Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[simiansmarts]

You gotta lighten up, Nintex. You sound like a doomer on Twitter.

[FUME5]

Benji, your website has shit the bed on firefox again.

[Shecky Fragbaum]

If only fell on his head, maybe it'd stop him from being a zionist piece of shit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sen-john-fetterman-hospitalized-after-fall-near-his-home.1352977/page-3#post-147655801

These people are so fucking demented

Denied a gravedance, the goons begrudgingly settle for a slip-n-fall dance.

[Straight Edge]

Fuck Marry Kill
Potato Uncle Boredfrom

[books]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/#post-147633097


I’d literally kill to sit in on a messy and echoes therapy session

I’d literally kill myself if messy ever offered me therapy.

reminds me of this time a hobo handed me a dollar 

Hobo once cradled me like a baby in downtown LA when I passed out and cracked my head while smoking some weed in an alley by a punk club. Maybe the hobos are the messyegos we met along the way.

[HaughtyFrank]

Messo: "Have you considered having your parents arrange a marriage?"

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-adapt-duels-from-the-yu-gi-oh-manga-into-a-modern-series-live-action-or-animated.1352017/#post-147611665

I've been having a bad few days emotionally so decided to work on one of my many thought exercises I do for myself to past the time; trying to come up with how a Live action Yu-Gi-Oh series would work. As such I've decided to post my thought process on a aspect of this here for like the 3-5 users that probably care or have interest in that (Hi, welcome to Dork City!)

One of the hardest aspects for me on how to adapt YGO is the duels; even if the adaptation isn't live action and just an updated anime or an anime that tries to more faithfully adapt the original manga (like not skipping over the first three arcs, keeping the original deaths and not imply Dark Yugi cheats his duel (he doesn't in the manga, he always duels fairly compared to many of his opponents) to justify it's own filler BS nonsense), the duels are always the big sticking point for me in how you go around adapting them for a number of reasons.

Do you keep them as is? Do you try to update them with more consistent rules (I'll get to that)? Do you modernize them to be more like the Modern YGO card game?

My main issues are (for reference, most of this discussion is going to be about the three main original pre-Duellist Kingdom duels, Dark Yugi vs Kaiba (School), Dark Yugi vs Kaiba (Death-T) and Yugi vs Pegasus (TV) as these have been the three duels that have been the focus of my work):

1. What do you even call it:
One thing non-Manga fans might not be aware of is that "Duel Monsters" is not the original name of the card game in-universe, that was Magic & Wizards. Do you keep the original name or rename it to it's more modern and more well-known name?

2. Pacing:
One of the biggest issue when modifying the duels is pacing. The last thing you want to do is cause the the duels which are perfectly paced in the original manga to feel sluggish or feel bad to watch. We saw this happen in the anime with some of the Battle City duels which got stretched with additions (or changes to the duels like making it so tribute summoned monsters can attack on the turn they are summoned).

Another aspect to this is that you can end up hurting the duellists themselves in the process (like how the pacing and additions in Battle City made Marik look like an even worse duellists, especially during the Mai duel). The last thing you want to do is making the villains like Kaiba and Pegasus look like worse duellist.

3. Contradictions with the later manga:

One thing about the early duels that can be a bit confusing for those more familiar with the card game or the later anime is that sometimes the cards don't work like they do in the real-life card game. This isn't an issue for the most part (it's not like Kazuki Takahashi could predict the rules of a card game adaptation of his work that wouldn't come out till years later and played by different rules originally, no matter how much western fans blame him for not "following the rules" because they don't understand how time works), but then there is a bit of an issue when it comes to times when the manga contradicts itself.

One of the biggest cases of this are the rules around Swords of Revealing Light where during it's original appearances in Death-T, it only trapped the enemy's current monsters for three turns, allowing Kaiba to just summon other monsters and attack Yugi; which contradicts later use of the card where it blocks ALL of the enemy's monsters for three turns, regardless of when they were summoned.

The second one is how Summoned Daemon/Skull's attacks work, in the Yugi vs Pegasus duel, he's a physical fighter which results in Yugi not having enough time to do the final blow (resulting in his grandpa's soul being trapped in the video tape which why did the anime version remove that aspect?) yet it's a plot point in the very next duel against Haga that Summoned Daemon uses lightning powers... Which you know would have completely altered the outcome of the previous duel.

So what do you do? Do you change the Death-T duel so that Swords of Revealing Light and Summoned Daemon works the same way it does every other appearance (Interestingly, the anime just kept these contradictions in without any explanation)? The Problem then is that you go back to the issue of pacing because doing that alters the duel.

4. The Rules issue:
This seems to be the biggest sore spot for people who get pissed of the early duels in the manga and anime don't follow the "rules" of the real world card game based on them. So what do you do, change the duels to match the real-world card game or keep them as is. The biggest issue is that if you do the former then you the issue of making a plot hole much later for Battle City where Kaiba introduces many of those rules (like Sacrificing) with the "Super Expert" rules and once again, you have the issue of completely messing with the pacing of the duels and having to re-write them so say Kaiba can summon all three of the Blue-Eyes White Dragons (especially given it makes zero sense for their to be Blue-Eyes specific cards existing in a world where only 4 Blue-Eyes are supposed to exist in the world).

The other issue and one the anime itself had issues with are rules the Manga had that don't exist anywhere else, including later manga like YGO-R like the Card game's magic system, gender mechanics or unique types of Card-types like Virus-Types (which for the anime and card game got changed into just being Trap cards). Do you remove these oddities like the anime did or keep them in place? It's actually quite fascinating when it comes to the Yugi vs Pegasus round 1 duel just how much the anime cuts out to avoid these rule oddities, with the entire middle portion of the duel removed so Yugi never uses Baby Dragon, Great White or Undead Warrior and Pegasus never uses Eleckids or Rogue Doll.

Then you have issues where Konami completely changed how some cards worked which would completely botch up the manga duels, aka poor Jou/Joey getting most of his Duellist Kingdom heavy hitters fucked up because Konami randomly decided to make Flame Swordsman and several others into very useless fusion cards. Do you just go fuck it and ignore Konami mess or make them fusion cards in-universe... Which itself is an issue because fusion monsters (along with rituals) weren't actual cards for pre-Battle City (and making them actual cards then fucks up the Yugi vs Kaiba (Duellist Kingdom) duel).

Side note, I always found the Toei anime's take on the card game very interesting as it did heavily modify the duels (along with changing the outcome of one of them to make Kaiba look more evil) so that the table-top game better matched what we would later see in Duellist Kingdom, with the playing mat having a map on it so you could have field bonuses.

5. The Prototype issue:

This is something I've noticed when really analysing the early duels, it becomes clear that a few of the early one-shot monsters used by Yugi are prototypes of more popular later recurring monsters. The most obvious case of this is with Devil/Koumori Dragon who in the manga is pretty obviously an early version of Curse of Dragon as Yugi during the first Pegasus duel states he plans to fuse them with the unseen "Dragon Knight" before Pegasus stops him. This is clearly set up for the concept of fusions... But when it actually happens, Devil Dragon has been changed to Curse of Dragon and Dragon Knight replaced with Gaia the Dark Knight (who interestingly had already appeared in Death-T).

So when it comes to these cases, do you replace the one-shots with their more famous and popular recurring ones (especially in the context of a live-action work where budget would likely to be more of an issue)? Kuriboh is a bit of an issue if you replace Critter/Sangan with them due to Kuriboh's effect (then again Critter's latter effect isn't brought up either; and Critter has a bit of fanbase in their own right).

6. The No-Name Monsters:

Another aspect of early Yu-Gi-Oh is that in the early duels, we also get to see many monsters that never appear again, not just the manga, but in nearly all of the franchise as they were never adapted into the anime or the card game. Most would only appear as cards in long shots or in single panels. One of the funniest ones for me is Yugi's Chimera (seen above) who of course is NOT meant to be Chimaera the Winged Phantom Beast monster Yugi would use regularly during Battle City.

The anime (both the Toei and the Duel Monsters anime) trimmed most of these guys out (though the Toei anime instead chose to give Yugi more random monsters while also cutting Black Magician entirely from his deck), either by removing those shots or replacing them with cards that did get cards in the real-world card game. I actually like the look of some of these no-names so I've always wondered whether to keep them or remove them like anime?

7. Undermining the important scenes and monsters:

The last issue with adapting the early duels is that you don't want to undermine the stars of the duels, the monsters. After all you don't want people scratching their heads as to why Blue-Eyes White Dragon is considered such a rare and important card if you include retrains and other later monsters that take the piss out of the normal monster. Why would Exodia be considered Yugi's last hope if you give him way more options in defeating Kaiba?

Same with how Minotaur/Battle-Ox in the very duel is considered a massive powerhouse that shreds through Yugi's deck before being stopped by Holy/Mystical Elf and Summoned Daemon (Yugi's first main); like in modern terms, Minotaur is a nothing monster. Hell same with Saggi in the Death-T duel, it's kind of hard to believe Saggi would have caused Yugi as much trouble as they did nowadays knowing the type of monsters Yugi has.

Though of course their is also a bit a reverse when it comes to early Duels when it comes to Black/Dark Magician. While today, Black Magician is considered Yugi's ace monster; it can be surprising to learn that this is not actually the case for quite a while, not appearing in the original duel at all and in their debut in Death-T, isn't given much fanfare and is taken out quicker then even Gaia The Dark Knight... Who IS considered Yugi's second Ace/Main for most of Duellist Kingdom, even named as such; it's not until the Labyrinth Brothers where Black Magician really begins to take his place. Do you change that and given Black Magician more fanfare like what modern fans would expect?

8. How do you visually show off the duels?

This is especially true for a live action work, how do you visually depict them? Do you stylize the monsters or do you just have them being animatronics, people in costumes and CGI? How do you or would differentiate the duels that are meant to be real via the Yami No Games or the ones done via holograms?

This is especially true for Duellist Kingdom which had a very unique system for the duels that bizarrely got removed for the anime version (which then creates massive plot holes), the battle boxes:

Do you keep the Battle Boxes from the Manga or replace them like the anime did with the massive outdoor duel arenas (which leads to issues like how can Jou smell Mai's perfume from so far away or why does Pegasus need to make a deal with Kaiba Corp for their holographic technology if you already has it... And also kind of undermines the duel arena Pegasus has in his castle by making it less special) that the anime opted for?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/

I've been feeling lonely the past few days and I think I'm coming to terms that I'll never date for many reasons.

The big one is being trans, specifically being trans in a VERY conservative area (it's really depressing just how much support Reform UK has here and how open some people are with it), where I'm unable to transition (and unable to afford to), I have massive body issues (I feel ugly) about myself; and I just don't feel safe being openly trans, both locally or anywhere in the UK right now. Like even in progressive circles, it feels so easy to find a TERF or someone willing to play softball about the Labour party, downplaying their transphobia as being not too bad or "It would have been worse under the Tories!"

I have massive social anxiety and can't flirt for shit. While I've tried to improve myself, I just don't feel comfortable talking to people in public, like I get freaked out when people ask me for directions, no way would I be good company on a date. Plus that along with my depression makes me feel like I'd be considered to pathetic to date; not going to lie, despite the kind words of a few users here, dating threads on ERA make me depressed and miserable because it makes it clear that if you're a shy introvert or have issues like depression, you're deemed "low standards"

I'm in my early 30s at this point and just don't think I have it in me to date, I already feel stressed with work, family, social anxiety, the Government and seeing society slowly more and more turn against me and others for the crime of existing and being trans, I just don't think I can date.

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[benji]

Have you considered that perhaps you are not good at making pornography?

Maybe don't post transphobic shit like this on The Bire?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

 

He did it to protect the Clinton's and because he's in the pocket of Israel out of pure ideology and blowing up their best vector of kompromat 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/epstein-alleged-in-emails-that-trump-knew-of-his-conduct.1351006/page-21#post-147647374

User banned (1 month): History of posting conspiracy theories

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/#post-147615619

A couple things -

I'm a trans woman who came out in her early 30s (there is a thread on this forum where my egg cracked lol), for many reasons I thought I'd never be able to transition well and it was quite terrifying irl for a good 6 months after I began socially transitioning, but I am a good 16 months into HRT now and I'm more or less an attractive, passing woman and it feels completely wonderful. I would say tell the world to fuck off and just start transitioning to the best of your ability!

Secondly, I am literally in a relationship now with another trans woman who hadn't been with another partner for 12 years previously (who may also post here 👀), particularly within the trans community there are likely many people who will empathize with you and have potential romantic feelings for you.

Do not let the weight of the world get in the way of your happiness, it is obtainable for you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/#post-147640900

i had some bad relationships and didn't date for uhhhh like 12 years or so? but then after i started being more comfortable with my gender i simply talked to people on discord who i had known about more and was more open to the concept of relationships so i have kind of fallen into a couple relationships pretty easily lately. idk, it does benefit to have a pool of people with shared interests to work with, at least for me. but then before that dead period (and after) i always flirted a lot so maybe it's not that relatable

Egg cracking thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-i-tell-if-im-trans.916695/

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-this-week-fucking-sucked-for-anyone-else.1353316/page-2#post-147663628

My therapist gave up on me/doesn't want to work with me after 5 years. So this week I've spent disassociating.

The brightside is I barely noticed it was Thursday and down 4 pounds due to depression.

How much of a spazz do you have to be for a therapist to give up?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/and-so-it-begins-gop-darling-megyn-kelly-defends-pedophilia-theres-a-big-difference-between-15-and-5.1352983/page-9#post-147664327

As I said before....I'm not interested in sharing this country with these "people" voting rights & citizenship must be revoked at least....fuck off somewhere else! None of the back to normal bullshit!

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-this-week-fucking-sucked-for-anyone-else.1353316/page-2#post-147663628

My therapist gave up on me/doesn't want to work with me after 5 years. So this week I've spent disassociating.

The brightside is I barely noticed it was Thursday and down 4 pounds due to depression.

How much of a spazz do you have to be for a therapist to give up?

Messy would never give up on his clients

[books]

Perhaps one of you good folkx should subscribe to his pornography, for laffs.

[Potato]

pussysmasher

I'm working on levels here

He's good looking (or was) so he could get pussy but he also is a pussy 
 

PlaSma PusSma

[Potato]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/#post-147615619

A couple things -

I'm a trans woman who came out in her early 30s (there is a thread on this forum where my egg cracked lol), for many reasons I thought I'd never be able to transition well and it was quite terrifying irl for a good 6 months after I began socially transitioning, but I am a good 16 months into HRT now and I'm more or less an attractive, passing woman and it feels completely wonderful. I would say tell the world to fuck off and just start transitioning to the best of your ability!

Secondly, I am literally in a relationship now with another trans woman who hadn't been with another partner for 12 years previously (who may also post here 👀), particularly within the trans community there are likely many people who will empathize with you and have potential romantic feelings for you.

Do not let the weight of the world get in the way of your happiness, it is obtainable for you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/#post-147640900

i had some bad relationships and didn't date for uhhhh like 12 years or so? but then after i started being more comfortable with my gender i simply talked to people on discord who i had known about more and was more open to the concept of relationships so i have kind of fallen into a couple relationships pretty easily lately. idk, it does benefit to have a pool of people with shared interests to work with, at least for me. but then before that dead period (and after) i always flirted a lot so maybe it's not that relatable

Egg cracking thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-i-tell-if-im-trans.916695/

This is why they insist on keeping up the facade that they're "real women" because if they don't they have to face up to the fact that maybe they were just gay and that wasn't giving them the attention they craved...

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-this-week-fucking-sucked-for-anyone-else.1353316/page-2#post-147663628

My therapist gave up on me/doesn't want to work with me after 5 years. So this week I've spent disassociating.

The brightside is I barely noticed it was Thursday and down 4 pounds due to depression.

How much of a spazz do you have to be for a therapist to give up?

Messy would never give up on his clients

He doesn’t give up even when a court orders him to. He really digs in!

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98christy%E2%80%99-christy-martin-biopic-starring-sydney-sweeney-bombs-with-one-of-the-worst-ow-for-movie-released-in-2000-theaters.1348324/page-7#post-147666199

Yeah. I think she'll maybe get in at the Golden Globes, but I don't think she makes it in at the Oscar's.

She's already got a couple of those. 

[Jeff_at_the_laughfactory]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-adapt-duels-from-the-yu-gi-oh-manga-into-a-modern-series-live-action-or-animated.1352017/#post-147611665

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I've been having a bad few days emotionally so decided to work on one of my many thought exercises I do for myself to past the time; trying to come up with how a Live action Yu-Gi-Oh series would work. As such I've decided to post my thought process on a aspect of this here for like the 3-5 users that probably care or have interest in that (Hi, welcome to Dork City!)

One of the hardest aspects for me on how to adapt YGO is the duels; even if the adaptation isn't live action and just an updated anime or an anime that tries to more faithfully adapt the original manga (like not skipping over the first three arcs, keeping the original deaths and not imply Dark Yugi cheats his duel (he doesn't in the manga, he always duels fairly compared to many of his opponents) to justify it's own filler BS nonsense), the duels are always the big sticking point for me in how you go around adapting them for a number of reasons.

Do you keep them as is? Do you try to update them with more consistent rules (I'll get to that)? Do you modernize them to be more like the Modern YGO card game?

My main issues are (for reference, most of this discussion is going to be about the three main original pre-Duellist Kingdom duels, Dark Yugi vs Kaiba (School), Dark Yugi vs Kaiba (Death-T) and Yugi vs Pegasus (TV) as these have been the three duels that have been the focus of my work):

1. What do you even call it:
One thing non-Manga fans might not be aware of is that "Duel Monsters" is not the original name of the card game in-universe, that was Magic & Wizards. Do you keep the original name or rename it to it's more modern and more well-known name?

2. Pacing:
One of the biggest issue when modifying the duels is pacing. The last thing you want to do is cause the the duels which are perfectly paced in the original manga to feel sluggish or feel bad to watch. We saw this happen in the anime with some of the Battle City duels which got stretched with additions (or changes to the duels like making it so tribute summoned monsters can attack on the turn they are summoned).

Another aspect to this is that you can end up hurting the duellists themselves in the process (like how the pacing and additions in Battle City made Marik look like an even worse duellists, especially during the Mai duel). The last thing you want to do is making the villains like Kaiba and Pegasus look like worse duellist.

3. Contradictions with the later manga:

One thing about the early duels that can be a bit confusing for those more familiar with the card game or the later anime is that sometimes the cards don't work like they do in the real-life card game. This isn't an issue for the most part (it's not like Kazuki Takahashi could predict the rules of a card game adaptation of his work that wouldn't come out till years later and played by different rules originally, no matter how much western fans blame him for not "following the rules" because they don't understand how time works), but then there is a bit of an issue when it comes to times when the manga contradicts itself.

One of the biggest cases of this are the rules around Swords of Revealing Light where during it's original appearances in Death-T, it only trapped the enemy's current monsters for three turns, allowing Kaiba to just summon other monsters and attack Yugi; which contradicts later use of the card where it blocks ALL of the enemy's monsters for three turns, regardless of when they were summoned.

The second one is how Summoned Daemon/Skull's attacks work, in the Yugi vs Pegasus duel, he's a physical fighter which results in Yugi not having enough time to do the final blow (resulting in his grandpa's soul being trapped in the video tape which why did the anime version remove that aspect?) yet it's a plot point in the very next duel against Haga that Summoned Daemon uses lightning powers... Which you know would have completely altered the outcome of the previous duel.

So what do you do? Do you change the Death-T duel so that Swords of Revealing Light and Summoned Daemon works the same way it does every other appearance (Interestingly, the anime just kept these contradictions in without any explanation)? The Problem then is that you go back to the issue of pacing because doing that alters the duel.

4. The Rules issue:
This seems to be the biggest sore spot for people who get pissed of the early duels in the manga and anime don't follow the "rules" of the real world card game based on them. So what do you do, change the duels to match the real-world card game or keep them as is. The biggest issue is that if you do the former then you the issue of making a plot hole much later for Battle City where Kaiba introduces many of those rules (like Sacrificing) with the "Super Expert" rules and once again, you have the issue of completely messing with the pacing of the duels and having to re-write them so say Kaiba can summon all three of the Blue-Eyes White Dragons (especially given it makes zero sense for their to be Blue-Eyes specific cards existing in a world where only 4 Blue-Eyes are supposed to exist in the world).

The other issue and one the anime itself had issues with are rules the Manga had that don't exist anywhere else, including later manga like YGO-R like the Card game's magic system, gender mechanics or unique types of Card-types like Virus-Types (which for the anime and card game got changed into just being Trap cards). Do you remove these oddities like the anime did or keep them in place? It's actually quite fascinating when it comes to the Yugi vs Pegasus round 1 duel just how much the anime cuts out to avoid these rule oddities, with the entire middle portion of the duel removed so Yugi never uses Baby Dragon, Great White or Undead Warrior and Pegasus never uses Eleckids or Rogue Doll.

Then you have issues where Konami completely changed how some cards worked which would completely botch up the manga duels, aka poor Jou/Joey getting most of his Duellist Kingdom heavy hitters fucked up because Konami randomly decided to make Flame Swordsman and several others into very useless fusion cards. Do you just go fuck it and ignore Konami mess or make them fusion cards in-universe... Which itself is an issue because fusion monsters (along with rituals) weren't actual cards for pre-Battle City (and making them actual cards then fucks up the Yugi vs Kaiba (Duellist Kingdom) duel).

Side note, I always found the Toei anime's take on the card game very interesting as it did heavily modify the duels (along with changing the outcome of one of them to make Kaiba look more evil) so that the table-top game better matched what we would later see in Duellist Kingdom, with the playing mat having a map on it so you could have field bonuses.

5. The Prototype issue:

This is something I've noticed when really analysing the early duels, it becomes clear that a few of the early one-shot monsters used by Yugi are prototypes of more popular later recurring monsters. The most obvious case of this is with Devil/Koumori Dragon who in the manga is pretty obviously an early version of Curse of Dragon as Yugi during the first Pegasus duel states he plans to fuse them with the unseen "Dragon Knight" before Pegasus stops him. This is clearly set up for the concept of fusions... But when it actually happens, Devil Dragon has been changed to Curse of Dragon and Dragon Knight replaced with Gaia the Dark Knight (who interestingly had already appeared in Death-T).

So when it comes to these cases, do you replace the one-shots with their more famous and popular recurring ones (especially in the context of a live-action work where budget would likely to be more of an issue)? Kuriboh is a bit of an issue if you replace Critter/Sangan with them due to Kuriboh's effect (then again Critter's latter effect isn't brought up either; and Critter has a bit of fanbase in their own right).

6. The No-Name Monsters:

Another aspect of early Yu-Gi-Oh is that in the early duels, we also get to see many monsters that never appear again, not just the manga, but in nearly all of the franchise as they were never adapted into the anime or the card game. Most would only appear as cards in long shots or in single panels. One of the funniest ones for me is Yugi's Chimera (seen above) who of course is NOT meant to be Chimaera the Winged Phantom Beast monster Yugi would use regularly during Battle City.

The anime (both the Toei and the Duel Monsters anime) trimmed most of these guys out (though the Toei anime instead chose to give Yugi more random monsters while also cutting Black Magician entirely from his deck), either by removing those shots or replacing them with cards that did get cards in the real-world card game. I actually like the look of some of these no-names so I've always wondered whether to keep them or remove them like anime?

7. Undermining the important scenes and monsters:

The last issue with adapting the early duels is that you don't want to undermine the stars of the duels, the monsters. After all you don't want people scratching their heads as to why Blue-Eyes White Dragon is considered such a rare and important card if you include retrains and other later monsters that take the piss out of the normal monster. Why would Exodia be considered Yugi's last hope if you give him way more options in defeating Kaiba?

Same with how Minotaur/Battle-Ox in the very duel is considered a massive powerhouse that shreds through Yugi's deck before being stopped by Holy/Mystical Elf and Summoned Daemon (Yugi's first main); like in modern terms, Minotaur is a nothing monster. Hell same with Saggi in the Death-T duel, it's kind of hard to believe Saggi would have caused Yugi as much trouble as they did nowadays knowing the type of monsters Yugi has.

Though of course their is also a bit a reverse when it comes to early Duels when it comes to Black/Dark Magician. While today, Black Magician is considered Yugi's ace monster; it can be surprising to learn that this is not actually the case for quite a while, not appearing in the original duel at all and in their debut in Death-T, isn't given much fanfare and is taken out quicker then even Gaia The Dark Knight... Who IS considered Yugi's second Ace/Main for most of Duellist Kingdom, even named as such; it's not until the Labyrinth Brothers where Black Magician really begins to take his place. Do you change that and given Black Magician more fanfare like what modern fans would expect?

8. How do you visually show off the duels?

This is especially true for a live action work, how do you visually depict them? Do you stylize the monsters or do you just have them being animatronics, people in costumes and CGI? How do you or would differentiate the duels that are meant to be real via the Yami No Games or the ones done via holograms?

This is especially true for Duellist Kingdom which had a very unique system for the duels that bizarrely got removed for the anime version (which then creates massive plot holes), the battle boxes:

Do you keep the Battle Boxes from the Manga or replace them like the anime did with the massive outdoor duel arenas (which leads to issues like how can Jou smell Mai's perfume from so far away or why does Pegasus need to make a deal with Kaiba Corp for their holographic technology if you already has it... And also kind of undermines the duel arena Pegasus has in his castle by making it less special) that the anime opted for?

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I've been feeling lonely the past few days and I think I'm coming to terms that I'll never date for many reasons.

The big one is being trans, specifically being trans in a VERY conservative area (it's really depressing just how much support Reform UK has here and how open some people are with it), where I'm unable to transition (and unable to afford to), I have massive body issues (I feel ugly) about myself; and I just don't feel safe being openly trans, both locally or anywhere in the UK right now. Like even in progressive circles, it feels so easy to find a TERF or someone willing to play softball about the Labour party, downplaying their transphobia as being not too bad or "It would have been worse under the Tories!"

I have massive social anxiety and can't flirt for shit. While I've tried to improve myself, I just don't feel comfortable talking to people in public, like I get freaked out when people ask me for directions, no way would I be good company on a date. Plus that along with my depression makes me feel like I'd be considered to pathetic to date; not going to lie, despite the kind words of a few users here, dating threads on ERA make me depressed and miserable because it makes it clear that if you're a shy introvert or have issues like depression, you're deemed "low standards"

I'm in my early 30s at this point and just don't think I have it in me to date, I already feel stressed with work, family, social anxiety, the Government and seeing society slowly more and more turn against me and others for the crime of existing and being trans, I just don't think I can date.

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Hey, ERA’s staff, cuddling Echoes will not help him and Messy is probably the last person that should give love advice.

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Feels weird to have that in the thread at all, even using spoiler tags.

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It's a pretty wholesome tradition tbf.

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I've been having a bad few days emotionally so decided to work on one of my many thought exercises I do for myself to past the time; trying to come up with how a Live action Yu-Gi-Oh series would work. As such I've decided to post my thought process on a aspect of this here for like the 3-5 users that probably care or have interest in that (Hi, welcome to Dork City!)

One of the hardest aspects for me on how to adapt YGO is the duels; even if the adaptation isn't live action and just an updated anime or an anime that tries to more faithfully adapt the original manga (like not skipping over the first three arcs, keeping the original deaths and not imply Dark Yugi cheats his duel (he doesn't in the manga, he always duels fairly compared to many of his opponents) to justify it's own filler BS nonsense), the duels are always the big sticking point for me in how you go around adapting them for a number of reasons.

Do you keep them as is? Do you try to update them with more consistent rules (I'll get to that)? Do you modernize them to be more like the Modern YGO card game?

My main issues are (for reference, most of this discussion is going to be about the three main original pre-Duellist Kingdom duels, Dark Yugi vs Kaiba (School), Dark Yugi vs Kaiba (Death-T) and Yugi vs Pegasus (TV) as these have been the three duels that have been the focus of my work):

1. What do you even call it:
One thing non-Manga fans might not be aware of is that "Duel Monsters" is not the original name of the card game in-universe, that was Magic & Wizards. Do you keep the original name or rename it to it's more modern and more well-known name?

2. Pacing:
One of the biggest issue when modifying the duels is pacing. The last thing you want to do is cause the the duels which are perfectly paced in the original manga to feel sluggish or feel bad to watch. We saw this happen in the anime with some of the Battle City duels which got stretched with additions (or changes to the duels like making it so tribute summoned monsters can attack on the turn they are summoned).

Another aspect to this is that you can end up hurting the duellists themselves in the process (like how the pacing and additions in Battle City made Marik look like an even worse duellists, especially during the Mai duel). The last thing you want to do is making the villains like Kaiba and Pegasus look like worse duellist.

3. Contradictions with the later manga:

One thing about the early duels that can be a bit confusing for those more familiar with the card game or the later anime is that sometimes the cards don't work like they do in the real-life card game. This isn't an issue for the most part (it's not like Kazuki Takahashi could predict the rules of a card game adaptation of his work that wouldn't come out till years later and played by different rules originally, no matter how much western fans blame him for not "following the rules" because they don't understand how time works), but then there is a bit of an issue when it comes to times when the manga contradicts itself.

One of the biggest cases of this are the rules around Swords of Revealing Light where during it's original appearances in Death-T, it only trapped the enemy's current monsters for three turns, allowing Kaiba to just summon other monsters and attack Yugi; which contradicts later use of the card where it blocks ALL of the enemy's monsters for three turns, regardless of when they were summoned.

The second one is how Summoned Daemon/Skull's attacks work, in the Yugi vs Pegasus duel, he's a physical fighter which results in Yugi not having enough time to do the final blow (resulting in his grandpa's soul being trapped in the video tape which why did the anime version remove that aspect?) yet it's a plot point in the very next duel against Haga that Summoned Daemon uses lightning powers... Which you know would have completely altered the outcome of the previous duel.

So what do you do? Do you change the Death-T duel so that Swords of Revealing Light and Summoned Daemon works the same way it does every other appearance (Interestingly, the anime just kept these contradictions in without any explanation)? The Problem then is that you go back to the issue of pacing because doing that alters the duel.

4. The Rules issue:
This seems to be the biggest sore spot for people who get pissed of the early duels in the manga and anime don't follow the "rules" of the real world card game based on them. So what do you do, change the duels to match the real-world card game or keep them as is. The biggest issue is that if you do the former then you the issue of making a plot hole much later for Battle City where Kaiba introduces many of those rules (like Sacrificing) with the "Super Expert" rules and once again, you have the issue of completely messing with the pacing of the duels and having to re-write them so say Kaiba can summon all three of the Blue-Eyes White Dragons (especially given it makes zero sense for their to be Blue-Eyes specific cards existing in a world where only 4 Blue-Eyes are supposed to exist in the world).

The other issue and one the anime itself had issues with are rules the Manga had that don't exist anywhere else, including later manga like YGO-R like the Card game's magic system, gender mechanics or unique types of Card-types like Virus-Types (which for the anime and card game got changed into just being Trap cards). Do you remove these oddities like the anime did or keep them in place? It's actually quite fascinating when it comes to the Yugi vs Pegasus round 1 duel just how much the anime cuts out to avoid these rule oddities, with the entire middle portion of the duel removed so Yugi never uses Baby Dragon, Great White or Undead Warrior and Pegasus never uses Eleckids or Rogue Doll.

Then you have issues where Konami completely changed how some cards worked which would completely botch up the manga duels, aka poor Jou/Joey getting most of his Duellist Kingdom heavy hitters fucked up because Konami randomly decided to make Flame Swordsman and several others into very useless fusion cards. Do you just go fuck it and ignore Konami mess or make them fusion cards in-universe... Which itself is an issue because fusion monsters (along with rituals) weren't actual cards for pre-Battle City (and making them actual cards then fucks up the Yugi vs Kaiba (Duellist Kingdom) duel).

Side note, I always found the Toei anime's take on the card game very interesting as it did heavily modify the duels (along with changing the outcome of one of them to make Kaiba look more evil) so that the table-top game better matched what we would later see in Duellist Kingdom, with the playing mat having a map on it so you could have field bonuses.

5. The Prototype issue:

This is something I've noticed when really analysing the early duels, it becomes clear that a few of the early one-shot monsters used by Yugi are prototypes of more popular later recurring monsters. The most obvious case of this is with Devil/Koumori Dragon who in the manga is pretty obviously an early version of Curse of Dragon as Yugi during the first Pegasus duel states he plans to fuse them with the unseen "Dragon Knight" before Pegasus stops him. This is clearly set up for the concept of fusions... But when it actually happens, Devil Dragon has been changed to Curse of Dragon and Dragon Knight replaced with Gaia the Dark Knight (who interestingly had already appeared in Death-T).

So when it comes to these cases, do you replace the one-shots with their more famous and popular recurring ones (especially in the context of a live-action work where budget would likely to be more of an issue)? Kuriboh is a bit of an issue if you replace Critter/Sangan with them due to Kuriboh's effect (then again Critter's latter effect isn't brought up either; and Critter has a bit of fanbase in their own right).

6. The No-Name Monsters:

Another aspect of early Yu-Gi-Oh is that in the early duels, we also get to see many monsters that never appear again, not just the manga, but in nearly all of the franchise as they were never adapted into the anime or the card game. Most would only appear as cards in long shots or in single panels. One of the funniest ones for me is Yugi's Chimera (seen above) who of course is NOT meant to be Chimaera the Winged Phantom Beast monster Yugi would use regularly during Battle City.

The anime (both the Toei and the Duel Monsters anime) trimmed most of these guys out (though the Toei anime instead chose to give Yugi more random monsters while also cutting Black Magician entirely from his deck), either by removing those shots or replacing them with cards that did get cards in the real-world card game. I actually like the look of some of these no-names so I've always wondered whether to keep them or remove them like anime?

7. Undermining the important scenes and monsters:

The last issue with adapting the early duels is that you don't want to undermine the stars of the duels, the monsters. After all you don't want people scratching their heads as to why Blue-Eyes White Dragon is considered such a rare and important card if you include retrains and other later monsters that take the piss out of the normal monster. Why would Exodia be considered Yugi's last hope if you give him way more options in defeating Kaiba?

Same with how Minotaur/Battle-Ox in the very duel is considered a massive powerhouse that shreds through Yugi's deck before being stopped by Holy/Mystical Elf and Summoned Daemon (Yugi's first main); like in modern terms, Minotaur is a nothing monster. Hell same with Saggi in the Death-T duel, it's kind of hard to believe Saggi would have caused Yugi as much trouble as they did nowadays knowing the type of monsters Yugi has.

Though of course their is also a bit a reverse when it comes to early Duels when it comes to Black/Dark Magician. While today, Black Magician is considered Yugi's ace monster; it can be surprising to learn that this is not actually the case for quite a while, not appearing in the original duel at all and in their debut in Death-T, isn't given much fanfare and is taken out quicker then even Gaia The Dark Knight... Who IS considered Yugi's second Ace/Main for most of Duellist Kingdom, even named as such; it's not until the Labyrinth Brothers where Black Magician really begins to take his place. Do you change that and given Black Magician more fanfare like what modern fans would expect?

8. How do you visually show off the duels?

This is especially true for a live action work, how do you visually depict them? Do you stylize the monsters or do you just have them being animatronics, people in costumes and CGI? How do you or would differentiate the duels that are meant to be real via the Yami No Games or the ones done via holograms?

This is especially true for Duellist Kingdom which had a very unique system for the duels that bizarrely got removed for the anime version (which then creates massive plot holes), the battle boxes:

Do you keep the Battle Boxes from the Manga or replace them like the anime did with the massive outdoor duel arenas (which leads to issues like how can Jou smell Mai's perfume from so far away or why does Pegasus need to make a deal with Kaiba Corp for their holographic technology if you already has it... And also kind of undermines the duel arena Pegasus has in his castle by making it less special) that the anime opted for?

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A couple things -

I'm a trans woman who came out in her early 30s (there is a thread on this forum where my egg cracked lol), for many reasons I thought I'd never be able to transition well and it was quite terrifying irl for a good 6 months after I began socially transitioning, but I am a good 16 months into HRT now and I'm more or less an attractive, passing woman and it feels completely wonderful. I would say tell the world to fuck off and just start transitioning to the best of your ability!

Secondly, I am literally in a relationship now with another trans woman who hadn't been with another partner for 12 years previously (who may also post here 👀), particularly within the trans community there are likely many people who will empathize with you and have potential romantic feelings for you.

Do not let the weight of the world get in the way of your happiness, it is obtainable for you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/#post-147640900

i had some bad relationships and didn't date for uhhhh like 12 years or so? but then after i started being more comfortable with my gender i simply talked to people on discord who i had known about more and was more open to the concept of relationships so i have kind of fallen into a couple relationships pretty easily lately. idk, it does benefit to have a pool of people with shared interests to work with, at least for me. but then before that dead period (and after) i always flirted a lot so maybe it's not that relatable

Egg cracking thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-i-tell-if-im-trans.916695/

This is why they insist on keeping up the facade that they're "real women" because if they don't they have to face up to the fact that maybe they were just gay and that wasn't giving them the attention they craved...

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I've been feeling lonely the past few days and I think I'm coming to terms that I'll never date for many reasons.

The big one is being trans, specifically being trans in a VERY conservative area (it's really depressing just how much support Reform UK has here and how open some people are with it), where I'm unable to transition (and unable to afford to), I have massive body issues (I feel ugly) about myself; and I just don't feel safe being openly trans, both locally or anywhere in the UK right now. Like even in progressive circles, it feels so easy to find a TERF or someone willing to play softball about the Labour party, downplaying their transphobia as being not too bad or "It would have been worse under the Tories!"

I have massive social anxiety and can't flirt for shit. While I've tried to improve myself, I just don't feel comfortable talking to people in public, like I get freaked out when people ask me for directions, no way would I be good company on a date. Plus that along with my depression makes me feel like I'd be considered to pathetic to date; not going to lie, despite the kind words of a few users here, dating threads on ERA make me depressed and miserable because it makes it clear that if you're a shy introvert or have issues like depression, you're deemed "low standards"

I'm in my early 30s at this point and just don't think I have it in me to date, I already feel stressed with work, family, social anxiety, the Government and seeing society slowly more and more turn against me and others for the crime of existing and being trans, I just don't think I can date.

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[Nintex]

Messo: "Have you considered having your parents arrange a marriage?"

It's a pretty wholesome tradition tbf.

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This is probably a better system than what we have now.

"I need a REAL man with funny to step up who wants to be responsible for 3 kids (pregnant with 4th), earns at least $2m a year (hair, travel, groceries, car) is emotionally available, not a workaholic, take me through Africa in a camper van. Lifts 200lbs. Is not needy. respects me. Believes in god and no sex before marriage. Must be loyal in an open relationship. Shares my values and believes. My ex(not the father) was a narcissist"

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Echoes is feeling stressed with work? By work does he mean posting about yu gi oh?

[Nintex]

tired from draining their balls with wholesome wlw content and pokeporn

I think that whenever they highlight the text with pink and a big font that's when they climax.