Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[DavidCroquet]

This site having people argue for payment processor censorship really shows you guys have zero opinion of anything except "the opposite of what resetera" says 

[Snoopy]

Wasn't Sinners about heroic Irish farmers trying to stop black criminals bringing drugs and prostitution into their barn?

[Boredfrom]

While I disagree with them, Potato and the others have been consistent about not liking smut and not minding getting unlisted.  

If anything, that suddenly ERA cares about it and forgetting they have banned games for less…

[HardcoreRetro]

I hate censorship but you can't expect me not to laugh when seeing game titles like Sodomy: Raging Assfuck Part V.

It's probably still less disgusting than Last of Us Part II. Why not ban that shit instead.

[Straight Edge]

Someone shop Sydney Sweeney's face on this:

If you're gonna bite my joke, at least "like" my original post

[Snoopy]

It’s worse when someone posts your joke on resetera. The last time it happened I nearly called the ree out but he wasn’t a prominent so it wasn’t worth wasting the opportunity.

[clockwork5]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-that-would-be-a-lot-more-controversial-if-it-were-made-today.1259973/

The Birth of a Nation

To be fair, it was controversial at the time it was made as well.

Yea but it would be A LOT more nowadays since it will be a dog whistle

Idiots quickly stripping dog whistle of all meaning as the film about the heroic KKK saving good white people from the dastardly black folks would apparently be trying to fly under the radar.

I’m surprised nobody over there has mentioned Schindlers List or The Diary of Anne Frank.

[Boredfrom]

He's really just trying to gaslight everyone and I think that is going to start clashing with reality in a way that he is just absolutely not going to be able to get away with.

He will get away with whatever he wants

Insane doomers are probably his best allies outside his sycophants.  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-orders-firing-of-labor-statistics-commissioner-after-abysmal-jobs-report.1260054/page-6#post-143408718

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/american-eagle-sparks-backlash-for-touting-sydney-sweeneys-great-jeans.1255467/page-16#post-143386287

I mean it's an A list actress fronting a campaign that is promoting white supremacist eugenics rhetoric that the white house and all of the right wing are latching onto to help not only push their agenda but also as ammo against the left by using plausible deniability to accuse us of being insane for pointing out it's true intentions.

Just look at this thread, a lot of people who believe they are on the left are also downplaying it's message and impact.

Now this won't suddenly mean America/the world will be Nazis from tomorrow but it will no doubt normalise this shit even more and allow even more heinous shit to be said without consequences.

I'd love to have just one of these dudes explain what they expect to happen in detail. And how "people who believe they are on the left" raging more on video game forums would have stopped it.

Like I'm pretty "smart" (calm down, I'm kidding) but I can't get to even step two of how things are supposed to happen because of this.
1. People think it's okay to say something is the result of good genes. Which... has never not been the case?

They're still insisting this ad is eugenics when nobody in that thread has once explained it even when people objected that it's not. Instead of they just hand wave, well Sydney Sweeney has blue eyes and blond hair and the Nazis really loved blue eyes and blond hair. Which, okay? That doesn't make either eugenics, the Nazis didn't try to exterminate people with brunette hair and brown eyes or the Fuhrer would have some issues. The Aryan ideal was a mythological thing, they didn't exist, so were never a practical goal. They're essentially arguing that a jeans company doing an ad with a popular actress are taking a more extreme eugenics position than the Nazis and doing so entirely through not explicitly saying anything and relying on ignorant people to connect the dots from an endless series of secret signals.

And all of this is still based on the false idea that Nazis, really white supremacists in general, place dogwhistles everywhere to send secret messages to each other that nobody else picks up on. A lie they have to rely on because it's the only way they can accuse people who aren't these things of being these things.

If it's all dogwhistles then how does it normalize anything? Unless you're trying to say that saying Sydney Sweeney has great genes was abnormal before, which it wasn't, despite people in that thread trying to insist nobody has ever in human history said someone has great genes because they're attractive.

"Oh, people are now just going to think that saying white people have good genes is fine to say!" Nobody thought it wasn't before! Nobody's ever considered this a problem or the frontedge of a Nazi powergrab until you guys all convinced yourself that's what it must be. Something you all did in the last week when other people said this and then you all rushed to prove how intelligent you were by repeating with certainty something you haven't even thought about.

So really their objection is someone said something they don't like, and other people don't see a problem with it. So they have to accuse those people of being stupid and not seeing the obvious, which they themselves say is not obvious but requires vast knowledge to understand, which allows them to dismiss their concerns. Then to force anyone else to not downplay this issue they have to assert that it's also obvious that this is the beginning of Holocaust 3.0. They have absolutely no explanation of how this ad leads there so they fall back on "it normalizes" things which doesn't mean anything, especially because they never established what it means other than reference to the arcane knowledge they posses but can't point to for anyone else to learn it.

But don't worry if that's not enough to convince you they have another fall back, after spending pages dismissing intent they can inform you that NOTHING is done in advertising without everyone involved having a clear intent and that's how you know everyone involved in this is a Nazi because of their clear intent to promote eugenics. Which they then completely hid and only the great seers of the stones have the ability to uncover. But also ignorant stupid fucking chuds. And also every single person on Earth who will be influenced by this ad into thinking eugenics is based and needs to be done to the maximum extent possible right this instant.

All this does is just distract you from the fact that we're still sitting at step one. Even granting them all the premises, that this is a verbatim Nazi ad rewritten into English, we still have no explanation of how this is supposed to lead to anything else. But no matter how often they do this, like proclaiming that Stellar Blade is the front of a woman hating movement invading the West from Korea, and no matter how none of their predictions are ever correct are you ever allowed to dismiss their prognostication abilities. But don't worry, when the camps come they won't be mocking you for dismissing Sydney Sweeney's ad leading to exactly what they said because you already mocked the idea that Gamergate was leading to this. They already knew y'all weren't serious.

[Lonewulfeus]

It’s worse when someone posts your joke on resetera. The last time it happened I nearly called the ree out but he wasn’t a prominent so it wasn’t worth wasting the opportunity.

I love when someone posts a joke I’ve made here on REeee, usually ends up being banned for it.

[Straight Edge]

[D3RANG3D]

[Daffy Duck]

Hahaha like clockwork

Everyone knew but most people took it as her being weak to speak against her parents.And the issue died there, i always kept it on the back of my mind ane sadly this is contirmation of my suspicions

https://www.resetera.com/threads/american-eagle-sparks-backlash-for-touting-sydney-sweeneys-great-jeans.1255467/page-18#post-143411013

Her fans who already liked her, wanting to continue to like her publicly on social media and forums.

Outing herself as MAGA won't make them stop liking her, but now they'll be forced to remain silent of their fandom, at least on left-leaning sites, lest they be downvoted to hell or vigorously reminded of how much of a MAGA shithead she actually is-- and in turn, they are.

[kaleidoscopium]

Yeah WWE should probably be considered being banned here...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-goes-full-maga-triple-h-joins-trump-administrations-sports-commission-wwe-promotes-it-on-smackdown.1260603/#post-143409090

Gonna ban the NFL threads too for the same reason? 😂

[D3RANG3D]

[benji]

One reason the above argument strategy "works" is not just because they ban opposing views but because most people are going to just tap out rather than argue back. You need someone reflexively stubborn and inherently skeptical that also grasps their language like myself to bother to untangle the nonsense of what they're saying and there's just not many people that stupid to "troll" forums enough to make an impact. As a result they convince themselves, and others, that they're "winning" and these arguments are good, when it's most like a default because the opposition isn't showing up. Once the social group achieves monopoly power both that way and by owning the local police force it's a feedback cycle that rewards the dumbest ideas.

Hence why when people actually do push back a little bit they constantly freak out and it's a crisis with all hands on deck because they have no experience with people who challenge them. You can see this all over MAGA Twitter every single day in the same way. Since they despise anyone who disagrees with them on the personal level they have to assume that anyone who does is a bad actor who means them harm as they have no experience with that being actually a sign of respect which is why they can't comprehend how elites typically have zero problems with interacting with people who disagree with them.

Which leads me towards:

This site having people argue for payment processor censorship really shows you guys have zero opinion of anything except "the opposite of what resetera" says 

It actually shows the opposite especially because there are people arguing against those positions. If you actually did deign to read here and could understand what people were saying the fact that some people here would take a measured and non-apocalyptic stance especially considering the target of the current kerfuffle would be unsurprising. Of the posters here who have shown any, let's call it, favoritism towards this only one of them has been any surprise to me because of previous conversations on other topics or similar topics. The nuances they've further replied to this aren't that surprising either as they fit in line with theirs on related topics. This is something that happens when discussions are allowed, even if maybe they should have their own thread, rather than stomped on to establish a mandatory position.

Posters here taking any side of a topic doesn't matter, same as on Era. The fear that Era, and likely yourself, expresses is that other people will be convinced from the position you support and so "knowing better" than them you need to protect them from being allowed to be convinced. You presume your right to protect others from counterarguments out of fear that they're better. It's an inherently weak position that shows zero confidence in your beliefs. Unlike say, Nepenthe, I know that free speech and not doing violence to people is superior so I have complete faith that reasonable people can be convinced of the truth. One reason Era despises due process is they don't believe this, they believe reasonable people can be convinced of anything no matter how stupid or how clearly false, hence why they conclude mob justice is superior to a court system. They've tried nothing and they're all out of ideas so they have no confidence in trying anything, which is why they're always demanding others destroy everything and start from scratch for them.

I suspect you even would accuse me of taking the payment processors side out of opposition to Era simply because I have mocked some of the outrage and am not foaming at the mouth demanding people flood customer service lines and cancel their cards. But I'm not outraged in this instance because as I said in a post when this kicked off, it's entirely expected, I already knew payment processors have been doing this for decades. All kinds of people associated, correctly or not, with MAGA or QAnon learned this a few years ago, and Era cheered and demanded more of it. Hell, if you know what they did to real porn you'd know smut games were falling into some kind of loophole or that they hadn't noticed it. But outrage and complaining isn't going to change the situation, you need to know why the payment processors police this stuff. Nobody on Era seems interested in finding out. They've decided it's part of a fascist plot that started recently, probably after a clothing ad, not something that's been going on for decades that they enthusiastically supported in the past. The same answer they have for everything, even despite it never being the answer for anything.

I just think it's strange that you randomly come here to complain that we're too diverse for you to understand. I may not subscribe to the theory that you're Jeff, you seem smarter than him for one thing, but it really does seem like getting him to stream would do more for the Right Side of History than throwing one or two posts to try and chum the waters once a month. I also know I said I wasn't going to play anymore but one of my problems is that I don't give up on people enough, I have the opposite problem of Era and think everyone is open to reasonable explanation. (Even animals btw.) For some reason I'm convinced you, and our other pro-Era visitors who never stick around long, are going to stand behind your hubris when challenged by open discussion.

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[benji]

Florida is a closed primary state, you have to register for a party to vote in its primaries. The GOP is the dominant party. But, yes, I'm skeptical that Ms. Sweeney is someone who wishes to use her vote to the greatest impact. I would have assumed she's a regular general election voter like Nepenthe.

Since I post people's houses on here, here's Sydney's:


She paid $13 million for it and since she's a real celebrity I don't have problems posting the address so people can gawk: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1300-Sunset-Blvd-Summerland-Key-FL-33042/104219204_zpid/

[Boredfrom]

I suspect you even would accuse me of taking the payment processors side out of opposition to Era simply because I have mocked some of the outrage and am not foaming at the mouth demanding people flood customer service lines and cancel their cards. But I'm not outraged in this instance because as I said in a post when this kicked off, it's entirely expected, I already knew payment processors have been doing this for decades. All kinds of people associated, correctly or not, with MAGA or QAnon learned this a few years ago, and Era cheered and demanded more of it. Hell, if you know what they did to real porn you'd know smut games were falling into some kind of loophole or that they hadn't noticed it. But outrage and complaining isn't going to change the situation, you need to know why the payment processors police this stuff. Nobody on Era seems interested in finding out. They've decided it's part of a fascist plot that started recently, probably after a clothing ad, not something that's been going on for decades that they enthusiastically supported in the past. The same answer they have for everything, even despite it never being the answer for anything

You mean that there is a contradiction between people like Valens defending smut while trying to silence others for being perceived CHUDS?

[benji]

You mean that there is a contradiction between people like Valens defending smut while trying to silence others for being perceived CHUDS?

I would say there's an argument they could make for why it's different, but they never do. There's actually two arguments I can distinctly think of, one of them stolen from Samuel Alito, but I don't think they'd actually support either.

The reason they always suffer "NOT LIKE THIS" syndrome is because they don't grasp that they aren't the ones who will be doing whatever they're demanding be done. And they especially never grasp how others can use it against them. You'd think these two things alone would dissuade them from such demands but they know better than us.

[kaleidoscopium]

Come over to AEW fandom, we have cookies (and gay wrestlers, trans wrestlers, our main referee is a bi woman and Toni fucking Storm).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-goes-full-maga-triple-h-joins-trump-administrations-sports-commission-wwe-promotes-it-on-smackdown.1260603/#post-143411322

Somehow I don’t think you’ll have a hard time finding gay wrestlers in the WWE either

[benji]

Come over to AEW fandom, we have cookies (and gay wrestlers, trans wrestlers, our main referee is a bi woman and Toni fucking Storm).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-goes-full-maga-triple-h-joins-trump-administrations-sports-commission-wwe-promotes-it-on-smackdown.1260603/#post-143411322

[Bootsthecat]

Srsly, every time the curtain gets pulled back a lil bit. I get it, a bunch of folks on these forums are legit hawking -level disabled n shit... But wtf "I haven't experienced reality for 15 years" is the read I get

https://www.resetera.com/threads/who-here-has-the-longest-interval-of-not-dining-in-a-restaurant-from-your-last-visit-up-until-this-posting.1260288/page-2

[Uncle]

This site having people argue for payment processor censorship really shows you guys have zero opinion of anything except "the opposite of what resetera" says 

the best part about this post is how easily it could've gone either way

"people here actually argue in favor of disgusting porn games just because of the why women criticize sexual designs thread   "

[benji]

I get it, a bunch of folks on these forums are legit hawking -level disabled n shit... But wtf "I haven't experienced reality for 15 years" is the read I get

I honestly think the first is an incredibly small group, like we know Ra's is but he also seems more well adjusted on most things that the others who are only self-diagnosed.  I've seen him push back against more of the stupidity than most of the other staff members. Possibly because he wasn't like this until he got paralyzed and it was forced on him. I don't even recall him screaming about "accessibility" in games ever, when he brings it up it's more like "had to do this one thing because of my specific situation" versus demanding one-hit kills or whatever. I wouldn't be surprised if he privately hates those people and just can't call them out on Era.

The reality of Nepenthe I think also speaks to this, the most race obsessed person on the forum constantly makes her specific personal personality traits into Black things because she has nothing to dissuade her from believing this despite being such a clear outlier in any demographic. Look at another of the forum's obsessives DigitalOp revealing truths about himself as a complete weirdo not merely a Black person. Or how Crossing Eden is a glorified tutor with no education background. Slayven of course.

TransEra is universally weirdos trying to NORMALIZE their specific personalities by claiming womanhood. I don't need to name names because I can't name any that aren't this.

Like I said the other day, these are people who have mainlined 101 level concepts and used them to explain EVERYTHING because that's the comforting narrative that tells them they're perfect and always will be and it's everyone else's fault they're ostracized despite doing nothing to try and fit in and everything they can to be "unique" within a narrow bound.

[benji]

This site having people argue for payment processor censorship really shows you guys have zero opinion of anything except "the opposite of what resetera" says 

the best part about this post is how easily it could've gone either way

"people here actually argue in favor of disgusting porn games just because of the why women criticize sexual designs thread   "

That's how you know your theory is perfect, when it can apply no matter what the facts.

[Jansen]

I can't believe Sydney Sweeney has been canceled 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-192#post-143399721

Conservatives can't seem to understand that Collective Shout is more on their side than anyone else's. They don't follow the money and see who and what is funding their efforts. They're just trying to shift the blame or rationalize it by somehow connecting them to SBI or anything on the "left" because they can't understand that government censorship through payment processors is one of the end results of their ideology.

They've spent decades flipping out about "censorship" in things like localization efforts or a character's outfit being changed, they don't even know what actual censorship looks like until the games they want to play are no longer purchasable. The absolute (and probably only contained to the Internet, if we're being honest) frothing rage if CS is able to cripple or prevent GTA6's release will be absolutely hilarious to watch.

I've spent a little bit of time going back and forth with people about this on Tiktok and I've also been seeing takes like "well X game (in this case "No Mercy") should have been removed, there's no merit to it", so the initial response seems to be that the censorship they agree with is fine, but that it shouldn't go further than that. They don't seem to understand that it is going further and will not stop as they secure more and more victories. The removal of any agency by brick-and-mortar stores and digital storefronts through capitulation to payment processors (who are capitulating on their own to increasingly conservative ideological pressures) doesn't end well for anyone. The fact that it only took like 1,000 complaints from this group to get all these games deindexed and unavailable is such an obvious sign of cowardice by Visa/Mastercard.

[D3RANG3D]

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-192#post-143399721

Conservatives can't seem to understand that Collective Shout is more on their side than anyone else's. They don't follow the money and see who and what is funding their efforts. They're just trying to shift the blame or rationalize it by somehow connecting them to SBI or anything on the "left" because they can't understand that government censorship through payment processors is one of the end results of their ideology.

The US government is funding Collective Shout to have third parties censor things?

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-192#post-143399721

Conservatives can't seem to understand that Collective Shout is more on their side than anyone else's. They don't follow the money and see who and what is funding their efforts. They're just trying to shift the blame or rationalize it by somehow connecting them to SBI or anything on the "left" because they can't understand that government censorship through payment processors is one of the end results of their ideology.

They've spent decades flipping out about "censorship" in things like localization efforts or a character's outfit being changed, they don't even know what actual censorship looks like until the games they want to play are no longer purchasable. The absolute (and probably only contained to the Internet, if we're being honest) frothing rage if CS is able to cripple or prevent GTA6's release will be absolutely hilarious to watch.

I've spent a little bit of time going back and forth with people about this on Tiktok and I've also been seeing takes like "well X game (in this case "No Mercy") should have been removed, there's no merit to it", so the initial response seems to be that the censorship they agree with is fine, but that it shouldn't go further than that. They don't seem to understand that it is going further and will not stop as they secure more and more victories. The removal of any agency by brick-and-mortar stores and digital storefronts through capitulation to payment processors (who are capitulating on their own to increasingly conservative ideological pressures) doesn't end well for anyone. The fact that it only took like 1,000 complaints from this group to get all these games deindexed and unavailable is such an obvious sign of cowardice by Visa/Mastercard.

lol even here he feels the need to defend things like localization changes. 
Let's imagine for a minute there was a conservative version of Sweet baby inc. a consultation group that advises studios on how not to walk into any cultural traps that piss off Gamers™. 
RE would lose their absolute fucking mind and declare it the end of art as we know it. Even while talking about how "the other side doesn't realize that this is their own ideology" he doesn't realize he does the same thing

All this shit started with people demanding that Steam removes that "No Mercy" game, something RE was overwhelmingly in favor of