Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Bootsthecat]

It's funny when British posters say it. Kinda like how fat 4all says takeaway.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-wrap-%E2%80%98the-last-of-us%E2%80%99-season-2-finale-viewership-down-55-from-season-1-expect-spoilers.1199049/



Be on the lookout for casual misogyny

[Venice]

From the 'Lilo and Stitch' thread. 

One of the Bore's quieter, more-of-a-lurker, yet very bold, members (because he's unafraid to reuse the same username) not-so-subtly trolls ZeoVGM:

Almostheathen

https://www.resetera.com/threads/spoilers-lilo-stitch-remake-has-a-new-ending-and-fans-are-very-divided.1197924/page-16#post-140495310

Factually incorrect

https://thebire.com/forum/member.php?action=profile&uid=82



Only one reply so far, from someone too dumb to notice the trolling:

Factually incorrect

I mean shouldn't you actually say what you think is factually incorrect?

Nice one, Almostheathen. Let's see how long you last until you get banned 

[killamajig]

Yes, advocating that the high school valedictorian acting as a single mom to her younger sister think about her future and go to college instead of working as a waitress is totally "hating the working class."

He's still debating with the inmates.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

It’s like he enjoys being wrong. 

He highlighted the text not bolded.

Oh no... all this time they've been feeding his kink.

[Snoopy]

He's definitely going on Dub's shit list

I've spent two days giving you a pretty basic course in film theory only to be responded to with "Source" for two days. I've spent enough time and energy responding to you in good faith and all you provide in return is that you disagree, even when we are talking about word for word interpretations of lines in the movie.

I will let the work I've put into the discussion stand for itself. If you're not satisfied with my answer by now I'm not really interested in trying any further and will let anyone else reading our discussion make up their own minds.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

Stuff like that makes me wonder what some members would do with themselves if ERA ever shuts down or collapse. Their entire personality involves dictating the discourse there. Can you imagine Zeo finding a new home that would tolerate his BS for as long as ERA have and not have him catch a perma ban? Will TransERA ever find another captive audience like they have with ERA? Where else can someone like Messeo build his online dossier and make sure you know every wrong-think even the smallest, most obscure person online has done?

You're literally on a forum obsessed with Era, which political opinons tend to be "the opposite of anything era things". Several members here are people who got banned on era and are so butthurt they spent years obsessing over it.

Look at this shit:

same reason why people still post on a forum thats purged most if its staunchest anti-zionists and lefties

Going backwards a page from that post first:

The amount of people ITT just casually stating they still use the site is absurd.

It's kinda ironic considering how this forum originated.
I left twitter when my feeds became full of Elon posts and other Nazi shit. I'd rather be in a platform where keeping the Nazis out doesn't require me to spend hours curating my feed.

It is, very.
Unless a person has some need to use the site for something outside of basic entertainment/news that I can't think of, anyone still using it is absolutely not an ally and/or is actively supportive of the site's owner.

Everyone likes to post the story about how you have to kick Nazis out of the bar before they turn it into a Nazi bar, but it turns out there's another possible ending to that story aside from "bar is all Nazis or no Nazis." Turns out, even once it becomes a Nazi bar, a lot of the regulars will keep going because it's easier than finding a new place. So now it's a Nazi bar with a lot of folks who insist they're not with them. Some of those people are probably less resilient towards being immersed in Nazi shit than they think they are, which is how Nazis recruit.

from my experience they are following terrible bigots and bragging about it

It's the same as people in the Xbox BDS threads saying stuff like "well, if I boycotted Xbox then I wouldn't get to have Game Pass, and we all know that can't happen"
Like, what are you even talking about??

So because you're closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears it's okay.
EDIT: I'm probably going to take a ban if I stay in this thread, so I'm putting it on ignore. I honestly can't believe how many of you are okay with supporting this site.

And in this case the analogy only works if the bar was bought by a nazi, who then invited all of the nazis who were previously banned back to the bar, for the sole purpose of using the bar to indoctrinate everyone who walks through the doors in nazi propaganda.

It's the perfect microcosm for how society has gotten to where it is. 10-20 years ago enshittification used to kill behemoths of sites because it was so much easier for the average user to say "well fuck you, then". Now the internet has been compacted into a few social fiefdoms where nobody feels empowered to do anything even when they know things have gotten bad.

It's abhorrent

The owner of the platform is LITERALLY a Nazi, how hard is this to understand?

The rest of your post makes complete sense but the first part is a little odd. It's not like the definition of a Nazi changes from country to country.

... And Elon Musk is supporting Nazi political parties all and the world, not just in the USA
If you're still on X then every interaction you have is bankrolling a global Nazi movement

And thank God for Elon Musk for providing that one and only channel. The world might not revolve around the US but apparently your representation in your country's government revolves around a nazi.

It shouldn't be super surprising. We had no shortage of people dismissing the threat of Trump or talking about sending Democrats a message by not voting against him. As much as people say certain things matter to them most people are pretty comfortable consuming stuff from their phones and acting like it's awful those things that are happening to people. But they were never truly worried about orange Hitler because they figured their existence wouldn't change much. Or at least not worried an enough to work towards defeating him and for some the 5 minutes of filling out something was too much.
So to quit X being insurmountable for so many because "but you don't understand it's the best at…" makes sense.

JFC, humanity is doomed because people are too selfish to overcome their social media addictions and continue to justify them in any way possible 🤦🤦🤦 It's just beyond fucking belief! And furthermore people are actually proudly proclaiming their special reasons that they need to keep supporting fascists and Nazis because their particular addiction is just far too important and special. I'm out, you guys can all justify away to your hearts content but you're all part of the problem.

I don't get it either, era itself felt like it dragged its feet before they finally got to it too.
I don't really get the news excuse too. Do y'all really need every bit of news asap? Like if your government posted something on Twitter it'll get reported to your country/region/local news. Like we all seemed to functioned pretty well before the creation of Twitter.

Most of the ERA's posts came from Twitter. I've noticed fewer news and updates on here since the ban.

People not leaving their table at the Nazi bar 'cause of some sports idols and artists on a whole other table in the same Nazi bar. They'd probably rarely if ever had a conversation or would recognize or even know each other outside of the bar. They just really enjoy being in the same bar. The bar owner is throwing salutes to his hollering fans right at the next table but man, this bar is great.

Advertisers still paying money to Twitter are morally bankrupt. That everyone with a shred of decency hasn't taken the minimally inconveniencing step of moving to a nearly 1:1 alternative is an indictment on society.

So, legit question:
Why is peoples thought in this case "well I guess then I should stay as well", and not "well if they like to hang with Nazis, they probably weren't worth following in the first place"?

But I didn't say that, I said "fine hanging with Nazis. On a Nazi-led Platform. Full of Nazis."

I guess people don't care about frequenting nazi bar. For multiple reasons, they chose to stay there. Wild but expected given human nature.

All the folks saying they don't see the rivers of racist sewage that flow through the place... Its owned and run by a literal nazi. A nazi who bought the platform so he could use it to disseminate nazi propaganda, help get Trump elected, and influence elections to get other fascists elected in Europe. The fact you're just there to talk about baseball is irrelevant. You're still supporting a nazi.

I really hope Europe will take action against Elon Musk and X (an outright ban shouldn't be possible, but there are other ways to penalize this platform), though I'm not holding my breath.

Apparently Elon Musk is just an American problem.
"Elon Musk endorses AFD"
Get off the fucking nazi website.

The websites you visit, the apps you use, the businesses you spend your money at. These are all political choices. Choices that have real world consequences. Nearly all of the tech companies that blew up over the last 30 years have grown so large they have far too much influence over our lives and far too much power in the world. And with Trump, they just showed everyone that they are willing to elevate fascists to positions of power when it suits them. Musk has shown the world that he's a white supremacist nazi piece of shit over and over and over again. And this is the richest man in the world. It's time everyone start thinking a lot harder about their role in all of this. If you're not a nazi fascist piece of shit then stop patronising nazi fascist piece of shit organisations.

Nazis are an international problem, not an excuse.

Neither am I.
It is not an excuse.
You were never going to get an honest answer to your question.

i wonder the reaction if you could go back in time and tell the people that were risking their lives fighting the Nazis, that in the future one of the biggest networks where people interact is owned by a neo-nazi doing salutes in public, and interfering with elections/spreading right wing bullshit and discourse, and instead of pushing back, people are just still using the platform, and can't be bothered to change to any other website/community because reasons.
The nazi bar is a perfect allegory, really. We know many of the tech companies do bullshit in the shadows so at least people can pretend they do not know, but with X, Elon is basically filling people's eyes with shit blatantly, 24/7.

But the owner is literally a nazi and everyone using the site is furthering his goals, it doesn't matter how curated your feed is, it doesn't matter if you don't see it, that doesn't make it go away.

I'm sorry, but the owner literally threw a nazi salute and is actively propagating overt neo-nzai agendas. Anyone continuing to use his platform is helping his goals, it doesn't matter if that's not your intent and it doesn't matter if you personally deleting your account makes a 000000000.1% impact on Musk's power.
It's about drawing a line in the sand at supporting a man who threw a fucking HH salute, it shouldn't matter how little that support amounts to. That suppot should be 0.0%.
Yes, living in a capitalist society means we're all contributing to systemic issues with our consumption habits. To be perfect here is unavoidable, many people need to use technologies and services for their livlihoods, etc...
But, if you're only using Twitter for entertainment and news because of its convenience, this can be replaced with something else far more easily than other things like operating systems on your PC, or phones etc... it doesn't cost you any money to delete your account, all it costs is a bit of inconvenience when sourcing your entertainment and news in future.
Don't even try to whatabsoutism this, there's no excuse.... especially when most people are literally just using the site for entertainment and convenience.

The guy was standing in the Whitehouse last week with the president of the United fucking States, forcing the president of South Africa to watch white supremacist brain rot conspiracy theories about white genocide as if they were generally accepted facts. We're way beyond some abstract notions, or future what ifs. Nazis are in the fucking whitehouse. What do you think happens next? Just get off the fucking nazi propaganda platform.

There are plenty of real leftists on Bluesky, but I guess the website crawling with Nazis is more preferable than the one with liberals for some reason. Moreover, there is just something about Twitter that attracts the worst kind of leftists: the annoying ones who are enamored with lame dunks, petty squabbles, and clout chasing.
There are far better intellectual conversations to be had on TikTok, Reddit, and Bluesky.

One thing that's true for the internet and real life imo, is people would genuinely rather hang out at a Nazi bar than like outside a library.
Sure there are Nazis at the bar, and they constantly talk about how certain people are subhuman, but ya know, the squares are at the library.
Also, this is a bit of a sidenote, but it's wild to me how much we make fun of wine moms when they're like the only group who seem to understand that it's always important to vote against Republicans.

folks are really looking for any excuse to justify their addiction to the nazi site, huh
'but bsky is lame' is such a fucking self-report

This thread is such a depressing read. People will really come up with any non-work (I'm giving the benefit of doubt to those whose livelihood depends on exposure/managing there) related reason to sustain their social media addiction on a blatantly Nazi owned service.

NGL at this point "but work" isn't an excuse anymore., especially if we're talking about personal accounts. I'm really curious about these highly sought after accounts that apparently only exist on Twitter to follow, that seem to be much more important to stare at then leaving the Nazi site. Weirdly enough no one named any. I figure it's wrestling, very unsurprisingly.

Yeah, end of discussion really.

The ship has sunk. It's owned by a literal fascist who uses it as platform to spew and promote repugnant ideas and users at the expense decency.
That's not how ownership works, Elon Musk owns Twitter.
That literally doesn't mean a thing.
That many find this the only place to find your "community" is just gross. If your "community" only exists on this website, maybe make the smallest of effort and look elsewhere rather than just accept it? Just find it complete goblin behavior that people are willing to admit on this website that they "care" about the awfulness of the website, but it apparently it hasn't crossed the threshold yet for them?

Why? I absolutely will, especially if some of those guys want to lesson me about other social topics in the future while gleefully fence sitting on Twitter.
The Nazi bar table comparison is completely legit.

Yeah it's getting gross tbh. There comes a point where you have to start asking the question, if you're okay with being in the Nazi bar, what does that make you?

This dude spent hours reading a thread, quoting every post and reposting it to get a "gotcha" on era on an anti-era circlejerk.

Hey dude, if you actually read through any of those long ass Benji posts, that's on you.

[Kyon1988]

That nazi table argument has to be one of the most annoying ones ever

[DavidCroquet]

if one nazi goes to the superbowl and the stadium doesn’t clear, you have between 70 and 80,000 nazis on your hands.
 
If a nazi rents a hotel in tokyo for a week, we’re talking 14 million nazis.

This is serious stuff you guys!

[Potato]

That nazi table argument has to be one of the most annoying ones ever

Oh really?

[Alpacx]

if one nazi goes to the superbowl and the stadium doesn’t clear, you have between 70 and 80,000 nazis on your hands.
 
If a nazi rents a hotel in tokyo for a week, we’re talking 14 million nazis.

This is serious stuff you guys!

If a nation signs an alliance with the Nazis they're also Nazis. Forever.

#BoycottJapaneseGamesAndConsoles

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atlantic-hurricane-season-2025-ot-playing-with-fire.1199076/#post-140494728

I'm sure it was cute at one point but should we be giving human names to things that kill random people?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-wrap-%E2%80%98the-last-of-us%E2%80%99-season-2-finale-viewership-down-55-from-season-1-expect-spoilers.1199049/page-6#post-140496570

Where is the evidence everyone hates this season? This is like how people would say how almost everyone hates TLOU P2.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-wrap-%E2%80%98the-last-of-us%E2%80%99-season-2-finale-viewership-down-55-from-season-1-expect-spoilers.1199049/

HBO's "The Last of Us" Season 2 finale aired to half the audience that tuned into the Season 1 finale of the video game adaptation, as Sunday's season closer saw 3.7 million cross-platform viewers. That's down 55% from the Season 1 finale, which scored 8.2 million cross-platform viewers, then an impressive feat given that it aired opposite the Oscars.

[killamajig]

Bcucked lore drop


https://www.resetera.com/threads/students-are-being-suspended-and-some-are-being-criminally-charged-over-recent-tiktok-challenge-gone-viral-the-chromebook-challenge.1198821/page-3#post-140495652

Man, when I was in HS me and my buddy ran a bodega out of our lockers. Whatever happened to that shit?

[Orange Juice Box]

That nazi table argument has to be one of the most annoying ones ever

Oh really?

A hit dog hollers was a classic. So was, "strange that you are mad at Y but not at X.".  What else?

Do Better
Shut up and listen
Raise Better Kids
This is the fault of capitalism
We have The Internet/Wikipedia, look it up
It's not my responsibility to educate you
don't @ me
👏I👏AM👏TALKING👏LOOK👏AT👏ME👏
Listen to _______'s
This is why you need to vote _______!
Don't tell me to vote when ________!
Do you even have any empathy?

It's funny how they repeat this shit for years and then everyone decides to stop saying it.
But the creme de la creme was Enzom's, "Why don't you just call me a n****** since you want to so much,"   

A bit of Ezom I have bookmarked for our newer members. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rock-ricky-gervais-and-louis-ck-casually-using-the-n-word-seinfield-abstains-clip-from-2011.88923/page-3#post-16219576

Don't be so sure that those are all actually black people.

They are either bots or white supremacist pretending to be black.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rock-ricky-gervais-and-louis-ck-casually-using-the-n-word-seinfield-abstains-clip-from-2011.88923/page-3#post-16219576

Chris Rock can do and say whatever the fuck he wants when it comes to that word.

How nice of you to give him permission. Some black folks aren't happy about what he is doing here so we can criticize him as much as we want.

I guess I learned it is okay for Mexicans to say the n word.

Non-black PoCs don't have a pass but some of them sure think they do.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rock-ricky-gervais-and-louis-ck-casually-using-the-n-word-seinfield-abstains-clip-from-2011.88923/page-4#post-16220624

If you are not black, it doesn't really matter what you think Chris Rock can or can't do when it comes to "beautiful Black body". but by all means continue.

As I am black and you seem not to be, what you of Rock's opinion on beautiful Black body is absolute less relevant than mine. You are completely divorced from the negativity of it's use so you marching in here giving Rock permission on what he can do with the word is irrelevant.

Cntrl+F for the rest of the thread but it ends with eznzom accuses Benita of dismmising black peoples concerns.

This is a pretty pointless exchange at this point. You'll never admit that you were trying to dismiss black people and I'll never believe that you weren't.

This is a pretty pointless exchange at this point. You'll never admit that you were trying to dismiss black people and I'll never believe that you weren't.

And he ends with this

 I think you attempted to do something, you claim you didn’t and I’m never going to change my mind about it.

 And then they permed Benita a week later or something.  There is a dozen other posts in there I didn't quote.  And guess who of course has to chime in after the dust has settled. 

Pretty uncalled for

I think that guy has posted less than a dozen times since Jan.  I guess he finally got the message.  

[benji]

Hammerstein is also pretty stupid:

But to answer your question, I mean the problem we're having these days is that an awful lot of people seem to be ok with nazis. Yeah. Used to be nobody fucked with nazis. No matter where you were on the political spectrum, or how much you understood about european colonialism - you didn't fuck with nazis. Now, everyone is all, "I just use the nazi guy to keep up with the sports." And I'm telling you millions of people are going to die.

Is more like: "I bought a car from the Nazi company" or "we went to the moon with help of a Nazi".

Communists are categorically responsible for more human death and misery than Nazis, so why do we not treat them with the same revulsion?

Edit: I honestly wonder if it's because most of the death and misery happened to non-white people and the Nazis fucked up western Europe?

I think it's because they don't know anything about history, the Nazis are ultimate bad guys in their favorite media (and general culture), and their sources of information treat Communists as good guys because they're anti-American. (Even though the Axis were so anti-American they literally went to war with America.)

There really isn't an actual historical reason to say the Nazis were somehow worse, the Communists did ethnic cleansing, did genocide, were racist, oppressed LGBTQIA2S+, invaded and annexed independent states, had longer lasting totalitarian states, etc. The only real metric you could claim is that the Nazis did an industrialized organized systemic genocide because they were Germans; the Communists killed millions because they didn't give a shit about breaking a few tens of millions of eggs to make an impossible awful omelette for cis people. It's like the difference between Nepenthe talking about white people and Nepenthe casually dismissing the billions of deaths that would come from what she demands everybody to do. The latter is considered "better" because the intentions are ostensibly good even when they're terrible.

[benji]

Wouldn't it be better to ask for free health care and free housing instead of universal basic income?

How would that make it so I don't have to work yet still receive all the luxuries I want?

[Potato]

Hammerstein is also pretty stupid:


Is more like: "I bought a car from the Nazi company" or "we went to the moon with help of a Nazi".

Communists are categorically responsible for more human death and misery than Nazis, so why do we not treat them with the same revulsion?

Edit: I honestly wonder if it's because most of the death and misery happened to non-white people and the Nazis fucked up western Europe?

I think it's because they don't know anything about history, the Nazis are ultimate bad guys in their favorite media (and general culture), and their sources of information treat Communists as good guys because they're anti-American. (Even though the Axis were so anti-American they literally went to war with America.)

There really isn't an actual historical reason to say the Nazis were somehow worse, the Communists did ethnic cleansing, did genocide, were racist, oppressed LGBTQIA2S+, invaded and annexed independent states, had longer lasting totalitarian states, etc. The only real metric you could claim is that the Nazis did an industrialized organized systemic genocide because they were Germans; the Communists killed millions because they didn't give a shit about breaking a few tens of millions of eggs to make an impossible awful omelette for cis people. It's like the difference between Nepenthe talking about white people and Nepenthe casually dismissing the billions of deaths that would come from what she demands everybody to do. The latter is considered "better" because the intentions are ostensibly good even when they're terrible.

My real concern is that it's not just the resettis that think that though. 

Just in general there's no real revulsion any more for communists and they've been responsible for massive amounts of human misery since WWII where the Nazis and Nazi-like authoritarians have been rank amateurs in comparison.

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[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/living-paycheck-to-paycheck-sucks.1198746/

Dude, I feel you. I made the worst mistake of my life by financing a relatively new car last year --- I got a 23 Civic. I can handle the Monthly note and insurance. But what no one told me about is the ridiculous fucking registration fee. This month I have to come up with an extra $640 to renew my tags. Yesterday I'm literally googling "how long before Navy Federal Repos a car" because the only way I can get the tag is to skip the car payment until next month, I simply cant afford both.

I'm also living paycheck to paycheck and it's awful. Every month, need to create a budget spreadsheet to determine if I would have enough money or not for food for the whole month.

I too would like to see a universal basic income program implemented so everyone can have some base-level money that's guaranteed coming in.

Doesn't (NOT) KSweeley live with his parents AND get welfare?  

The problem is the inequality of it all. Like, I don't mind people having money. But there are too many that hoard ridiculous amounts of money without every touching it. I've witnessed it firsthand, especially seniors who had it good decades ago and sit on piles of money. They'd also rather keep it for themselves than give or even lend some to their own family, which is the weird part to me. When you know someone is a multimillionnaire yet lives like he's barely scraping by, it's frustrating. Or when they try to school you on economics when they paid their houses for peanuts in the 70s-80s and they have 10-20x their equity.

I think currently as things are, a lot of people are on the brink of a financial disaster. 'The average credit card balance for Americans was more than $6,000 as of 2023, so it's probably more now. This is crazy to me because interest rates alone will destroy you. And that's without taking into account how salaries don't keep up with the cost of living and market disruptions like AI, which are contributing to a death by a thousand cuts scenario for job seekers.

You think it's wrong for people to keep the proceeds of their labor basically.  

Yep. It sucks. i've always had minimum wage(or just above) jobs for most of my working life. It's hard work. Wages are really bad in my part of England too.

Same. I used to be a freelance illustrator and then the work started drying up.
Took on a part-time office job that I hate six years ago, and now it's my only source of income.
Every month I just about scrape by, but this month I had some extra expenses and hit my overdraft limit 11 days before payday. Had to borrow money to buy food.

Over the past five years as my illustration income slowly dwindled to nothing my stress and anxiety levels reached intolerable levels.

We really do need universal basic income to help creatives and others whose livelihood has been destroyed by the economy, AI etc.

I feel you and for everyone else feeling this. I separated from my kids mom last year, and moved into one of the cheaper apartments in the area. I literally have nothing in the fridge, nothing in savings, and rent is going to be a photo finish this month… as it is every month. I think most people THINK I'm middle class, but I'm one day, one paycheck away from losing everything. And that's working 50 hours a week.

So between taking care of 2 kids (who, if I'm keeping it a buck… only reason I'm here on this Earth), the daily dread of getting through it, the world being on fire…. Days don't feel like gifts, they feel like dread. I no longer have hope of "better days ahead", too much of a realist.

Been living that way for a couple of decades. Just when I think I'm getting ahead something happens and out goes the savings.

And even if I get to where I can start sending say $500 a month to my credit card debt it would still take 2 years+ to pay it off and THEN I could start really saving.

Beginning to live away from my parents soon, and I can definitely see how it's tough for people to save. I have a mortgage payment of over $3000 a month. I have no furniture, so I'll have to spend $1000s of dollars on that, as well as several smaller fixes and updates needed on the house.

No lawnmower, need to buy that for $200+, electric, trash, water will also cost a few extra hundred a month on average.

I'm supposed to turn 50 in October and im honestly not sure if that's what I want to do

Im alone, im barely scraping by. I won't be able to fill my brain meds next month, things are getting more and more expensive. What's the point of living if all you do is struggle?

I've lost hope in everything, and with Trump winning, I'll never see anything good happen in the rest of my lifetime

I understand, dude. These past few months have been brutal in Texas. Yes, we have stupid debt... but two teachers that also give plasma... and we're still struggling day by day.

I guess if you ask some nasty people up the ladder, they will say the anxiety and dread is not a bug, it's a feature. Keep the workers worried, and let the economy be the gun to your head.

And society can keep going for a long time like this, but I do wonder what the longterm effects are when people are perpetually running on empty.

I live in the Nordics, not in America. I suspect it's the model society when it comes to labor in the minds of some of you here, but the truth is that we're rapidly moving away from it, towards the American way.

Most months, I just about break even financially. I work 25-30 hours a week

If my OT ever stops I'm going to need a new job. Once I get rid of my current debt I will come out ahead and be able to put more into retirement but it has been a slow process.

Yeah, it sucks. I've somehow managed to scrape by on less than 30 hours of work per week, with no real option for OT. Missing even a single paycheck would be disastrous for me.

These kinds of threads are so fucking funny all the time:
"Buy less candles"
"No, how could Trump do this to me?"

They seriously truly believe that people didn't work in the past. That people had it "good" and just received money for nothing. They're all anti-capitalists but socialism is where you work endlessly for nothing at all, you're not given any choice. Talk about letting the economy be a gun to your head, in socialism that's literally the point, not working for the economy is treason.

Also, whenever they wax lyrical about UBI I just need to point out that it was a capitalist libertarian idea promoted by MILTON FRIEDMAN and he nearly convinced RICHARD NIXON to do it. Most countries already have it in a very convoluted and regressive form, but as noted above I don't think they realize just how low the poverty line is and that UBI wouldn't get them any more than they would currently get from welfare. They probably think it's possible to just give everyone $50,000 a year tax free. Zero conception of math. Zero conception of wealth actually, since you can always tell that forum think rich people have giant vaults or at least bank accounts of money. Take Musk, the US government seizes all his assets, oh great, now it has a bunch of Tesla stock and owns SpaceX, that's not cash to give to anyone else. If it does cash out of those, well that's a one time thing and gets you like 10% of the value. Good luck giving anybody UBI with that when the government spends that in a day on all the stuff these people refuse to cut.

I respect people who would just say I don't want to fucking work at all or very minimally more than these assholes who want to force everyone else to labor for them to live in leisure. Like the actual homeless who just want to hang out on the streets and get drugged out of their mind, way better people than these dudes. Talk about greedy, the rich aren't greedy like these dudes. Even the actors and musicians, we think they work so little because the product they give us is two hours long or thirty minutes of songs. Same for sports people. But the real stars are constantly working, look at how many movies some of these people do, or the number and size and locations of concerts (touring is often fucking hell), the biggest sports stars have no real days off. Sports stars are probably a great example because of how often you hear they're broke, yeah, because they frontloaded all their income into when they were 20-30 years old with nothing after that. Them, music stars, actors, etc. who have long careers into their 60s and more are so the exception. I can't tell you the others but just to use the NBA as an example, there's 600 people on a roster or a coach. Total. In the entire world. At any one time. The number of those who have careers over three years has to be less than half. And some of those guys like LeBron James or Steph Curry are one of the ten or twenty or whatever greatest in all of human history. You think that takes basically no work rather than constant endless work from the time you were in your teens?

I actually will use Hasan as an example too. That's work. He streams all the damn time, he has to constantly be on his act as a person, he has to constantly be connecting with his fans, etc. You can't just throw up a stream and make money like that as Jeff will find out if he ever actually streams like he promised. Remember that guy trying to be a vtuber who had a thread about how he tries so hard and yet he's not making any money and can't do it as a career? YEAH, THAT'S NORMAL. You're expecting to be one of few exceptions in the world, dude!

Then they turn around and are like, I barely tried and yet I'm not succeeding, god the system is terrible, we just need more violence and people laboring for me. Nah, fuck off.

To clip part of a George Bernard Shaw quote: "The reasonable man adapts himself the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself."

[benji]

Anyway, my main point is that none of y'all are providing me mutual aid for a 5060Ti so I can just keep playing stuff like Titanfall 2 or NBA 2K like an idiot. And that's a genocide easily twice the size of the genocide that Microsoft does every single day.

[Averon]

Stuff like that makes me wonder what some members would do with themselves if ERA ever shuts down or collapse. Their entire personality involves dictating the discourse there. Can you imagine Zeo finding a new home that would tolerate his BS for as long as ERA have and not have him catch a perma ban? Will TransERA ever find another captive audience like they have with ERA? Where else can someone like Messeo build his online dossier and make sure you know every wrong-think even the smallest, most obscure person online has done?

You're literally on a forum obsessed with Era, which political opinons tend to be "the opposite of anything era things". Several members here are people who got banned on era and are so butthurt they spent years obsessing over it.

Look at this shit:

same reason why people still post on a forum thats purged most if its staunchest anti-zionists and lefties

Going backwards a page from that post first:

The amount of people ITT just casually stating they still use the site is absurd.

It's kinda ironic considering how this forum originated.
I left twitter when my feeds became full of Elon posts and other Nazi shit. I'd rather be in a platform where keeping the Nazis out doesn't require me to spend hours curating my feed.

It is, very.
Unless a person has some need to use the site for something outside of basic entertainment/news that I can't think of, anyone still using it is absolutely not an ally and/or is actively supportive of the site's owner.

Everyone likes to post the story about how you have to kick Nazis out of the bar before they turn it into a Nazi bar, but it turns out there's another possible ending to that story aside from "bar is all Nazis or no Nazis." Turns out, even once it becomes a Nazi bar, a lot of the regulars will keep going because it's easier than finding a new place. So now it's a Nazi bar with a lot of folks who insist they're not with them. Some of those people are probably less resilient towards being immersed in Nazi shit than they think they are, which is how Nazis recruit.

from my experience they are following terrible bigots and bragging about it

It's the same as people in the Xbox BDS threads saying stuff like "well, if I boycotted Xbox then I wouldn't get to have Game Pass, and we all know that can't happen"
Like, what are you even talking about??

So because you're closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears it's okay.
EDIT: I'm probably going to take a ban if I stay in this thread, so I'm putting it on ignore. I honestly can't believe how many of you are okay with supporting this site.

And in this case the analogy only works if the bar was bought by a nazi, who then invited all of the nazis who were previously banned back to the bar, for the sole purpose of using the bar to indoctrinate everyone who walks through the doors in nazi propaganda.

It's the perfect microcosm for how society has gotten to where it is. 10-20 years ago enshittification used to kill behemoths of sites because it was so much easier for the average user to say "well fuck you, then". Now the internet has been compacted into a few social fiefdoms where nobody feels empowered to do anything even when they know things have gotten bad.

It's abhorrent

The owner of the platform is LITERALLY a Nazi, how hard is this to understand?

The rest of your post makes complete sense but the first part is a little odd. It's not like the definition of a Nazi changes from country to country.

... And Elon Musk is supporting Nazi political parties all and the world, not just in the USA
If you're still on X then every interaction you have is bankrolling a global Nazi movement

And thank God for Elon Musk for providing that one and only channel. The world might not revolve around the US but apparently your representation in your country's government revolves around a nazi.

It shouldn't be super surprising. We had no shortage of people dismissing the threat of Trump or talking about sending Democrats a message by not voting against him. As much as people say certain things matter to them most people are pretty comfortable consuming stuff from their phones and acting like it's awful those things that are happening to people. But they were never truly worried about orange Hitler because they figured their existence wouldn't change much. Or at least not worried an enough to work towards defeating him and for some the 5 minutes of filling out something was too much.
So to quit X being insurmountable for so many because "but you don't understand it's the best at…" makes sense.

JFC, humanity is doomed because people are too selfish to overcome their social media addictions and continue to justify them in any way possible 🤦🤦🤦 It's just beyond fucking belief! And furthermore people are actually proudly proclaiming their special reasons that they need to keep supporting fascists and Nazis because their particular addiction is just far too important and special. I'm out, you guys can all justify away to your hearts content but you're all part of the problem.

I don't get it either, era itself felt like it dragged its feet before they finally got to it too.
I don't really get the news excuse too. Do y'all really need every bit of news asap? Like if your government posted something on Twitter it'll get reported to your country/region/local news. Like we all seemed to functioned pretty well before the creation of Twitter.

Most of the ERA's posts came from Twitter. I've noticed fewer news and updates on here since the ban.

People not leaving their table at the Nazi bar 'cause of some sports idols and artists on a whole other table in the same Nazi bar. They'd probably rarely if ever had a conversation or would recognize or even know each other outside of the bar. They just really enjoy being in the same bar. The bar owner is throwing salutes to his hollering fans right at the next table but man, this bar is great.

Advertisers still paying money to Twitter are morally bankrupt. That everyone with a shred of decency hasn't taken the minimally inconveniencing step of moving to a nearly 1:1 alternative is an indictment on society.

So, legit question:
Why is peoples thought in this case "well I guess then I should stay as well", and not "well if they like to hang with Nazis, they probably weren't worth following in the first place"?

But I didn't say that, I said "fine hanging with Nazis. On a Nazi-led Platform. Full of Nazis."

I guess people don't care about frequenting nazi bar. For multiple reasons, they chose to stay there. Wild but expected given human nature.

All the folks saying they don't see the rivers of racist sewage that flow through the place... Its owned and run by a literal nazi. A nazi who bought the platform so he could use it to disseminate nazi propaganda, help get Trump elected, and influence elections to get other fascists elected in Europe. The fact you're just there to talk about baseball is irrelevant. You're still supporting a nazi.

I really hope Europe will take action against Elon Musk and X (an outright ban shouldn't be possible, but there are other ways to penalize this platform), though I'm not holding my breath.

Apparently Elon Musk is just an American problem.
"Elon Musk endorses AFD"
Get off the fucking nazi website.

The websites you visit, the apps you use, the businesses you spend your money at. These are all political choices. Choices that have real world consequences. Nearly all of the tech companies that blew up over the last 30 years have grown so large they have far too much influence over our lives and far too much power in the world. And with Trump, they just showed everyone that they are willing to elevate fascists to positions of power when it suits them. Musk has shown the world that he's a white supremacist nazi piece of shit over and over and over again. And this is the richest man in the world. It's time everyone start thinking a lot harder about their role in all of this. If you're not a nazi fascist piece of shit then stop patronising nazi fascist piece of shit organisations.

Nazis are an international problem, not an excuse.

Neither am I.
It is not an excuse.
You were never going to get an honest answer to your question.

i wonder the reaction if you could go back in time and tell the people that were risking their lives fighting the Nazis, that in the future one of the biggest networks where people interact is owned by a neo-nazi doing salutes in public, and interfering with elections/spreading right wing bullshit and discourse, and instead of pushing back, people are just still using the platform, and can't be bothered to change to any other website/community because reasons.
The nazi bar is a perfect allegory, really. We know many of the tech companies do bullshit in the shadows so at least people can pretend they do not know, but with X, Elon is basically filling people's eyes with shit blatantly, 24/7.

But the owner is literally a nazi and everyone using the site is furthering his goals, it doesn't matter how curated your feed is, it doesn't matter if you don't see it, that doesn't make it go away.

I'm sorry, but the owner literally threw a nazi salute and is actively propagating overt neo-nzai agendas. Anyone continuing to use his platform is helping his goals, it doesn't matter if that's not your intent and it doesn't matter if you personally deleting your account makes a 000000000.1% impact on Musk's power.
It's about drawing a line in the sand at supporting a man who threw a fucking HH salute, it shouldn't matter how little that support amounts to. That suppot should be 0.0%.
Yes, living in a capitalist society means we're all contributing to systemic issues with our consumption habits. To be perfect here is unavoidable, many people need to use technologies and services for their livlihoods, etc...
But, if you're only using Twitter for entertainment and news because of its convenience, this can be replaced with something else far more easily than other things like operating systems on your PC, or phones etc... it doesn't cost you any money to delete your account, all it costs is a bit of inconvenience when sourcing your entertainment and news in future.
Don't even try to whatabsoutism this, there's no excuse.... especially when most people are literally just using the site for entertainment and convenience.

The guy was standing in the Whitehouse last week with the president of the United fucking States, forcing the president of South Africa to watch white supremacist brain rot conspiracy theories about white genocide as if they were generally accepted facts. We're way beyond some abstract notions, or future what ifs. Nazis are in the fucking whitehouse. What do you think happens next? Just get off the fucking nazi propaganda platform.

There are plenty of real leftists on Bluesky, but I guess the website crawling with Nazis is more preferable than the one with liberals for some reason. Moreover, there is just something about Twitter that attracts the worst kind of leftists: the annoying ones who are enamored with lame dunks, petty squabbles, and clout chasing.
There are far better intellectual conversations to be had on TikTok, Reddit, and Bluesky.

One thing that's true for the internet and real life imo, is people would genuinely rather hang out at a Nazi bar than like outside a library.
Sure there are Nazis at the bar, and they constantly talk about how certain people are subhuman, but ya know, the squares are at the library.
Also, this is a bit of a sidenote, but it's wild to me how much we make fun of wine moms when they're like the only group who seem to understand that it's always important to vote against Republicans.

folks are really looking for any excuse to justify their addiction to the nazi site, huh
'but bsky is lame' is such a fucking self-report

This thread is such a depressing read. People will really come up with any non-work (I'm giving the benefit of doubt to those whose livelihood depends on exposure/managing there) related reason to sustain their social media addiction on a blatantly Nazi owned service.

NGL at this point "but work" isn't an excuse anymore., especially if we're talking about personal accounts. I'm really curious about these highly sought after accounts that apparently only exist on Twitter to follow, that seem to be much more important to stare at then leaving the Nazi site. Weirdly enough no one named any. I figure it's wrestling, very unsurprisingly.

Yeah, end of discussion really.

The ship has sunk. It's owned by a literal fascist who uses it as platform to spew and promote repugnant ideas and users at the expense decency.
That's not how ownership works, Elon Musk owns Twitter.
That literally doesn't mean a thing.
That many find this the only place to find your "community" is just gross. If your "community" only exists on this website, maybe make the smallest of effort and look elsewhere rather than just accept it? Just find it complete goblin behavior that people are willing to admit on this website that they "care" about the awfulness of the website, but it apparently it hasn't crossed the threshold yet for them?

Why? I absolutely will, especially if some of those guys want to lesson me about other social topics in the future while gleefully fence sitting on Twitter.
The Nazi bar table comparison is completely legit.

Yeah it's getting gross tbh. There comes a point where you have to start asking the question, if you're okay with being in the Nazi bar, what does that make you?

This dude spent hours reading a thread, quoting every post and reposting it to get a "gotcha" on era on an anti-era circlejerk.

Nice deflection. This post doesn't really address anything I said. Just ranting about Benji. Given how ERA seems to to have a predilection of supporting Hamas terrorists, wanting the worst for Jews, and seemingly turn a blind eye to people like TwoHearts until it became too serious to ignore, being the opposite of ERA seems to be the safer, more sane bet far more often than not.

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-wrap-%E2%80%98the-last-of-us%E2%80%99-season-2-finale-viewership-down-55-from-season-1-expect-spoilers.1199049/page-6#post-140496570

Where is the evidence everyone hates this season? This is like how people would say how almost everyone hates TLOU P2.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-wrap-%E2%80%98the-last-of-us%E2%80%99-season-2-finale-viewership-down-55-from-season-1-expect-spoilers.1199049/

HBO's "The Last of Us" Season 2 finale aired to half the audience that tuned into the Season 1 finale of the video game adaptation, as Sunday's season closer saw 3.7 million cross-platform viewers. That's down 55% from the Season 1 finale, which scored 8.2 million cross-platform viewers, then an impressive feat given that it aired opposite the Oscars.

it really can't be understated how horrendous this show is. how does the videogame have more tasteful/considered writing, direction, cinematography etc than an HBO show? it's very much on the wavelength of the average SyFy channel series.

it's completely indefinisisble which in turn makes 100% sense why so many on ree are being contrarian and defending it.

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fantasy-novel-accidentally-leaves-ai-prompt-in-published-version-showing-request-to-copy-another-writers-style.1197765/#post-140382867

This just gives me the disturbing realisation that my posts on ERA, possibly even hidden personal ones have been taken to feed these AI machines :(

God that sucks.

How bad must the hidden personal ones be?

I imagine that’s what would cause the AI to launch the nukes.

[Polident]

Very anticlimactic for the singularity to be averted because the AI is too lazy to enslave humanity. Sarah Conner could’ve just shown skynet cartoon pornos and the situation would’ve resolved itself.

[Besticus Maximus]

thread for spotting next gen 4k chris chans

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-do-you-think-of-amy-from-sonic-spoilers.1198905/

[Snoopy]

I'm supposed to turn 50 in October and im honestly not sure if that's what I want to do

Im alone, im barely scraping by. I won't be able to fill my brain meds next month, things are getting more and more expensive. What's the point of living if all you do is struggle?

I've lost hope in everything, and with Trump winning, I'll never see anything good happen in the rest of my lifetime

That's a shame. Dude should probably try and find some kind of financial support advice


From Switch 2 pre-order thread

After a ton of refreshing my order at Target FINALLY went through. At one point it made me type my entire credit card number in and I screamed in frustration, but after 10 minutes of refreshing and clicking the order button it finally confirmed I got it and I can see it pending at my bank

I'm going to go take an extra dose of my anxiety medication now, I'm too old for this

Never mind

[Potato]

People who work part time and spend like sailors in a brothel can't make ends meet?


That's unpossable!!

[Rendle]

Posts like that are why Blueball is wrong. If you can't make fun of a 50 year old for screaming in frustration because they had to enter 16 digits online to buy a children's toy for themselves, while they simulatenously complain they can't afford their "brain medicine", who can you make fun of?

[Straight Edge]

If Malds posts he acquired a Switch 2 after launch, I will scream.

[killamajig]

Of course, Jeff will accuse me of being obsessive because I spent a minute copying and pasting his posting time, but I'll let his obsessiveness speak for itself.

If anyone needs to touch grass it's Jeff.
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