Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Uncle]

by all accounts iwata was a good guy who accomplished a lot and if there was anyone to look up to in the game industry it'd be him

that's still no excuse for posting cringe and treating his death like 9/11 

[Uncle]

[Steven Snell]

Listen Aerith's cool and all. But it's so funny how Princess Bubblegum's attempt at coming across as a woman that everything needs to be female and I only like female characters.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/astro-bot-finally-adds-those-bots-and-more-in-latest-dlc.1240605/page-4#post-142549911

Sephiroth but no Aerith. Jesus, I hate the marketing arm of SE.

[Eric Cartman]

From my vantage point, which is of course subjective, none of what [USER=54911]Vaenyr[/USER] posted could be viewed as "justifying war crimes."

And to ensure that this is a general comment rather than a specific one, I'm noting that I used to find it disconcerting that mods -- none of whom, as far as I know, are trained in international humanitarian law -- routinely deploy legalistic language in moderation notices. It's objectively true that things that occur in armed conflict may rise to the colloquial level of tragedy, but aren't "war crimes" in the legal sense. I got over this, after a ban on my own end, because I realized they were just referring to "war crimes" in the colloquial sense.

I believe there's a fundamental difference between stating "this argument exists, and these actors use it," versus "I openly advocate for this argument."

And it sometimes seems like the former is considered to be the same as the latter.

By the way, I think anyone (Hasan included) who thinks that Russia's invasion of Crimea and then Greater Ukraine is remotely justified is a flat-out idiot, but I don't see a problem with noting that it's one of the lawfare-based tactics that Moscow uses to drum up support. Any understanding of Moscow's recent aggression cannot be understood without appreciating its territorial ambitions, the fall of the Soviet Union, its designs on the Caucus region, and Dugin's Foundations of Geopolitics.

I know hasanbara when I see it

[Eric Cartman]

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Wow, what a perfectly reasonable position to have. No wonder RE freaks the fuck out.

Contrapoints has always been willing to call out hypocrisies and inconsistencies in stances, so has always been a badthink tweet away from getting cancelled.

They did a whole thing about JKR and outright said "C'mon trans activists taking photos outside her fucking front door and being all 'omg why she bully us?' you know exactly what you're doing" which also caught them some flak.

Its pretty funny how people on era are threading the needle with their "Who even is this person that I should listen to?" which is suspiciously carefully gender neutral in their descriptors to avoid any misgendering bans, when the normal response to "Youtuber has a hot take" would be "Who the fuck is this guy anyway?"

[Eric Cartman]

How about 'stop posting' CP.

[yetanotheraccountholyf]

man this Superman movie sounds really bad lmao

[Eric Cartman]

I absolutely adore how that thread proves everything she said from her statement. From the vague villifaction of Zionism, to the lack of a positive effect (and likely negative one) to their efforts.

I don’t watch Breadtubers, but this makes me almost want to give a shit for her.  Almost.

Still not as dumb as claiming "if you squint" makes you sinophobic

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/microsoft-touts-500-million-ai-savings-while-slashing-jobs.1239876/page-2#post-142496499

 User banned (2 weeks): Trolling over multiple posts

Lol. Absolutely zero of my really good dev colleagues like relying on AI for prod work. Only the shitty ones use it like a crutch and have no idea wtf is happening.

👍🏼

There's this niche little indie franchise called Call Of Duty that seems to be doing okay using generative AI for the last few years

https://research.activision.com/publications/2024/08/Neural_Light_Grid

[Eric Cartman]

That was actually great. It was darker than I expected. Its going to be hilarious as the pro genocide crowd will hate this movie....but will have to pretend as to the reasons why.

You think Israel is the only asshole Middle East government that the U.S. supports? You think this is the first time that cape stories have used undetermined Middle East or East Asian country to do superficial political commentary? Do you think this is the first time a supervillain wants to conquer a country?  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/superman-ot-look-up.1236843/page-19#post-142532202

Fuck, its not even the first time James Gunn has trodden this ground IN THE DCU, he's just moved the location;

• The Suicide Squad - Asshole Dictator in fictional LATAM country planning on using superpowers to kill his rivals, and is assassinated by a US sanctioned superhero team
  
• Creature Commandos - Asshole dictator in fictional East European country planning on using superpowers to kill her rivals, and is assassinated by a US sanctioned superhero team
  

I'm gonna go ahead and assume the nominal plot for Superman issssss..... asshole dictator in fictional Middle Eastern country planning on using super powers to kill their rivals and is assassinated by a US sanctioned super team???

[Eric Cartman]

honestly it feels like we came so close to that happening, there were tons of other people banned from all over the place with similar sentiment around that time

imagine she'd been banned long ago and was relegated to some quiet substack this whole time, and wasn't able to demonstrate to less influential people that they weren't alone in their opinion

would something like the cass review have even happened? would kids still be out there getting permanently mutilated because discord told them to?

Yes, JKR had literally nothing do with it despite what her detractors claim.

When a publically funded body loses a court case and then has to pay (publically funded) damages for what the court has determined is - at best - gross negligence and malpractice, there is - OFC - going to be a review of what the fuck happened and why.

[Eric Cartman]

Another part of the law is coming into force on July 25th, requiring sites and apps containing porn and harmful content to provide “highly effective age assurance.” Platforms that don’t comply with the new rules will face fines of up to £18 million ($24 million) or 10 percent of their worldwide revenue, whichever is higher."

what happens if the site says fuck off?

the site owners can never fly internationally to the UK or risk incarceration? oh no...?

like is there a provision that the UK reserves the right to block access to the site for all of the UK?

Uhhhh... you didn't know there's like, a fucking UK High Court .hosts file that all UK ISPs have to adhere to?

There's a whole bunch of sites outright inaccessible from the UK (outside of VPNs / proxies or TOR type shit). It's mostly torrents and warez stuff.
They (whoever) just has to go to the court and say "ban this site plz here's why" and it gets added to the inaccessible list.

[jooseloose]

Spoiler: long post in spanish (click to show)(click to hide)

Bueno... vamos a escribir un post largo/diatriba porque... bueno, algo cansado de estar viendo gente que se cree mejor que otra por tener privilegios de primer mundo. Escribo en español porque 1) puedo expresarme mucho mejor al ser mi lengua madre, 2) me da pereza escribir en ingles en ocasiones como esta y 3) si no es capaz de traducir por su cuenta, se nota que solo viene a postear aquí solo por sentirse bien.

Comencemos con los que piden ejemplos, perfectamente puedo colocar varios, pero me quedo con 2-3 recientes:

1. El mes pasado hubo un movimiento telurico cerca a Bogotá (capital de Colombia, donde vivo). Una de las formas para averiguar datos del sismo una vez que pasa es usando la pagina del sistema del Servicio Geologico Colombiano, pero como es de esperar, la cantidad de gente que trata de acceder a la pagina web de la entidad es tanta, que la pagina simplemente se cae por minutos (o hasta horas en algunas situaciones). ¿En donde más informa el SGC sobre sismos? Twitter, así la población general puede compartir datos sin que se caiga y hacerse una idea de cosas que puede hacer o ayudar. Bajo la estúpida lógica que pintan varios personajes de ERA, ¿tengo que considerar a las personas que utilizan el servicio tanto para informar como para ser informados como apoyantes a la causa Nazi? Obviamente no.

2. Desafortunadamente en mi país (Colombia) tenemos un conflicto armado interno de larga data, mucha gente que no esta en las principales ciudades o cascos urbanos no tienen acceso a dispositivos, y los pocos que si tienen, pues para poder ser vistos (ya sea para difundir un emprendimiento local, informar a la comunidad, o para mostrar una noticia de un ataque en desarrollo) utilizan los medios de difusión más concurridos, entre los cuales esta Twitter. Nuevamente, bajo la estúpida lógica que pintan varios personajes de ERA, ¿tengo que considerar a esas personas que utilizan el servicio tanto para informar como para ser informados como apoyantes a la causa Nazi? Obviamente no.

3. Muchos de los portales de noticias de nuestro país están usando el modelo de paywall para acceder a su contenido. Ahora, considerando que adicional, dichos medios de comunicación tradicionales (ya sea por radio, televisión o directamente por internet) siempre han apoyado a sectores conservadores o de derecha/ultraderecha, las personas que tienen posiciones de izquierda recurren a las redes sociales para poder transmitir sus opiniones para que lleguen a la mayor cantidad de personas, dentro de las cuales están Facebook o Twitter. Una vez más, bajo la estúpida lógica que pintan varios personajes de ERA, ¿tengo que considerar a estas personas, que utilizan el servicio para difundir sus posiciones y conseguir que más personas traten de cambiar sus ideologías o visiones del mundo, como apoyantes a la causa Nazi? Obviamente no.

Ahora, tomando mi experiencia personal, soy una persona que le gusta mucho leer e informarse de muchas cosas que pasan tanto en mi país (en todos los contextos) como en otras partes del mundo ya que eso me ayuda a tener una visión mucho más grande, me da acceso a vivencias y posturas que no podría encontrar en donde vivo y para ello, busco información de todos los lados que pueda entre los cuales está Twitter, de ahí que después pueda analizarla, hacerme una idea y poder tomar mis decisiones. Según ERA, ¿con mis acciones se me acusa de ser apoyante a la causa Nazi por usar Twitter, aun cuando ni me conoce de carne y hueso, ni sabe que he hecho, ni cual es mi ideología, ni absolutamente nada?

Considero que es muy hipócrita de mi parte estar diciéndole a los demás que son Nazis o que apoyan la causa Nazi por usar una red social, cuando lastimosamente mi vida esta inundada de elementos hechos por empresas y/o conglomerados que violan los derechos humanos en todas partes del mundo, desde el computador donde estoy escribiendo, el software que uso para escribir este post, el celular que uso para comunicarme con mis amigos/familiares, la ropa con la que me visto, la comida que como, la casa donde vivo, etc. La única forma real de no apoyar a todas estas empresas, es deshaciéndome de todo esto, dejar mi casa, irme a una montaña y vivir como ermitaño. Pero pues para efectos prácticos es una soberana estupidez, antes lo que hago es aislarme del mundo y que los grupos dominantes sigan haciendo lo que se les venga en gana.

Desafortunadamente ninguno de los servicios alternativos que tanto cacarean en ERA, no han tenido una acogida con la cual decir que el publico general pueda migrar de manera fácil y efectiva.

    Threads, es una red parte de Meta, otra red social controlada por un tipo que tiene ideologías de derecha/ultraderecha pero que a diferencia de Musk y Twitter, lo hace de manera más solapada, el contenido son bots, agregadores de contenido que ya tienen en Twitter, influencers de Instagram que creyeron que sus mismas tácticas iban a funcionar. Hay poca o nula interacción.
    Bluesky ha tomado algo de fuerza solo para la gente de habla inglesa (y algunos que hablan portugués cuando Brasil bloqueo Twitter en Brasil) pero para el resto de idiomas, el contenido es simplemente bots y agregadores de contenido que ya tienen en Twitter, hay poca o nula interacción.
    Mastodon con su red federativa descentralizada es aun más difuso y nebuloso donde menos se tiene el control para buscar información.

Si esa es mi opinion de las alternativas como alguien que tiene un dominio básico/decente sobre redes sociales, ahora imagínese para la gran mayoría de la población que normalmente sigue la corriente y se queda en las redes sociales de preferencia (Facebook y Twitter).

Y es aquí donde muchos de los los que postean aquí en ERA ni siquiera se toman el tiempo para pensar de manera razonable. Al ser una comunidad principalmente estadounidense y/o de lengua inglesa, tienen DEMASIADAS falencias en su visión del mundo y les importa cinco la realidad de los demás. Están en una burbuja tan pequeña que creen que solo su posición o su visión del mundo es la correcta y el resto es una mano de idiotas que siguen la corriente. No más, un poco más adelante vean como han tratado a las personas que hablaron sobre Japon (un pais donde Twitter esta basicamente arraigado a la cultura en muchos aspectos) como razón por la cual siguen en Twitter y en su egocentrismo por quedar como persona correcta de mejor moral, menosprecian y en cierta forma "humillan" con mensajes como "Ah, es que yo puedo encontrar desde mi comodidad la información que solo a mi me importa en otro lado, entonces usted es una basura por no buscar en otras partes su información" (aun cuando a veces esa información solo la encuentra en Twitter). Y esto no es solamente de este tema, esta misma logica se presenta con muchos otros temas sensibles (caso Israel/Palestina) o politicos (en ejemplo reciente, la llorada que pegaron varios usuarios estadounidenses por aca por la cantidad ingente de noticias politicas estadounidenses porque "no quiero leer sobre la realidad de mi pais en ERA porque me siento mal, hay que filtrarla/ocultarla").

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-will-it-take-to-get-you-off-twitter.1239987/page-7#post-142532250

Basically goes into why Spanish speaking users like him use twitter, and chastises Era for virtue signaling with banning Twitter links and attacking people for still using it. Would be banned if this was in English though which is extra funny, see if he gets caught

Pasted it into Chat GPT to translate. Holy shit that's a based post

I'd copy the translation here but no doubt one of the Era mods will see it and the user would be be banned for Dismissing Concerns™ and trying to circumvent a ban by posting in their native language.

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ann-final-fantasy-xvi-producer-on-the-series-future-talks-multi-platform-strategy-ff17-not-locked-to-being-turn-based-lessons-from-ff16-more.1240902/#post-142535004

Is it too much to hope for some prominent and well-written women? Is it too much to ask for a female protagonist?

Final Fantasy protagonists are so androgynous you could genuinely mistake Lightning for being a bishonen protag

[Taco Bell Tower]

Listen Aerith's cool and all. But it's so funny how Princess Bubblegum's attempt at coming across as a woman that everything needs to be female and I only like female characters.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/astro-bot-finally-adds-those-bots-and-more-in-latest-dlc.1240605/page-4#post-142549911

Sephiroth but no Aerith. Jesus, I hate the marketing arm of SE.

2B must be too   for him.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ann-final-fantasy-xvi-producer-on-the-series-future-talks-multi-platform-strategy-ff17-not-locked-to-being-turn-based-lessons-from-ff16-more.1240902/#post-142535004

Is it too much to hope for some prominent and well-written women? Is it too much to ask for a female protagonist?

Final Fantasy protagonists are so androgynous you could genuinely could mistake Lightning for being a bishonen protag

People noticed Lightning looks so much like Cloud 

[simiansmarts]

Listen Aerith's cool and all. But it's so funny how Princess Bubblegum's attempt at coming across as a woman that everything needs to be female and I only like female characters.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/astro-bot-finally-adds-those-bots-and-more-in-latest-dlc.1240605/page-4#post-142549911

Sephiroth but no Aerith. Jesus, I hate the marketing arm of SE.

It's an overcorrection for his 20+ years of living as a man with male interests. 
 
No real woman talks like the transbians of RE.

[Boredfrom]

That was actually great. It was darker than I expected. Its going to be hilarious as the pro genocide crowd will hate this movie....but will have to pretend as to the reasons why.

You think Israel is the only asshole Middle East government that the U.S. supports? You think this is the first time that cape stories have used undetermined Middle East or East Asian country to do superficial political commentary? Do you think this is the first time a supervillain wants to conquer a country?  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/superman-ot-look-up.1236843/page-19#post-142532202

Fuck, its not even the first time James Gunn has trodden this ground IN THE DCU, he's just moved the location;

• The Suicide Squad - Asshole Dictator in fictional LATAM country planning on using superpowers to kill his rivals, and is assassinated by a US sanctioned superhero team
  
• Creature Commandos - Asshole dictator in fictional East European country planning on using superpowers to kill her rivals, and is assassinated by a US sanctioned superhero team
  

I'm gonna go ahead and assume the nominal plot for Superman issssss..... asshole dictator in fictional Middle Eastern country planning on using super powers to kill their rivals and is assassinated by a US sanctioned super team???

Being fair, is a Corpo super hero team in this case and the government didn’t want to intervene.

[Jansen]

I was 15 years old when Iwata passed away. I remember very vividly waking up to the news, running to my sister's door to awaken her to it as well. Like so many of my age bracket I was a very ardent believer in, and defender of, Satoru Iwata as president. Reading about Iwata's triumphs in computer programming made me interested in the field and led me to study computer science in university. I believe that this too was true of many people my age.

I was devastated by Iwata's death that summer, and it has stuck with me throughout the past decade as well. I suspect that I've sometimes made mention of Iwata while arguing about Nintendo online. I rue such cases, because I believe it to be disrespectful to the life of a person who was so clearly beloved by the people around him. I did not lose Satoru Iwata, while those few people did.

I've often found myself very upset about the timing of Iwata's death: he passed away following an E3 presentation that disappointed many people, including my 15-year-old self, and I've always had a sense that he died feeling apologetic. More recently though I've realized that this feeling too is disrespectful. I instead believe that he had faith and resolve in the direction of the then-forthcoming Nintendo Switch and such initiatives as the partnership with Universal Studios.

I hope that my thoughts resonate with some people and help them to sort through their own feelings today.

I felt similar when Brandon Lee died but then 5mins later I was over it

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bethesda-should-let-warhorse-studios-work-with-elder-scrolls.1241478/

[Boredfrom]

So kids, if you want to save lives in the Middle East, you need the help of a corpo sponsor group, the rich billionaire in question being another Trump inspired DC character: Maxwell Lord.

[Boredfrom]

by all accounts iwata was a good guy who accomplished a lot and if there was anyone to look up to in the game industry it'd be him

that's still no excuse for posting cringe and treating his death like 9/11 

By all accounts, it sounds like he was an awesome person, but oh boy I didn’t exactly like him as CEO… but then again, the consoles under his tenure had way more personality than what the Switch ended having. We will never get another street pass.

[Eric Cartman]

I moved some of this discussion to the movies thread so theres more I said there, but

Being fair, is a Corpo super hero team in this case and the government didn’t want to intervene.

So kids, if you want to save lives in the Middle East, you need the help of a corpo sponsor group, the rich billionaire in question being another Trump inspired DC character: Maxwell Lord.

Is it playing maxwell lord as a trump analogue, or is he more of a Dick Cheney type running a PMC that can serve US interests with plausible deniability (also a recurring theme in Gunns previous DC stuff)?

JLI is one of my favorite incarnations of the Justice League, so I am legit hyped to see total fucking prick Green Lantern (Guy Gardner) as a character.
There's not been much of an exploration in film of complete asshole super 'heroes' yet - the MCU tried with USAgent, but fucked it up by making him actually kind of right.

[Uncle]

Another part of the law is coming into force on July 25th, requiring sites and apps containing porn and harmful content to provide “highly effective age assurance.” Platforms that don’t comply with the new rules will face fines of up to £18 million ($24 million) or 10 percent of their worldwide revenue, whichever is higher."

what happens if the site says fuck off?

the site owners can never fly internationally to the UK or risk incarceration? oh no...?

like is there a provision that the UK reserves the right to block access to the site for all of the UK?

Uhhhh... you didn't know there's like, a fucking UK High Court .hosts file that all UK ISPs have to adhere to?

There's a whole bunch of sites outright inaccessible from the UK (outside of VPNs / proxies or TOR type shit). It's mostly torrents and warez stuff.
They (whoever) just has to go to the court and say "ban this site plz here's why" and it gets added to the inaccessible list.

one, that's horrifying, but two, that's not the same as a provision in the bill that says "if you don't pay then we block your site"

I thought I'd heard high profile stories in the past of sites like twitter and google just openly flaunting all these fines and saying ban us then, bitch

[Eric Cartman]

one, that's horrifying, but two, that's not the same as a provision in the bill that says "if you don't pay then we block your site"

I thought I'd heard high profile stories in the past of sites like twitter and google just openly flaunting all these fines and saying ban us then, bitch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_the_United_Kingdom

they previously blocked all of fucking wikipedia over a single page about some fucking band, sooooooooooooooo.............

[Eric Cartman]

Just watched AngryJoe review. Yea, I think I'll wait for the streaming release...

Because that chud is a barometer for what's good?

You really shouldn't make a decision based on what a chud who had a sexual assault allegation against him said.

Who the fuck is looking to that dude for opinions in this day & age?

I... wouldn't listen to a Doug Walker lateral when it comes to movie reviews.

Angry Joe is so awful lol

surprised people still watch his content

i cringe at the mere thought of hitting *play* on anything he puts out

[Uncle]

one, that's horrifying, but two, that's not the same as a provision in the bill that says "if you don't pay then we block your site"

I thought I'd heard high profile stories in the past of sites like twitter and google just openly flaunting all these fines and saying ban us then, bitch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_the_United_Kingdom

they previously blocked all of fucking wikipedia over a single page about some fucking band, sooooooooooooooo.............

the interesting thing here is that practically all of these are based on file sharing or piracy, and wikipedia and wayback machine seem to be the only examples of pornography

none of them say "blocked due to unpaid fees owed the UK government" or "blocked due to unimplemented regulatory demands"

bizarre that they don't block kiwifarms, and in fact kiwifarms had to block the UK instead

[Eric Cartman]

Its mostly piracy stuff because its mostly the big US telcos filing lawsuits to get things blocked - if someone whos a kiwifarms lolcow filed a high court injunction and kiwi farms didnt take down the thread about them (which they wouldn't), it would get added to the list.

If your pornhubs or whatever dont chuck in an age gate (which they kinda should have been doing anyway tbh, 'yes sir, im definitely over 18 button' is pretty fucking weak sauce in terms of preventing children accessing pretty fucking hardcore porn I think we can all agree, right?) they'll also just get added to the list, but its barely any fucking effort their end to not comply. I'm pretty sure they'd kinda prefer people have accounts anyway.

Its more bullshit that you can't just opt in from your ISP though, given you need to be of legal age to consent to having a legal contract in order to fucking have an ISP in the first place though.

[Eric Cartman]

[benji]

what happens if the site says fuck off?

the site owners can never fly internationally to the UK or risk incarceration? oh no...?

like is there a provision that the UK reserves the right to block access to the site for all of the UK?

one, that's horrifying, but two, that's not the same as a provision in the bill that says "if you don't pay then we block your site"

I thought I'd heard high profile stories in the past of sites like twitter and google just openly flaunting all these fines and saying ban us then, bitch

Eric already responded to this but I want to add that the US is the only country that doesn't have a country level internet restriction scheme. The feds could do it (illegally), but they generally take down servers directly since most are hosted in the US or friendly countries anyway. They also rely on ISP's being willing to block things themselves.

on behalf of benjamin I went through the whole process of checking if the rules apply to thebire.com...

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/pornography/adults-only-what-to-do-if-your-online-service-allows-pornography

and at the end of everything it just said... "unclear"

what the fuck? don't you know if the rules should or shouldn't apply to a site?

UK be like "ok this site hosts a questionable image, are we going to fine them" and the regulatory bodies just shrug

Without looking I'm going to assume it's like the EU laws and doesn't apply to me because I'm a single person, our traffic is so low and no money is made from it. For example, I don't have to comply with the GDPR. Even with the far larger traffic I doubt Null has to. ResetERA.com has to and from what I've read from EU people doesn't really despite being owned by Swedes.

Somewhere in the bill there's likely a similar provision about who has to comply, almost all legislation is written like that. There are plenty of US laws (about other stuff) that don't apply to The Bire because it's really just me.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/popular-youtuber-contrapoints-shares-her-views-on-the-ongoing-israel-palastine-conflict.1240302/page-5#post-142542831

The thing is... what can we do about it? what a Contrapoints video would actually do anyway?

The way people are angry seems that the solution for some is to.. what, make Israel disappear? What would you do with their people then?

What historically happened to the deeply sick societies of Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan? Why is the current Israeli society to be considered differently than those?

But nothing historically happened to those societies other than the governments were dismantled for democracies?  

I saw it today. I liked it pretty much. It was so nice to have a Superman who is unquestionably a good person. Ultimately, that's what turned me off Man of Steel and all the following movies. I mean, when he says incredulously against what was frankly Nuance Trolling from Lois, "But people were going to die?!" Like, of course he had to act to stop that.

Yeah, it's good to have a clear example of it in a blockbuster. Frustrating to watch the first time because I wanted to shout at Lois but hopefully it makes a few people realise the pattern of behaviour. Interesting to come from a journalist too. The film has quite a few subversive elements to it, unless I'm reading the intentions wrong.

But Clark is an unquestionably good person in Snyder's films. The one person he doesn't save is his father who's requesting not to be saved and it's when he was a child.

Clark and Lois have these same conversations in BvS:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Plus we have the scene at Luthor's thing where he's following Bruce but has to stop because he sees a disaster on the other side of the world happening on TV. The whole fight wouldn't have happened if he caught Bruce spying on Luthor because he would have known about Luthor then. (Ignore that Diana stole it already. )


He's pursuing the Bat because he's a dangerous lunatic who's become a threat to everyone, Clark isn't one of the two characters who knows Bruce's once good intentions have driven him mad. (He still tries to talk to Bruce multiple times and fights him self-defensively.) Not to mention that he literally sacrifices his own life at the end of it.