Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[nachobro]

[benji]

And guess who from those four actually admits when he is wrong?

I always do.

[Boredfrom]

And guess who from those four actually admits when he is wrong?

I always do.

[nampad]

Why are you all letting boredfrom get away with that "Not really" about the girls supposedly not thirsting after the guys when they devote an entire scene and like 3 other shots to them getting popcorn eyes because they're so turned on by the boys? It's like the most explicit girls thirsting after guys I've ever seen in a kids show, and you all just let him get away with that? 

have you tried telling boredfrom he's wrong about something

Or Benji, Uncle and Potato. 



And guess who from those four actually admits when he is wrong?

No one reads benji‘s posts.

[Uncle]

You can't sue someone for calling you a slur.

um actually you can always sue anyone for any reason, it's just that whether or not you have a chance of winning is in question

[Daffy Duck]

It's not "demanding." It's just criticism.

What I think is the main 'break' in this thread is that people can't seem to abide with the idea that an action being inconsiderate, or flawed, or resultant in negative consequences, does not automatically make that action malicious. Nor does it make the party behind that action into something 'awful'. Of course it's "demanding," if you think criticism is in some way a major indictment of Team Cherry's entire being.

And, yes, there are systemic issues. But in much the same way you think I'm brushing those aside (I'm not), those who take the "TC owes no-one anything," stance are, themselves, brushing aside any concept of personal responsibility when it comes to said systemic issues. Which - frankly - is part of why those issues persist. Everyone thinks their own personal situation means they can abdicate their own personal responsibility. Everyone. Including myself, in many instances. What matters is not just sticking your nose up at any and all criticism because some other power, often esoteric and much larger than yourself, is the one actually preventing things from becoming a utopia.


It's not just having to delay things that is the only issue here, it's that the delay has had to be done under such short notice. Two weeks, when it comes to business planning, is a very - very short period of time. Contracts have been signed, embargoes agreed upon, review copies sent out, and so on. That now all needs to change, and fast, if these developers want what's best for their games. Hell, for some of them financial provisions many now need to be sorted out so they can even last another two months without their expected revenue.

And whilst I think the issues with news outlets are lesser in the grand scheme of things, it's true there that having only two weeks to prepare for coverage of what is undoubtedly going to be one of the biggest games of the year is not great. That's a lot of plans changed, commitments broken, and more.

And you're right. Even with a two month reveal-to-release period some games would have caused some issues... but it'd be disingenious to say that the impact wouldn't have been much smaller. Which - ultimately - is the issue here. It's not that Silksong's impact is inherently bad because, well, that's just a natural consequence of releasing such a gargantuan title. It's that the two week period is just so very small in the grand scheme of things that it's causing the maximum amount of impact.


"Responsibility," doesn't just mean "what one is obligated to do."

I mean... I think the article bringing it up was corny, but what do you think "with great power, comes great responsibility," even means if you're taking such a legalistic view of the term? Was Uncle Ben reciting legal case law stating that, if Peter Parker were to hypothetically gain the powers of a Spider, he would be legally obligated to protect the people of New York from various costumed villains?

Well said. I'm in complete agreement.

It's been quite sad to read some of the replies in this thread. Not just a refusal to consider having a smidgen of empathy for indie devs who have been negatively impacted by the two week lead time, but frankly mockery of the idea of having such empathy. Indie devs who have posted in this very thread. Team Cherry would have been perfectly fine with a longer lead time, they'd have been perfectly fine whatever release date they put out. While you don't have to look far at all to see talented teams of developers get crushed by the games industry right now, and this impact probably won't help at all.

Era's a better place than most for considering the wider gaming industry, but this thread has in many ways been an example of how barely better it is.

In a thread about a release date for a game, lmao

https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-the-gaming-industry-deserved-more-lead-time-before-silksong.1282719/page-20#post-144434958

[Boredfrom]

I’m with TC in this one (why the fuck they should care about the press and other games)… but I hate their fanboys so I’m enjoying them being called out of their hypocrisy.

[benji]

He deleted it and is blocking anyone who replies to his newest tweets with a screen shot.

Would be a shame if everyone kept replying to their new tweets with a screen of them being a creep.

No one reads benji‘s posts.

He deleted it and is blocking anyone who replies to his newest tweets with a screen shot.

Would be a shame if everyone kept replying to their new tweets with a screen of them being a creep.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98kpop-demon-hunters%E2%80%99-sequel-moving-ahead-as-sony-and-netflix-engage-in-deal-talks.1281363/#post-144358050


These creeps just won’t stop. It’s a kids movie and all they can think of is this? I can’t recall which one of the girls is Rumi but I remember they all thirsted for that boy band…

I stg they do with every major movie that's targeted at young girls. 

I know you guys are /pol/ users, but every time you discuss this stuff you come up as such boomers. Omg people are shipping characters in a movie!!!!

 Like half of the users here don't beat themself to Mihoyo games or other gachas. 

Also
>Kid movies
>literally the most watched netflix slop ever

yeah that's great and all but who is your favorite Saja Boy?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

He deleted it and is blocking anyone who replies to his newest tweets with a screen shot.

Would be a shame if everyone kept replying to their new tweets with a screen of them being a creep.

No one reads benji‘s posts.

He deleted it and is blocking anyone who replies to his newest tweets with a screen shot.

Would be a shame if everyone kept replying to their new tweets with a screen of them being a creep.

based jeff putting that perv in his place

[Uncle]

You can't sue someone for calling you a slur.  

um actually you can always sue anyone for any reason, it's just that whether or not you have a chance of winning is in question
 

And guess who from those four actually admits when he is wrong?

I always do.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Boredfrom whenever he sees an opportunity to pick a fight with his fellow Bires

[benji]

I liked the post didn't I?

[Boredfrom]

They don't owe anybody anything and can release their gamer when they want. Is their game and they have the right to do so. Now it seems that we need to apologize for everything, what a society we have now....

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/august-27-2025-school-shooting-in-minneapolis.1281897/page-6#post-144401394

My son is starting preschool this year, and we're homeschooling him. This stuff is the reason why. If it were feasible, I would take my family and leave this country.

Good choice, glad you're doing homeschooling.

I don't have kids and don't want any, but if I did have kids, they would be homeschooled and would never know the insanity of going to public (or private) schools.

                            evangelical keeping their kids out of the godless lib schools?
 


https://www.resetera.com/threads/august-27-2025-school-shooting-in-minneapolis.1281897/page-6#post-144397803

At what point will authorities start taking 4chan, kiwifarms, and Telegram seriously and start doing something about these Neo Nazi safe havens?

At what point anything. It's been going on for decades now. This country is an abject failure. We need to close shop.

Trump's FBI are too ill-equipped and low-key disinterested to tackle these psychopathic accelerationist cults. I'm almost certain the frequency of these types of mass shooting events are going to exponentially grow for the next couple of years.

It just shows how chronically online the person was. They had no life outside of the internet.

These terrorgram groups have been actively grooming children and teens into doing terrible acts that they can share and laugh about it in their channels. It's as clear as day to me that this shooter was in these channels and if I'd hazard a guess, was encouraged to do it by others. You can also likely draw a link between this shooting with those performed by a girl earlier this year and another one, performed by a black student. All of them have a culprit that does not fit the archetype for mass shootings but who were described as "loners"; all of them have weaponry and manifestos alluding to online nihilist & neo-nazi memes or co-opted imagery like KMFDM. This particular shooter had a Twitter account where she tweeted about some alien figure, Drill Sgt. Grey (or something like that), which is apparently an in-joke on these servers.

It's also a well reasoned suspicion of mine that these groups have been trying to get non-cis het white men to do them and that particularly, they've wanted a trans-woman to commit these shootings, not for any policy driven reason, but because that detail makes it funnier to them while the resulting tear in the social fabric is just an added joke for them. As stated in above posts, these groups do want to stoke cultural divisions and start *something* helter skelter or whatever but ultimately, on a base level, they just think it is funny and that they have a right to do this.

I don't know what you do to combat these groups and it almost makes me think the UK is onto something. Their recruitment methods are scary and persistent. They are very tech-literate and will find workarounds and to be frank, the public platforms they operate on are too large in scale to be properly moderated. I don't think we can properly address this particular shooting and the narrative being formed around it until we understand the networks that now exist, in part due to derelict moderation practices, whose primary purpose is to destroy the lives of targeted individuals through coercion, humiliation and abuse.

Yeah the patterns with this are horrifying. There needs to be a real concentrated federal effort on stamping down these groups, and instead it's going to be unrelated marginalized groups that are targeted.

These groups are self proclaimed Satanic. It makes zero sense that a hyper-religious admin wouldn't be endlessly motivated to track them down. Shows how blinded they've become by their own bogey men.

Hopefully competent federal investigators; not tasked with bs immigration enforcement stunts, can drill down on these home grown suspects in waiting.

but... ACAB?

These far-right groups in particular want to stoke societal collapse by doing these mass casualty incidents so their dream white ethnostate would rise from the ashes.

They don't want to wait for late-stage capitalism or the global rise of authoritarianism to reach their endpoint. Any scale that they can tip in their favour they will put their greasy thumbs on, like sabotaging power grids, plotting assassinations of political leaders, or grooming disaffected teenagers to commit school shootings.

Or if you have little to nothing to lose, direct action and sabotage of fossil fuel infrastructure.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/august-27-2025-school-shooting-in-minneapolis.1281897/page-6#post-144401394

My son is starting preschool this year, and we're homeschooling him. This stuff is the reason why. If it were feasible, I would take my family and leave this country.

Good choice, glad you're doing homeschooling.

I don't have kids and don't want any, but if I did have kids, they would be homeschooled and would never know the insanity of going to public (or private) schools.

How regressive. Must be nice to be rich enough to homeschool your child. 

Thank you for ceding ground to the right. You're what's wrong with shitlibs.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/metal-gear-solid-%CE%94-snake-eater-ot-ive-given-you-weapons.1280244/page-15#post-144439536

My VR footage from earlier when I was playing on my Meta Quest 3 VDXR & UEVR and my super gaming PC lol. All settings uncapped ultra at 4K. Bliss yall

[DavidCroquet]

New talking point just dropped.

These terrorgram groups have been actively grooming children and teens into doing terrible acts that they can share and laugh about it in their channels. It's as clear as day to me that this shooter was in these channels and if I'd hazard a guess, was encouraged to do it by others. You can also likely draw a link between this shooting with those performed by a girl earlier this year and another one, performed by a black student. All of them have a culprit that does not fit the archetype for mass shootings but who were described as "loners"; all of them have weaponry and manifestos alluding to online nihilist & neo-nazi memes or co-opted imagery like KMFDM. This particular shooter had a Twitter account where she tweeted about some alien figure, Drill Sgt. Grey (or something like that), which is apparently an in-joke on these servers.
It's also a well reasoned suspicion of mine that these groups have been trying to get non-cis het white men to do them and that particularly, they've wanted a trans-woman to commit these shootings, not for any policy driven reason, but because that detail makes it funnier to them while the resulting tear in the social fabric is just an added joke for them. As stated in above posts, these groups do want to stoke cultural divisions and start *something* helter skelter or whatever but ultimately, on a base level, they just think it is funny and that they have a right to do this.
I don't know what you do to combat these groups and it almost makes me think the UK is onto something. Their recruitment methods are scary and persistent. They are very tech-literate and will find workarounds and to be frank, the public platforms they operate on are too large in scale to be properly moderated. I don't think we can properly address this particular shooting and the narrative being formed around it until we understand the networks that now exist, in part due to derelict moderation practices, whose primary purpose is to destroy the lives of targeted individuals through coercion, humiliation and abuse.

Excellent Wired article on 764

Serious CW for the above article, please heed the disclaimer at the top.

[Boredfrom]

It's I lost my daughter to a school shooting, I'm not sure how I'd be able to believe in God anymore. There is no justifiable reason you could ever give me that justifies how my daughter's murder would be "all part of his plan."

Everyone should be me.

Yeah that would make me hate God. It's a terrible form of comfort and I don't know why it's so prevalent. SMH…

So we are admitting that is not a weird thing to say to a Christian?

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-lesbian-medieval-gothic-punk-mech-based-fighting-game.1283031/#post-144440682 

you understand that there's more nuance to objectification, right? you can still perpetuate objectification even if you're a woman while simultaneously being a victim. Misogyny is a societal norm and impacts so much of our world, even if we are not cognizant of it. Everyone needs to be careful of this.

Okay but what are you wanting me to do here? I am a lesbian and I'm talking about a game I wish exited and I could make, I want more wlw and lesbian media, I'm not sure how I can write about that without mentioning lesbians?

 
Did he mention he's a lesbian? Because he's totally a lesbian and probably a more valid lesbian than actual women. 

Echos is dialing up the discord transmafia as we speak to get this low-post user permabanned for transphobia.

[Propagandhim]

I am also disappointed with my own suggestion lol; it is quite annoying how alone we are and how individualized and weak so-called solutions like misdemeanor charges are as a result.


Like I don't think people here are truly reckoning with the fact that her raising almost a million coupled with the lack of direct action either towards her or in favor of the family she harmed is another instance in a long pattern that the wider white community is okay with what occurred.

Punishing her individually, really, does nothing, because there's several thousand others around her who support her, and those people have wider support, and so do those people.

This is a culture problem that paradoxically requires input from the very culture that benefits from the problem to dismantle it.

Deradicalization and assimilation after the civil rights movement died was a fucking mistake. :3

Is Nepenthe willfully unaware of the Karmelo Anthony legal fund that is still collecting donations and at $550k+ now. 

https://www.givesendgo.com/HelpKarmelo


It's the same exact shit, only this guy actually murdered someone.   

Punishing her individually, really, does nothing, because there's several thousand others around her who support her, and those people have wider support, and so do those people.

What does Nepenthe want to do to people related by random association to those she doesn't like.  And what does she expect her political opposites are going to do when she does it? 

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/august-27-2025-school-shooting-in-minneapolis.1281897/page-6#post-144401394

Good choice, glad you're doing homeschooling.

I don't have kids and don't want any, but if I did have kids, they would be homeschooled and would never know the insanity of going to public (or private) schools.

How regressive. Must be nice to be rich enough to homeschool your child. 

Thank you for ceding ground to the right. You're what's wrong with shitlibs.

they're genuinely going to have a hard time doing it I think, unless there's a growing liberal urban movement I'm unaware of

a big part of homeschooling is connecting with the wider homeschooling system, other parents, other groups, you still send your kid to classes and they connect with other students

homeschooling is largely a conservative thing in the US, they might meet with a lot of hostility from the other parents if there's a culture clash

things like, if the kid is interested in theater, well hey there's this theater group that organizes everything for homeschooled kids...except you're putting on a very un-subtle christian play in a local church

otherwise you might be out of luck and your kid just doesn't get to pursue their interests

[benji]

It's I lost my daughter to a school shooting, I'm not sure how I'd be able to believe in God anymore. There is no justifiable reason you could ever give me that justifies how my daughter's murder would be "all part of his plan."

Yeah that would make me hate God. It's a terrible form of comfort and I don't know why it's so prevalent. SMH…

It's faith, it's not supposed to be rational. You're supposed to trust in God and his purpose. "God works in mysterious ways" is another way of saying you can't understand his intent and you're not supposed to.

I personally would argue that this is incoherent towards the claim that God desires us to have free will, if his purpose cannot be discerned by us then God is being illogical and that seems absurd if we are made in his image and are supposed to follow his unarticulated tenets. But there's a lot of Christianity, or Islam, that simply doesn't see this as a contradiction. That's just faith, we who don't have it probably can't understand.

It's a comfort because it says there is a plan. For the same reason you guys have to believe the Right Side of History is a thing and that Zionists and Gamergate are undermining History's plan.

[malfoyking]

MGS3 is still such a perfect game.

I give my life, not for honour, but for you!!!!!!!

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-lesbian-medieval-gothic-punk-mech-based-fighting-game.1283031/#post-144440682 

you understand that there's more nuance to objectification, right? you can still perpetuate objectification even if you're a woman while simultaneously being a victim. Misogyny is a societal norm and impacts so much of our world, even if we are not cognizant of it. Everyone needs to be careful of this.

Okay but what are you wanting me to do here? I am a lesbian and I'm talking about a game I wish exited and I could make, I want more wlw and lesbian media, I'm not sure how I can write about that without mentioning lesbians?

 
Did he mention he's a lesbian? Because he's totally a lesbian and probably a more valid lesbian than actual women. 

Echos is dialing up the discord transmafia as we speak to get this low-post user permabanned for transphobia.

[BIONIC]

It's I lost my daughter to a school shooting, I'm not sure how I'd be able to believe in God anymore. There is no justifiable reason you could ever give me that justifies how my daughter's murder would be "all part of his plan."

Yeah that would make me hate God. It's a terrible form of comfort and I don't know why it's so prevalent. SMH…

It's faith, it's not supposed to be rational. You're supposed to trust in God and his purpose. "God works in mysterious ways" is another way of saying you can't understand his intent and you're not supposed to.

I personally would argue that this is incoherent towards the claim that God desires us to have free will, if his purpose cannot be discerned by us then God is being illogical and that seems absurd if we are made in his image and are supposed to follow his unarticulated tenets. But there's a lot of Christianity, or Islam, that simply doesn't see this as a contradiction. That's just faith, we who don't have it probably can't understand.

It's a comfort because it says there is a plan. For the same reason you guys have to believe the Right Side of History is a thing and that Zionists and Gamergate are undermining History's plan.

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-lesbian-medieval-gothic-punk-mech-based-fighting-game.1283031/#post-144440682 

Okay but what are you wanting me to do here? I am a lesbian and I'm talking about a game I wish exited and I could make, I want more wlw and lesbian media, I'm not sure how I can write about that without mentioning lesbians?

 
Did he mention he's a lesbian? Because he's totally a lesbian and probably a more valid lesbian than actual women. 
 
Echos is dialing up the discord transmafia as we speak to get this low-post user permabanned for transphobia.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-2025-ot-taco-trump-and-the-big-beautiful-bullshit.1236576/page-41#post-144433809

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/newsom-popularity-grows-2028-primary-001735222.html

That's my quarterback right there 🥹

[Snoopy]

[quote=Plum]
It's not "demanding." It's just criticism.

What I think is the main 'break' in this thread is that people can't seem to abide with the idea that an action being inconsiderate, or flawed, or resultant in negative consequences, does not automatically make that action malicious. Nor does it make the party behind that action into something 'awful'. Of course it's "demanding," if you think criticism is in some way a major indictment of Team Cherry's entire being.

And, yes, there are systemic issues. But in much the same way you think I'm brushing those aside (I'm not), those who take the "TC owes no-one anything," stance are, themselves, brushing aside any concept of personal responsibility when it comes to said systemic issues. Which - frankly - is part of why those issues persist. Everyone thinks their own personal situation means they can abdicate their own personal responsibility. Everyone. Including myself, in many instances. What matters is not just sticking your nose up at any and all criticism because some other power, often esoteric and much larger than yourself, is the one actually preventing things from becoming a utopia.


It's not just having to delay things that is the only issue here, it's that the delay has had to be done under such short notice. Two weeks, when it comes to business planning, is a very - very short period of time. Contracts have been signed, embargoes agreed upon, review copies sent out, and so on. That now all needs to change, and fast, if these developers want what's best for their games. Hell, for some of them financial provisions many now need to be sorted out so they can even last another two months without their expected revenue.

And whilst I think the issues with news outlets are lesser in the grand scheme of things, it's true there that having only two weeks to prepare for coverage of what is undoubtedly going to be one of the biggest games of the year is not great. That's a lot of plans changed, commitments broken, and more.

And you're right. Even with a two month reveal-to-release period some games would have caused some issues... but it'd be disingenious to say that the impact wouldn't have been much smaller. Which - ultimately - is the issue here. It's not that Silksong's impact is inherently bad because, well, that's just a natural consequence of releasing such a gargantuan title. It's that the two week period is just so very small in the grand scheme of things that it's causing the maximum amount of impact.


"Responsibility," doesn't just mean "what one is obligated to do."

I mean... I think the article bringing it up was corny, but what do you think "with great power, comes great responsibility," even means if you're taking such a legalistic view of the term? Was Uncle Ben reciting legal case law stating that, if Peter Parker were to hypothetically gain the powers of a Spider, he would be legally obligated to protect the people of New York from various costumed villains?

I just want to point out that Plum stacks shelves for a living.

[Propagandhim]

You have to wonder if Zeo has someone in mind when he tweets, "Man, Elizabeth is gonna think I'm sooo cool for talking shit to this chud" or if he really thinks JD Vance is reading his reddit post.