Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Venice]

I was 15 years old when Iwata passed away. I remember very vividly waking up to the news, running to my sister's door to awaken her to it as well. Like so many of my age bracket I was a very ardent believer in, and defender of, Satoru Iwata as president. Reading about Iwata's triumphs in computer programming made me interested in the field and led me to study computer science in university. I believe that this too was true of many people my age.

I was devastated by Iwata's death that summer, and it has stuck with me throughout the past decade as well. I suspect that I've sometimes made mention of Iwata while arguing about Nintendo online. I rue such cases, because I believe it to be disrespectful to the life of a person who was so clearly beloved by the people around him. I did not lose Satoru Iwata, while those few people did.

I've often found myself very upset about the timing of Iwata's death: he passed away following an E3 presentation that disappointed many people, including my 15-year-old self, and I've always had a sense that he died feeling apologetic. More recently though I've realized that this feeling too is disrespectful. I instead believe that he had faith and resolve in the direction of the then-forthcoming Nintendo Switch and such initiatives as the partnership with Universal Studios.

I hope that my thoughts resonate with some people and help them to sort through their own feelings today.

I was 15 years old when Benji passed away. I remember very vividly waking up to the news, running to Nintex's door to awaken her to it as well. Like so many of my age bracket I was a very ardent believer in, and defender of, Benji as president of TheBore. Reading about Benji's triumphs in doxxing made me interested in the field and led me to study doxxing in university. I believe that this too was true of many people my age.

I was devastated by Benji's death that summer, and it has stuck with me throughout the past decade as well. I suspect that I've sometimes made mention of Benji while arguing about ResetEra online. I rue such cases, because I believe it to be disrespectful to the life of a person who was so clearly beloved by the people around him. I did not lose Benji, while those few people did.

I've often found myself very upset about the timing of Benji's death: he passed away following a Nepenthe meltdown that disappointed many people, including my 15-year-old self, and I've always had a sense that he died feeling unapologetic. More recently though I've realized that this feeling too is disrespectful. 

I hope that my thoughts resonate with some people and help them to sort through their own feelings today.

[kaleidoscopium]

Every time I see the shilling Warhorse receives on this forum, it gives me chills. No, thanks, I don't need that gamergater guy working on Elder Scrolls.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bethesda-should-let-warhorse-studios-work-with-elder-scrolls.1241478/page-2#post-142560870
 
These kind of posts should be bannable, don't they know that Vavra made a WOKE LGBT game with Kingdom Come Deliverance II?

[Boredfrom]

t's amazing there's brain rot even worse than the Maga heads who were born in America

 what you mean by that, my dear? 

"He's doing the right thing because lots of these people don't deserve to be here"

The myth of meritocracy is the real mind virus

“The world was better when people didn’t even entertained the notion of class mobility”. 


https://www.resetera.com/threads/woman-detained-by-ice-would-still-vote-for-trump-husband-blames-biden.1241484/

[benji]

No one curr what you lot think about superman, give me Jeff marvels verdict

I think this is the only guy who understood WW's tweet instead of immediately raging at him being a chud like Jeff did:

[Boredfrom]

And you know that this is because they get fed a steady diet of propaganda by Fox News. I bet this woman has no clue what the US is actually like. She's been told she lives in a crime-infested hellhole full of gay trans pedophiles and illegal immigrants who are going to slit her throat in her sleep.

It's sickening and depressing to see just how successful the right's fearmongering propaganda continues to be. These people would take a bullet for Trump while he wipes his ass on their babies.

You guys don’t help in dissuading those notions, you know?

[Boredfrom]

That Zac dude is an obvious troll given his avatar.

[Daffy Duck]

These idiots are so fucking dense with regards the porn ban in the UK, there’s good reason for it imho, I’m no prude (and lol at them acting all prudish when they’re on Era, the kings of being prudes) but there’s hard evidence to show how the rampant access to porn is affecting kids these days with how they act, proper porn sites have age verification and it’s only right that social media sites (like Bluesky etc) should have such restrictions, if you’re upset about this because it’s where you get your degenerate porn (anime/shit melody posts) then fucking shame on you, kids shouldn’t be seeing this type of stuff and you’re a pervert for sharing it.

Yep, no way is this government not going to use this as an excuse to attack trans people and the LGBTQ+ as a whole. And you're right, this isn't protecting anyone, especially kids. If you actually want to protect kids then educate them with better sex education, better knowledge with how to use the internet safely, to not to be a bigoted piece of shit etc. This just means they'll move to less protected stuff.

It infuriates me because this is just Video Nasty level of nonsense.

And then you get known perverts like this posting this kind of shit, it really boils my piss. It’s fuck all to do with you and your perverted friends who’ve consumed too much porn and can’t get your rocks off, it’s to put a roadblock in the way of kids accessing extreme content they shouldn’t be viewing.

[benji]

I love how all of these half-wits have so thoroughly adopted "doesn't understand their own characters" for so long while never asking what it could possibly mean or how it's supposed to be a criticism.

[benji]

And you know that this is because they get fed a steady diet of propaganda by Fox News. I bet this woman has no clue what the US is actually like. She's been told she lives in a crime-infested hellhole full of gay trans pedophiles and illegal immigrants who are going to slit her throat in her sleep.

It's sickening and depressing to see just how successful the right's fearmongering propaganda continues to be. These people would take a bullet for Trump while he wipes his ass on their babies.

You guys don’t help in dissuading those notions, you know?

This is what they tell themselves to soothe their lack of control over what other people believe. People can't be complex creatures, they must be simple automatons programmed by the villains. Then they can tell themselves: "if only we had control over their programming everything would be fine." The answer is always the same, we "good guys" need more control over everyone.

[Snoopy]

We’re never going to get those Twitch streams are we

[simiansmarts]

That Zac dude is an obvious troll given his avatar.

ZeoVagina doesn't fucking care, he NEEDS to engage on twitter. Defending the honor of his preferred capeshit keeps him going. Without it, he has nothing.

[Boredfrom]

I don’t think the film is particularly Pro Immigration. The notion is more like Superman is more human than alien and I think Gunn wants to distance this version of Superman from the depiction of his parents as all wise heavenly figures from past films.

Luthor hate for meta humans in general is not based on irrational ideas on race, merits or even class, is just simple envy. That Luthor acts like a combination of Trump/Musk is just a byproduct of them acting like cartoonish assholes IRL.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I too enjoy getting all my political opinions from superhero movies and 2 hour long youtube videos.

[benji]

Luthor hates Superman because Superman threatens Luthor's self-conception of himself. Luthor envisions himself as the ur-human and thus rightful ruler of the world. Superman, any meta-humans but especially the one in his city, undermine Luthor being the Apex. Lex's hate of "aliens" is almost always depicted as self-serving, the way he gets other people to distrust, Lex himself never has had any problems allying with aliens who help him with his goals.

Luthor being Musk or Trump doesn't make any sense because neither Musk nor Trump have these views. Musk isn't anti-immigrant, he's an immigrant. His natural inclinations are against state power he's just not smart or curious enough to understand why his alignment with Trump wasn't serving this goal. Trump's a narcissist, power isn't really something he cares about except how it fulfills his conception of himself as the greatest at everything. Neither Luthor nor Musk are the same because both are legitimately smart (or at least once were) and capable of actual achievements. Trump is obsessed with popularity, Luthor has this but only as it serves his personal interests, Trump will toss his beliefs overboard to become more popular with the population he's seeking approval of. Luthor wouldn't do this, Musk clearly has limits about this.

Superman is always depicted as more human than alien because he's never been raised as an alien. As he says at the end of Man of Steel: "I'm from Kansas, General." His mentality is that of a human raised in small town farm country. That's the entire point. That's the whole "American Way" part of his slogan. Clark earnestly believes that fiction and it's what causes him to be a good person and ultimately trustworthy with his power.

As you said a few pages back, they never understand the obvious about the media they're consooming and dedicating their ideological views to.

[Boredfrom]

Another example of why may not take the pro immigrant reading at face value:

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Krypto is actually Supergirl’s dog. She is a hard party girl that doesn’t bother to train his dangerous dog and forces Superman in dealing with the dog actions while she fucks off and gets drunk. Superman at one point mentions he cannot leave Krypto in the Kent’s Farm because he is afraid he will kill his parents’ cows.

Immigrant pitbull owners, anyone?

[Lonewulfeus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-know-that-dolphins-be-beefing-with-everything-in-the-ocean.1241706/#post-142566777

I had an argument with an 8 year old about how dolphins are assholes. He got so heated because he really likes dolphins.

We’ll never find a more quintessentially resetera post than this 

[benji]

If there's any real message about these topics in the Superman lore, it's the one that Era fervent rejects in all other instances. That most Americans and nearly all immigrants believe the same thing about America that Clark does.

[Boredfrom]

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Luthor hates Superman because Superman threatens Luthor's self-conception of himself. Luthor envisions himself as the ur-human and thus rightful ruler of the world. Superman, any meta-humans but especially the one in his city, undermine Luthor being the Apex. Lex's hate of "aliens" is almost always depicted as self-serving, the way he gets other people to distrust, Lex himself never has had any problems allying with aliens who help him with his goals.

Luthor being Musk or Trump doesn't make any sense because neither Musk nor Trump have these views. Musk isn't anti-immigrant, he's an immigrant. His natural inclinations are against state power he's just not smart or curious enough to understand why his alignment with Trump wasn't serving this goal. Trump's a narcissist, power isn't really something he cares about except how it fulfills his conception of himself as the greatest at everything. Neither Luthor nor Musk are the same because both are legitimately smart (or at least once were) and capable of actual achievements. Trump is obsessed with popularity, Luthor has this but only as it serves his personal interests, Trump will toss his beliefs overboard to become more popular with the population he's seeking approval of. Luthor wouldn't do this, Musk clearly has limits about this.

Superman is always depicted as more human than alien because he's never been raised as an alien. As he says at the end of Man of Steel: "I'm from Kansas, General." His mentality is that of a human raised in small town farm country. That's the entire point. That's the whole "American Way" part of his slogan. Clark earnestly believes that fiction and it's what causes him to be a good person and ultimately trustworthy with his power.

As you said a few pages back, they never understand the obvious about the media they're consooming and dedicating their ideological views to.

Is this the first time that Luthor cronies act almost cult like? I think that’s the only real thing that Gunn could have copied from Trump/Musk.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-xbox-layoffs-rumored-to-be-1000-2000-employees-10-20-of-total-xbox-workforce-potential-studio-closures.1228632/page-14#post-142011120

 User Banned (1 Month): Antagonizing Fellow Member; History of the Same

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It won't surprise you when you learn who made this image.

[simiansmarts]

Musk will do his white nationalist LARP on twitter but he still wants his army of H1B indians working for him at the end of the day. 
 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dring-i-asked-for-clarification-on-the-gp-is-profitable-claim-and-was-told-no-first-party-costs-are-included-update-see-threadmark-for-follow-up.1237410/page-13#post-142414641

 User banned (1 month): dismissing concerns of sexism

OK well, I don't go on Tiktok, but women making a self-deprecating sexist joke is one thing. But I don't think male posters should reuse that to refer to actual dumb math...

Nah, we should call out sexist behavior but this ain't it..

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/founder-of-arkane-studios-i-think-gamepass-is-an-unsustainable-model-that-has-been-increasingly-damaging-the-industry-for-a-decade-impacts-sales.1236546/page-13#post-142354521

 User Banned (5 days): Hostility & inflammatory accusations against another member

I'm more than happy to keep saving money using GP especially when the greedy fucks at Nintendo, Sony, and MS keep increasing game prices.

You'll save money using Microsoft, because Microsoft is so expensive?

Just say you're happy for kids to get murdered in the middle east.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hideki-kamiya-discusses-his-feelings-on-the-hellena-taylor-dispute.1238052/page-3#post-142438563

 User banned (2 Weeks): Victim Blaming

This is comedy dude. It aint his fault you take it seriously.

Its been a bit for years.

His insults are either fairly comedic in tone ("insects") if you read his feed for two seconds, or quite clearly directed at people who are rude to him.

funny it is only a 'joke' or done with 'moral high ground' when it is someone you are predisposed to defend because 'he made that game i like'.

if it was someone with a different resume theres no question you would be trying to burn them at the stake for literally the same shit.

insults are insults are insults, you reap what you sow.

[benji]

Is this the first time that Luthor cronies act almost cult like? I think that’s the only real thing that Gunn could have copied from Trump/Musk.

LexCorp has generally operated like that. And it's not just because Luthor tends to kill people instead of firing them, they're usually depicted as believing that Luthor truly is great.

The immediate post-Crisis change of Luthor from mad scientist to business titan genius really changed the character forever. Anybody seeing Trump parallels to Trump now doesn't really get it. This was published in 1989:

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Lex_Luthor:_The_Unauthorized_Biography_Vol_1_1

President Luthor was in 2000. They're connecting the dots backwards. (Also, Trump's an idiot. Luthor's megalomania is arguably justified.)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-thought-i-had-possibly-grown-out-of-liking-3d-platformers-but-after-trying-mario-odyssey-it-turns-out-i-just-dont-like-astro-bot.1238844/page-2#post-142458600

 User Banned (2 Weeks): Inflammatory and hostile comments toward another user, thread whining/not engaging with the thread, past infractions for inflammatory behavior

This feels like AI generated slop and whats with the randomly capitalized words?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zohran-mamdani-wins-the-democratic-primary-for-mayor-of-new-york-city.1227627/page-34#post-142140780

 User banned (2 months): antisemetic rhetoric, prior ban for the exact same behavior

The Zionist puppets repeat the false anti Semitism claims against zohran almost like robots programmed to just repeat it, and when pushed for evidence they malfunction.

He must be on some mod's list.

[Boredfrom]

LexCorp has generally operated like that. And it's not just because Luthor tends to kill people instead of firing them, they're usually depicted as believing that Luthor truly is great.

I imagined this could be the case.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Musk will do his white nationalist LARP on twitter but he still wants his army of H1B indians working for him at the end of the day. 
 

@grok add an Israel flag in the background of this post

[FEUER FREI.]

Official Staff Communication by AliceAmber in Constructive 

This entire situation has largely exemplified a lack of compromise, on both ends. The fact is: staff have a right on this forum to make a decision- even an unpopular one- and stick to it if we've come to an internal consensus about an ongoing situation. However, this does not mean that you are required to like every decision we make. In fact, it's inevitable that you will not like every decision! That's okay.

What's not okay is some of the behavior that inevitably results from these cycles of ban litigation, namely the insults, the bad-faith conspiracism leveled towards decisions whether or not they're related to the issue at hand, and the targeting and calling for staff members to be removed. Much of this was unacceptable and the source for the long gaps in communication. Staff are never going to feel inclined to work with anyone when outrage precedes meaningful feedback no matter how much members in turn ask for engagement. This must be a relationship: we will be happy to work with you, but it cannot and will not be on terms we consider hostile. This is a give-and-take.

This is why, instead of shutting out all feedback, we have instead produced outlets to express disagreement and give feedback over the years, not just the CCD thread but also the ticket system and past meetings. These have been attempts to bridge communication gaps and receive feedback in a timely manner but without the stress that results from these large-scale outbreaks of dissatisfaction and outrage, which is why they are prohibited. The fact of the matter is, ResetEra is not what it was when it first started. Many of the systems in place and even the harsher way we dish out bans is literally in direct response to member feedback, and that must be acknowledged as true if this situation is to resolve amicably and we are to move forward together. It is demonstrably false that we never apologize, never take into consideration feedback, or never lift bans. If this cannot be accepted, we cannot move forward.

The ticket system, ultimately, was the compromise here and it was a collective community failure to not utilize this system. If you personally received an infraction from the DK thread or even want to advocate on behalf of those who received such an infraction (this has not always been the case in the past, and we're adjusting this) and wish to appeal, please feel free to send a ticket . We are happy and willing to revisit it, as we've already done so with some of the bans having been lifted already. To be very honest with you all, we've received shockingly few tickets about this ordeal. We are not afraid to admit that this DK situation had instances where it was over-moderated and we have been adjusting, but no bans were handed out looking for an excuse to ban someone. That's not how we operate. Also, approach this with the understanding that not every ticket we receive may be given a response that fully concedes to the sender, and it is unlikely that every ban will be lifted.

Furthermore, if you think a staff member is directly targeting you, we highly implore you to send in a ticket. These will be looked at by the team as a whole- from the initial interaction between the staff and member, to any and all reports related to the situation, to who handled any particular infraction- in order to determine if it would be reasonable to believe that retaliation was in play. This investigation will be done regardless of the authority of the staff member in question. We will also have a conversation about overhauling and refining the ticket system as a whole, both for members' sake and staff's.

Moving forward, here is what will happen in the case of an issue where staff make a warning or ban wave that is contentious to the community:

1.) We will absolutely be looking for reports and tickets, as this is what we expect from members. Any issue with a staff decision should be handled through the proper channels. In the case of a massive negative response such as this, it will be imperative on us to send a personalized response that properly addresses the issue, whether that be to individual reports and tickets or with a staff post within the relevant thread as a whole. This is what you expect from us. It will be imperative on all of us to uphold our ends of the deal.

2.) Ban brigading (whereby multiple members, whether or not they were directly involved in an issue, descend upon the CCD to advocate for wholesale lifts) will remain prohibited from this thread and result in threadbans.

3.) Calls for staff to be removed, whether or not those calls are general or specific, will automatically result in a permanent threadban.

When will they ever wake up to the fact that they cultivated this toxicity? Appeasing ban begging, banning political opinions that don't meet the forum's narrative, defending Nepenthe as the #1 person who derails threads and provokes members, and gets away with it while banning other users that engaged them, listening to these pissbabies how bans should be harsher that doesn't fit with their clique, list can go on and on.

[StandingOvation]

"No, it's the community who are wrong." ad nauseum.