Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Boredfrom]

Benji, it's really unlike you to misrepresent something and leave very important things out.

That's not what happened at all.

...

Very far from 'nothing happening'.

I didn't say "nothing happening" I said the government fell and elections are scheduled, which is true. I was responding to how they're acting like the entire state was overthrown and Hasan put in power so the news media is actively covering it up lest Americans get any ideas.

It's unremarkable news for news consumers in the United States. That's why they aren't covering it to the exception of stuff they care about.

Being fair, seems that ERA doesn’t care about those children either:

This current rush largely started from protests over wealth inequality and the disparity shown between their leaders and the regular people. They don't want to show that.

[Boredfrom]

In other news, B Dubs doesn’t use ad block:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-stop-saying-80-games-are-anti-consumer.1297437/

[Boredfrom]

It's not anti-consumer. You want developers to get paid more? You want better graphics than we had in the last game? You want huge open worlds with tons of side content? Guess what? All that shit costs money.

10 minutes later

edit: I give up, nevermind

It's exploitation

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I'm going to compile a database of all cum posters

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

I refuse to pay 80 dollars for a game worth only 4 hours

unless it's Harry Potter related.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

It's not anti-consumer. You want developers to get paid more? You want better graphics than we had in the last game? You want huge open worlds with tons of side content? Guess what? All that shit costs money.

could cut cost by not giving the game studio heads a shit ton of money.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/canelo-vs-crawford-tonight-on-netflix.1297452/page-2#post-145143237

I think this fight is activating my asthma because I'm feeling exhausted just watching these two fight!

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Good lord. A Trumpy bar in a nearby town is holding a vigil for for him tomorrow and someone I know from work going 🙄

The moral rot in our country runs deep

 oh no please stay safe 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/september-10-2025-charlie-kirk-assassinated-at-utah-valley-university-do-not-post-videos-of-incident-up-suspect-in-custody.1294083/page-259#post-145142151

I hope people are documenting and saving some of the shit these crazy republicans are saying for future use.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/virtual-boy-nintendo-classics-announced-for-switch-switch-2-requires-virtual-boy-accessory-cardboard-model-also-available-out-feb-17th.1295799/#post-145054938

I hate that I need to buy this

[Boredfrom]

The vote with your wallet thing don't even work mane. For every "vote with my wallet" id do there's bout 100 ppl per thread just on this site alone going they'd even pay $100 lol. So you pretty much priced outta ya hobby. Sucks but it is what it is

[D3RANG3D]

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-stop-saying-80-games-are-anti-consumer.1297437/

In essence, get mad that wages aren't going up and fight that battle, but don't be mad at increased cost of gaming.

 Wouldn't that just increase the cost of the games?

Wages have gone up for who? Maybe for folks high cost areas, but here in Ohio I still know folks making $18 an hour.

I don't disagree with the video, but folks are still poor.

"Your general statement can't be true, I know of some exceptions!"

80$ games are anti-consumer and bringing up "inflation" doesn't disprove it, considering that inflation is almost entirely composed of greedflation.

I've said this before in other threads. People need to stop complaining about a McDouble not being $1 anymore. They need to be mad at their employer still paying them the same wage as when the McDouble was $1.

 

Until someone actually produces hard data about developers being paid more since the first price hike and now people should not be allowed to use this shit as an argument.

Cause I dunno all I see is just more developers being let go of their jobs while the people making the decisions get richer and richer from those price hikes.
And yeah 80 dollars is fucking anti consumer if all it serves is to help CEOs get more yachts.

All the arguments about "the price of pizza in 1979" are worth nothing when people dont wan't to pay.

Something something "people aren't being paid enough" + inflation somehow makes it ok..?

The same reason we get big inflation/ shrinkflation is because companys are passing the costs onto consumers so thet can maintain their margins - that's literally what oligopolys do ..

I think this thread actively wants to make it illegal for people to be able to recoup their costs of production.

Yeah, it's a similar way of erroneously thinking that if the higher-ups get more money (from gov, tax cuts, etc.), then it will eventually trickle down to the workers too. Turns out history has repeatedly proven that wrong.

Edit: also, personal opinion but I don't think people should be obsessed with playing games with even higher fidelity graphics than we currently have, nor larger open-world games with even more bloat (useless content "needed" to justify increased development costs, crunch and prices), because that's definitely not sustainable in our late-stage capitalist soon technofascist context. We should aim for decreasing the videogames industry, with less generic capitalist production and more high-quality jobs that actually respect the workers.

Developers are not getting paid more. That money is not going into the actual developer's hands. Why do you think publishers are getting record profits year over year while laying off dozens of thousands? I'm sorry but this is naive at best.

I'm getting a raise every year and annual bonuses. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is getting that either. How is that paid for year to year without the revenue generated by the games I work on doesn't increase? The line has to go up for that to work regardless of where you think the money is going. The cost to make games is going up is because I'm getting paid more and so are the people around me every year. So yes, plenty of developers are paid more and some of that money is going into my hand.

Raises and bonuses are parts of lots of jobs for so many different reasons...I don't believe there's actually a 1-1 relationship between game prices going up and any specific employee getting a raise or bonus.

Of course it's not a 1-1 relationship otherwise game prices would go up every year, but the fact is as much as people complain about the "line going up" and record generated revenue, it has to happen to account for me and the rest of the people around me to also be compensated with raises and bonuses constantly because the cost of making the game even with just the same number of people means the cost to make the game goes up every year. So it's wrong to say none of that money is going into the developers hands or that developers aren't being paid more when we do see some of that money.

You might've got a raise and bonus even if the price didn't go up. There's people who get a raise or a bonus even if they released cheaper stuff or their company didn't do as well as before.

I get a raise every year, for 10 years now and my company goes up and down like a yo-yo.

But how is that sustainable to pay people more every year when your revenue is static or even going down every year? At some point it won't be so the revenue generated has to go up regardless to offset the higher costs at some point for the company to remain healthy. Even if you have good and bad years so it's a yo-yo, the general direction means it has to go up over time even if it is not every year. Just because things are done in periodic chunks doesn't mean it isn't necessary to offset the rising costs over a period of time.

Broadly speaking, developers are getting paid more each year.

You can argue that they don't get paid enough for their skill set.

But its true that in most cases their salary does go up on an annual basis.

Yep, this.

I edited my post to clarify more. What you're describing, you being at a company for a period of time and getting periodic merit increases is just the normal part of any business really. You're becoming more senior and getting paid more. There are juniors starting up, other people leaving and so on. What you're describing isn't related to game prices, directly.

But again, people complain about the line going up, but it has to in order for me to get paid more over time. I don't expect a company to make less than before or to lose money in order to pay me more. So revenue has to go up over time so that me and everyone else around me is paid more. Where that revenue comes from is from multiple ways but a periodic increase in price is one way to make sure the revenue does go up. Since the change from $60 to $70, a 16% price difference, my salary has gone up more than 16%. That money has to come from somewhere.

Oh my god, shut up.

But again, people complain about the line going up, but it has to in order for me to get paid more over time. I don't expect a company to make less than before or to lose money in order to pay me more. So revenue has to go up over time so that me and everyone else around me is paid more. Where that revenue comes from is from multiple ways but a periodic increase in price is one way to make sure the revenue does go up. Since the change from $60 to $70, a 16% price difference, my salary has gone up more than 16%. That money has to come from somewhere.

I think there is a simpler answer to this, which is: redistribute your company's salaries. Redistributing even a small part of the greedy money-grabbing CEOs and their ilk's wealth with company workers would actually allow to get you paid more, instead of raising prices to consumers. We know this because it's backed up by data, their profits have and continue to raise up by videogame sales revenue every year (and to a disproportionate degree, I'm sure). Why do you think they would still be in this industry otherwise? They are insanely rich.

We should be pushing for that and for more workplace democracy and worker's control of the means of production, instead of tricking ourselves and naively hope that paying more and generating even more revenue for the CEOs, who by the way thanks to this they lead a lifestyle which is polluting our world and are actively supporting and empowering fascists, will eventually be better for the workers too.

THANK 👏 YOU 👏

I looked up a CEO:

EA CEO Andrew Wilson received $31 million in cash and stock awards for the 12 months ending March 31, 2025

I'll make this easy by assuming it's all cash and thus easy to divide by the 14,500 employees. The same anti-CEO article says:

EA reported that the median income for its full-time employees in 2024 was $117,000

This means each employee will now make $119,000. I should note that amount is significantly above the yearly wage from those people NameUser knows and probably should be mostly confiscated and distributed to them.

[Uncle]

It's not anti-consumer. You want developers to get paid more? You want better graphics than we had in the last game? You want huge open worlds with tons of side content? Guess what? All that shit costs money.

10 minutes later

edit: I give up, nevermind

It's exploitation

I don't want better graphics, I want better gameplay and better storytelling

I have had some of the best gaming experiences of my life on minimal graphics (dwarf fortress, rimworld, FTL, minecraft with friends back in the day, valheim, etc etc)

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

The vote with your wallet thing don't even work mane. For every "vote with my wallet" id do there's bout 100 ppl per thread just on this site alone going they'd even pay $100 lol. So you pretty much priced outta ya hobby. Sucks but it is what it is

it's called integrity. I know, you really wanted to play the Wizard game but those chuddies kept buying it! But you didn't! Trans blood isn't on your hands!

[benji]

It's fun reading threads like those because everyone is assuming everyone's situation is like theirs no matter how far it diverges from the norm. We know statistically that Era posters are increasingly nearing 40, have mostly only ever worked service/retail jobs and do not pursue typical professional advancement, and their expenses have therefore outpaced their wages because their parents stopped subsidizing them as much. This is entirely why $80 prices crunch them and the $60 ones 20 years ago didn't. Yet they're trying to ascribe it to macroeconomic trends.

"It's greedflation!" My dudes, you know how much Super Mario 64's MSRP would be in today's dollars? $125.

Spoiler: top of the page Toys R Us ad (click to show)(click to hide)

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

59.99?! HOLY FUCK WHATS WRONG WITH NINTENDO!

[benji]

59.99?! HOLY FUCK WHATS WRONG WITH NINTENDO!

[Boredfrom]

Being fair, I think Nintendo is genuinely being both greedy and cheap this generation.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

this is a literal genocide and benji is laughing

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Being fair, I think Rumi and Mira would make a great wlw couple.

[Uncle]

Being fair, I think Nintendo is genuinely being both greedy and cheap this generation.

greep

[Boredfrom]

Why the fuck Nintendo want me to buy a shit plastic accessory just to play Virtual Boy games.  

In a service already pay for.

[Propagandhim]

When Street fighter 2 first released on SNES it was about 90 bucks in America.  I remember my dad paying 150,000 lire for it (a little over 100 usd for the time) and it was a huge deal.  That's like $220 today   Today you can just watch anything you want for free, play free-to-play games or play thousands of games for cheap, even new ones if you wait a little bit.  Everything is a million times better than it used to be for consumer entertainment, aside from the fact that things did seem a lot more interesting and novel back when gaming was relatively new and they were still developing genres.  Complaining about everything is their personality trait, everything is better, but they have to remain miserable no matter what.



edit: Oh SF2 was like $80 in America.  It was Phantasy Star 4 that was like $90.  Always get those two crazy prices confused.

[Uncle]

seriously, companies asking high prices for games should all consider themselves in a precarious position, but they don't have to be because of all the SHEEPLE who will just buy whatever comes out no matter what

like I said before you could literally watch youtube for free for the rest of your life, or play all the free games from Epic or Steam on rotation, or get into 4x/simulation gaming and play one single game for an entire year without breaking a sweat

[Taco Bell Tower]

I've paid 70 dollars for a game exactly once (Alan Wake 2), and that was because I had a gift card.

Anything above 60 mean's I'll skip the game for a year or two until it's 10-20 bucks.

[Boredfrom]

like I said before you could literally watch youtube for free for the rest of your life,

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/7QtPzW9AM6

[Polident]

Thrilled this page is discussing the plight of the most vulnerable people in society: gamers

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

the charlie kirk thread slowed down. I guess the excitement is over for Era. 

Trans GF? Liberal? Ugh, not cool to talk about anymore.