Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[El Derpo]

I can’t get over how accurate this is within the context of Era moderation.

Do they really, for any second, think it would make the obsessively posting about lesbians, wanting to date lesbians and wishing that video characters are lesbians (Capcom announce Cammy as a lesbian!!!), less creepy if the person posting identifies as trans online?

Every thread like the creepy WLW t&a game thread that goes on with anyone who pushes back slightly getting banned, just encourages the behaviour. 

Also there is totally a discord where they coordinate reports and bans and people to reply to Kyuuji saying “oh my god so well said exactly”. It’s fucking weird.

[Daffy Duck]

Took me years to watch it but I loved the first, can modern Disney stick the politics?

Considering how they very publicly shelved a trans character, and then proceed to promote their first "Openly christian one", I'd say yes... but not the ones you'd

lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/first-poster-for-zootopia-2-nov-26-teaser-tomorrow.1193340/#post-140190282

[benji]

Took me years to watch it but I loved the first, can modern Disney stick the politics?

Considering how they very publicly shelved a trans character, and then proceed to promote their first "Openly christian one", I'd say yes... but not the ones you'd

lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/first-poster-for-zootopia-2-nov-26-teaser-tomorrow.1193340/#post-140190282

The politics of the first film are kind of fucked if you think about it. It touches on some real issues but handles it in some very heavy handed Disney fashion.

I mean....

I like Zootopia a lot but the politics are kind of...muddy.

Zootopia and Beastars are similar in that way.

Correct me if wrong (or media illiterate) but the overall message I took from the movie was that of racial prejudice seen through the lens of a society that use predation as a method of job placement?

Hmm... if indeed this is what you're referring to then damn that is pretty fucked up

Does it matter if it's heavy-handed when the world is still pretty racist? :(

Oh no, not imperfect politics in my mega budget corporate copaganda film.  

If Judy and Nick aren't arming up to wage a direct action street battle at the homes of the police and its right-wing supporters to eliminate any forms of law enforcement from Zootopia then FUCK DISNEY and FUCK ZASLAV*, I'm only going to purchase and watch this fascist shit when it comes to Disney+! I'll save my theater going for community building theory-based franchises like Bluey.

*also FUCK ISRAEL and FUCK TERFS

[Boredfrom]

I support folks' rights to have this and also call for an "oops all femboys" sword and sorcery game.

There's definitely a distinction between sexy and gross.

[Boredfrom]

Yeah some things I predicted, but I didn't predict they would be this relentless on anything loosely associated with DEI.

It went from them saying "X person is a DEI hire" (the age old affirmative action attack of an supposed unqualified black person) to somehow claiming DEI is actually institutional discrimination and it has to be rooted out root and stem in every corner of the country. The former is mostly just noise but the latter is extremely dangerous potentially setting minorities and women back decades in terms of opportunities and resources.

What's been really sad is that white America, even supposed allies, have been mostly indifferent about it at best. They'll say things like, "I'm not against DEI, but....[insert situation that annoyed them]. If white America actually cared about the contributions of women and minorities, they would have pushed back immediately when Trump started attacking DEI policies. But it was mostly met with quiet agreement even if they didn't agree with the exact execution Trump was doing.

While I think DEI has its place… you guys not only did a shit job defending it but it sounds like you understand is a badly done band aid.

The fact that you are sure that Trump actions will it “set women and minorities back decades” makes me think you don’t even believe how effective these policies were.  

Is also tiring how the left efforts seem to not prioritize free speech in their fight against Trump trying to impose himself on colleges. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nyt-justice-department-to-use-false-claims-act-to-pursue-institutions-over-diversity-efforts.1193667/

 Its getting more and more terrifying every day here.

I have no idea what to do.

 

But you keep insisting your job is useful  (but don’t mention where you work anymore).

[benji]

to somehow claiming DEI is actually institutional discrimination

What happened to "it is and that's a good thing" now we're already back to pretending it's not?

"Positions should be awarded based on what race or gender identity the person has. This is not discrimination. And without it these irredeemably racist and sexist institutions that implemented it without being told to will eliminate everyone but white cis men from their positions."

[Boredfrom]

If white America actually cared about the contributions of women and minorities, they would have pushed back immediately when Trump started attacking DEI policies.

I mean, people totally do when is about Trump blaming a plane crash on DEI.  

People seem to actually hate when Trump is a racist prick. You know people disagree with these policies not because they are clueless CHUDs blaming the bad quality of slop on vague DEI claims.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ivf-clinic-bombed-in-palm-springs-ca-1-dead.1192164/#post-140126931

Lot of weird desert people out there who would probably do something like this.

[Polident]

to somehow claiming DEI is actually institutional discrimination

What happened to "it is and that's a good thing" now we're already back to pretending it's not?

"Positions should be awarded based on what race or gender identity the person has. This is not discrimination. And without it these irredeemably racist and sexist institutions that implemented it without being told to will eliminate everyone but white cis men from their positions."

Inevitable people turn against this stuff because they see the reality in practice. No matter how long you call something the “objectively good and correct policy”, when the results are bullshit nonsense, it’s difficult to keep fooling them. “Fool me…you can’t get fooled again.”

[benji]

If white America actually cared about the contributions of women and minorities, they would have pushed back immediately when Trump started attacking DEI policies.

Third option: they judge those contributions by their merits rather than the demographics of those presenting them?

Feel like there was a really famous guy who said something like this once. Probably some fucking centrist lib who wanted people to vote or some other useless shit like that. 

[Potato]

I support folks' rights to have this and also call for an "oops all femboys" sword and sorcery game.

There's definitely a distinction between sexy and gross.

Isn't that just Castlevania?

[Daffy Duck]

Oh we are annoyed

It really is parody at this point, and depressing for how 'emperor's new clothes' it all feels. We're at the point where women are legally defined by a childlike assessment of biology, people are being moved to question anyone they think isn't feminine enough to be a real woman, and now women's conferences are being cancelled because they can't resolve an 'issue' that's never had an impact on them. All spoken of as some great victory for women and clarity, rather than the bigoted disaster it is.

Hahahah, love it. All because labour cancel their women’s conference because they wanted the trans women not to attend.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-political-era-2024-ot1-starmergeddon.928968/page-182#post-140214804

[HaughtyFrank]

Oh we are annoyed

It really is parody at this point, and depressing for how 'emperor's new clothes' it all feels. We're at the point where women are legally defined by a childlike assessment of biology, people are being moved to question anyone they think isn't feminine enough to be a real woman, and now women's conferences are being cancelled because they can't resolve an 'issue' that's never had an impact on them. All spoken of as some great victory for women and clarity, rather than the bigoted disaster it is.

Hahahah, love it. All because labour cancel their women’s conference because they wanted the trans women not to attend.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-political-era-2024-ot1-starmergeddon.928968/page-182#post-140214804

Plus, to rub it all in, "transwoman" and "transman" across the whole thing.

"And just to rub it all in, I'll focus on the most meaningless detail possible. A missing blank space. No idea why our movement gets a bad rep"

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ivf-clinic-bombed-in-palm-springs-ca-1-dead.1192164/#post-140126931

Lot of weird desert people out there who would probably do something like this.

Maybe he's talking about Jawa's or Tusken Raiders

[Snoopy]

The routine changes based on the day and what I'm doing (and where), but it's primarily:

- Run through mobile MSN app rewards while making a coffee and my son's breakfast (~5 mins)
- When I log onto work in the morning and join my daily call I launch MS Solitaire on my laptop (any "Xbox" game will work though) and leave it open for at least 15 mins (but I don't need to do anything... just let it run while I work)
- Go through Bing searches on my laptop on Edge (30 total per day). Most I get by just doing what I would normally need to search for, but I have a list of bookmarked searches that I can use to max it out. (~5 mins if I need to run through my bookmarked searches)
- Launch Xbox app on mobile to claim daily check-in and PC game/Game Pass rewards (from Solitaire). Also play a round of Jewel at some point in the day if I feel like it. (~5 mins if I play Jewel)
- At some point in the day I play a game on Xbox console for at least 15 mins, but most days this get it done by my kids when they are playing and use my account in the background.

That's more or less what I do each day, along with ensuring I play at least 8 different Game Pass games in a month (which I pretty much do naturally anyways). The Reward tasks have changed quite a bit over the years, so the routine has adjusted along with it to some degree, but even with missing my dailies here and there I get more than enough points to claim a month of GPU every month. It's better point wise to redeem 3 months of PC Game Pass though and let it convert to 60 days of GPU.

Imagine doing this nonsense every day just to get a free month of Gamepass

[Boredfrom]

I support folks' rights to have this and also call for an "oops all femboys" sword and sorcery game.

There's definitely a distinction between sexy and gross.

Isn't that just Castlevania?

 

Wha?

[Bootsthecat]

I do the Xbox portion of wat is listed above for couple years now. Got $100 ms gift card last year, on track for another $100 this year. Takes literally 2 mins a day. Free money good. I play the credit card points 'games' as well, though that is more involved. It all adds up, with little time sacrifice

[killamajig]

Oh we are annoyed

It really is parody at this point, and depressing for how 'emperor's new clothes' it all feels. We're at the point where women are legally defined by a childlike assessment of biology, people are being moved to question anyone they think isn't feminine enough to be a real woman, and now women's conferences are being cancelled because they can't resolve an 'issue' that's never had an impact on them. All spoken of as some great victory for women and clarity, rather than the bigoted disaster it is.

Hahahah, love it. All because labour cancel their women’s conference because they wanted the trans women not to attend.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-political-era-2024-ot1-starmergeddon.928968/page-182#post-140214804

Plus, to rub it all in, "transwoman" and "transman" across the whole thing.

"And just to rub it all in, I'll focus on the most meaningless detail possible. A missing blank space. No idea why our movement gets a bad rep"

I love this time Ginger Hulk can't put on his whimsical above it all wine-o act. He had to tell the troops they are losing the war. 

And as you rightly point out, he brings up transwoman vs. trans woman as a sort of final straw.

At least the Autogynephiliacs got their priorities straight.

[Potato]

Isn't that just Castlevania?

 

Wha?

There's nothing masculine about Castlevania character designs post SNES.

[Rendle]

Do y'all know how fucking hard it is to buy shoes when you're flat-footed and wear 10.5 4E

I want to shoot myself

How do I send you money? I never turn down helping a disabled person in need (except pedophiles).

[DavidCroquet]

I support folks' rights to have this and also call for an "oops all femboys" sword and sorcery game.

There's definitely a distinction between sexy and gross.

Oh, there's a distinction alright.

[Polident]

Isn't that just Castlevania?

 

Wha?

There's nothing masculine about Castlevania character designs post SNES.

I liked when somebody figures out how they’re all just Bjorn Andresen from the 1970s.

Thankfully the Wii game brought back some dignity to the vampire hunters



That’s what real men look like.

edit: actually, this works for top of the page sexy vampire hunters. But feel free to post the chick from Underworld.

[DavidCroquet]

I'm curious about this new member. Seems very familiar with the bire vibe and lore, but it's only new. 

Long time lurker or Resetera refugee or both?

I've been on resetera for a while and passively watched their insanity unfold for before learning about the bire from another era user. I'm glad this forum exists to keep the receipts of every incident that goes down on that forum. My presumption is a lot of people here are fellow resetera refugees.
 

Where was this bire underground railroad? I'm assuming discord or something?

Pretty sure Messofanego (or some other hall monitor type on Era) is inadvertently deserving of credit for this. 

Every so often he will be like "our ideological enemies at www.kiwifarms.jizz*, www.thebire.net--spinoff of www.thebore.com--are...making fun of us and enjoying it. How horrible!"

I know that's how I ended up on thebire personally.

*kiwifarms changes the domain like 30 times a year, I have no idea what the current one is.

[BIONIC]

Thanks for this thread!

I've been stewing on this for a while, and haven't really dared write to the mod team about it or make a thread because honestly, I'm kind of afraid of catching a ban... And I don't really know what that says about me, or the team, or the state of the internet in general.

I'm going to preface this by stating that, as per the thread rules, I am not trying to relitigate a sanction.

I strongly feel like some of the rules are not clear enough, and that - while I fully appreciate the fact that the team has so, so much work - some of the answers to moderation questions are seriously lacking.

Here's the situation: I posted in the thread about the genocide in Gaza a while back, using a source that was not at the time included in the list of questionable or banned sources. I caught a warning and temporary threadban for citing a questionable source, and when I asked the mods for clarification - let me be clear, I asked for clarification, not a reversal - I received an automated response telling me that my warning would not be reversed and giving no clarification whatsoever, nor acknowledgement that I was sanctioned for citing a source that wasn't included in the questionable sources list.

I really feel like the mod team should do better in this respect, because enforcing unwritten rules and not acknowledging follow-up questions has a real chilling effect on participation.

Thanks for reading.

That "unwritten rule" has literally been written in a big red box on every single page of that thread, right above where you post. It's literally impossible to miss...

The "unwritten" part was that the source wasn't included in the questionable sources list :(

The post literally says to use legitimate news organizations as a source due to the massive amount of disinformation surrounding the topic and you posted a YouTube channel that very specifically says it's not affiliated with any actual news sources and is backed by a patreon. It should be common sense.

First of all, I'm legitimately grateful that you took the time to go check the specifics of what I was talking about. Thanks for that.

I'd read several Guardian columns by the guy, but I shouldn't have assumed that his own independent work was considered acceptable. I take responsibility for that lapse in judgement.

I don't disagree with the moderation decision, and that wasn't the point of my post ITT. I have an issue with the response I got when I asked for clarification: it read like an automated response to an appeal, which wasn't what my request was about, and did not answer my question.

"Common sense" is not a universal, and while I acknowledge that I made a mistake, I have only fully understood the specifics of it now that you've explained it to me. I swear I'm not trying to be obtuse, but if the original DM response to my question had been your explanation or something like it, that would've been absolutely fine.

I guess my point is that I'd like for requests for clarification following an infraction not be automatically treated as an appeal, but instead as, well, requests for clarification. And while I fully appreciate the likely volume of similar requests and/or appeals the team has to deal with (some if not many of which I imagine are disingenuous), I will say it would have been perfectly acceptable if an actual answer to my question had taken several weeks or as much time as needed, rather than a quick response that did not answer my question.

Thanks for reading.

[HaughtyFrank]

Hopefully they redesign the main character and the clothing options

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-sequel-confirmed-by-the-games-developer-shift-up.1194045/post-140221773

Always love takes like these. Yes, lets change the one thing that made their game stand out among all the other action games. Brilliant strategy. The company might go out of business but at least the Burka thread would be happy.

[Boredfrom]

Isn't that just Castlevania?

 

Wha?

There's nothing masculine about Castlevania character designs post SNES.

My sweet summer child, you think that is a “femboy”.  

Real talk, is probably for the best.

[Alpacx]

If white America actually cared about the contributions of women and minorities, they would have pushed back immediately when Trump started attacking DEI policies.

Third option: they judge those contributions by their merits rather than the demographics of those presenting them?

Feel like there was a really famous guy who said something like this once. Probably some fucking centrist lib who wanted people to vote or some other useless shit like that. 

I think anybody who's sat through a microaggression or DEI training at work is more annoyed at that nonsense than the affirmative action hiring stuff.

Edit: or land acknowledgements before meetings.

[BananaBlast]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-sequel-confirmed-by-the-games-developer-shift-up.1194045/

Stellar Blade 2 confirmed by the devs

Can't wait for the meltdown!

[DocWager]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-sequel-confirmed-by-the-games-developer-shift-up.1194045/

Stellar Blade 2 confirmed by the devs

Can't wait for the meltdown!

Not really… The trans posters are publicly reverting back to their male nature. so this time around I don’t expect much complaining.

[Shecky Fragbaum]

 

Wha?

There's nothing masculine about Castlevania character designs post SNES.

I liked when somebody figures out how they’re all just Bjorn Andresen from the 1970s.

Thankfully the Wii game brought back some dignity to the vampire hunters



That’s what real men look like.

edit: actually, this works for top of the page sexy vampire hunters. But feel free to post the chick from Underworld.

Am I meant to seduce the Lord of Darkness? Simon rocking the Ivy cosplay seems like a Burqua Brigade original design. Just a lil fuckboi out galavantin' and such.

Speaking of the 'brigade... all-star contributor ClickyCal' chose violence in a Excelcioref topic. 

Someone is about to be brutally reminded of the pecking order.