Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)
jph139, post: 142260360, member: 6764 wrote:I will say: I find the moderation tone of "I'm the adult in the room, you are embarrassing us, please shape up kiddos" to be obnoxious at the best of times, and it's doubly obnoxious when moderation is clearly and transparently in the wrong, like with that thread.

I know this forum is resistant to discussions on tone and temperament but it's honestly a throughline that runs through like 90% of the staff issues here. The rule of thumb being "just don't be assholes" rings extremely hollow when the message being delivered is condescending or aggressive or accusatory.

kmfdmpig, post: 142267338, member: 4043 wrote:I feel like this thread is designed to contain discontenment. It's like a doctor that doesn't have any answers, so they give a placebo and say to return in two weeks hoping that the patient will either magically get better or will just give up.

Addie, post: 142268079, member: 3524 wrote:I mean, that’s exactly it. It’s a containment thread. It always has been. There’s no discussion. There’s discontentment, followed by a Pokemon tournament or dice app, I guess.

Quite frankly, most moderation decisions make complete sense when you realize that the mods seemingly have nothing but contempt for the majority of the user base. That kind of super-cynicism can’t be fun or healthy for anyone involved.

The vibes are off.

Dead

BabyDontHurtMe, post: 142268112, member: 50713 wrote:One moderator hasn't posted since they got embroiled in a big Media Create controversy four years back.

Not that they *need* to post or anything, I just find that detail funny.

Morrigan, post: 142268148, member: 27 wrote:Absolutely, and this has been going on for years. Don't expect this to ever change.

The hypocrisy is the worst part This man is for the birds!

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Lothar, post: 142269501, member: 523 wrote:It's good to be told that some mods have even more contempt for the users than is visible. Clearly that is the case for mods wanting harsher punishment for that.

Nairume, post: 142269669, member: 2974 wrote:Given things that came out during the appearance shaming thread that were never addressed, we already knew that was the case.

BabyDontHurtMe, post: 142270086, member: 50713 wrote:Well people in the community weren't exactly kind to staff either in that scenario

kayos90, post: 142270158, member: 79 wrote:The difference is that the normal users got punishment but the staff didn't.

BabyDontHurtMe, post: 142270281, member: 50713 wrote:I'm just saying community members and the staff hold contempt for each other. It's clear people had it out for that one admin which superseded any actual problems they had. I just don't think that thread was a great example of a one sided battle so to speak

Still not inviting you to their discord, bitch nothot
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to be clear when I said it was right to go after the scalp of an admin, I meant the other admin
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benji dateline='[url=tel:1751563870' wrote: 1751563870[/url]']
Frankly, she should be mocked for her art degree especially since she complains about the debt she took out for it and demands other people labor to pay for it. Because she doesn't even try to work in art.

Bingo.
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Damn, missed the whole Microsoft/Xbox story until now.
Proud to say I already hated smug face spencer when everyone was in love with him.

*insert guy pointing at himself with thumbs*


In other news, had a bigger work training today where they showed us all the AI tools they want us to use and I was actually excited for them 🤣
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(07-03-2025, 02:08 PM)Jansen wrote:
(07-03-2025, 01:00 PM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote:
(07-03-2025, 06:34 AM)Potato wrote: I'm bored of Shreds of our Lives. 

Stop posting that shit you cunts.

I don't know who this is but I agree.

I love how the people whining don't post anything to laugh at themselves 

Typical self-serving cunts while some of us try to contribute something worthwhile in this life  Social Justice Warrior 2

Shut the fuck up and do the work, bitch. I haven't got the time or the energy to trawl Retardera for laughs.

Besides, I pay high prices in the like economy.
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(07-03-2025, 06:02 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: I still don't know how Melody can't get on SNAP or visit a food bank. If they really are not working and must provide for themselves they are considered a single person household no matter if they live with their parents.

because they are a fat liar and want money for toys and games, not food.
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(07-03-2025, 08:16 PM)nachobro wrote:
(07-03-2025, 06:02 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: I still don't know how Melody can't get on SNAP or visit a food bank. If they really are not working and must provide for themselves they are considered a single person household no matter if they live with their parents.

because they are a fat liar and want money for toys and games, not food.

The Switch 2 and Gundam figurines are essential needs you cis bigot!!
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(07-02-2025, 06:26 PM)Snoopy wrote: But why are ree considered a performative, shallow joke?

Quote:I feel bad for owning both the Xbox series s and series x. I need to stop supporting Microsoft. I will not renew gamepass (I have until next year) and I will try to sell the series s. Although few people likes Xbox in Norway.


it is a mystery


https://www.resetera.com/threads/wc-microsoft-is-closing-down-xbox-studio-the-initiative-perfect-dark-canceled.1234206/page-10#post-142221708

These worms cant even keep it straight for a couple of hours let alone days.

So all the “I hope people land on their feet” virtue signalling is pointless. As no they wont land on their feet, the industry is a shithouse and they’ll be joining people who’ve already been out of work in the industry for the last few months. 

And places like Ree cant live without their latest gadget or game. The news could have posted that Nintendo Execs and game designers were personally doing bombing runs in Gaza in planes and drones decorated with Splatoon characters and Ree would have made up a reason why they still needed a Switch 2.

I wish they at least admit that than have crocodile tears over people losing their jobs. then duck out those threads never to be seen again as it sinks off the front page. I notice those threads unless its juicy console war bait involving MS barely make a dent in page numbers.
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I’m going long on Resetera suicide threads. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-have-any-hope-for-americas-future.1235403/
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(07-03-2025, 09:11 PM)TylenolJones wrote: I’m going long on Resetera suicide threads. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-have-any-hope-for-americas-future.1235403/

Never thought about it but Resetera is the perfect group suicide demographic.
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(07-03-2025, 08:09 PM)Potato wrote:
(07-03-2025, 02:08 PM)Jansen wrote:
(07-03-2025, 01:00 PM)Cauliflower Of Love wrote: I don't know who this is but I agree.

I love how the people whining don't post anything to laugh at themselves 

Typical self-serving cunts while some of us try to contribute something worthwhile in this life  Social Justice Warrior 2

Shut the fuck up and do the work, bitch. I haven't got the time or the energy to trawl Retardera for laughs.

Besides, I pay high prices in the like economy.

Benji, I'm about to murder someone in the digital realm again!
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/ucla-study-claims-usaid-cuts-may-lead-to-more-than-14-million-deaths-globally-by-2030.1235373/


Thread getting completely ignored by Global south #1 fans like Nepenthe and Booshka

hmm

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be more upset at the other claim the study makes, that USAID saved 91 million lives between 2001 and 2021. That just goes completely against their worldview that the US is a uniquely destructive force upon the world
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(07-03-2025, 05:01 PM)Propagandhim wrote:
Quote:This, based on my experience, is absolutely spot-on. The utterly instantaneous transition from mockery in pursuing the humanities because it's fruitless to mockery for being successful in humanities because it's easy is a microcosm of everything that's wrong with society's assignment of value based on money and money only.

What the fuck are these people talking about?  I've never seen anyone being mocked for being successful in humanities.  Sure, I've seen people mock liberal arts students or whatever...but mock people who are successful at it?  What does that even look like?  "Lol!  You make a living writing books about the literary themes in Dostoevsky's work?  Wow, fuck you for that!"  Nobody does that.

Quote:  

My wife and I have several local art pieces in our home - canvas prints and some photography, etc.

"Oh, cool artwork... where did you buy it?"
"Thanks! It's from a local artist we always enjoyed during the art fair, so we asked if we could commission a piece with our family room's colors."
"How much was that?"
"A little less than two grand."
"WHAT? It's canvas and acrylic paint - you could have done it yourself for fifty bucks."
"That is literally not the point at all."


I've had this conversation a dozen times. Or, the absolute mouth gape I get when I tell someone I bought another person's photography. "But you have all those nice cameras - why didn't you just take the picture?"

Who cares that you have a dumb friend that doesn't appreciate the things you appreciate.  Who fucking cares.  That extends to everything beyond art.  You can buy a nice car and someone will say, "But you could have bought a Kia and it's the same thing."  
Nepenthe wrote:People think art should be cheap as hell, and it's like "How the fuck am I supposed to eat if I charge you $5 for a 50 hour job?"
It's always been tough to make a living doing art - the "starving artist" trope exists for a reason.  There are good artists that get paid a shitload and have their work appreciated by many and have the ability to pick and choose what commissions they want to do because there's a line out the door waiting on them.  But many do work a ton of hours to produce works that don't sell for that much.  What exactly do you want out of the world?  To force people to buy art at higher prices from people they don't appreciate the work of?  There's nothing you can do about this.  You either try to become one of the lucky few that can dazzle people with amazing art and become a high-demand artist and charge a lot of money for it, or you don't?  Is this like a general complaint against humanity or something?  What does she want solved here?  An economic system where the government pays artists to make art nobody wants?  I don't understand.   

Pomerlaw wrote:I think jealousy plays a role. They hate their jobs/life and secretly wish they would have artistic talent or craft.
Nepenthe wrote:They.... they can have that by just, like.... drawing.
 
Like, it really is that simple.

People can just...like... not be poor by like...studying hard and practicing things like...math.  For the life of me, I don't understand why she doesn't accept that argument?  It's the same exact fucking thing?
Lost Lemurian wrote:"You're so lucky to be able to draw like that."
Nepenthe wrote:Also another sentiment that I hate. Like, thanks for erasing the thousands of hours I spent practicing and wrestling with insecurity and imposter syndrome!

"You're lucky to be able to go to get a good job."  Like thanks for erasing the thousands of hours of work?

Again, same exact shit.  But no, it's different. Nepenthe's entirely worldview and philosophy is "Me, me, me"

Holy fuck dude, I'm starting to think you're more pathetic than Benji. Did you seriously have a giant ass conversation by yourself with her?

What kind of mental illness forces you to browse era and do this?
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(07-03-2025, 05:15 PM)simiansmarts wrote:
(07-03-2025, 05:12 PM)Blueball wrote:
(07-03-2025, 12:16 AM)benji wrote: I honestly think a lot of people on that forum can't just like something, it has to be imparted to some greater cosmic purpose that gives the person meaning. 
They should spend all their online time stalking people instead. Maybe they could make a forum of it!
There is one, it's called kiwifarms
It was sarcasm, you dummy. I was making fun of the fact your internet activity consists of stalking people.

it's obvious Benji is like mentally ill and spends all his day reading era so he can make "gotcha" posts here and dont' even get me started over fucking bluesky obsession  lol Like what kind of life you have to reach to do this instead of posting on reddit about the latest zelda or whatever.
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(07-03-2025, 05:14 PM)benji wrote: I've given you more than enough time here to pretend to display good faith after falsely claiming you wanted to actually debate and discuss topis

I literally never claimed this. Other than an obsessive stalker you also see things now?

I know you are panicking because you are not used to debate people, but come on.
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(07-03-2025, 09:57 PM)Blueball wrote:
(07-03-2025, 05:01 PM)Propagandhim wrote:
Quote:This, based on my experience, is absolutely spot-on. The utterly instantaneous transition from mockery in pursuing the humanities because it's fruitless to mockery for being successful in humanities because it's easy is a microcosm of everything that's wrong with society's assignment of value based on money and money only.

What the fuck are these people talking about?  I've never seen anyone being mocked for being successful in humanities.  Sure, I've seen people mock liberal arts students or whatever...but mock people who are successful at it?  What does that even look like?  "Lol!  You make a living writing books about the literary themes in Dostoevsky's work?  Wow, fuck you for that!"  Nobody does that.

Quote:  

My wife and I have several local art pieces in our home - canvas prints and some photography, etc.

"Oh, cool artwork... where did you buy it?"
"Thanks! It's from a local artist we always enjoyed during the art fair, so we asked if we could commission a piece with our family room's colors."
"How much was that?"
"A little less than two grand."
"WHAT? It's canvas and acrylic paint - you could have done it yourself for fifty bucks."
"That is literally not the point at all."


I've had this conversation a dozen times. Or, the absolute mouth gape I get when I tell someone I bought another person's photography. "But you have all those nice cameras - why didn't you just take the picture?"

Who cares that you have a dumb friend that doesn't appreciate the things you appreciate.  Who fucking cares.  That extends to everything beyond art.  You can buy a nice car and someone will say, "But you could have bought a Kia and it's the same thing."  
Nepenthe wrote:People think art should be cheap as hell, and it's like "How the fuck am I supposed to eat if I charge you $5 for a 50 hour job?"
It's always been tough to make a living doing art - the "starving artist" trope exists for a reason.  There are good artists that get paid a shitload and have their work appreciated by many and have the ability to pick and choose what commissions they want to do because there's a line out the door waiting on them.  But many do work a ton of hours to produce works that don't sell for that much.  What exactly do you want out of the world?  To force people to buy art at higher prices from people they don't appreciate the work of?  There's nothing you can do about this.  You either try to become one of the lucky few that can dazzle people with amazing art and become a high-demand artist and charge a lot of money for it, or you don't?  Is this like a general complaint against humanity or something?  What does she want solved here?  An economic system where the government pays artists to make art nobody wants?  I don't understand.   

Pomerlaw wrote:I think jealousy plays a role. They hate their jobs/life and secretly wish they would have artistic talent or craft.
Nepenthe wrote:They.... they can have that by just, like.... drawing.
 
Like, it really is that simple.

People can just...like... not be poor by like...studying hard and practicing things like...math.  For the life of me, I don't understand why she doesn't accept that argument?  It's the same exact fucking thing?
Lost Lemurian wrote:"You're so lucky to be able to draw like that."
Nepenthe wrote:Also another sentiment that I hate. Like, thanks for erasing the thousands of hours I spent practicing and wrestling with insecurity and imposter syndrome!

"You're lucky to be able to go to get a good job."  Like thanks for erasing the thousands of hours of work?

Again, same exact shit.  But no, it's different. Nepenthe's entirely worldview and philosophy is "Me, me, me"

Holy fuck dude, I'm starting to think you're more pathetic than Benji. Did you seriously have a giant ass conversation by yourself with her?

What kind of mental illness forces you to browse era and do this?


Can you please keep it down, I'm trying to have a conversation here.
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It's not a real thread without Blueballs.

Y'all need to respect xer.  Hmph
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(07-03-2025, 10:02 PM)Blueball wrote:
(07-03-2025, 05:14 PM)benji wrote: I've given you more than enough time here to pretend to display good faith after falsely claiming you wanted to actually debate and discuss topis

I literally never claimed this. Other than an obsessive stalker you also see things now?

I know you are panicking because you are not used to debate people, but come on.

Is that you Jeff?
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It is.  As soon as Benji posted his tiny house, he came on here and started fuming.   Very sad to see.
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(07-03-2025, 02:13 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote: They're now all in on "Lets boycott this company because they fired people, surely this will protect the people who weren't laid off"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/

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(07-03-2025, 02:11 PM)Jansen wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/cancel-your-game-pass.1234761/page-7#post-142260291
Hoot, post: 142260291, member: 32723 wrote:Lot's of people going "well I'm fine with funding genocide but i DRAW THE LINE AT....actually I'm also fine with shitty business practices".
Also spare me with the "this would lead to more closure". Even with studios doing incredibly well they still get closed. Hi-Fi Rush's closure is still fresh dammit. You ain't preventing shit. You're just telling them you're fine with whatever they want to do
And let's not forget that Micro-dollarsign-oft is committing genocide on multiple fronts

Tango gameworks didn't do incredibly well though  Confused

isn't microsoft on the boycott list? They should expect more layoffs.  Hmph

Sorry but I have no sympathy for anyone still working for a genocide company.
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(07-03-2025, 10:34 PM)Propagandhim wrote: It is.  As soon as Benji posted his tiny house, he came on here and started fuming.   Very sad to see.

Benji posted Jeff Marvel's House and I missed it?!

Thanks to blue balls for the Streisand effect.

Edit: can't find it. I've been had.
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I will like Blueball posts and no one will stop me.
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(07-03-2025, 09:57 PM)Blueball wrote:
(07-03-2025, 05:01 PM)Propagandhim wrote:
Quote:This, based on my experience, is absolutely spot-on. The utterly instantaneous transition from mockery in pursuing the humanities because it's fruitless to mockery for being successful in humanities because it's easy is a microcosm of everything that's wrong with society's assignment of value based on money and money only.

What the fuck are these people talking about?  I've never seen anyone being mocked for being successful in humanities.  Sure, I've seen people mock liberal arts students or whatever...but mock people who are successful at it?  What does that even look like?  "Lol!  You make a living writing books about the literary themes in Dostoevsky's work?  Wow, fuck you for that!"  Nobody does that.

Quote:  

My wife and I have several local art pieces in our home - canvas prints and some photography, etc.

"Oh, cool artwork... where did you buy it?"
"Thanks! It's from a local artist we always enjoyed during the art fair, so we asked if we could commission a piece with our family room's colors."
"How much was that?"
"A little less than two grand."
"WHAT? It's canvas and acrylic paint - you could have done it yourself for fifty bucks."
"That is literally not the point at all."


I've had this conversation a dozen times. Or, the absolute mouth gape I get when I tell someone I bought another person's photography. "But you have all those nice cameras - why didn't you just take the picture?"

Who cares that you have a dumb friend that doesn't appreciate the things you appreciate.  Who fucking cares.  That extends to everything beyond art.  You can buy a nice car and someone will say, "But you could have bought a Kia and it's the same thing."  
Nepenthe wrote:People think art should be cheap as hell, and it's like "How the fuck am I supposed to eat if I charge you $5 for a 50 hour job?"
It's always been tough to make a living doing art - the "starving artist" trope exists for a reason.  There are good artists that get paid a shitload and have their work appreciated by many and have the ability to pick and choose what commissions they want to do because there's a line out the door waiting on them.  But many do work a ton of hours to produce works that don't sell for that much.  What exactly do you want out of the world?  To force people to buy art at higher prices from people they don't appreciate the work of?  There's nothing you can do about this.  You either try to become one of the lucky few that can dazzle people with amazing art and become a high-demand artist and charge a lot of money for it, or you don't?  Is this like a general complaint against humanity or something?  What does she want solved here?  An economic system where the government pays artists to make art nobody wants?  I don't understand.   

Pomerlaw wrote:I think jealousy plays a role. They hate their jobs/life and secretly wish they would have artistic talent or craft.
Nepenthe wrote:They.... they can have that by just, like.... drawing.
 
Like, it really is that simple.

People can just...like... not be poor by like...studying hard and practicing things like...math.  For the life of me, I don't understand why she doesn't accept that argument?  It's the same exact fucking thing?
Lost Lemurian wrote:"You're so lucky to be able to draw like that."
Nepenthe wrote:Also another sentiment that I hate. Like, thanks for erasing the thousands of hours I spent practicing and wrestling with insecurity and imposter syndrome!

"You're lucky to be able to go to get a good job."  Like thanks for erasing the thousands of hours of work?

Again, same exact shit.  But no, it's different. Nepenthe's entirely worldview and philosophy is "Me, me, me"

Holy fuck dude, I'm starting to think you're more pathetic than Benji. Did you seriously have a giant ass conversation by yourself with her?

What kind of mental illness forces you to browse era and do this?

He's Italian
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(07-03-2025, 09:57 PM)Blueball wrote:
(07-03-2025, 05:01 PM)Propagandhim wrote:
Quote:This, based on my experience, is absolutely spot-on. The utterly instantaneous transition from mockery in pursuing the humanities because it's fruitless to mockery for being successful in humanities because it's easy is a microcosm of everything that's wrong with society's assignment of value based on money and money only.

What the fuck are these people talking about?  I've never seen anyone being mocked for being successful in humanities.  Sure, I've seen people mock liberal arts students or whatever...but mock people who are successful at it?  What does that even look like?  "Lol!  You make a living writing books about the literary themes in Dostoevsky's work?  Wow, fuck you for that!"  Nobody does that.

Quote:  

My wife and I have several local art pieces in our home - canvas prints and some photography, etc.

"Oh, cool artwork... where did you buy it?"
"Thanks! It's from a local artist we always enjoyed during the art fair, so we asked if we could commission a piece with our family room's colors."
"How much was that?"
"A little less than two grand."
"WHAT? It's canvas and acrylic paint - you could have done it yourself for fifty bucks."
"That is literally not the point at all."


I've had this conversation a dozen times. Or, the absolute mouth gape I get when I tell someone I bought another person's photography. "But you have all those nice cameras - why didn't you just take the picture?"

Who cares that you have a dumb friend that doesn't appreciate the things you appreciate.  Who fucking cares.  That extends to everything beyond art.  You can buy a nice car and someone will say, "But you could have bought a Kia and it's the same thing."  
Nepenthe wrote:People think art should be cheap as hell, and it's like "How the fuck am I supposed to eat if I charge you $5 for a 50 hour job?"
It's always been tough to make a living doing art - the "starving artist" trope exists for a reason.  There are good artists that get paid a shitload and have their work appreciated by many and have the ability to pick and choose what commissions they want to do because there's a line out the door waiting on them.  But many do work a ton of hours to produce works that don't sell for that much.  What exactly do you want out of the world?  To force people to buy art at higher prices from people they don't appreciate the work of?  There's nothing you can do about this.  You either try to become one of the lucky few that can dazzle people with amazing art and become a high-demand artist and charge a lot of money for it, or you don't?  Is this like a general complaint against humanity or something?  What does she want solved here?  An economic system where the government pays artists to make art nobody wants?  I don't understand.   

Pomerlaw wrote:I think jealousy plays a role. They hate their jobs/life and secretly wish they would have artistic talent or craft.
Nepenthe wrote:They.... they can have that by just, like.... drawing.
 
Like, it really is that simple.

People can just...like... not be poor by like...studying hard and practicing things like...math.  For the life of me, I don't understand why she doesn't accept that argument?  It's the same exact fucking thing?
Lost Lemurian wrote:"You're so lucky to be able to draw like that."
Nepenthe wrote:Also another sentiment that I hate. Like, thanks for erasing the thousands of hours I spent practicing and wrestling with insecurity and imposter syndrome!

"You're lucky to be able to go to get a good job."  Like thanks for erasing the thousands of hours of work?

Again, same exact shit.  But no, it's different. Nepenthe's entirely worldview and philosophy is "Me, me, me"

Holy fuck dude, I'm starting to think you're more pathetic than Benji. Did you seriously have a giant ass conversation by yourself with her?

What kind of mental illness forces you to browse era and do this?


Him, chudlord  ufup
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(07-03-2025, 10:44 PM)Alpacx wrote:
(07-03-2025, 10:34 PM)Propagandhim wrote: It is.  As soon as Benji posted his tiny house, he came on here and started fuming.   Very sad to see.
Benji posted Jeff Marvel's House and I missed it?!
Thanks to blue balls for the Streisand effect.
Edit: can't find it. I've been had.


Uh huh, I've been monitoring it around the clock with the Zillow API and Twitch alerts so I can send Jeff an MCU themed pizza aimed at adult superhero fans without mental illnesses that just happen to argue about super heroes all day - as soon as his Twitch stream goes live and his house price edges up to $199,999 (Earth 199999).


It's possible I have him confused with someone else.  It's hard to keep up.
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(07-03-2025, 09:24 PM)Jansen wrote:
(07-03-2025, 08:09 PM)Potato wrote:
(07-03-2025, 02:08 PM)Jansen wrote: I love how the people whining don't post anything to laugh at themselves 

Typical self-serving cunts while some of us try to contribute something worthwhile in this life  Social Justice Warrior 2

Shut the fuck up and do the work, bitch. I haven't got the time or the energy to trawl Retardera for laughs.

Besides, I pay high prices in the like economy.

Benji, I'm about to murder someone in the digital realm again!

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Some people pay their way in posts, others pay their way in likes. 

STFU and post hog, bitch!
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RoboMagik wrote:So people already run the defence for Microsoft. WTF.

"That video was only vertical silce", "been 7 years" etc.

There is no point to put any economic rationale behind those layoffs and studio closure other then excessive greed, appeasing shareholders for quarterly reports.
This is proven time and time again.

Some users here would probably eagerly write those layoff emails if asked by Phil Spencer and given XBox sticker.

You guys complain (rightfully) about how many GAAS games Sony approved and has not delivered results, specially games that took years to develop and then failed as hell. No defending Microsoft mismanagement but cancelling games that are in development hell and have not delivered anything is not being greedy but being not retarded. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wc-microsoft-is-closing-down-xbox-studio-the-initiative-perfect-dark-canceled.1234206/page-15#post-142249980

I don’t think every single game in development hell should be cancelled, just cause you never know what it would result (hello, Fortnite) but 7 years just to get a vertical slice. Mike
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Microsoft has always seemed pretty sus to me.
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(07-03-2025, 10:50 PM)Straight Edge wrote:
(07-03-2025, 09:57 PM)Blueball wrote:
(07-03-2025, 05:01 PM)Propagandhim wrote: What the fuck are these people talking about?  I've never seen anyone being mocked for being successful in humanities.  Sure, I've seen people mock liberal arts students or whatever...but mock people who are successful at it?  What does that even look like?  "Lol!  You make a living writing books about the literary themes in Dostoevsky's work?  Wow, fuck you for that!"  Nobody does that.


Who cares that you have a dumb friend that doesn't appreciate the things you appreciate.  Who fucking cares.  That extends to everything beyond art.  You can buy a nice car and someone will say, "But you could have bought a Kia and it's the same thing."  
It's always been tough to make a living doing art - the "starving artist" trope exists for a reason.  There are good artists that get paid a shitload and have their work appreciated by many and have the ability to pick and choose what commissions they want to do because there's a line out the door waiting on them.  But many do work a ton of hours to produce works that don't sell for that much.  What exactly do you want out of the world?  To force people to buy art at higher prices from people they don't appreciate the work of?  There's nothing you can do about this.  You either try to become one of the lucky few that can dazzle people with amazing art and become a high-demand artist and charge a lot of money for it, or you don't?  Is this like a general complaint against humanity or something?  What does she want solved here?  An economic system where the government pays artists to make art nobody wants?  I don't understand.   


People can just...like... not be poor by like...studying hard and practicing things like...math.  For the life of me, I don't understand why she doesn't accept that argument?  It's the same exact fucking thing?

"You're lucky to be able to go to get a good job."  Like thanks for erasing the thousands of hours of work?

Again, same exact shit.  But no, it's different. Nepenthe's entirely worldview and philosophy is "Me, me, me"

Holy fuck dude, I'm starting to think you're more pathetic than Benji. Did you seriously have a giant ass conversation by yourself with her?

What kind of mental illness forces you to browse era and do this?

He's Italian

And there's no cure, mothafuckaaaaaaaaaas  

*primes my asshole with olive oil and sticks a grissini torinesi breadstick up my ass which is normal to me in my culture but everyone is looking around like I'm crazy*
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(07-03-2025, 10:53 PM)Boredfrom wrote:
RoboMagik wrote:So people already run the defence for Microsoft. WTF.

"That video was only vertical silce", "been 7 years" etc.

There is no point to put any economic rationale behind those layoffs and studio closure other then excessive greed, appeasing shareholders for quarterly reports.
This is proven time and time again.

Some users here would probably eagerly write those layoff emails if asked by Phil Spencer and given XBox sticker.

You guys complain (rightfully) about how many GAAS games Sony approved and has not delivered results, specially games that took years to develop and then failed as hell. No defending Microsoft mismanagement but cancelling games that are in development hell and have not delivered anything is not being greedy but being not retarded. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wc-microsoft-is-closing-down-xbox-studio-the-initiative-perfect-dark-canceled.1234206/page-15#post-142249980

I don’t think every single game in development hell should be cancelled, just cause you never know what it would result (hello, Fortnite) but 7 years just to get a vertical slice. Mike

This person doesn't seem all that well

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Quote:Games get cancelled all the time. Looking at PD in retrospect, especially now that someone in the know has stated much of what we saw wasn't actually real, and understanding why it was cancelled is not the same thing as hoping people lose their jobs over it. That's an unhelpful remark. Unless you can cite specific examples.

Ascribing rationale where it is none but just a pure greed is not only unhelpful but harmful in big scheme of things. (like so many reports of studios delivering beyond imagination and still being hit with layoffs i.e Insomaniac).

Compartmentalizing this whole situation to point out that "this one specific project" wasn't coming along so it makes economic sense. This is non-sense and brainrot.

I shouldn't be suprised I guess, that's fanboy brain at work: always compartmentalizing to ease off any discomfort in safety blanket of "ackchyually it make economic sense" when it is absolutely not what it is all about.

Not in the slightest interested in a discussion and just proclaiming that there is no rationale to any of this ever.
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