Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[benji]

My favorite thing about the burger/pasta analogy is she wrote it like she thought she was talking to children but it's overly complex and confusing when it could have been expressed in a sentence or two. Also half of it or more is unnecessary to the point.

[DavidCroquet]

[benji]

In any case, I notice that a lot of people are not donating to my ko-fi even though I read the basic theory of her posts and organized bringing the wisdom to The Bire. Like they imagine the brilliance of Nepenthe's analysis is alone sustenance for my body. As if they don't read my demands to live with a RTX 5090.

[BIONIC]

How the fuck does this cunt have the time and will power to write all that drivel in less than a single fucking day?

Wow, you didn’t have to do benji like that

[benji]

How the fuck does this cunt have the time and will power to write all that drivel in less than a single fucking day?

Wow, you didn’t have to do benji like that

Roast these losers Jeff!

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlasintel-disapproval-of-trump-is-at-83-for-people-who-didnt-vote-in-2024.1140855/page-8#post-137341845

How best to actually, realistically, tangibly change the system than electing people in positions that give them the levers to do so? You seem to be conflating engaging with the system with perpetuating the system.

Again, with Obama, you're back to simply talking only about presidential elections despite me trying to make you think wider. The speed and ease at which Trump is dismantling the American system and rebuild it as a full-blown fascist state isn't just because he was elected as President. It's because Republicans have been electing and installing MAGA extremists at all levels of governance to wave these changes through.

Now imagine if such a movement had been built around producing the positive change I believe we would both want. Around changing the current system to make it fairer and more democratic, not more hateful and authoritarian. Yes, it would require Democratic leaders to step the fuck up. Yes, it would require organisation. But it would also require people to engage with the current system, with the intent of building a better one.

I don't think you can tangibly separate participation with perpetuation with something as complex as an entire political system, no more than you can make a car a boat if you simply put a naval captain in the passenger's seat. The issue with systems after a certain degree of mass is that they're self-perpetuating as a matter of convenience and bias on part of its participants and the boundaries of its rules and culture.

For example, sure individual police officers aren't all biased, but they've gotta make quota, and it just so happens to be that it's easier to do so in crime-riddled areas, and crime correlates with poverty, and it just so happens that we're a country that has historically denied Black and Brown people the wealth that they actually labored for, so yannooooo... I mean, is that really racist to overpolice these areas?

Putting the "right people" in positions of power doesn't mean much if they are unable to actually engage in materialism like the above and understand the innumerable relationships between the characteristics that make up society and the political system within which it rests. It also doesn't mean much if they aren't actually on my side.

No seriously. People keep saying that they want the same things I want, and I don't think they do. Ultimately, I want the dismantling of Western capitalism and return of full blown autonomy of the Global South to the people who live there so that they can develop their societies on their land how they wish. I fundamentally don't think most people here actually want that. I think they are just fine living in a world of this much inequality, and are only working to ensure that the lucky minorities who live within the borders of the West and are popular enough to galvanize attention and sympathy get access to the spoils of capitalism too.

Again, what do you specifically want?

Is it really that much to ask?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I voted for PSL! Why do my people and I get called out by B-dubs but not Nep and the non-voters?!

[killamajig]

Nep trying to give Benji a stroke, reading that slop.

[benji]

Ultimately, I want the dismantling of Western capitalism and return of full blown autonomy of the Global South to the people who live there so that they can develop their societies on their land how they wish. I fundamentally don't think most people here actually want that.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-were-out-or-job-options-and-had-no-other-choice-would-you-be-a-cop.1141431/page-3#post-137327052

Hey Black person.

Me: Yes?

You wanna be a slave catcher?

Me: No-no? Wtf?

What if it was your only choice or else you'd be in poverty?! What than, huh?!!!

Me: Why are you entertaining slave catching like this? I just wanted to exist in joy.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-were-out-or-job-options-and-had-no-other-choice-would-you-be-a-cop.1141431/page-3#post-137327052

Hey Black person.

Me: Yes?

You wanna be a slave catcher?

Me: No-no? Wtf?

What if it was your only choice or else you'd be in poverty?! What than, huh?!!!

Me: Why are you entertaining slave catching like this? I just wanted to exist in joy.

Hey, remember when you tried to send the slave catchers after me for making fun of you?

[benji]

To be fair, she's correct that electing Democrats in the United States won't end capitalism everywhere or whatever that shit about the Global South is supposed to mean.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Is she calling her parents "retarded"?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-retailers-drop-dei-some-black-customers-drop-them-nbc-news.1141872/#post-137340624

Wanted The Wild Robot Blu-Ray.

Realized the only immediate places to have gotten it were Walmart and Target, since Best Buy's film section is gone.

Drove half an hour away to a Barnes and Noble instead.

Also, in doing this search for a brick-and-mortar store that still sells movies, I found a really cool video rental joint; went there today and came home with Paprika and Suzume. In cutting myself off from certain places, I've been finding some local gems that much better deserve my support.

[DavidCroquet]

I’m imagining one of those Onion political cartoons, where tearful and AIDS-ridden members of the global south gratefully smile through the window of Crazy Ernie’s Books & More as Nepenthe heroically purchases a lightly-chewed bluray copy of Suzume at an absurd markup.

[Snoopy]

Is she calling her parents "retarded"?

If only those people who commissioned fur suits from her could say the same

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

To be fair, she's correct that electing Democrats in the United States won't end capitalism everywhere or whatever that shit about the Global South is supposed to mean.

White America needs to burn before the global south can be free. If all it takes is a trans genocide then it's for the greater good.

[killamajig]

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/you-can-only-use-one-type-of-mustard-for-the-rest-of-your-life-which-is-it.1141917/

We have fun.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Honey is the only choice.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

they really need to do something about plagiarize. I don't know how Nep can feel safe with a bootlicker on their mod team.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/caught-on-video-driver-cuts-off-harasses-tesla-owner-in-seattle-area.1141191/#post-137314725

User banned (1 week): victim blaming

You been a clown for owning a Tesla from jump so I don't feel bad

https://www.resetera.com/threads/caught-on-video-driver-cuts-off-harasses-tesla-owner-in-seattle-area.1141191/#post-137315682

User banned (1 week): victim blaming

Where's the before video? Maybe the Tesla driver was being an asshole or had Nazi shit on her car.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/caught-on-video-driver-cuts-off-harasses-tesla-owner-in-seattle-area.1141191/page-4#post-137336994

User banned (1 week): victim blaming

People that already bought Teslas or buy used Teslas does not pump new money to Nazis. But you are suggesting people buy gas cars which supports another form of shitty capitalism.

People who want to drive in a nazi mobile should just expect the ire of the public then or if they have a fucking clue should sell now

https://www.resetera.com/threads/caught-on-video-driver-cuts-off-harasses-tesla-owner-in-seattle-area.1141191/page-5#post-137340642

User banned (1 week): victim blaming

KEEP IT UP

Any US citizen rocking a fucking Tesla in 2025– nor matter when they bought it— should be made painfully aware of who they're enriching.

Honestly, same goes for those who own stocks of any Musk-connected companies.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

B-dubs caping for Tesla now? Who on the mod team owns one?

[Shecky Fragbaum]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlasintel-disapproval-of-trump-is-at-83-for-people-who-didnt-vote-in-2024.1140855/page-7#post-137338899

Since you tried not voting against it, maybe you could try prayer next.
It's just as effective at enacting change.

No thanks. I'm not religious.

Are you sure? You seem to be doing a lot of magical thinking.

Insulting me isn't actually addressing the analysis I've given.

I also noticed you didn't answer the first two questions.

Are you here to participate like an adult, or take out your anger on an easy target like a child?

Fucking obliterated her.

Lol at calling yourself an easy target. And here I used to think she lacked self-awareness.

A Black female *[NON-BINARY] essential worker.


Easy target? Jean-Claude had better watch his chiseled European ass.

[imsotired]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlasintel-disapproval-of-trump-is-at-83-for-people-who-didnt-vote-in-2024.1140855/page-8#post-137341845

How best to actually, realistically, tangibly change the system than electing people in positions that give them the levers to do so? You seem to be conflating engaging with the system with perpetuating the system.

Again, with Obama, you're back to simply talking only about presidential elections despite me trying to make you think wider. The speed and ease at which Trump is dismantling the American system and rebuild it as a full-blown fascist state isn't just because he was elected as President. It's because Republicans have been electing and installing MAGA extremists at all levels of governance to wave these changes through.

Now imagine if such a movement had been built around producing the positive change I believe we would both want. Around changing the current system to make it fairer and more democratic, not more hateful and authoritarian. Yes, it would require Democratic leaders to step the fuck up. Yes, it would require organisation. But it would also require people to engage with the current system, with the intent of building a better one.

I don't think you can tangibly separate participation with perpetuation with something as complex as an entire political system, no more than you can make a car a boat if you simply put a naval captain in the passenger's seat. The issue with systems after a certain degree of mass is that they're self-perpetuating as a matter of convenience and bias on part of its participants and the boundaries of its rules and culture.

For example, sure individual police officers aren't all biased, but they've gotta make quota, and it just so happens to be that it's easier to do so in crime-riddled areas, and crime correlates with poverty, and it just so happens that we're a country that has historically denied Black and Brown people the wealth that they actually labored for, so yannooooo... I mean, is that really racist to overpolice these areas?

Putting the "right people" in positions of power doesn't mean much if they are unable to actually engage in materialism like the above and understand the innumerable relationships between the characteristics that make up society and the political system within which it rests. It also doesn't mean much if they aren't actually on my side.

No seriously. People keep saying that they want the same things I want, and I don't think they do. Ultimately, I want the dismantling of Western capitalism and return of full blown autonomy of the Global South to the people who live there so that they can develop their societies on their land how they wish. I fundamentally don't think most people here actually want that. I think they are just fine living in a world of this much inequality, and are only working to ensure that the lucky minorities who live within the borders of the West and are popular enough to galvanize attention and sympathy get access to the spoils of capitalism too.

Again, what do you specifically want?

Is it really that much to ask?

I wonder why most people don't want to return to subsistence agriculture that would result in the death of the majority of the population of said global south?  Maybe they looked at what the population of the global south was before capitalism and the agriculture improvements that came with industrialization.  It would be mass poverty and hundreds of millions of dead because without global trade large portions of the world cannot feed themselves nor can they grow crops on their marginal land without importing modern fertilizer.

[Daffy Duck]

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This was never about whether Kamala Harris was a good candidate.
It was about whether you'd rather have her or Donald Trump in power.
You made that choice when you didn't vote.

Wrong.

Not voting for either candidate because of the valid reasons explained previously does not mean they wanted Trump over Harris. That's just factually wrong.

For the 200th time, it is the job of the candidate to get your vote. The voter doesn't owe them a damn thing.

If you want the support of voters who are struggling financially, you need to give them a reason to believe you'll fix their issues.

If you want the support of voters who had the ongoing genocide as their top priority, you can't openly support said genocide and belittle those who want it to end.

We had three elections in a row where the democratic strategy was "at least were not Trump." It failed twice. (And let's be honest, it only worked in 2020 because of the pandemic.)

At a certain point, you have to stop pointing figures at everyone else, reflect on why people don't want to vote for your party, and start listening to your base.

And if you didn’t vote for anyone, then kindly, shut the fuck up, you have zero right to complain about anything Trump does.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Ultimately, I want the dismantling of Western capitalism and return of full blown autonomy of the Global South to the people who live there so that they can develop their societies on their land how they wish. I fundamentally don't think most people here actually want that.

This guy fucks wants to dismantle capitalism.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlasintel-disapproval-of-trump-is-at-83-for-people-who-didnt-vote-in-2024.1140855/page-8#post-137341845
[quote=Nepenthe]

No seriously. People keep saying that they want the same things I want, and I don't think they do. Ultimately, I want the dismantling of Western capitalism and return of full blown autonomy of the Global South to the people who live there so that they can develop their societies on their land how they wish. I fundamentally don't think most people here actually want that. I think they are just fine living in a world of this much inequality, and are only working to ensure that the lucky minorities who live within the borders of the West and are popular enough to galvanize attention and sympathy get access to the spoils of capitalism too.

Again, what do you specifically want?

Is it really that much to ask?

She's such a fucking retard and so racist against actual Africans. She genuinely believes it's only western colonialists that are preventing African people from intentionally regressing to subsistence farming and hunter gatherer societies.

[Besticus Maximus]

So nepenthe is a libertarian now

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlasintel-disapproval-of-trump-is-at-83-for-people-who-didnt-vote-in-2024.1140855/page-5#post-137319669

Currently my life has remained stable. How's Trump working out for you?

Dismissing Concerns of minorities, Inflammatory Commentary, Trolling in a sensitive thread, Long history of histories, Prior threadbans for similar posts

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