go be played anywhere? Wasn’t this one of its selling points, part of what made it so exciting? “I couldn’t have been more wrong,” Gray told the conference. “When I went out there to try to find a [Pokéstop], there were none around.” She shows a slide contrasting a cluster of interactable points in the game in and around Grant Park with the dearth of them in Englewood. Well, okay, she admits, there were not quite none. “There was one,” she says. “It was a statue in the park. And it was a Confederate statue.”

This contrast between the wealth of Pokéstops in one part of Chicago and the near-complete absence of them in another wasn’t just some random fluke, Gray said. It was a game—a hugely popular game, played by millions of people—reflecting disparities in the real world. “There is a racialized legacy of why this is happening,” Gray, an impassioned and charismatic speaker, told the audience. “The legacies of redlining. The legacies of slavery and Jim Crow. Those things are alive and well across our cities…in the United States. They are alive and well.”

Too often, Gray argues, the creators of games and technology ignore these kinds of real-world factors, considering them irrelevant to their work, and because they don’t consciously take them into account, they wind up perpetuating those same disparities in the digital space. People making games “can’t just all of a sudden say, ‘Oh yeah, segregation doesn’t matter because whatever we create will be distributed equally across all populations.’ That’s just not true.” She says companies routinely pay lip service to concepts like diversity and intersectionality, but often fail to actually do the work and have the necessary conversations to avoid replicating real-world inequalities.

Few people are working harder to make gaming and tech more equitable than Dr. Gray herself. Her deep study of issues around race and gender in gaming has led to the publication of several books including and Intersectional Tech: Black Users in Digital Gaming.

Her writing and academic work in this space is invaluable, and as an intellectual, she can hang with the best of them. Intersectional Tech, for instance, dense with stimulating ideas, begins with talk of “explicat[ing] the possibilities of synthesizing theories and methods from the disciplines of feminism, critical race theory, media studies, and anthropology, among others, in a critical study of black, intersectional technoculture.”

 

[Boredfrom]

https://kotaku.com/sisi-jiang-kotaku-farewell-post-games-journalism-1850456691

I never read of someone being so proud of being a terrible writer and a leftist stereotype. Also lesbian( ) transexual according to their Twitter. Hope Mihoyo fires them before is too late.

[benji]

https://kotaku.com/sisi-jiang-kotaku-farewell-post-games-journalism-1850456691

I never read of someone being so proud of being a terrible writer and a leftist stereotype. Also lesbian( ) transexual.

the hardest part of being a Kotaku writer was simply showing up every single day and being held to the highest standards in gaming journalism

Nonetheless, I fought for readers and I fought for my colleagues. While the New York Times battled progressives over whether or not transphobia is a legitimate stance, I was an openly nonbinary and Chinese reporter in a country where it’s increasingly dangerous to be any single one of those things.

one of the curious things that happens to people who work at this website is that they start to care an absurd amount about journalism. The industry is moving in a direction where corporations and influencers are shaping how games are being talked about, rather than writers bound to a professional ethics code. Corporate fuckshit continues with alarming regularity. Layoffs have hit or shuttered multiple gaming news outlets over the past year. Yes, reporting on games is more important than ever, but it seems that, right when we need it most, fewer opportunities exist compared to when I first started writing.

Games are art, community, and politics. Gameplay allows us a mirror into ourselves, provides a vessel for our collective apocalyptic grief, and forces us into delightful contradictions.

Despite working one of the hardest jobs in the entire industry, I had some truly baller opportunities here.

 

[Boredfrom]

They are lucky to live in Texas rather than in mainland China

[Boredfrom]

Also, there was a black dude in Days of Ruin, Benji!

[FUME5]

I like that a dude with an Advance Wars avatar and user name says that is impossible to whites and black to live together. In another time and place, it would be a white shitposter at GameFaqs.

His last avatar was Chapelle in whiteface I'm pretty sure.

[NekoFever]

Important scholarly discussion in the constructive thread:

The amount of pride flags and the importance people ascribe to them is just so weird to me. There's probably more of these than there are country flags

"We're all united under a flag, except my specific subgroup is extra special and needs its own dedicated flag"

https://kotaku.com/sisi-jiang-kotaku-farewell-post-games-journalism-1850456691

I never read of someone being so proud of being a terrible writer and a leftist stereotype. Also lesbian( ) transexual.

the hardest part of being a Kotaku writer was simply showing up every single day and being held to the highest standards in gaming journalism

Nonetheless, I fought for readers and I fought for my colleagues. While the New York Times battled progressives over whether or not transphobia is a legitimate stance, I was an openly nonbinary and Chinese reporter in a country where it’s increasingly dangerous to be any single one of those things.

one of the curious things that happens to people who work at this website is that they start to care an absurd amount about journalism. The industry is moving in a direction where corporations and influencers are shaping how games are being talked about, rather than writers bound to a professional ethics code. Corporate fuckshit continues with alarming regularity. Layoffs have hit or shuttered multiple gaming news outlets over the past year. Yes, reporting on games is more important than ever, but it seems that, right when we need it most, fewer opportunities exist compared to when I first started writing.

Games are art, community, and politics. Gameplay allows us a mirror into ourselves, provides a vessel for our collective apocalyptic grief, and forces us into delightful contradictions.

Despite working one of the hardest jobs in the entire industry, I had some truly baller opportunities here.

 

Before I became a game reviewer, an investigative reporter, and an all-around troublemaker, I was an award-nominated game designer who put stories in video games. Alas, that didn’t pay very well or consistently. So, as I ran out of my parents’ healthcare, I moseyed over to this website thinking I might give this “blogging” thing a shot.

In what world does games blogging pay better than game design? Literally everyone I worked with in the gaming press moved into game design or marketing because they pay adult salaries and in the case of marketing is the same job.

[benji]

In what world does games blogging pay better than game design? Literally everyone I worked with in the gaming press moved into game design or marketing because they pay adult salaries and in the case of marketing is the same job.

By "award-nominated game designer" they mean indie Twine text adventures: https://six6jiang.itch.io/

[NekoFever]

Gotcha. They missed the quotes around “game” and “design”.

[Daffy Duck]

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The two-year-old might have grown up to be chud.

Or misgender someone

[Uncle]

It's unbelievable how accidentally misgendering a known awful person is more offensive than celebrating some random Republican losing his daughter and granddaughter.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/private-jet-crashes-in-virginia-after-triggering-military-response-by-flying-too-close-to-washington-dc.726267/page-2#post-106849071

I have empathy for the innocents who lost their lives in this crash. It doesn't change the fact that the owners of this particular private jet are fascists who are perpetuating genocide.

Doesn't seem like a particularly relevant fact? Did you feel the need to point out the owner of the World Trade Center after 9/11 U.S. Capitol after January 6th?

"rip to the victims of the uvalde massacre, but it's in texas, so you know a number of those parents and administrators were fascist terrorists and should not be defended"

[Polident]

Living among white people was a mistake.

There, I said it.  One of the worst cons ever pulled on black people is that we needed to exist around whites in order to achieve equality.

I'm at the point now where I'd rather we continue trying to live amongst ourselves rather than plod along in this perennial exhaustive attempt at integration/acceptance. 

At least that option is theoretically attainable.  The other choice is practically a guarantee to fail.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-black-mother-of-4-was-shot-and-killed-by-a-neighbor-her-family-wants-the-woman-who-shot-her-arrested.726825/post-106831884

Isn’t this the same shit the Dilbert guy said? Is the horseshoe a circle yet?

[Eric Cartman]

Kind of telling that Royalan and Nephente agree with this statement. Black segregation seems to be a very regressive idea for a progressive forum.

Especially under the pretense of 'risk of getting shot'.
It is very very very well established you are most at risk of violence or violent crime by someone of your own skin colour, whoever you are.
This has been proven time and again, primarily to combat racist "they coming to git ya" style rhetoric.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

It is very very very well established you are most at risk of violence or violent crime by someone of your own skin colour, whoever you are.

WTF. You mean to tell me I've been crossing the street to the wrong people this entire time?!?

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-my-supervisor-is-salty-we-didnt-invite-him-to-the-beach.726936/

Guess which messy bitch who loves drama is magically allowed to make threads again

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-large-group-of-transphobic-fascists-attacked-lgbtq-parents-outside-a-school-board-meeting-in-glendale-ca-including-at-least-one-proud-boy-member.726948/

The terrorists are getting more emboldened by the day. It's coming time where every lgbt person could consider being armed.

yeah i used to be strongly opposed to being armed but we are literally in the midst of the genocide. shit's too crazy now

Violence against fascists is self defense. Fuck them and fuck the cops.

Ding ding. This so much.

[D3RANG3D]

[JoeBoy101]

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Gotcha. They missed the quotes around “game” and “design”.

Theseus -$5
gay minotaur breakup game
Interactive Fiction

 

LIONKILLER - $10
gay mulan set during the first opium war
Interactive Fiction

 

Pretty sure the ‘award nominated’ could be to check a box.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-psychosis-how-an-entire-population-becomes-mentally-ill.726165/

User Banned (1 Month): Inappropriate Thread Creation; Long History of Inflammatory and Disruptive Behaviour

There might be a valid discussion on mass psychosis somewhere but we need to do better with sources and be a bit more considerate in regards to how we talk about mental illness.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-large-group-of-transphobic-fascists-attacked-lgbtq-parents-outside-a-school-board-meeting-in-glendale-ca-including-at-least-one-proud-boy-member.726948/

It is surprising that a proud boy is LGBTQ+.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kitase-development-on-final-fantasy-vii-rebirth-is-progressing-smoothly-and-were-working-on-nailing-a-release-date-daily-updates-in-threadmarks.725622/page-15#post-106864581

what you didn't like the whistling theme and the asian theme and the regular theme looping every 15 seconds? Come on, hater.

I was gonna have a panic attack after a while. The loop is so fucking short and you have to run around Wall Market SO MUCH doing inconsequential nonsense.

You almost had a panic attack because a music loop was too short?

Can someone please give this fucking dork an atomic wedgie already? I’ll pay!

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-psychosis-how-an-entire-population-becomes-mentally-ill.726165/

User Banned (1 Month): Inappropriate Thread Creation; Long History of Inflammatory and Disruptive Behaviour

There might be a valid discussion on mass psychosis somewhere but we need to do better with sources and be a bit more considerate in regards to how we talk about mental illness.

Someone from Ree got butthurt from Spiders pointing and reported OP for it, probably

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/for-the-first-time-ever-in-40-year-history-the-human-rights-campaign-has-declared-a-state-of-emergency-for-all-lgbtq-in-the-us.727125/

Shouldn't they be mad that they're not calling it a genocide?

Unfortunately people will stick their heads in the sand about this existential crisis until something unspeakable happens. And yes, it can get much worse.

What is worse than a genocide?

[BIONIC]

Things are getting much worse out here. I’m not so much worried about myself but the rest of my LGBTQ+ friends and family.

Thordinson
Member
He/Him/They/Them

So you’re telling me your ree pronouns have no discernible effect on your day to day life. Curious