b-dubs wrote:Groat wrote:I genuinely wasn't aware. Do we have a list of decent reputable news sources somewhere? tbh, it's not about there being a list or not. It's about being able to tell by looking at it, it's about media literacy. It's really easy to tell the difference between an actual news site that fucks up sometimes and a clickbait site that doesn't care whether the story is right or not so long as it drives clicks.
 okay but that doesn't answer his question, you literally say it's a rag but then do not provide better outlets and instead tell them to do their own research. That's not helpful at all.
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(09-14-2025, 12:58 AM)benji wrote: (09-14-2025, 12:51 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Gay sex and transgenderism is not part of true communism. Read Marx.  He's a little white, let's try somebody closer to the Global South:
Fidel Castro, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Cuba#Post-revolution_Cuba wrote:We would never come to believe that a homosexual could embody the conditions and requirements of conduct that would enable us to consider him a true Revolutionary, a true Communist militant. A deviation of that nature clashes with the concept we have of what a militant Communist must be.
Consejo Nacional de los Derechos Humanos:
https://www.cndh.org.mx/noticia/fidel-castro-revolucionario-y-estadista-cubano-defensor-de-la-soberania-e-independencia-de
Spoiler: (click to show)(click to hide)
But at least they made the GOAT thanks to him and the Ché:
(09-14-2025, 01:03 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Consejo Nacional de los Derechos Humanos:
https://www.cndh.org.mx/noticia/fidel-castro-revolucionario-y-estadista-cubano-defensor-de-la-soberania-e-independencia-de At least they're honest enough to admit Castro gave up on socialism too:
Quote:Sobrevivir a la crisis económica 1989-1994. Con la pérdida de las subvenciones soviéticas y la caída cercana al 40% del ingreso per cápita entre 1989 y 1994, Cuba reorganizó su economía, despenalizando el uso del dólar, legalizando los mercados agropecuarios de productores privados, liberalizando el trabajo por cuenta propia y promoviendo nuevas actividades económicas y exportaciones, etc,
Quote:Surviving the economic crisis of 1989-1994. With the loss of Soviet subsidies and a fall of nearly 40% in per capita income between 1989 and 1994, Cuba reorganized its economy, decriminalizing the use of the dollar, legalizing agricultural markets for private producers, liberalizing self-employment and promoting new economic activities and exports, etc.,
09-14-2025, 01:12 AM
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(09-14-2025, 12:40 AM)HaughtyFrank wrote: It's also literally an elementary school level joke. My first assumption would be that any adult who makes that joke does it ironically Oh, they totally know that. LGBTQ+ reddit, discord, twitter, etc. etc. spaces share these types of ironic jokes all the time. r/196, a mostly queer meme sub, had these memes where a UwU furry would say "lmao ur gay" and the hundreds of comments would proceed to circlejerk themselves on how gay and queer they were.
They're just looking for an anthill to make a mountain out of. Absolutely any scrap to give any label to signal "he's nothing like us!"
Edit: Also the "OwO *notices bulge* what's this?". Obviously it's all tied to ironic memes rather than "homophobia".
09-14-2025, 01:12 AM
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(09-14-2025, 01:03 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: b-dubs wrote:It's really easy to tell the difference between an actual news site that fucks up sometimes and a clickbait site that doesn't care whether the story is right or not so long as it drives clicks. And the New York Times would be the latter right? Or is this another "cis and libs don't care" about the fact that they are pushing two genocides?
(09-14-2025, 01:07 AM)benji wrote: (09-14-2025, 01:03 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Consejo Nacional de los Derechos Humanos:
https://www.cndh.org.mx/noticia/fidel-castro-revolucionario-y-estadista-cubano-defensor-de-la-soberania-e-independencia-de At least they're honest enough to admit Castro gave up on socialism too:
Quote:Sobrevivir a la crisis económica 1989-1994. Con la pérdida de las subvenciones soviéticas y la caída cercana al 40% del ingreso per cápita entre 1989 y 1994, Cuba reorganizó su economía, despenalizando el uso del dólar, legalizando los mercados agropecuarios de productores privados, liberalizando el trabajo por cuenta propia y promoviendo nuevas actividades económicas y exportaciones, etc,
Quote:Surviving the economic crisis of 1989-1994. With the loss of Soviet subsidies and a fall of nearly 40% in per capita income between 1989 and 1994, Cuba reorganized its economy, decriminalizing the use of the dollar, legalizing agricultural markets for private producers, liberalizing self-employment and promoting new economic activities and exports, etc.,
Capitalism with Cuban characteristics, chud.
Wikipedia wrote:In a 2010 interview with Mexican newspaper La Jornada, Castro called the persecution of homosexuals while he was in power "a great injustice, great injustice!" Taking responsibility for the persecution, he said, "If anyone is responsible, it's me.... We had so many and such terrible problems, problems of life or death. In those moments, I was not able to deal with that matter [of homosexuals]. I found myself immersed, principally, in the Crisis of October, in the war, in policy questions." Castro personally said that the negative treatment of gays in Cuba arose out of the country's pre-revolutionary attitudes toward homosexuality.
We forgive you, king camarada Fidel!
09-14-2025, 01:16 AM
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Im a few pages back but the shooter was into Melody/Fat4all body shape on his women?
Yikes.
Gives me the ick.
(09-13-2025, 10:57 PM)cRumB wrote: NGL I had no idea who this Kirk guy was till he got shot, rip I guess?
All i know is hes the guy that's not Ben Shapiro.
(09-14-2025, 01:12 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Capitalism with Cuban characteristics, chud. List of fucking libs:
-Lenin
-Deng
-Castro
-Tito
-Dubcek
-Gorbachev
Juche stays undefeated.
(09-14-2025, 12:32 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: (09-14-2025, 12:28 AM)HaughtyFrank wrote: (09-14-2025, 12:25 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Bro you're either lying or have never been in trans spaces on Discord, Reddit, and 4chan. 
I bet you think the word Traps is anti-trans too.
They really think this is some crazy hateful joke, huh?
like as much as it sounds era like, I can't even with these people. I've been in lgbt internet spaces for so long that these types of jokes were always used. It's only been after the tumblr-era and newspeak whitewashing of the current gen internet that it's now considered bad by hanger-on's who've never stepped foot in those spaces but want to act progressive for good boy points.
Anyone on Era saying LGBT people don't talk like this are fucking liars.
I'm not even inundated in those spaces and I've seen all kinds of that, gay person pops into discord and says "what's up fags and fagettes"
I also wouldn't say that myself outside of spaces where it's been reclaimed by everyone present and said in a 100% endearing way
09-14-2025, 01:22 AM
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https://archive.is/htY7x
The article for those not wanting to deal with paywall.
B-Dubs wrote:higemaru wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/13/us/kirk-killing-suspect-online-chat.html
Given how fast this thread is moving, not sure if this has been posted yet. This seems legitimately sourced though. The Discord chat is interesting, one would think a cache of messages would help people gain more insight into his politics but the ones selected here still feel vague. Him joking that "The shooter is clearly from California" feels liberal to me (sort of calling out right wing whininess/fearmongering) but is something that could belong to anyone with eyes or basic pattern recognition.
Registered Independent though and this article cites that he does live with his parents, at least officially. The bold feels liberal to you? What?
B-dubs can't understand the joke
Quote:When another user suggested that the killing of Mr. Kirk would lead President Trump to send the National Guard to Utah, the suspect replied, “in a red state??? nah CLEARLY the shooter was from california.”
(09-14-2025, 01:20 AM)benji wrote: (09-14-2025, 01:12 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Capitalism with Cuban characteristics, chud. List of fucking libs:
-Lenin
-Deng
-Castro
-Tito
-Dubcek
-Gorbachev
Juche stays undefeated. 
(09-14-2025, 12:47 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: What a witch hunt. I wonder if a database will be made to gather all their names too.
I've whipped up a website for that but be warned its name is deeply euphemistic and brain-poisoned, just trust me, this is the place
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(09-14-2025, 01:22 AM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: https://archive.is/htY7x
The article for those not wanting to deal with paywall.
B-Dubs wrote:higemaru wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/13/us/kirk-killing-suspect-online-chat.html
Given how fast this thread is moving, not sure if this has been posted yet. This seems legitimately sourced though. The Discord chat is interesting, one would think a cache of messages would help people gain more insight into his politics but the ones selected here still feel vague. Him joking that "The shooter is clearly from California" feels liberal to me (sort of calling out right wing whininess/fearmongering) but is something that could belong to anyone with eyes or basic pattern recognition.
Registered Independent though and this article cites that he does live with his parents, at least officially. The bold feels liberal to you? What? B-dubs can't understand the joke
Quote:When another user suggested that the killing of Mr. Kirk would lead President Trump to send the National Guard to Utah, the suspect replied, “in a red state??? nah CLEARLY the shooter was from california.” The shooter joking with his friends on discord is amazing stuff.
Quote:After Mr. Robinson joked that the gunman was his look-alike, another user suggested that the group could turn Mr. Robinson in and get the $100,000 reward that the F.B.I. was offering.
“Only if I get a cut,” Mr. Robinson responded.
09-14-2025, 01:33 AM
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(09-14-2025, 01:25 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nepal-is-currently-being-run-by-discord-after-a-gen-z-uprising-elects-a-new-prime-minister-via-discord.1297389/#post-145135563
firehawk12 wrote:Wild how fast this happened.
Also to everyone saying protests don't work... yep. We're supposed to celebrate that they overthrew a communist government that was trying to collect essential taxes and regulate disinformation on social media to put some kind of centrist in power?
edit: Oof, yikes, even empowering the far-right and chuds:
Quote:Talks about restoring the monarchy re-emerged, with former king Gyanendra emerging as a "symbol of resistance for those disillusioned with the current political system" particularly from the royalist opposition to the post Nepali civil war governments.
Side-eyeing Gen-Z right now.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/coldplay-gives-shoutout-to-the-family-of-charlie-kirk.1297158/page-2#post-145125696
Surakian wrote:Lexad wrote:If he really is dedicating it to a grieving mother and her two kids, regardless of how you feel about Charlie, this is a fucking nothing burger I should be sympathetic towards the people who likely also has the same views as him????
https://www.resetera.com/threads/coldplay-gives-shoutout-to-the-family-of-charlie-kirk.1297158/page-2#post-145136604
Surakian wrote:Good4Squat wrote:The children are 3 and 1. Bit Early to throw them in the trash eh? Guaranteed those children are being raised to be just as hateful as him. I can feel empathy for children losing their father and a wife losing her husband but I have no sympathy for hateful people, and I can only hope those children will find a way out of their impending indoctrination.
But that's all. Sympathy is not what I offer them.
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Quote:Can someone copy/paste the discord logs NYT claims they have? I can't access the full article seemingly (not even with a reader mode trick).
And btw, are we trusting NYT now? Because I dunno...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/september-10-2025-charlie-kirk-assassinated-at-utah-valley-university-do-not-post-videos-of-incident-up-suspect-in-custody.1294083/post-145141125
Alright why are these clowns even following the news when they trust no one. Better check what Truthguru6969 has to say on tiktok
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I tried to hide, but something broke
I tried to sing, couldn't hit the notes
The words kept catching in my throat
I tried to smile, I was suffocating though
But here with you, I can finally breathe
You say you're no good, but you're good for me
I've been hoping to change, now I know we can change
But I won't if you're not by my side
nytimes wrote:Mr. Robinson’s messages on Discord appeared next to his avatar, which was from a Garfield comic and depicted the confused face of Garfield’s owner, Jon Arbuckle.
this links to a tumblr image:
I need to know, did they track down the exact confused face of jon arbuckle, or did they merely find a representative confused face to help the audience visualize what his avatar looked like, a crucial detail for some reason?
(09-14-2025, 01:42 AM)HaughtyFrank wrote: Quote:Can someone copy/paste the discord logs NYT claims they have? I can't access the full article seemingly (not even with a reader mode trick).
And btw, are we trusting NYT now? Because I dunno...
https://www.resetera.com/threads/september-10-2025-charlie-kirk-assassinated-at-utah-valley-university-do-not-post-videos-of-incident-up-suspect-in-custody.1294083/post-145141125
Alright why are these clowns even following the news when they trust no one. Better check what Truthguru6969 has to say on tiktok
okay b-dubs we need a list of trusted news articles because now I've got no clue.
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Quote:US media is definitely making sure to suppress this news. Really is a big deal and first of it's kind. Can't have that information floating around the states and have people get any funny ideas
Quote:Not only US media, nothing about it was aired in local media where I am at in the EU either and I am hearing similar things from people I've spoken to in other countries. This is not getting air time pretty much anywhere, It blew up on TikTok as it was happening though.
Quote:It happened, the mainstream Western media just isn't reporting on it.
Quote:What's happening in Nepal should be global news. It should be all over the news.
Quote:Unfortunately, the media wouldn't like awakening people to the very real ability to overthrow their government.
They really think everything is a conspiracy.
The PM resigned, there's an interim one with new elections scheduled. That's all that happened. Basically the same thing just happened in Canada. The coalition in Germany fell apart triggering an election. The French government just fell last week. Why would American media cover this? Or even places like the BBC? It's Nepal.
It also was in fact just below "the fold" of the BBC home page:
Kain-Nosgoth wrote:surprising that not more media talks about it here, since it's a communist party that was overthrown, you would think the USA would freaking love that, lol
and y'all are cheering for this? Great, capitalism ruins another generation.
in 5 years, will there be a copycat shooter wearing a t-shirt with this same jon arbuckle face?
(09-14-2025, 01:47 AM)benji wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nepal-is-currently-being-run-by-discord-after-a-gen-z-uprising-elects-a-new-prime-minister-via-discord.1297389/#post-145136127
Quote:US media is definitely making sure to suppress this news. Really is a big deal and first of it's kind. Can't have that information floating around the states and have people get any funny ideas
Quote:Not only US media, nothing about it was aired in local media where I am at in the EU either and I am hearing similar things from people I've spoken to in other countries. This is not getting air time pretty much anywhere, It blew up on TikTok as it was happening though.
Quote:It happened, the mainstream Western media just isn't reporting on it.
Quote:What's happening in Nepal should be global news. It should be all over the news.
Quote:Unfortunately, the media wouldn't like awakening people to the very real ability to overthrow their government.
They really think everything is a conspiracy.
The PM resigned, there's an interim one with new elections scheduled. That's all that happened. Basically the same thing just happened in Canada. The coalition in Germany fell apart triggering an election. The French government just fell last week. Why would American media cover this? Or even places like the BBC? It's Nepal.
implying it wasn't backed by the CIA just like the arab spring.
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