Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-t-a-all-women-wlw-fighting-game-like-dead-or-alive-for-women.1192314/

This thread just keeps getting better:

We have Jeff coming in trying to White Knight:

This is the second time this week I've seen you go after someone because you dont like their threads.

Get over yourself and stop clicking their threads if you're bothered by them.

We have truth being spoken:

Capcom confirm Cammy lesbian/after I realized I was a lesbian/I have a crush on this fighting game character/I have a crush on this cartoon villain/hey WLW of resetera/recommend me some WLW fiction/please don't be lewd in my thread about how sexually attracted I am to video game characters...

It does get a little old after a while.

And finally, users starting to ask the real questions:

So I've kinda wanted to ask this for a while but never knew the right time or place. Please do excuse my ignorance.

What is the difference between the way a lesbian or WLW would sexualize a character design versus how a straight guy would design/sexualize them? Is it just the diversity in body types/aesthetic or is there something deeper I'm missing?

People finally speaking up and getting sick of Echos fantasizing about their lesbian fetishes all over the forum on a daily basis.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/

Whatever pain he suffers is nothing compared to what he did to the people of Gaza.

May it be long and deadly.

Somehow I suspect he never had such harsh words for Hamas

[benji]

Story I heard on the grapevine is that Kirsche's lawyer reached out to Vice about it.

And I imagine Vice doesn't want to risk being the next Gawker - Don't you love the smell of a good Chilling Effect in the morning?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vice-vtubing-has-an-elephant-in-the-room-bigotry-up-vtuber-loses-crime-boss-rc-sponsorship-due-to-views-game-now-review-bombed.1184985/post-139990194

1. You can literally look at Kirsche's social media and see she has no lawyer and sent the multi-page document (which only at the end has one sentence about legal action) herself to Vice.
2. Deleting an article doesn't protect you from a defamation suit, nor would Vice doing anything protect Valens from a suit considering how much he put on social media about this. (In other words, if the goal is some billionaire ruining Vice and/or Valens personally with a magic lawsuit of money, that has not been prevented.)

[StandingOvation]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/

I'll be normal when you fucks stop whitewashing a genocidal war criminal.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/

Whatever pain he suffers is nothing compared to what he did to the people of Gaza.
May it be long and deadly.

Somehow I suspect he never had such harsh words for Hamas

A lot of pushback happening to this post

[Alpacx]

And finally, users starting to ask the real questions:

So I've kinda wanted to ask this for a while but never knew the right time or place. Please do excuse my ignorance.

What is the difference between the way a lesbian or WLW would sexualize a character design versus how a straight guy would design/sexualize them? Is it just the diversity in body types/aesthetic or is there something deeper I'm missing?

People finally speaking up and getting sick of Echos fantasizing about her lesbian fetishes all over the forum in a daily basis.

Would have liked it if an actual woman was the one JAQing off (to use the Progressive phrase) about Echos fetishism but I'll take what I can get

[Jansen]

Time for dismissing concerns bans

[Jansen]

He is 80+ and has access to the best healthcare imaginable



The average age in Gaza is like 19. Their hospitals were deliberately shellacked with bombs provided by him



I'm withholding my instinct to empathise

Not shedding any tears after what he willfully enabled in Gaza, the deaths and suffering of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands.



I bet the people grandstanding wouldn't be offering sympathies if it was Trump in his place, just because it's cancer.

Go fuck yourself

[Jansen]

[Propagandhim]

I'm not going to humanize people who dehuminaze millions of people.

fuck that

genocide happened because of him

asking for civility in the face of that is monstrous

Zero sympathy for the horror he caused in Gaza. I value the 100's thousands of CHILDREN dying, then this vile disgusting war criminal suffering from cancer

I'm not going to humanize people who dehuminaze millions of people.

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into the void, the void gazes also into you"

[killamajig]

[benji]

They really still think Biden could have stopped Israel from responding to October 7th?

[Taco Bell Tower]

To be clear, this is not a joke post and please don't use their thread to be weird or lewd. I'm also not talking about porn in this thread.


I have been going through some soul searching the past few days confronting a big anxiety of mine I've had for over a decade. If you've ever read my threads about fighting games, you probably can tell I'm a big proponent against objectification and heavy sexualization of women in fighting games. "sexy" shouldn't be a requirement for all fighting game women, fighting game women should be allowed to be over/look over 30 (looking directly at you Bandai Namco), not all women need sexualized clothing and men players don't need "rewards", cameras need to be less leery, fat women should be allowed in the games, old women, androgynous women, trans women, ugly women, scary women, women of all body types etc.

However, there has always been a part of me that makes me feel like a hypocrite, a liar and a shame to others; like I feel like I'm letting down other women who push for the same stuff, including a few users and mods here that I respect dearly; that I have to hide, downplay or constantly explain away my like for women characters that are many times some of the main sources of the objectification. That if people knew I liked them, they dismiss my critiques which frustratingly has happened.

However, more and more over the years, especially after realizing that I was a lesbian and after much soul searching and looking for advice in other threads and elsewhere online; I shouldn't feel guilty about this, I shouldn't feel shame or worry about people calling me a hypocrite. I can like Catwoman without wanting every woman to be Catwoman. I love Morrigan from DarkStalkers, she was a childhood crush of mine (though I wish they undo her flanderization and let her have her dorky and heroic self back), I love Cammy (though men fans being weird about her bum annoy me) and though her cat stretch in SF6 adorable and something I've done in the past (REVEAL HER AS LESBIAN CAPCOM!!!!):


I love Manon, she is amazing, another crush of mine and everything I'd want in a girlfriend (I admit that Manon thread was me testing the water). I think Mileena is MK's best character and she and Tanya are amazing together. Venessa is awesome. I want to look like Anna Williams, I wish I had that body, I wish I could look that stunning, Makoto from Blazblue is a great character despite no way can I justify her costume (her being canon queer, flirts with the trans woman Mai and has a fun personality). Do I want every character like that? No, but I can't deny I love these characters.

And this gets to the main point of the thread (sorry it took so long and the preamble), this was actually inspired by another user; and it got me too thinking about this and… I would like a Dead or Alive that was MADE FOR LESBIANS AND WLW, BY LESBIANS AND WLW. I've said to myself it's a game I would never play… But I can't deny I would love it and know many wlw and lesbians would also love it.

You can argue Dead or Alive or other T&A fighters like SNK's SNK Heroines already fit that bill; but at least from my perspective, those games are pretty clearly made first and foremost for the titillation and enjoyment of men (and one of the reasons why had to stop playing DOA was because it got too much) and while lesbians and wlw can enjoy that, it's not the same as stuff made for wlw and lesbians by lesbians and wlw. There is a vibe difference; a lack of leeriness, writing quirks and just attitudes you see and feel in art and stories drawn & written by men or for men (and in my experience, often just has a more fun, loving and compassionate feeling to it… same with mlm/gay art and writing).

I wouldn't want it to be an exact carbon copy of DOA (for one thing I'm not a fan of volleyball, Water polo is more fun, Captain Archer agrees).


I want more story, I want a lesbian/wlw dating sim where you grow relationships, go on dates, have cute and fun adventures, be tag partners in tournaments or even rivals etc. I want fun mini games like dancing (either a disco like one or a romantic), something like Fire Emblem's Three Houses's tea part mechanics but maybe it's at a burger bar or diner. I want more cute moments of the characters interacting.

And I'd still want more body types and diversity; I want characters like Rika from Pokémon, a stoic warrior like a Sister of Battle or VF's Vanessa, a big and buff woman like Marisa from SF6, a stylish Androgynous woman, a elegant autistic woman like Symmetra, the dashing rogue pirate lady, The creepy girl who loves spiders and the occult, the snarky "crazy" lady with the wicked smile, a femme fatale, a villainess that fits into the Doronjo trope, the Edelgard, a larger/fat woman who feels no shame, a silverhaired woman in her 50s/60s who still looks stunning and proud, a goth woman, the cool as fuck street artist/musician, a punk/Jolyne Cujoh woman, the snooty rival with the blonde ringlets, the fun outgoing sporty Goku-like best friend, the quirky vtuber, the sing/dancing friend to all animals nature lover, the furry fan, the shy dork, a fun wrestler like Tina Armstrong etc etc all lesbians or wlw… Actually I just named an entire roster's worth of examples… Oops.

Sadly, I just don't ever see a game like this happen, at least not from the AAA, not with male gaze being pushed onto it by publishers to make it more "marketable" and "appeal to our core demographic (men)"; outside of the indie scene I feel like it would get compromised (not to mention being live serviced).

But I feel it should exist; and I don't feel shame in saying that (similarly, a mlm/gay man version should also exist, so many gay men I know would love that if it was full of bears and arm guys).

Hope I haven't let anyone down posting this.

Wasn't enough to just post it in the Womens thread.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-t-a-all-women-wlw-fighting-game-like-dead-or-alive-for-women.1192314/

That title

I would love a T&A

Ree are against T&A, see Why Women thread.

[DavidCroquet]

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And finally, users starting to ask the real questions:

So I've kinda wanted to ask this for a while but never knew the right time or place. Please do excuse my ignorance.

What is the difference between the way a lesbian or WLW would sexualize a character design versus how a straight guy would design/sexualize them? Is it just the diversity in body types/aesthetic or is there something deeper I'm missing?

People finally speaking up and getting sick of Echos fantasizing about her lesbian fetishes all over the forum in a daily basis.

Would have liked it if an actual woman was the one JAQing off (to use the Progressive phrase) about Echos fetishism but I'll take what I can get

fwiw i have deduced that popoi is a woman.

[Daffy Duck]

The difference between the female gaze and male gaze, I imagine.

Lmao

[benji]

I'm not going to humanize people who dehuminaze millions of people.

What are your feelings on whites? Males in general? Zionists?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/whats-the-point-of-dragon-quest-viii.1192311/

Im about 20 hours in, and at first I was enjoying the cosy vibes. Journeying across a land to chase a dude to get rid of a curse.

But it feels like the game has ground to a complete halt to force me through a half dozen filler episodes.

We need info, lets go to smart guy in thief town. Oh No our horse got stolen in thief town. Oh No the thief sold it. Oh No, the buyer ALSO sold it. the last buyer wants a gem, so we go through a lengthy and unremarkable dungeon to get the gem. Now we go to smart guy and learn hes over an ocean.

lets get a boat! Oh No we found a boat but its beached How do we unbeach it? lets go to a castle and hope theres a book. we found a book! it says there used to be water. that doesnt help.

Wowee, lucky moonshadow door portal! Now the elf dude can use the memory of the ocean to make the boat pretend its on water or something. Oh No elfs magical harp broke lets go find it.

Crystal ball mate says our depressed king friend has it. OH NO it was stolen from king friend??! Now we go chase some moles in a hole and one of them sings and its awful and DOES THIS EVER FUCKING END?!

Jesus tapdancing christ game what are you doing?

Is this a recurring thing? Is this forever? Is it just menial tasks that are constantly waylaid by more tasks until we punch Dhoulmagus on the face?

It doesnt help that the rpg systems are downright archaic. What the heck is this leveling system where you blindly assign points and hope for useful skills? was it designed to sell guides?

Buys jrpg. Complains when jrpg does jrpg things. 

 "You're a fucking retard!"

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-t-a-all-women-wlw-fighting-game-like-dead-or-alive-for-women.1192314/#post-140150142

also she'd fuck me. this is what real lesbians think about all things, yes i am very normal

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-t-a-all-women-wlw-fighting-game-like-dead-or-alive-for-women.1192314/#post-140150142

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_(professional_wrestling)

[benji]

Ah, yes, the "queer coded nature" of "villainesses" I remember those episodes:

@halwasserman7905
1 year ago
Why are evil women always sexualized? It makes no sense that mirror Kira would be a nymphomaniac unless the people who made the show associated sexuality with evil. And there is no question that was the case in the 20th century. I think here in the 21st century we have finally gotten past that. Also sexualizing Kira just doesn't work anyway. Nana Visitor was a good actress but she wasn't sexy. That's not intended as an insult. Not everyone is sexy. And that's okay.

Wow, look at this fascist erasing wlw.

[Propagandhim]

Cancer is a horrible illness. I lost my fiance to it when I was 25 and it was one of the hardest things I ever faced. Anybody in this thread celebrating Joe Biden getting cancer, just know that.... hell yeah I'm right there with you. Absolutely fuck the shit out of this piss ass war criminal. Hope it hurts too.

Erode your moral character and rejoice in someone's suffering through illness, seems like a one-way loss to me, dude.  What will come out of this but you getting used to a new level of bitterness and cruelty that you have to drag around with you.  Even if you accept that Joe Biden was the deciding factor for the retaliation in Gaza (lol), don't even understand how holding someone accountable for that is compatible with celebrating an illness - nothing is going to reform the situation if you're just celebrating one guy's suffering.  You're just a petty, vindictive, asshole that is happy to drag your own character down.   For people constantly going on about forcibly transforming society, the thing staring them in the face, that they actually have control over, that they can actually make a dent in their contribution toward -- normalizing the celebration of an opponent's suffering, which leads to a shittier, more cruel, cold, and vindictive society to live in, is what they decide to do.

[Superstar]

The word genocide has been used so much on this fourm it's starting to lose its impact/meaning

Post in thread 'Joe Biden Diagnosed With an Aggressive Form of Prostate Cancer' https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/page-4#post-140150313

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/page-5#post-140150901

Not pearl clutching but I feel like it's just a negative for a person's 'self' to cheer on the suffering of someone. You can be impartial or even 'relieved' at someone who you think has done a lot of harm dying, but I think sometimes the forum goes too far into the 'i hope this person suffers and dies from cancer' direction.

[benji]

Cancer is a horrible illness. I lost my fiance to it when I was 25 and it was one of the hardest things I ever faced. Anybody in this thread celebrating Joe Biden getting cancer, just know that.... hell yeah I'm right there with you. Absolutely fuck the shit out of this piss ass war criminal. Hope it hurts too.

Erode your moral character and rejoice in someone's suffering through illness, seems like a one-way loss to me, dude.  What will come out of this but you getting used to a new level of bitterness and cruelty that you have to drag around with you.  Even if you accept that Joe Biden was the deciding factor for the retaliation in Gaza (lol), don't even understand how holding someone accountable for that is compatible with celebrating an illness - nothing is going to reform the situation if you're just celebrating one guy's suffering.  You're just a petty, vindictive, asshole that is happy to drag your own character down.   For people that constantly going on about forcibly transforming society, the thing staring them in the face, that they actually have control over, that they can actually make a dent in their contribution toward -- normalizing the celebration of an opponent's suffering, which leads to a shittier, more cruel, cold, and vindictive society to live in, is what they decide to do.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/page-5#post-140150901

Not pearl clutching but I feel like it's just a negative for a person's 'self' to cheer on the suffering of someone. You can be impartial or even 'relieved' at someone who you think has done a lot of harm dying, but I think sometimes the forum goes too far into the 'i hope this person suffers and dies from cancer' direction.

It comforts them in their self-imposed lack of control to think the universe has will and agency and shares their morals so is inflicting pain on people they don't like. And this should make others fear the wrath of the universe too if they displease those in tune with the Cosmic Order. That forum is about little else. The right side of history.

[Jansen]

Damn man. Y'all ain't helping!

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/page-6
I was planning to post some good ones, but there are just too many. 

inb4 the lock

[HaughtyFrank]

Cancer is a horrible illness. I lost my fiance to it when I was 25 and it was one of the hardest things I ever faced. Anybody in this thread celebrating Joe Biden getting cancer, just know that.... hell yeah I'm right there with you. Absolutely fuck the shit out of this piss ass war criminal. Hope it hurts too.

Erode your moral character and rejoice in someone's suffering through illness, seems like a one-way loss to me, dude.  What will come out of this but you getting used to a new level of bitterness and cruelty that you have to drag around with you.  Even if you accept that Joe Biden was the deciding factor for the retaliation in Gaza (lol), don't even understand how holding someone accountable for that is compatible with celebrating an illness - nothing is going to reform the situation if you're just celebrating one guy's suffering.  You're just a petty, vindictive, asshole that is happy to drag your own character down.   For people constantly going on about forcibly transforming society, the thing staring them in the face, that they actually have control over, that they can actually make a dent in their contribution toward -- normalizing the celebration of an opponent's suffering, which leads to a shittier, more cruel, cold, and vindictive society to live in, is what they decide to do.

Bringing up the death of your fiance like this honestly feels more fucked than just saying that you're happy Biden has cancer. Like yeah, I'm sure that's how she wants to be remembered, to make petty internet arguments about how you really hope Biden dies

[Swiftest]

Oh no bro that's not subtle enough 

[Swiftest]

Oops double post