Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[benji]

Holy shit. I just watched an episode of Community last night that had him in it. RIP

Holy shit. Was just chatting with a couple buds about Jeremiah a few days ago.

I just saw him in Detroiters the other week.

This is fucking me up. As someone posted above with him in Community, he's been around still acting/popping up in fun roles/interviews.

I was watching Detroiters a few weeks ago and he popped up in that. Man…

Damn. I saw him in various minor roles over the last decade like on Major Crimes.

He was always great in everything he was in - was rewatching Fresh Prince recently and had forgotten about his cameo as Hilary's boyfriend.

Damn. Noticed he was in Sneaky Pete on Netflix

stay safe

[Besticus Maximus]

I've been unironically lurking famiboards quite a bit recently, on account of of new nintendos. It's a much, much better forum than Resetera even if it is also ran by rooting tooting lunatics too.

[Jansen]

Holy shit. I just watched an episode of Community last night that had him in it. RIP

Holy shit. Was just chatting with a couple buds about Jeremiah a few days ago.

I just saw him in Detroiters the other week.

This is fucking me up. As someone posted above with him in Community, he's been around still acting/popping up in fun roles/interviews.

I was watching Detroiters a few weeks ago and he popped up in that. Man…

Damn. I saw him in various minor roles over the last decade like on Major Crimes.

He was always great in everything he was in - was rewatching Fresh Prince recently and had forgotten about his cameo as Hilary's boyfriend.

Damn. Noticed he was in Sneaky Pete on Netflix

stay safe

[Taco Bell Tower]

Let's see, everyone in here knows full well what the in story context for the nickname is, but they acknowledge the double meaning without anyone being confused.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dankruto/comments/hvm8i4/unapologetically_pervy/

Acknowledgement of how wild the nickname sounds out of context (13 years ago).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/12408w/hope_you_all_took_this_out_of_context_like_i_did/

Urban Dictionary

Urban Dictionary: Sucker
Sucker: That dude believes [everything] he hears and says but has no clue about what is [actually] [happening].
sucker.urbanup.com sucker.urbanup.com

A person that has been tricked into something.
A gullible person.

Also Urban Dictionary acknowledging the sexual connotation on the same page.

Urban Dictionary: Sucker
Sucker: That dude believes [everything] he hears and says but has no clue about what is [actually] [happening].
sucker.urbanup.com sucker.urbanup.com

A person who loves to suck on a penis because that's whats up. (13 year old post, didn't even make it about gender)


But I'm a trolling liar that makes shit up and I need to admit that I'm wrong.

OP made a retarded post, comes back after the weekend to continue bitching about it. Still developing  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-much-flak-as-people-give-english-dubs-they-really-didnt-have-to-be-so-literal-with-some-translations-tsunades-nickname-in-naruto.1248261/page-5#post-142908980

He’s all over constructive defending his honor

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

I get that most of us don't know each other, and we're reading each other through text and maybe aren't going to always pick up what someone is saying the way they're saying it, misunderstandings happen that way, but I don't care for the way it gets a pass when the misreadings feel a bit more deliberate.

I don't like when I say something, and then people then feel the need to tell me what I'm actually saying and then argue against that adjacent or entirely new point.

I say X, they tell you you said Y and then call you an asshole for saying Y. And it feels like I'm taking crazy pills because the post where you said X is blatantly visible and just being ignored. And you can quote yourself saying X to those people and some just disappear from the conversation. And then I'm sitting there like, why did this person I never interacted with before say I said all these things. Which then ties into the whole Discord of it all in which some names are clearly on a list.

Or sometimes it can be a misunderstanding that you can clarify, but then people just double down so aggressively and it never gets through.

But then you have the people who know exactly what they're doing. I'm now gonna call you angry or a troll or insinuate a grudge against something I like. And you can point out that none of that's true, but they can just choose to ignore all that and continue their gotcha.

That's beyond arguing in bad faith, but there has to be a phrase for it.

And this also stems into why I don't take people's words for things. Someone describes something or someone one way, I look it up for myself instead of parroting what they said, and I see they're sometimes off base. Contextualizing my posts for the Skill Up discussion.

I feel like there's this category of "Era tactics" of how to win an argument we don't really acknowledge. But the thing is, I'm not trying to win anything, but will get dogpiled twice by people who think I am. The point was made, agree with it, or don't. I can follow up on some things but once it gets dragged to such a nasty place where we're just insulting people, it's like, what's the point.

Can't keep up with everything flung at me, just saying my peace.

It's like I don't get to be who I am, Era tells me who and what I am. Criticize A, you're an A hater. Praise B, you're now a B lover which means you hate all the other letter as well. But then when you ask "when did I hate all the other letters, A included?" that gets ignored and people double down on the B thing. And it's not like it's subtle. People do this openly to each other.

So either you're trolling or you're a sexist sick person who thinks that calling a person "sucker" especially at a woman at that - is a whore/oral sexual person.

This is in response to me critiquing localization dialogue. We went from "those writers could've phrased that differently" to that. And then I get blamed for the escalation.

I get when it's 1 vs 100, it's easier to go well obviously you're the problem, but if given the opportunity to break it down post by post, I guarantee my side of it holds up. But then why would anyone want to take the time for that, understandably.

I can literally quote myself trying to come to an understanding with you despite you repeatedly calling me a troll. And then all it takes is for me to lose it once and then it's like "we got em boys", at least that part we can call baiting.

But isn't the general rule, don't be assholes.

If it's any consolation I agree that there's been some bullshit mudslinging aimed at you Derbel. I disagree with your thread premise, but only in a friendly banter way. I'd say try to not let it bother you, but people seem to go at you quite frequently like this, so I can only imagine how frustrating it can be.

Edit - oh I thought i was responding to a post in that very thread, got my notifications mixed up.

you went straight to calling people obtuse because they don’t agree with your premise

Sorry, you went immediately on the defensive, come across aggressive even if you don't mean to and within 3 posts, everyone else was obtuse. I can't get on board with this.

except i specifically went out my way to track down the episode and scene in japanese and had my partner translate/explain if "duck" has alternate meanings in japanese and it turns out, it means someone gullible, someone who can be taken advantage of, a sucker. i added it to the thread and there was quite a few posts in there trying to having a conversation about the translation but the OP never interacted with any of it except having a fit.

My first thought reading this, oh maybe I was rude initially in a way that I missed. Then I read it for myself, a bunch of people assume I don't know what a word means, I clarify for them. They do it again, I clarify again that this isn't necessary. And my response to it still going was ...

"I feel like we're being obtuse here". You see how that's not like the way you described it. You make it sound like I insulted everyone right out of the gate.

It's all in the framing isn't it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.


Sorry, I didn't respond to the 20+ notifications I got at once. It was sort of a lot.

it's exactly how i described it. i don't agree it's a purposeful double entendres and i'm not being obtuse about it. it’s rude.

i won't be responding about this here any more, this thread has bigger issues

Appreciated. If a thread disagrees with me it's fine, but it's like I distinguish between people disagreeing and then people straight up insulting me for thinking my way.

My problem is when it's clearly the latter and people try to frame it as the former.

"Wow look at this idiot that doesn't understand this kid's series."
"Oh he's mad that we disagree with him."
"No, it's the insults. Its always the insults."

And that's just referring back to a Ratchet and Clank thread I made about a cover system.


That is literally not true. I even explained what the disconnect was. The thread is right there for everyone to see so why lie?

But no need to drag it out. I made my point. My posts stand for themselves. I'm just saying read the whole thing to see how we got there, don't just cherrypick.

I tend to try and read people extremely generously, but when I read that thread, it really comes across as someone posting a thread and getting needlessly aggressive when people disagree.

Also, as a woman, I do not in any way agree with your premise and have never heard the term "sucker" used in a sexual context unless its preceded by a naughty word.

Seems like you quite often attribute people interpreting things differently to you as being deliberately untruthful.

Someone said you insulted people by calling them "obtuse", you respond saying you didn't do that and quote yourself, they say the quote you provided is insulting, you call them a liar.

I don't track your posts, but I feel like I've read at least one or two other lengthy posts ITT from you more or less on this topic and I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve with them. It's likely true you do get unfairly dogpiled at times, but it's also likely true you are sometimes comporting yourself in a way that others are finding abrasive, then when that's called out you respond poorly and claim they are misrepresnting you by telling you how you're making them feeli.

That you didn't intend to insult someone doesn't mean that you didn't, and doesn't make someone saying you insulted them a liar. You put a lot of this down to malice, that people are deliberately misrepresnting you and it seems paranoid to me.

In general, as someone above said, if you find posts where you think someone has crossed a line or broken a rule report them.

Have you ever thought that these things (where "the people double down on you in bad faith") happen to you so much it might not be because of "the people"?

Explain to me how

"I feel like we're being obtuse here". is an insult.

Explain to me how

"I feel like we're being obtuse here".

said in response to multiple people telling you what a word means even though you clarified multiple times you know what the word means and are now ignoring you to repeat the same thing.

That's what happened.

Their description is that I just came out insulting people for disagreeing with me.

You see how that paints two different pictures right? Ones a passive response. The other is just aggressive and petty.

So when I quote what happened more specifically and you still stick with that second painting, yeah, it kind of feels like lying.



If I say blue and 100 people tell me I said red, if I remember blue and can clearly see my post that says blue, and am literally going "hey look at where I said blue" and people still claim I said red, I'm betting on myself.



Your experience is your experience, but the responses made it seem like I just misunderstood a word and made up a definition. If I can cite comment sections or threads in other places making the same observation or just the joke "woah, that sounds wild out of context", does that not prove my point, which is just an acknowledgement of awkward phrasing. That's all.

I even cited another cartoon that regularly uses the word "sucker", and noted the difference.

The framing of the scene itself and the word legendary just gave it a different connotation to me. That's all.

A handful of people in the thread even acknowledged this, so I'm wondering why I'm being told that I'm making shit up. And how I NEED to admit that I'm wrong or I'm trolling, to what purpose.

No one considered it just to just be slang they're not aware, it just went straight to me making shit up.

Since looking into it, I can now cite those Reddit threads and YouTube comment sections and sucker by itself even has that definition mentioned buried in urban dictionary. But I'm the lying troll that  needs to admit that he's wrong (you didn't say this, I'm quoting the thread).

And saying any of this doesn't matter because it'll get ignored and someone will just repeat something someone else already said that I disproved.

Zero introspection.

Calling people "obtuse", generally meaning stupid or slow, a few posts into your thread could very well be considered insulting. Saying "we're being obtuse" doesn't do much to offset that.

So people saying you insulted people, or that they felt insulted, aren't lying. Your insistence that they are speaks to why you seem to keep coming up against these issues.

I would seriously consider why you keep finding similar situations like this, and what your part in it might be.

Sigh ...

"I feel like we're being obtuse here".

Being obtuse.

Choosing to misunderstand what I'm saying.

But yes, ZERO introspection. I can't tell you why you just put me in that situation.

So you say "obtuse" and mean "deliberatly not understanding", while others are reading it to mean "stupid" or "slow" both of which are understood definitions of the word.

But you call the people who say they found it insulting liars. Not that it could be a different interpretaton of something.

"Sorry, I didn't mean to insult anyone, I meant X"
or
"These people saying I insulted them are lying and deliberately misrepresenting me"

Seriously, worth taking a minute to consider why you feel this keeps happening to you.

Sources cited and shared and watch it change nothing because my words don't matter, only what you say I said and we gotta keep the joke going, right?

But they're not choosing to "misunderstand". They understand exactly what you're saying but fundamentally disagree with the statement. Implying they're choosing to misrepresent you is insulting.

Like you're quoting urban dictionary now to prove your point, and its not even the top definition.

Because there are MULTIPLE DEFINITIONS!!!

They chose to ignore my post saying I know what the word means by telling me the definition over and over. That's not disagreeing, that's ignoring.

Just because there are multiple doesn't mean they're all used regularly, and Urban Dictionary doesn't show where the definitions origin is, also anyone can add any definition to a word/phrase they want to there, there's very little regulation outside of voting thumbs up or thumbs down on what means what. Everything on sucker has 0 votes either way because it's universally known as someone who is gullible(A sucker born every minute), and less so as someone who has a weakness for something(I'm a sucker for word etymology). As for the definition you're using as the basis for the thread, yeah I can see how that could be a term used for that, but I've literally never heard it used in that way that in my nearly 40 years here.

A more reputable source than Urban Dictionary, Miriam Webster does not list anything related to your thread premise for sucker as a definition, maybe suckling if you're looking at it generously, but even then it's not a common use. I can't even quickly find examples of it on the internet being used in that way.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sucker

You're latching on to a definition you found on Urban Dictionary, or that in your circle of friends/area you live in it is used as a phrase but it ultimately isn't common outside of that.

The initial implication was that I made up the connotation. Urban Dictionary is the OTHER source (we're not acknowledging the reddit thread for some reason). And I'm using it to back what I already know, I'm not getting the definition from them.

Who goes to Miriam Webster for slang? Honestly. Maybe don't try to be an expert on this one. Hey, Mariam Webster, what does "throat GOAT" mean? Weird, I'm not getting any suitable results from the "more reputable source", it's like I should use a site specifically made for slang on this subject.

So apparently, it's just me and my friends in New York, then my Florida friends in one city, and then my Florida friends in another city, a handful of Era members and then randoms online from over a decade ago who are all in on this. Just this select few of us.

It seems like you misunderstood a word because you have, because sucker is not used as a euphemism for blow jobs. At least not widely in the United States.

You seem hostile because you continue to aggressively defend this position at anyone who disagrees or says you are wrong, to the point of saying you've disproved their stance or claiming people are lying or being obtuse. And you frame your defense in a patronizing way as you are the smartest person in the thread.

You don't need to admit you are wrong. I think you need to take a breath and remember that not everyone has it out for you even if they disagree with you.

You don't need to cite comment sections elsewhere because you feel like the work sucker in this context is sexual. Sometimes its best to just have the thread closed or stop posting.

Edit: Telling people who disagree with you "Maybe don't try to be an expert on this one" is EXTREMELY insulting and patronizing.

User warned: cross-thread drama

I am what you say I am, since I clearly don't get a say. Silly of me to point it out and expect people to stop doing it because obviously it's working.

People tell me I made up a definition, sure, I have absolutely no reason to cite it being used in different places.

I think I'm the smartest person here, I don't know what that's based on, sure, let's say I think that.

I'm not feeling kind to be insulting me, sure, I'm hostile.

I did not in fact state the difference between people disagreeing with me and those insulting me, I'm aggressive towards everyone. You did not literally quote me directly talking to someone who disagreed with me respectfully.

People are not doing the exact things I described in my initial post.

I'm begging you not to have some introspection because I find your threads very entertaining as a result

[Potato]

I've been unironically lurking famiboards quite a bit recently, on account of of new nintendos. It's a much, much better forum than Resetera even if it is also ran by rooting tooting lunatics too.

Slightly less mental is still mental though.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Ted The Terrible Swimmer writes -

As someone who barely survived drowning as a kid, it's not something I would ever wish on anyone else.

RIP, Malcolm. A real fucking shame.

ME ME ME ME ME ME


https://www.resetera.com/threads/malcolm-jamal-warner-cosby-show-alum-dead-at-54.1248981/#post-142918182

He has the worst luck, stabbed in class by defending a Asian classmate as a kid, nearly got decapitated and now nearly drowned.  What hasn't tried to kill him yet?

[Jansen]

Nobody seen this dude since community why do they act like they care

[benji]

Nobody seen this dude since community why do they act like they care

When I looked, a bunch of them were posting that The Cosby Show was a formative event of their life.

[Jansen]

[Propagandhim]

Ted The Terrible Swimmer writes -

As someone who barely survived drowning as a kid, it's not something I would ever wish on anyone else.

RIP, Malcolm. A real fucking shame.

ME ME ME ME ME ME


https://www.resetera.com/threads/malcolm-jamal-warner-cosby-show-alum-dead-at-54.1248981/#post-142918182

how bout a little Malcolm Jamal Warning ahead of time then instead of waiting after the man died.  sheesh

[TylenolJones]

Lore drop

every time I've ever been banned from Era it's because of Ambien, so it's not my fault and out of my hands

https://www.resetera.com/threads/channel-5-interviews-hunter-biden-3-hour-video.1249071/#post-142924371

[Cheststrongwell]

Not even two weeks ago, I sat in the same room that my parents watched Fools Gold in the night before. Sometimes tragedies hit very close to home. Devastated.

[BIONIC]

Lore drop

every time I've ever been banned from Era it's because of Ambien, so it's not my fault and out of my hands

https://www.resetera.com/threads/channel-5-interviews-hunter-biden-3-hour-video.1249071/#post-142924371

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-you-unknowingly-dating-an-ai-chatbot-not-about-catfishing-digital-only-dating.1247598/page-2#post-142849638

I sucked off two ai chatbots the other day

What was the finish like? 0s and 1 lol

they generated what they assumed I would swallow

[Disco55]

Not even two weeks ago, I sat in the same room that my parents watched Fools Gold in the night before. Sometimes tragedies hit very close to home. Devastated.

Fools Gold wasn't that bad of a movie :p

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-making-money-in-video-games-is-easier-than-in-real-life.1249218/

[killamajig]

Ted The Terrible Swimmer writes -

As someone who barely survived drowning as a kid, it's not something I would ever wish on anyone else.

RIP, Malcolm. A real fucking shame.

ME ME ME ME ME ME


https://www.resetera.com/threads/malcolm-jamal-warner-cosby-show-alum-dead-at-54.1248981/#post-142918182

Holy shit, I just realized there's a glass of water next to me!!! Am I gonna drown too? Literally shaking rn.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/you-are-granted-the-power-to-record-one-min-of-video-from-anywhere-or-anytime-in-the-past.1243539/page-2#post-142685733

 User Banned (1 Month): Misogynistic rhetoric

I have this one ex that I always regretted not having nude pics from.

[Jansen]

Ted The Terrible Swimmer writes -

As someone who barely survived drowning as a kid, it's not something I would ever wish on anyone else.

RIP, Malcolm. A real fucking shame.

ME ME ME ME ME ME


https://www.resetera.com/threads/malcolm-jamal-warner-cosby-show-alum-dead-at-54.1248981/#post-142918182

Holy shit, I just realized there's a glass of water next to me!!! Am I gonna drown too? Literally shaking rn.

You joke but that's how David Dunn died

[simiansmarts]

I've been unironically lurking famiboards quite a bit recently, on account of of new nintendos. It's a much, much better forum than Resetera even if it is also ran by rooting tooting lunatics too.

The userbase of famiboards is better than RE (no notable characters like EchoesofRetard as far as I’m aware) but the mods are even more deranged with their policing. You get a warning simply saying “hey guys” because it’s not a gender neutral term/it hurts the feelings of the transbian mods.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Ted The Terrible Swimmer writes -

As someone who barely survived drowning as a kid, it's not something I would ever wish on anyone else.

RIP, Malcolm. A real fucking shame.

ME ME ME ME ME ME


https://www.resetera.com/threads/malcolm-jamal-warner-cosby-show-alum-dead-at-54.1248981/#post-142918182

He really knows to make everything about himself

We are just going to have to accept that he has done and been everything. He has a connection to every human being who has ever lived (and will ever live), and is going to have an anecdote for any and every conceivable thing. 

He goes by "PlanetSmasher" because "TheBigBang" would be too on the nose. At the end of everything, we will all return to PlanetSmasher.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Ted The Terrible Swimmer writes -

As someone who barely survived drowning as a kid, it's not something I would ever wish on anyone else.

RIP, Malcolm. A real fucking shame.

ME ME ME ME ME ME


https://www.resetera.com/threads/malcolm-jamal-warner-cosby-show-alum-dead-at-54.1248981/#post-142918182

He has the worst luck, stabbed in class by defending a Asian classmate as a kid, nearly got decapitated and now nearly drowned.  What hasn't tried to kill him yet?

But has he ever been a part of teacher-sanctioned gladiatorial combat?

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Holy shit. I just watched an episode of Community last night that had him in it. RIP

Holy shit. Was just chatting with a couple buds about Jeremiah a few days ago.

I just saw him in Detroiters the other week.

This is fucking me up. As someone posted above with him in Community, he's been around still acting/popping up in fun roles/interviews.

I was watching Detroiters a few weeks ago and he popped up in that. Man…

Damn. I saw him in various minor roles over the last decade like on Major Crimes.

He was always great in everything he was in - was rewatching Fresh Prince recently and had forgotten about his cameo as Hilary's boyfriend.

Damn. Noticed he was in Sneaky Pete on Netflix

stay safe

We all exist on the same planet as people who have died. 

Hold me, my Bire Brethren.

[BIONIC]

I've been unironically lurking famiboards quite a bit recently, on account of of new nintendos. It's a much, much better forum than Resetera even if it is also ran by rooting tooting lunatics too.

The userbase of famiboards is better than RE (no notable characters like EchoesofRetard as far as I’m aware) but the mods are even more deranged with their policing. You get a warning simply saying “hey guys” because it’s not a gender neutral term/it hurts the feelings of the transbian mods.

They apparently temporarily close nintendo direct threads whenever Hogwarts Legacy is being shown so the plebs wouldn’t discuss it

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

lack of y'alls and cums in the last few pages. 

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I've been unironically lurking famiboards quite a bit recently, on account of of new nintendos. It's a much, much better forum than Resetera even if it is also ran by rooting tooting lunatics too.

The userbase of famiboards is better than RE (no notable characters like EchoesofRetard as far as I’m aware) but the mods are even more deranged with their policing. You get a warning simply saying “hey guys” because it’s not a gender neutral term/it hurts the feelings of the transbian mods.

For failing to censor "g*ys" and triggering multiple bouts of PTSD, you have been permanently banned. - BillyKong, NintyBottom, GayLink, RetardoAutismo, benji

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I wish we had famiboard ban messages but instead of bans its super likes.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

lack of y'alls

I don't think we have any white-adjacent pharmacy workers desperate for black cred posting on the bire. 

and cums

After reading those Derbel posts I'm all out of sippin' cream. 

[kaleidoscopium]

I've been unironically lurking famiboards quite a bit recently, on account of of new nintendos. It's a much, much better forum than Resetera even if it is also ran by rooting tooting lunatics too.

The userbase of famiboards is better than RE (no notable characters like EchoesofRetard as far as I’m aware) but the mods are even more deranged with their policing. You get a warning simply saying “hey guys” because it’s not a gender neutral term/it hurts the feelings of the transbian mods.

They apparently temporarily close nintendo direct threads whenever Hogwarts Legacy is being shown so the plebs wouldn’t discuss it

I was banned for saying I thought it was one of the more impressive switch ports… lol

[Taco Bell Tower]

I've been unironically lurking famiboards quite a bit recently, on account of of new nintendos. It's a much, much better forum than Resetera even if it is also ran by rooting tooting lunatics too.

The userbase of famiboards is better than RE (no notable characters like EchoesofRetard as far as I’m aware) but the mods are even more deranged with their policing. You get a warning simply saying “hey guys” because it’s not a gender neutral term/it hurts the feelings of the transbian mods.

I think that's the forum that at least have the balls to list the mods who decided on banning people 

[HaughtyFrank]

I guess with famiboards people are aware that they sign up for insanity so there's less friction