Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

There would be no joining if the US invaded, you'd be conscripted. 

[Polident]

For better or worse, a month or two ago the Canada discourse was about overwhelming immigration woes and crippling youth unemployment. Trump somehow changed the topic to…war? Probably more worse. But it seemed to boost some sense of national pride among Canadians. Who knew that existed?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

For better or worse, a month or two ago the Canada discourse was about overwhelming immigration woes and crippling youth unemployment. Trump somehow changed the topic to…war? Probably more worse. But it seemed to boost some sense of national pride among Canadians. Who knew that existed?

mistakes into miracles

[Ethan]

"American humor"



It ain't exactly South Park. It might have been funnier before the Trump admin indicated that they're pretty much realigning with Russia now.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

For the record, I always found canadian nationalism about as hollow as it gets, and there's a lot of ridiculous hysteria in that thread, but excuse me for not being amused.

I don't think you guys are really realizing just much how the ROW, except for Nintex, are looking at what's going on with horror and think you're all going insane. But you don't think about us at all, so that's fine I guess. Have fun.


/care post

You mistake what I was talking about regarding American humor about Canada, although South Park is actually a good example of it as is Canadian Bacon. It's the idea that anyone in America would care about Canada enough to be angry about it. Canada's harmless and irrelevant which is what makes it funny to be serious about it. The fact that so many Canadians get upset about this makes it even funnier.

I also think you and many others are being heavily provincial in the belief that America is "aligning with Russia" in any sense because you don't misidentify the correct part of American culture. Whatever Trump may or may not personally want he's not tapping into some pro-Russia strain because that doesn't exist at all. What Trump taps into are the xenophobic and isolationist strains in America that have always been powerful and especially have been in both parties for a long time. Trump's rhetoric about NATO has been a staple of American politics for decades. It's not because Americans are pro-Russia it's because they don't want to care about and especially don't want to pay for Europe. It's the tiny proportional ask that allows the federal government to play in other countries around the world, not some real American interest in internationalism. When Americans feel personally pressed in their circumstances they want to withdraw from the world and what they feel are its intractable constant problems. (Trump also taps into this with his general opposition to free trade.)

Why would you think we're all "going insane" because Trump is running his mouth as usual and everyone should be used to by now? He won an election, but it doesn't mean he can do whatever he wants no matter what the population wants. The guy couldn't even get his wall. His attempt to stay in office that everyone got absurd about was underpants gnomes level in its planning and organization. He just failed to get anything he proclaimed out of a budget bill that promised more spending. What's the "horror" supposed to be? That Trump is a moron who says absurd and stupid things? Yeah, duh, everybody knows this except MAGA. Why are you remotely taking any of this seriously? You really truly believe that America is about to launch an invasion of Canada to annex it because some idiot said something? And it's all part of a global hegemonic plan to link up with Russia? Seriously? Of course this is going to be mocked.

So why do you keep invading everyone then? 

"Invasion" implies that we care about their "borders" and "territory" rather than just moving our stuff around in what we own.

The motivations behind the Trump admin's actions (I'm not talking about Americans as a whole) are completely irrelevant to us, to the point where people have stopped to even try to figure out what they are. You want to withdraw from the world? Do it then. Be the autarky that you dream of. Close your market. Close your military bases. Just please stop thrashing the place while you get out. The 180 on Ukraine is absolutely disgusting stuff. Sure, it's Trump and his minions, not the US. But how can you even make the distinction now with the enabling that has been going on for years? How many of your politicians and businessmen have completely changed their tune after kissing the ring?

Why we think you're going insane? I'll give you one example. In January, both your president and his wife were involved in a massive crypto fraud. Okay, let's be generous, a massive crypto scam. Maybe I'm naive, but I'd think that in most other liberal democracies, there would have been endless uproar from the media, the population and the politicians across the spectrum. There would be a public inquiry and perhaps a criminal investigation. People wouldn't stop until a resignation. Yet, it seems barely anyone batted an eyelid.

I mean, I get it. The crowd here is too cool to care...Resistance twitter is hysteric...Canadians are hysteric..Trump is just a senile rambling moron...
I still think your gaslighting yourselves into thinking that things are more normal than they are. That your famous "checks and balances" are holding. That you're not dangerously advancing toward a point of no return.

Anyway, that's too much caring for today, Going the bed. Goodnight.

[Boredfrom]

I think is easier to laugh about Trump threatening Canada and Mexico because a real armed conflict is something that no one wants to happen. Is just not going to happen without being a gigantic shit show for everyone involved. To close to the U.S. 

With Europe and Ukraine is more assholish because it actually fucks other countries security for no real reason than Trump having a Russian fetish and feeling that Europe is not sucking his cock good.

[D3RANG3D]

As an American Fuck Ukraine and Israel and Palestine fix your own messes and when Russia or China knocks on your doorsteps, maybe you should have paid what you owed!

[Boredfrom]

As an American Fuck Ukraine and Israel and Palestine fix your own messes and when Russia or China knocks on your doorsteps, maybe you should have paid what you owed!

You are so funny man. Keep it up.

[D3RANG3D]

It's not a joke fuckface!

[Mediocre Lager]

Maybe I'm just misremembering what it was like last time he was in charge, but things do seem to be different this time. Everything seems a lot more aggressive and a lot faster than before.

Even all this tariff garbage. We went through this before. He implemented tariffs and we implemented some targeted ones back and then after a little while everyone backed down. This time he's a lot louder about it and a lot more threatening. And for a lot of Americans it's not really a big deal because it's just Trump running his mouth again, but our economy can't handle these types of shocks as well so there's a very real chance that even just the threat will have people I know losing their jobs.

Not to mention the changes he's made to your government so that no one around him is willing to say no to any stupid idea he has, these annexation "jokes" are seeming a lot more threatening.

So I don't wanna say I'm worried exactly, but I am getting a little concerned about where things will go.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Benji should be forced to change his screen name to "Benji was wrong" if Trump invades Canada.

If Trump doesn't invade then everything is okay. 

[benji]

Going to be honest with you Benji but that is kind of sad view of your own country.

Trump is almost every bad and negative stereotype of the U.S. rolled into one. A cartoon character from a bad political satire.

Okay, and? How should that change your opinion of the U.S. from six months ago?

The motivations behind the Trump admin's actions (I'm not talking about Americans as a whole) are completely irrelevant to us, to the point where people have stopped to even try to figure out what they are. You want to withdraw from the world? Do it then. Be the autarky that you dream of. Close your market. Close your military bases. Just please stop thrashing the place while you get out. The 180 on Ukraine is absolutely disgusting stuff. Sure, it's Trump and his minions, not the US. But how can you even make the distinction now with the enabling that has been going on for years? How many of your politicians and businessmen have completely changed their tune after kissing the ring?

Why we think you're going insane? I'll give you one example. In January, both your president and his wife were involved in a massive crypto fraud. Okay, let's be generous, a massive crypto scam. Maybe I'm naive, but I'd think that in most other liberal democracies, there would have been endless uproar from the media, the population and the politicians across the spectrum. There would be a public inquiry and perhaps a criminal investigation. People wouldn't stop until a resignation. Yet, it seems barely anyone batted an eyelid.

Again, I'm not seeing what's different from before. One President signed a law he said was unconstitutional and then invaded another country based on a "slam dunk" that didn't exist. The guy after him said the government can ban books to protect politicians and the President can murder any American citizen without trial. Both violated more laws than I could count. Nobody cares. They still don't care today.

I still think your gaslighting yourselves into thinking that things are more normal than they are. That your famous "checks and balances" are holding. That you're not dangerously advancing toward a point of no return.

Maybe I'm just misremembering what it was like last time he was in charge, but things do seem to be different this time. Everything seems a lot more aggressive and a lot faster than before.

...

Not to mention the changes he's made to your government so that no one around him is willing to say no to any stupid idea he has, these annexation "jokes" are seeming a lot more threatening.

So I don't wanna say I'm worried exactly, but I am getting a little concerned about where things will go.

But what's even changed? What's even happened?

[Polident]

Maybe I'm just misremembering what it was like last time he was in charge, but things do seem to be different this time. Everything seems a lot more aggressive and a lot faster than before.

Even all this tariff garbage. We went through this before. He implemented tariffs and we implemented some targeted ones back and then after a little while everyone backed down. This time he's a lot louder about it and a lot more threatening. And for a lot of Americans it's not really a big deal because it's just Trump running his mouth again, but our economy can't handle these types of shocks as well so there's a very real chance that even just the threat will have people I know losing their jobs.

Not to mention the changes he's made to your government so that no one around him is willing to say no to any stupid idea he has, these annexation "jokes" are seeming a lot more threatening.

So I don't wanna say I'm worried exactly, but I am getting a little concerned about where things will go.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Trump has been fairly open about how lost he was when he first won. Didn’t know anybody in Washington. Trusted whatever republican person in whatever position he was told to. That extended to Pence as VP. For round two, he claims he’s over that learning curve. Optimization in his picks and positions. It isn’t helped by how badly the democrats bungled the election and past couple years. There’s no #resist. Many of those key figures from last time became (exposed as?) embarrassing assholes in the interim.

I saw “apathetic” used earlier. That’s pretty much how it is. You have republicans energized and any opposition is apathetic. To me the concerning part is the democrats and left seemingly haven’t learned a thing. ffs some of those guys are talking about running Harris again.

[benji]

For round two, he claims he’s over that learning curve. Optimization in his picks and positions. 

Yet they're going to get the same treatment his first term team did. Infinitely higher probabilities on that than invading Canada. He'd have to change the only management style he's ever used to avoid it.

[Potato]

When a retard keeps screaming stupid shit at you with a megaphone is kind of difficult to “get used to it”.

Especially when you're deliberately seeking him out so you can listen.

Anyway, my point (as I said) was that you shouldn't have "horror" at Americans "going insane" because of Trump running his mouth when it's irrelevant. Americans have always been xenophobic, arrogant, ignorant and dismissive of other cultures/countries but you apparently didn't think them insane just a year ago when this was just as true.

[Potato]

For better or worse, a month or two ago the Canada discourse was about overwhelming immigration woes and crippling youth unemployment. Trump somehow changed the topic to…war? Probably more worse. But it seemed to boost some sense of national pride among Canadians. Who knew that existed?

There would still be overwhelming immigration...they'd just be driving tanks and firing rockets.

[Polident]

For round two, he claims he’s over that learning curve. Optimization in his picks and positions. 

Yet they're going to get the same treatment his first term team did. Infinitely higher probabilities on that than invading Canada. He'd have to change the only management style he's ever used to avoid it.

Who can say. This is what Trump claims. It’s not in his character to blame failures during his first admin on others. Integrity, honesty, and responsibility are associated with him for a reason.

There are some changes. Last time he didn’t have the heavily redacted Epstein files releasing as a season pass dlc across various d-list twitter accounts.

edit: shit. top of the page sexy…uhhh. I got nothing.

[Potato]

"American humor"



It ain't exactly South Park. It might have been funnier before the Trump admin indicated that they're pretty much realigning with Russia now.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

For the record, I always found canadian nationalism about as hollow as it gets, and there's a lot of ridiculous hysteria in that thread, but excuse me for not being amused.

I don't think you guys are really realizing just much how the ROW, except for Nintex, are looking at what's going on with horror and think you're all going insane. But you don't think about us at all, so that's fine I guess. Have fun.


/care post

You mistake what I was talking about regarding American humor about Canada, although South Park is actually a good example of it as is Canadian Bacon. It's the idea that anyone in America would care about Canada enough to be angry about it. Canada's harmless and irrelevant which is what makes it funny to be serious about it. The fact that so many Canadians get upset about this makes it even funnier.

I also think you and many others are being heavily provincial in the belief that America is "aligning with Russia" in any sense because you don't misidentify the correct part of American culture. Whatever Trump may or may not personally want he's not tapping into some pro-Russia strain because that doesn't exist at all. What Trump taps into are the xenophobic and isolationist strains in America that have always been powerful and especially have been in both parties for a long time. Trump's rhetoric about NATO has been a staple of American politics for decades. It's not because Americans are pro-Russia it's because they don't want to care about and especially don't want to pay for Europe. It's the tiny proportional ask that allows the federal government to play in other countries around the world, not some real American interest in internationalism. When Americans feel personally pressed in their circumstances they want to withdraw from the world and what they feel are its intractable constant problems. (Trump also taps into this with his general opposition to free trade.)

Why would you think we're all "going insane" because Trump is running his mouth as usual and everyone should be used to by now? He won an election, but it doesn't mean he can do whatever he wants no matter what the population wants. The guy couldn't even get his wall. His attempt to stay in office that everyone got absurd about was underpants gnomes level in its planning and organization. He just failed to get anything he proclaimed out of a budget bill that promised more spending. What's the "horror" supposed to be? That Trump is a moron who says absurd and stupid things? Yeah, duh, everybody knows this except MAGA. Why are you remotely taking any of this seriously? You really truly believe that America is about to launch an invasion of Canada to annex it because some idiot said something? And it's all part of a global hegemonic plan to link up with Russia? Seriously? Of course this is going to be mocked.

So why do you keep invading everyone then? 

"Invasion" implies that we care about their "borders" and "territory" rather than just moving our stuff around in what we own.

The motivations behind the Trump admin's actions (I'm not talking about Americans as a whole) are completely irrelevant to us, to the point where people have stopped to even try to figure out what they are. You want to withdraw from the world? Do it then. Be the autarky that you dream of. Close your market. Close your military bases. Just please stop thrashing the place while you get out. The 180 on Ukraine is absolutely disgusting stuff. Sure, it's Trump and his minions, not the US. But how can you even make the distinction now with the enabling that has been going on for years? How many of your politicians and businessmen have completely changed their tune after kissing the ring?

Why we think you're going insane? I'll give you one example. In January, both your president and his wife were involved in a massive crypto fraud. Okay, let's be generous, a massive crypto scam. Maybe I'm naive, but I'd think that in most other liberal democracies, there would have been endless uproar from the media, the population and the politicians across the spectrum. There would be a public inquiry and perhaps a criminal investigation. People wouldn't stop until a resignation. Yet, it seems barely anyone batted an eyelid.

I mean, I get it. The crowd here is too cool to care...Resistance twitter is hysteric...Canadians are hysteric..Trump is just a senile rambling moron...
I still think your gaslighting yourselves into thinking that things are more normal than they are. That your famous "checks and balances" are holding. That you're not dangerously advancing toward a point of no return.

Anyway, that's too much caring for today, Going the bed. Goodnight.

This has been startling honestly. I get all the other stuff, the US has always had a massive boner for a weird combination of isolationism and interventionism with a massive topping of exceptionalism, but the bolded just shows that the US has allowed (or never really had) its protective institutions to be so worn down and so corrupted that this kind of shit is just de rigueur.  

Anyway...

[Potato]

As an American Fuck Ukraine and Israel and Palestine fix your own messes and when Russia or China knocks on your doorsteps, maybe you should have paid what you owed!

USAian: *shits on someone's lawn*

Lawn owner:   "Man, clean up your mess, please!"

USAian: "You should clean up your own damn mess, foreigner! You wouldn't like what the Chinese will do to your lawn."

[Potato]

Maybe I'm just misremembering what it was like last time he was in charge, but things do seem to be different this time. Everything seems a lot more aggressive and a lot faster than before.

Even all this tariff garbage. We went through this before. He implemented tariffs and we implemented some targeted ones back and then after a little while everyone backed down. This time he's a lot louder about it and a lot more threatening. And for a lot of Americans it's not really a big deal because it's just Trump running his mouth again, but our economy can't handle these types of shocks as well so there's a very real chance that even just the threat will have people I know losing their jobs.

Not to mention the changes he's made to your government so that no one around him is willing to say no to any stupid idea he has, these annexation "jokes" are seeming a lot more threatening.

So I don't wanna say I'm worried exactly, but I am getting a little concerned about where things will go.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Trump has been fairly open about how lost he was when he first won. Didn’t know anybody in Washington. Trusted whatever republican person in whatever position he was told to. That extended to Pence as VP. For round two, he claims he’s over that learning curve. Optimization in his picks and positions. It isn’t helped by how badly the democrats bungled the election and past couple years. There’s no #resist. Many of those key figures from last time became (exposed as?) embarrassing assholes in the interim.

I saw “apathetic” used earlier. That’s pretty much how it is. You have republicans energized and any opposition is apathetic. To me the concerning part is the democrats and left seemingly haven’t learned a thing. ffs some of those guys are talking about running Harris again.

Cool, so we should expect the chaos of the last 12 months of his first term to last for the full four years?

[Boredfrom]

Okay, and? How should that change your opinion of the U.S. from six months ago?

I just thought it was sad.

[Boredfrom]

Entire article is a good read. It reads like KK speaking up and telling nerds to shut the fuck up because its her decision to step down.

 

KATHLEEN KENNEDY: The truth is, and I want to just say loud and clear, I am not retiring. I will never retire from movies. I will die making movies. That is the first thing that's important to say. I am not retiring. What's happening at Lucasfilm is I have been talking for quite some time with both Bob and Alan about what eventual succession might look like. We have an amazing bench of people here, and we have every intention of making an announcement months or a year down the road. We are in lockstep as to what that's going to be, and I am continuing. I'm producing Mandalorian the movie right now, and I'm also producing Sean Levy's movie, which is after that. So I'm continuing to stay at Lucasfilm and looking very thoughtfully with Bob and Alan as to who's stepping in. So that is all underway, and we have every right to make that announcement when we want to make it.

This sounds less directed to fanboys and more to company inner politics. It sounds like she is getting pushed out but she still wants to conserve her dignity.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-kathleen-kennedy-speaks-on-her-lucasfilm-plans-—-she-is-not-soon-retiring-—-the-films-that-will-keep-her-in-‘star-wars’-orbit-for-years.1121358/

Kathleen Kennedy is era Trump. She can zig zag in decisions and mismanage the studio as hell but somehow is always anyone else fault. All because she is rode the corpo feminist wave of middle 2010’s 

“The Rian Johnson trilogy is totally happening.” 

[benji]

I just thought it was sad.

But it's true?

[Jansen]

I’d gladly eat hot fudge dripping from her pussy.

[Boredfrom]

I just thought it was sad.

But it's true?

And sad. No saying this to troll or whatever.

[benji]

Eh, what can you do? That's whites for you.

[Greatness Gone]

Imagine taking retarded ass politics on a known hate site when you could be practicing your charge blade rotation 

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

sigh.. y'all still crying? Be upset about something more important.

Us wlw lovers over here waiting for the next Echos thread. 

[D3RANG3D]

[benji]

sigh.. y'all still crying? Be upset about something more important.

Us wlw lovers over here waiting for the next Echos thread. 

YouTube recommended this to me because it must suspect I'm an egg:

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Canadians,
I am so fucking sorry. Our government is terrible and equally rotten is so much of our country itself. We should never recover from this or ever be accepted or trusted as allies. It's not your responsibility to tell me, but if anyone has any advice over actionable things we Americans should be doing right now for you guys, outside of violent actions, please let me know. I'll call my reps and my senators tomorrow, but I am in Los Angeles so unfortunately there's only so far that my voice will go in that respect. I'm actively looking at citizenship in other countries to GTFO of this shitstain of a nation (namely Lithuania where I have a pathway to citizenship). I am not the victim here, you guys are, and I'm not trying to steal your space so if I should just get out of here I also totally understand. I'm sorry again :( ❤️

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