Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Uncle]

I’m not going to pay Suda for a less effort sequel of a free to play game.

era likes to say shit like "there are no lazy devs! we have banned lazy devs rhetoric, simply making a completed game proves that you could not have been lazy at any time in the process!" and then turns around and starts screeching about how AI is incredibly lazy

but there have ALWAYS been tools that have been massive time saving shortcuts in the process of creation, even using photoshop is "cheating" compared to traditional painting, where you have exactly one layer and cannot erase from under what you've already painted

is it lazy or just efficient?

the truth is that you have no way of measuring the effort that goes into any product

there are probably lots of popular, good games where at least a handful of employees put in minimum effort

and there are probably lots of games that use AI, where the AI was used so that they could better focus their limited time and energy to more important things, to the benefit of the game

[Boredfrom]

is it lazy or just efficient?

Lazy.

Play the OG Let it Die. Is free, unlike this. But there was effort.

the truth is that you have no way of measuring the effort that goes into any product

and there are probably lots of games that use AI, where the AI was used so that they could better focus their limited time and energy to more important things, to the benefit of the game

15 dollars name cards made by AI.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Potato cannot read:

And most likely not just because they're scholars but because they're people.

To be fair though, Potato is a monster.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Thread is now members only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/where-would-you-place-yourself-on-the-political-spectrum-poll-inside.1366291/

Went from delulu "well meant" liberal to communist in the past few years. Reading black Marxists to decolonise my brain was hitting harder than all the drugs I've tried in my life.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I'm an anarchist.

said the pretend cop.

[Orange Juice Box]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/charlie-kirk-and-the-conservative-death-cult-f-d-signifier-up-demonetized-by-youtube-and-made-private-available-on-nebula.1366162/
A NepNep thread

Nebula Link

Your local, tired Internet uncle is back with another video essay. The video is not just a look back on the life and death of Charlie Kirk and the numerous contradictions that underpin his career and killing, but specifically about how the outward violence and self-destructive tendencies inherent within the American conservative movement and white masculine identity are both predictably repeating from history and also being amplified underneath the current paradigm of capitalism. There are pre-emptive apologies for a flippancy and lack of sympathy regarding things like mass shootings and the male loneliness crisis, but again unc is tired so be forewarned that this is not excessively sympathetic in the ways that might be typical here. It also ends with a minute but notable call to action to you- specifically to white people- to start actually addressing these issues within your communities instead of leaving to gentrify ours. Happy Thanksgiving.

Your tired uncle wants to talk to you about Charlie Kirk.  In what world is that supposed to motivate me to watch a 90 minute youtube video?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-todays-the-day-the-era-users-had-a-picnic.1367806

AND YES YOU HAVE TO GO, YOU HAVE NO CHOICE (Sorry introverts!)!!!

So in this setting where the mods and Admins can afford to travel us all to the woods on one fine Summer day, it's the day! THE DAY THAT ERA HAS IT'S ANNUAL PICNIC!!!!

The Staff have rented out a lodge for the Weekend (Friday night to Monday morning), everyone has a rustic cabin to themselves (no TV).

Their is big picnic table full of food such as Millionaire's Shortbread, ginger nuts, Rich Tea, Jammy Dodgers, chocolate bourbon, custard creams, classic Digestives, Pink Wafers and Empire biscuits; along with some soothing teas (hot and cold), ginger beer, cream code, lemonade. and fruit drinks, sandwiches (Egg mayo, Vegan bacon, Cheese & Pickle, Ploughman, Vegan Triple Cheese, Cheese and Onion, Brie and Cranberry and Falafel and Hummus), Croissants, Croissants, Couscous, Coleslaw, potato salad, vol-au-vents, vegan chipolatas, pineapple chunks, cheese chunks, vegan sausage rolls, onion bhajis, mixed nuts, Vegan quiche, vegan gyozas, breaded mushrooms, samosas, pakoras, falafels, dips, apple pie, rhubarb crumble, cheesecake, black forest gateau, red velvet cake, chocolate cake, custard, trifle, truffles, bonbons, fresh fruit and veg, yams, pineapple chunks, cheddar chunks; and a collection of dips (NO DOUBLE DIPPING, USE THE SPOON) with breadsticks and generic brand tortilla chips.

Everyone is also expected to bring one thing to add to the buffet (preferably home cooked or baked but that's optional).

Their will be fun activities all weekend like Tug of War, Capture the Flag, Hide and Seek, ghost stories, a fashion contest, freeze tag, forest walks, swimming and paintball!

So... WHAT HAPPENS!?!?

CHALLANGE MODE (OPTIONAL):

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Also we are at Crystal Lake and Jason Voorhees is hunting us.

[Boredfrom]

I 100% sure that the new Let it Die will be as janky as the free to play one.

[Uncle]

is it lazy or just efficient?

Lazy.

as a response to what I had just said in that post, about photoshop vs painting?

did you even read what I wrote?

and there are probably lots of games that use AI, where the AI was used so that they could better focus their limited time and energy to more important things, to the benefit of the game

15 dollars name cards made by AI.

yes, exactly my point, if other areas of the game turned out slightly better because they spent less time painting that stuff that was mandated by some dlc bean counter, then it was likely worth it

I genuinely don't care about AI DLC, if people consider it a waste of money then they won't buy it and the company will decide not to use obvious AI to do it next time, but if it still sells then by all means, continue giving people what they seemingly want

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I can't believe Uncle is just out here giving furries the benefit of the doubt.

Tryna beat out filler as the biggest pervert on the bire.

[Boredfrom]

yes, exactly my point, if other areas of the game turned out slightly better because they spent less time painting that stuff that was mandated by some dlc bean counter, then it was likely worth it

  

Jesus, Uncle, WTF.

Holy shit, touch grass.

I genuinely don't care about AI DLC, if people consider it a waste of money then they won't buy it and the company will decide not to use obvious AI to do it next time, but if it still sells then by all means, continue giving people what they seemingly want

THEN DONT JUSTIFY THAT SHIT LIKE A BEAN COUNTER!

[Uncle]

I like how you don't have any logical reason to oppose things like this, just repeating "omg, well I never, by god jesus in heaven, bless my stars, by odin's raven" as if that's meant to convince anyone of anything

[Boredfrom]

I like how…

CALL OF DUTY NEEDS ALL THE RESOURCES THEY ARE A POOR INDIE TEAM  

Logical sense my ass.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-i-just-found-out-netflix-considers-a-household-an-actual-physical-household.1367809/

So I've always shared my account with my mother. She mostly watches linear TV, but likes Netflix too.

Netflix cracked down on password sharing, so I just said, I'd buy an extra seat--the family sharing garbage they instituted a few years ago.

However, she calls saying she's signed out of Netflix. I did some troubleshooting during Thanksgiving, which she hosted, and then some Googling. So, let me get this straight, Netflix cracked down on password sharing. OK. But they added an option of adding another member, but that member has to be your physical household? WTF? This makes no sense at all.

I guess my account didn't have this flag setup until recently since I never had issue. Guess they caught to me.

However, this is completely different from family sharing plans I used with other services. I share stuff with my brother, he's also another physical household but those services don't care--it's a family plan.

I am correct or missing something? I just find this super anti-consumer if true. I've never seen family plan services be so snoopy.

[Boredfrom]

Uncle and DavidCroquet like to pay 15 dollars for some AI images in their CallOfDuty namecards. 

“Is just logical…”

[Boredfrom]

Bean Counter: Make DLC nameplates

Devs: Okay. Let me contact our separate artist team that has worked for us for years, whose talents are necessary to keep the incredible well received CoD 6 multiplayer going.  

BC: Use AI. I will fire those dudes.

Devs: Okay. So it going to be cheaper, nice bonus to save… I mean, celebrate how good is the CoD6 Multiplayer.

BC:  15 dollars  

Devs:  Well, maybe we can save CoD7 with the resource allocation this will make. (  )

BC:  

Devs:  

BC: if they don’t like it then don’t buy it.  

Months later:

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/first-reported-black-ops-7-regional-sales-numbers-are-unimpressive/1100-6536468/

Yes, is not because the AI shit, but pretending that they are trying to use AI to make better products by focusing in other stuff is risible and naive.

[DavidCroquet]

Uncle and DavidCroquet like to pay 15 dollars for some AI images in their CallOfDuty namecards. 

“Is just logical…”

I would NEVER

EVER

EVER

play call of duty.

[Vertigo]

Uh Oh the witch hunt begins.

What games are going to be put to the stake?

Or given a pass because Reeee plays it

https://www.resetera.com/threads/list-of-games-that-use-generative-ai.1367848/

[benji]

Guess what Nazi is (accidentally?) displaying his Nazi funding now?

Spoiler: imgur alternative because imgbb keeps deleting my tweet screenshots (click to show)(click to hide)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

[Boredfrom]

Uh Oh the witch hunt begins.

What games are going to be put to the stake?

Or given a pass because Reeee plays it

https://www.resetera.com/threads/list-of-games-that-use-generative-ai.1367848/

A lot of false positives and someone claiming “not even using it as place holders is okay.”

[HaughtyFrank]

"Help, they're eating the cats and dogs"

"Help, the furries are coming for me"

Make up your mind

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/list-of-games-that-use-generative-ai.1367848/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/

[Uncle]

Uh Oh the witch hunt begins.

What games are going to be put to the stake?

Or given a pass because Reeee plays it

https://www.resetera.com/threads/list-of-games-that-use-generative-ai.1367848/

A lot of false positives and someone claiming “not even using it as place holders is okay.”

make up your mind  

he's right, normally someone would be paid to create that placeholder art, so it's just as harmful to artists, takin' their jerbs

is it ok for staffers at the company to use AI to draft email responses to save time? keep in mind that LLMs are also trained ILLEGALLY on the sum total of human knowledge, countless copyrighted books

lazily saving time on writing inter-office emails is the same as lazily saving time on a piece of art

[Boredfrom]

Placeholder examples are so damn baffling too.

Like...you want those to be exactly the sort of thing that won't slip through into the final version. That demands human shitposting instincts.

Yup. There are certainly more egregious uses of gen AI, but placeholder work can still be problematic. And it's strange why people seemingly give Expedition 33 a hand waive because it's placeholder. Before we know it we'll say concept art and storyboards are placeholder so it's okay.

https://www.eurogamer.net/the-making-of-devotion-chinas-least-favourite-horror-game

https://www.resetera.com/threads/devotion-taiwan-top-selling-indie-horror-getting-review-bombed-by-cn-players-for-hidden-easter-egg-reads-xi-jinping-winnie-the-pooh-moron.101415/page-9

  So we are judging something for stuff like this.  

Obviously is not AI, but a placeholder is supposed to be cheap.

While I think storyboards and concept art has its place, placeholder is literally that… a place holder not intended for anyone but guide devs while making the real deal.

A lot of devs also use voice generators before using the real voice acting.

[malfoyking]

They’re just the worst kind of people. Always out for blood regardless. It’s fucking Friday night. Could be playing a game, watching a movie or anything else, but nope. 

Let’s make a witch hunt list because devs use a useful tool.

Unknown indie dev on mentalSky that will sell only maybe 2000 copies of their shit game, “We don’t use AI in our game!”

Reset-douche-era, see not all devs will. 

Ai is a fucking tool you fucking wankers, do you think that devs won’t use ai to help code their games now? 

They are the worst. Every time on every issue, they are the worst.

[Boredfrom]

Uh Oh the witch hunt begins.

What games are going to be put to the stake?

Or given a pass because Reeee plays it

https://www.resetera.com/threads/list-of-games-that-use-generative-ai.1367848/

A lot of false positives and someone claiming “not even using it as place holders is okay.”

make up your mind  

he's right, normally someone would be paid to create that placeholder art, so it's just as harmful to artists, takin' their jerbs

is it ok for staffers at the company to use AI to draft email responses to save time? keep in mind that LLMs are also trained ILLEGALLY on the sum total of human knowledge, countless copyrighted books

lazily saving time on writing inter-office emails is the same as lazily saving time on a piece of art

This tells me you are not that different from ERA, my dude.  

In that regard, I never said AI art or writing is plagiarized.  

What I have said at best is that they need to disclose what GEN AI used and with what stuff was trained with.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-says-he-plans-to-pardon-former-honduran-president-hernandez-for-2024-drug-trafficking-sentence.1367800/#post-148242763

They just won't bring it up

Exactly. It's not on r/conservative. They will just ignore it as it doesn't fit the narrative.

[benji]

Thread is now members only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/where-would-you-place-yourself-on-the-political-spectrum-poll-inside.1366291/

What's the poll results so far?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/metroid-prime-4-beyond-preview-thread.1353631/page-76#post-148234015

 User banned (1 month): Hostility and inflammatory commentary. Prior bans for the same.

Funny that you didn't answer any of my questions in that quote. So, again: What exactly could they've done more?

We are talking about Metroid after all.


No, seriously: Have you ever played any Metroid games? What are they supposed to put in a dedicated Direct? I swear this game has truly cooked some brains and I can't wait until it releases and we can move beyond this insanity.

Normally I ignore the people with obvious mental health issues bleeding into their posts but I'll give you this one:

A Nintendo direct, from early-mid game, that shows off the types of puzzles you'll be solving, the enemies you'll be fighting, maybe a setpiece or two since all the Metroid Prime games have those. Maybe show off what you do in that otherwise ugly, unimpressive overworld, since I know for a fact there is more that they're not showing. Very basic, clean marketing. I know enough about this game, and the Metroid series on the whole, to know they aren't putting their best foot forward.