Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Rendle]

You've never seen Lilo and Stich? What are you, some kind of well-adjusted adult?

[killamajig]

Yeah, I'm too old for that movie, and since I don't have kids, it took me a hot minute to even figure out what they were arguing about, let alone decide which side had the worse take.

Another one of these"" moments that I seem to have more often.

[Snoopy]

Factually Incorrect Jeff’s Disney pillows are going to take a pounding tonight

[killamajig]

The warden argues with the inmates. Starts here....

Thank you for engaging with such a riveting argument.

Dude, you're literally calling the neighbor telling Nani that she should go get a degree because she has the ability to change the world "shitting on the working class." How is anyone supposed to respond to that? It's literally crapping on the idea of getting educated.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/spoilers-lilo-stitch-remake-has-a-new-ending-and-fans-are-very-divided.1197924/page-12#post-140444478
still going

I decided to take a break from this thread for a day because I just found this post so baffling I had no idea where to start.

Seriously, what are you even talking about here? Saying things with no evidence means what? What do you imagine counts as evidence? The evidence is what Disney does with the other remakes and how they have firm limitations on what can and cannot be added to said movies. There's an entire cottage industry around analyzing those movies already if you want examples but the Lindsay Ellis one for Beauty and the Beast and the Big Joel one for Aladdin are good places to start. The changes in those movies all fit a similar framing of what it would mean to empower a female character by altering or tweaking her original goals to not make them "Just" a love interest or "Just" a caretaker such as in this movie. I would argue Aladdin ends up doing a better job with this because having Jasmine wish to rule Agrabah doesn't detract nor impact the original core story whereas here it very much so does. So much so in fact that they had to create an entirely new major supporting character in Tutu to facilitate this change.

Does this not count in your eyes or is evidence to you only explicit quotes from the staff creating the movie? If that is the case then that would mean you entirely reject the field of film study and analysis.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding what film analysis actually looks like. Yes, you need actual evidence and analysis to back up your claim. That evidence can be textual or from the creators themselves. You don't just pull claims out of thin air and then never actually back then up with anything, which is what you did when you said the film was "shitting on the working class" by having Nani go to college and did not actually back it up with anything of substance.

Claims require evidence and analysis to back them up, you don't just throw out hottakes and call that film analysis. That's not how it works. You have to actually argue your point.

How did the forum get this way?

[yetanotheraccountholyf]

I'll see if the image hosting is possible. You need to understand though, we're way bigger than all but two other xenforo forums. And for both of those, we definitely use more images as they're literally fanfiction repositories.

We're the biggest forum of our kind and that means stuff that works for smaller forums doesn't necessarily scale up to the point where it works for us and even if it does, it might be too expensive to make possible. I remember Ceri being annoyed at me over how much the vote tool cost. Thing took months to develop. The dude who said shit costs $15, that's for small forums that have a dozen or so active users.

1. Kiwi Farms not only is on Xenforo, they're on an unsupported version because Null gets deplatformed from everything. Yet they host all their own images and videos on their server. There's no way ResetERA.com would need more space than that. How many fucking images does he see in normal threads? It's like one or two. Most threads have zero images at all.
2. There's no really existing add-on for uploading to imgur or something?
3. They paid for the vote tool? Incredible ROI.

edit: lmao, MyBB has a plugin for uploading to imgur: https://community.mybb.com/mods.php?action=view&pid=386

Bdubs seems to think that the more people click on a button the more it would cost to develop or something, I only wonder if Cerium was also that stupid or faked it so staff wouldn’t know that he sleeps on money (he will wake up any day now though)  

[killamajig]

Factually Incorrect Jeff’s Disney pillows are going to take a pounding tonight

Question to all, what body pillow does Jeff fuck when he can't get anyone to touch his pee-pee? Is it a Marvel or Disney character?

I bet it's as crusty as Melodys guitar.

[Averon]

Stuff like that makes me wonder what some members would do with themselves if ERA ever shuts down or collapse. Their entire personality involves dictating the discourse there. Can you imagine Zeo finding a new home that would tolerate his BS for as long as ERA have and not have him catch a perma ban? Will TransERA ever find another captive audience like they have with ERA? Where else can someone like Messeo build his online dossier and make sure you know every wrong-think even the smallest, most obscure person online has done?

[Besticus Maximus]

If there's no one to bullypost on resetera, how do you even know you're a girl

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/slate-the-curious-case-of-the-pygmy-nuthatch-that-one-scene-from-charlies-angels.1198521/

I'm not the biggest fan of Charlie's Angels, and frankly barely remembered this scene. But I found this article absolutely fascinating. The author did so much research for this goof! Thousands of words and investigative research went into uncovering what the bird is, what the sound is, and why the script just flat out lies about the bird. Great reporting.

Autisim thread alert

[Cheststrongwell]

Imagine taking the time to write multiple paragraphs defending/criticizing a movie made for babies and small children. 12 pages since Friday! That's more than the stickied person of gender genocide thread got in a month. Allies you say? Do better.

[Nintex]

No kidding about the manchildren. My Latina single mom went to see this film with her 4 year old this weekend. I don't think she is aware of the "controversy" and no I'm not going to ask 

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2-israeli-embassy-employes-shot-killed-in-washington-dc.1195905/page-2#post-140311881

User Banned (3 Weeks): Inflammatory commentary in a sensitive thread, long history of infractions

Lot of people in this thread mourning the loss of genocide perpetrators, disgusting

Edit: before I get banned for "supporting murder", I think grieving anyone involved in an active genocide is abhorrent and is tacit support of the genocide.

Wow, good thing era mods gave this guy a whole three weeks to mull over what an absolute fucking psychopath he is.

Just imagine if he'd posted something truly heinous, like a studio director having JKR as one of their twitter follows is not a big deal

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gizmodo-googles-veo-3-is-already-deepfaking-all-of-youtubes-most-smooth-brained-content.1198272/

like 'ghost chili challenge'?

[Eric Cartman]

I'll see if the image hosting is possible. You need to understand though, we're way bigger than all but two other xenforo forums. And for both of those, we definitely use more images as they're literally fanfiction repositories.

We're the biggest forum of our kind and that means stuff that works for smaller forums doesn't necessarily scale up to the point where it works for us and even if it does, it might be too expensive to make possible. I remember Ceri being annoyed at me over how much the vote tool cost. Thing took months to develop. The dude who said shit costs $15, that's for small forums that have a dozen or so active users.

YOU CAN'T JUST FLIP A SWITCH!

[Eric Cartman]

This isn't a conspiracy. I wasn't sitting here like, "Time to make a bad faith thread about Lilo & Stitch." That's weird to do and weird to assume someone would do.

[simiansmarts]

Stuff like that makes me wonder what some members would do with themselves if ERA ever shuts down or collapse. Their entire personality involves dictating the discourse there. Can you imagine Zeo finding a new home that would tolerate his BS for as long as ERA have and not have him catch a perma ban? Will TransERA ever find another captive audience like they have with ERA? Where else can someone like Messeo build his online dossier and make sure you know every wrong-think even the smallest, most obscure person online has done?

Hasn't RE already been splintered across different forums: IconEra, Famiboards, XboxEra, NeoGAF ? I presume many of those 'prominent' RE members would immediately try to re-establish themselves on the nearest successor board (preferably on the moderation team to flex their power). No other forum BUT RE would put up with people like Zeo policing threads 24/7 or a trans mafia mod-team doing shakedowns on any user to says they like Harry Potter or Cyberpunk.

[Taco Bell Tower]

But it basically comes down to just one.

You have to be an absolute fucking loser to argue this much over a KID'S CARTOON.

PallasKitten

I'm going to be completely honest, threads like this (and this isn't an issue only on this forum), where the whole premise is to get negative knee jerk reactions, and then witnessing all hell break loose in the comments/posts with people slinging shit at each other (over a kid's movie, no less) is one of the reasons I can't take some online discourse around media/entertainment seriously any more.

It's so fucking exhausting. I get there's always going to be contentious and polarising things in fiction that will cause a stir, but I saw the original title of this thread, it was (and still is, especially with the OP, though slightly less so now) very much worded in a way to be deliberately reactionary. It'd be cool if we just let people come to their own conclusions on how they felt about something after watching/reading/playing/etc. it, y'know? Then maybe make a thread titled something like "how do you feel about the ending of the Lilo & Stitch remake?" instead of creating what feels like needless outrage bait.

Anyway, on topic with the movie: I saw it back on Thursday, first time actually seeing one of these live action Disney remakes, and I thought it was alright. The original was definitely better, there's many changes to this movie I wasn't a fan of, but it was still an enjoyable enough watch. I can't say I really had strong feelings for the ending one way or another, wasn't aware there was even controversy over it until this thread. I thought if there'd be any controversy, it'd be how they handled the aliens in general, especially Jumba just being a boring ass villain now, and Gantu being absent.

I did appreciate some of the changes to Nani though, it definitely wasn't perfect and some things were fumbled, but she felt a bit more fleshed out, but mind you it's been over a decade since I last saw the original movie, so I may be misremembering how she was in the original.

[Rendle]

Yeah, I'm too old for that movie, and since I don't have kids, it took me a hot minute to even figure out what they were arguing about, let alone decide which side had the worse take.

Another one of these"" moments that I seem to have more often.

I would never say to someone "omg you need to see Lilo and Stich" but it's not a bad film, from back when Disney still had ideas in the tank.

[almostheathen]

sorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrrysorrrrysorry

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/spoilers-lilo-stitch-remake-has-a-new-ending-and-fans-are-very-divided.1197924/page-12#post-140449071

To be fair, OP didn't see the the movie when this thread was started. OP was really mischaracterizing the movie when this thread was opened, since it mentioned a leak with the most incendiary words to describe the ending.

ZeoVagina

It was not a "leak." The movie had been out for 24 hours when this thread was made. The ending was already being criticized by other people in a different thread on Era.

You may not like the decisions the film made, but it would not be correct to only mention "Nani gives Lilo to the state, so she can continue her College studies". That phrase erases all nuances in an attempt to make people angry.

ZeoVagina

No, that's not what happened. Nothing was mischaracterized and I've actually explained why, but I'll repeat it yet again: Nani does in fact decide to put Lilo into foster care, which the movie shows multiple times. When she makes this decision, there is no mention of the the neighbor. Nani is putting her trust in the state to find a home for Lilo. She is not happy about it but is what she does, which is completely different than the original movie.

The only reason she isn't taken away by the social worker is because she is missing when they open her bedroom door to get her. And in the end, it is not Nani's actions that change anything. It is only the social worker, with that last minute save, who suggests having the foster parent be their neighbor.

I stand by "Nani gives up Lilo to the state" because it is the decision she makes and it is doubled down on in two separate scenes. The last-minute save by the social worker doesn't erase that.

He still hasn't watched the movie 

[Eric Cartman]

Did anyone reverse uno zerovagine with a "Oh, so you think it would be better if Disney stigmatised kids growing up in foster care as having fake families that don't love them as much as biological connections, huh? Cool progressive bioessentialism take, bro"

[Eric Cartman]

Because if you really want to be a massive cunt, you can morally one-up pretty much any fucking take possible

[Potato]

Stuff like that makes me wonder what some members would do with themselves if ERA ever shuts down or collapse. Their entire personality involves dictating the discourse there. Can you imagine Zeo finding a new home that would tolerate his BS for as long as ERA have and not have him catch a perma ban? Will TransERA ever find another captive audience like they have with ERA? Where else can someone like Messeo build his online dossier and make sure you know every wrong-think even the smallest, most obscure person online has done?

Hasn't RE already been splintered across different forums: IconEra, Famiboards, XboxEra, NeoGAF ? I presume many of those 'prominent' RE members would immediately try to re-establish themselves on the nearest successor board (preferably on the moderation team to flex their power). No other forum BUT RE would put up with people like Zeo policing threads 24/7 or a trans mafia mod-team doing shakedowns on any user to says they like Harry Potter or Cyberpunk.

All of those splinter forums have acknowledged the terrible moderation at Resetera and have taken steps to prevent the same level of retardation from proliferating at those new places.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-22-2025-years-later-the-us-ftc-has-finally-dropped-its-fight-against-microsoft%E2%80%99s-activision-blizzard-deal.1197060/page-2#post-140357688

User banned (2 weeks): Inflammatory commentary

That whole fucking thread was such an utter display of blind zealous stupidity.

Weirdly enough, a lot of people who were pretty pro acquisition have remained quite silent about the genocide. Probably a coincidence though.

[D3RANG3D]

The point of the original was family (ohana), but let's be real these modern degenerates hate anything normal!

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wkd-box-office-%E2%80%A2-05-23-25-25-%E2%80%A2-ohana-means-no-money-gets-left-behind-l-s-180m-4-day.1198461/page-3#post-140450019

Absolutely massive weekend. Hopefully, Disney takes the right lessons from Lilo rather than greenlighting a $350m budget Frozen remake.

More impressive holds for Sinners and Thunderbolts too, especially given the competition.

So Thunderbolts ended up being a flop, as everyone predicted. Not a massive flop, but a mid flop, which is still a flop.

Nope.

Words have meanings and while you could potentially say Thunderbolts came in under expectations, a movie that doubles its budget at the box office is rarely ever considered a flop. The only MCU movie that has unequivocally flopped is The Marvels, with an argument to be made about The Incredible Hulk. Even Quantumania made a slight profit.

Thunderbolts is not a bomb or a flop. And to be honest, it's difficult to know what Disney's expectations were for a difficult-to-market film with mostly D-list characters. But we do know that they're confident enough to be in talks with the director for something as huge as X-Men.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-military-shifts-messaging-in-africa-telling-allies-to-prepare-to-stand-on-own.1198530/
Of course they are complaining the U.S. is getting out of Africa

You'll never win with these dopes.

And for many instead of standing on their own, they'll just go to China/Russia for support.

The American administration is so clearly compromised by them, giving up all their soft power across the globe

Russia and China looking at Africa like a steak on a plate, they can't wait for the US to leave.

"Protect the homeland".

What an idiot.

What allies?

Nep shows up to drop her hot take

Right? The entire African continent has no meaningful allyship with the United States.

[Boredfrom]

Yeah, I'm too old for that movie, and since I don't have kids, it took me a hot minute to even figure out what they were arguing about, let alone decide which side had the worse take.

Another one of these"" moments that I seem to have more often.

I would never say to someone "omg you need to see Lilo and Stich" but it's not a bad film, from back when Disney still had ideas in the tank.

Is not a bad film, but the promotional stuff make it look like Disney’ Shrek.

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-military-shifts-messaging-in-africa-telling-allies-to-prepare-to-stand-on-own.1198530/
Of course they are complaining the U.S. is getting out of Africa

You'll never win with these dopes.

Nep shows up to drop her hot take

Right? The entire African continent has no meaningful allyship with the United States.

 
'American hegemonic soft-power is bad because...le colonialism!!' 

 
 
I fucking hate this retarded populism that twists itself into pretzels to justify why providing aid to famished and war-torn regions of Africa is bad actually. Never forget how every thread raising awareness for areas like Sudan are met with crickets on RE. Leftists like Nep DO NOT care so long as they get to do moral posturing for their online community.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/paramilitary-fighters-massacre-hundreds-of-civilians-in-southern-sudan.1180974/

[Boredfrom]

Let me guess, Trump got triggered because he didn’t get the support he wanted when bitching about South Africa.