Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[benji]

Vile blights on our species??? Like I said before? The way they dehumanise people will always astound me. Such wonderful, good, kind, compassionate people. What they tell themselves.

Name a bigger shitty vile blight than thinking women should be able to have spaces away from men. I'll wait.

[kaleidoscopium]

From B-dumbs "Great" headlines bot:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/harry-potter-headed-to-fortnite-as-hogwarts-legacy-offered-free-on-the-epic-games-store.1381738/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-free-to-add-to-your-epic-games-store-library-through-december-18.1381669/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-free-now-on-pc-via-the-epic-games-store.1381225/

[Taco Bell Tower]

From B-dumbs "Great" headlines bot:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/harry-potter-headed-to-fortnite-as-hogwarts-legacy-offered-free-on-the-epic-games-store.1381738/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-free-to-add-to-your-epic-games-store-library-through-december-18.1381669/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-is-free-now-on-pc-via-the-epic-games-store.1381225/

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[HaughtyFrank]

I have a strong suspicion that trans people are the loudest crowd whenever some female character is not the main character because they believe that playing a videogame woman is somehow hecking validation. (And if you play female characters in RPGs you're an egg, let's not forget that one)

Meanwhile real women seem much more chill about it. Not saying that they don't want female characters but they don't lose their mind if the series happens to switch characters around. Generally it's funny to watch female streamers and notice how they can be pretty critical of female characters. And not in a "oh no she lacks agency" way but in a "she's kind of a bitch" way

[Boredfrom]

What bugs me is that a lot of the designs are a few adjustments off from salvageable. . . except for the 2nd one, she just needs to get fuckin dressed.

Newsfeed

[kaleidoscopium]

Generally it's funny to watch female streamers and notice how they can be pretty critical of female characters. And not in a "oh no she lacks agency" way but in a "she's kind of a bitch" way

Yep, if you know any women in your life that game or watch movies, compare how they talk about characters to how resetera "women" talk about fictional characters. Very funny

[Keetongu]

I have a strong suspicion that trans people are the loudest crowd whenever some female character is not the main character because they believe that playing a videogame woman is somehow hecking validation. (And if you play female characters in RPGs you're an egg, let's not forget that one)

Meanwhile real women seem much more chill about it. Not saying that they don't want female characters but they don't lose their mind if the series happens to switch characters around. Generally it's funny to watch female streamers and notice how they can be pretty critical of female characters. And not in a "oh no she lacks agency" way but in a "she's kind of a bitch" way

My sister said she liked the new hot Leon and was going to get Requiem. Fucking misogynist.

[Jansen]

What bugs me is that a lot of the designs are a few adjustments off from salvageable. . . except for the 2nd one, she just needs to get fuckin dressed.

Newsfeed

You didn't even post the best part about that user in the titties are bad thread - their avatar

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-498#post-148855399

[benji]

I have a strong suspicion that trans people are the loudest crowd whenever some female character is not the main character because they believe that playing a videogame woman is somehow hecking validation. (And if you play female characters in RPGs you're an egg, let's not forget that one)

Meanwhile real women seem much more chill about it. Not saying that they don't want female characters but they don't lose their mind if the series happens to switch characters around. Generally it's funny to watch female streamers and notice how they can be pretty critical of female characters. And not in a "oh no she lacks agency" way but in a "she's kind of a bitch" way

There's a high probability that trans people self-insert and feel disconnected if they cannot imagine they're playing as themselves and they're experiencing the events. Hence the obsession with the character creators. The trans women on Era are desperate to avoid anything that they feel is male-coded. Self-inserting as a male character is male-coded. The paranoia about how every form of media is going to eliminate women is a reflection of this, not a belief about the supposed opposing ideology, because they believe most people self-insert like themselves and that the "powers that be" are therefore desperate to impose masculinity on everyone.

Their zero-sum conception of gender along with this is why if you play as a female character you must be an egg. Why would a MAN ever do anything GIRLY unless he really was a GIRL (or worse a HOMOSEXUAL MAN WHICH IS GAY)? Everyone is going to make fun of him for it!   He should show them by just being a girl, which is sexier and cooler anyway because men suck. (And people always have expectations for them, unlike women who manipulate everyone and do whatever they want while being totally sexy.)

[Uncle]

isn't that very much an autistic thing? a difficulty putting yourself in someone else's shoes, imagining how they must feel? so you have to play as "you" because nothing else makes sense to you

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I have a strong suspicion that trans people are the loudest crowd whenever some female character is not the main character because they believe that playing a videogame woman is somehow hecking validation. (And if you play female characters in RPGs you're an egg, let's not forget that one)

Meanwhile real women seem much more chill about it. Not saying that they don't want female characters but they don't lose their mind if the series happens to switch characters around. Generally it's funny to watch female streamers and notice how they can be pretty critical of female characters. And not in a "oh no she lacks agency" way but in a "she's kind of a bitch" way

There's a high probability that trans people self-insert and feel disconnected if they cannot imagine they're playing as themselves and they're experiencing the events. Hence the obsession with the character creators. The trans women on Era are desperate to avoid anything that they feel is male-coded. Self-inserting as a male character is male-coded. The paranoia about how every form of media is going to eliminate women is a reflection of this, not a belief about the supposed opposing ideology, because they believe most people self-insert like themselves and that the "powers that be" are therefore desperate to impose masculinity on everyone.

Their zero-sum conception of gender along with this is why if you play as a female character you must be an egg. Why would a MAN ever do anything GIRLY unless he really was a GIRL (or worse a HOMOSEXUAL MAN WHICH IS GAY)? Everyone is going to make fun of him for it!   He should show them by just being a girl, which is sexier and cooler anyway because men suck. (And people always have expectations for them, unlike women who manipulate everyone and do whatever they want while being totally sexy.)

egg post

[BananaBlast]

You didn't even post the best part about that user in the titties are bad thread - their avatar

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-498#post-148855399

I'm surprised the gossip vultures didn't tear him apart like they did with Kordova  It could still happen though, he just needs to post something triggering to get the ball rolling 

Still though, the absolute cognitive dissonance to act like sexualized anime girls make you so gosh darn angry and uncomfortable, while parading around an avatar like that.

[Taco Bell Tower]

You didn't even post the best part about that user in the titties are bad thread - their avatar

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-498#post-148855399

I'm surprised the gossip vultures didn't tear him apart like they did with Kordova  It could still happen though, he just needs to post something triggering to get the ball rolling 

Still though, the absolute cognitive dissonance to act like sexualized anime girls make you so gosh darn angry and uncomfortable, while parading around an avatar like that.

Didn't the admins and mods permanently banned Kordova?  I see he got a name change to Kasoris and now sports this pfp 

[books]

Alot of whw instead of wlw at the bire dot com recently. Very disappointed. Us men women need more support in a society that hates us women men just cuz of our man cock. 

Thats right! Im nonbinary!

[BananaBlast]

Didn't the admins and mods permanently banned Kordova?  I see he got a name change to Kasoris and now sports this pfp 

Yup. 

Kordova is now "Kasoris" after Messy ratted him out.

…..what How would Ayane and her melons save anything lol

The outfit is just stealthy underboob and barely a ninja suit.

The rest is not bad but Razors Edge has a better outfit overall even with the colossal cleavage which must be contractually mandated for female ninja Gaiden characters.

That character design is something else. Why do so many Tekken characters such similar faces and body types, except for her having the biggest boobs.

This costume is slightly better but goodness the boobs are ridiculously huge.

I suppose, the whole suit and tie of her old outfit reminds me more of that secret agent vibe. New one with the mesh boob window and heels is random.

The ideal redesign they claim is better looks ridiculous every time. Atsu does not need to look like a gatcha character or a Stellar Blade mod.

I wonder how many commenters will be crying woke if Lara’s chest and rear aren’t bigger than the prior trilogy.

And he's still on the same gig....despite already being outed as a coomer and threadbanned by the burka thread

[D3RANG3D]

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boobs are bad mmkay...oh wait here is an Olympic athelete with some gazongas!

[benji]

Man, it's so awful how gooners seem to run the game industry. Anyway, sex work is real work. Support sex workers. Normalize pornography. Banning any pornography from any platform is fascist. Age limitations of any kind is anti-LGBTQIA2S+. Now if you excuse me I need to tweet a bunch of shit about my fetishes and probably post my moobs a few times because that's just what lesbo sluts like me do.

[Alpacx]

Animal Farm movie trailer is so bad even Era can see it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/animal-farm-official-trailer-may-1-directed-by-andy-serkis.1381768
Edit:

I just read through that last thread again, and I'm really working hard to be a grown up and not tag everyone in there who was essentially calling other members dumb for not seeing where Serkis was obviously going with it, and seeing if they're holding fast with that stance.

And I was wrong, it wasn't someone who brought up the term "media literacy", it was a bunch of people lol. I maintain that "media literacy" is a red flag that you're talking to someone who acts like they let some entry level college courses go to their head.

cross thread drama much

[benji]

Edit:

I maintain that "media literacy" is a red flag that you're talking to someone who acts like they let some entry level YouTube videos go to their head.

fixed

[Boredfrom]

I remember when I was a kid and saw a live action adaptation of Animal Farm at Hallmark Channel because it looked like Babe.

Good times.

[Boredfrom]

Era favorite pseudo JRPG maker makes a thread lamenting respectability politics in gaming:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/redeeming-a-genre-which-is-not-particularly-in-need-a-redemption-clair-obscur-discourse.1382365/

Meanwhile, in the Valve don’t delete the review I want thread:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/valve-confirms-leaving-negative-reviews-due-to-a-game-containing-muslims-is-valid-and-not-subject-to-removal.1378507/page-10#post-148859074

You don't have to throw it away. Just be honest about it.

Steam started out as a shit service forced on us because of the orange box. But they kept adding features and steam sales and coal and it really did become a great thing with a real community around it like on neogaf, but not on it.

Then they added all the social features, the gambling to kids, and allowed all the toxic things to fester and that is where we are today. Steam is right now an absolute embarassment to PC gaming.

There is still hope that it comes back again. There is still hope that America comes back again, given Valve is really symbolic of the current elected government and their awful views and corruption. Will that happen? Probably not but you know, maybe.

But you can make noise about it and call it out, because that is the right thing to do. The other side is when someone like Visa or mastercard takes a look at the platform and goes "holy fuck" people should look at it a bit differently. Valve gets away with things like gambling because they are under the radar. When a light finally gets shone on them? There will be some pain, but that needs to happen.

I already recognize I'm part of one of the shittiest hobbies out there, you can be sure of that.

Aren't we all :(

[Boredfrom]

This one specially kills me:

There is still hope that America comes back again, given Valve is really symbolic of the current elected government and their awful views and corruption.

Valve is like MAGA because they can’t ignore payment processors, let everyone post what they want ( Trump famous for being tolerant of others view) and liking free trade over tariffs.

[Jonsey]

isn't that very much an autistic thing? a difficulty putting yourself in someone else's shoes, imagining how they must feel? so you have to play as "you" because nothing else makes sense to you

No that’s just an asshole

[benji]

One problem with Animal Farm is that it's simply not much of a very compelling story. It's literally just an allegory of the actual Soviet history, and actual Soviet history is just a bunch of mass murder, deliberate poverty/famines and social jockeying among losers.

It gets worse than the trailer:

The book isn't even that fucking long

how did you miss the point that god damn bad

holy shit

The number of people who miss the point of that book is absurd and will make you cry...

Oh, know anyone like that?  

Nevermind she was in the thread:

.... What the fuck is with the sci-fi turn?

Nah playa, I'm out.

anti communism but with a future punk twist

Hey, at least he's not being faithful to the book in that way!

https://www.moviemaker.com/heart-and-soul-an-interview-with-andy-serkis/
MM: What can you tell me about your version of Animal Farm, the politics, and the relevance in today's world?

AS: "Well, I've always wanted to make a version of Animal Farm. It's going to be completely performance capture driven. Every single character is driven by an actor. It will be authored by those actors on a stage with a director. And we have a clear idea of the politics. First and foremost, we are not making a film about Communism and Stalinism because if Orwell was writing the story today, he would be talking about other relevant topics like globalization and corporate greed. We're investigating that world – the world of the overarching ego that corrupts the innocence of the potential utopia that the animals create. So, if you like the archetypes, all the characters are exactly the same and will represent the same as the book. It's just that we're not pinning them down to specific political targets, i.e. Napoleonism, Stalinism, Trotskyism, etc. We're making a family film and it will be viewed from a position of innocence, which is what makes it so powerful. The message can resonate on so many different levels – it will really hit you emotionally."

So the movie literally is about capitalism bad?

If it gets an important message across to kids then fine.

This is where I'm at. They are at least using the words, so if it can get the idea across of socialist revolution being corrupted by opportunists betraying the values of the movement for personal gain and totalitarian control in a way that is digestible for children, I don't see harm in this.

Introducing human subterfuge into the plot goes against the main idea of the book that all revolutionary structures succumb under their own weight due to factional infighting. I guess you can make it a story about counterrevolution menaces, but I don't know if I gel with that vibe.

Orwell knew about the Soviets unlike you guys. There was no "corruption" or "factional infighting" that doomed it to totalitarianism. Animal Farm literally has no factional infighting in it, they just purge Snowball.

edit: Also Snowball is Trotsky, one of the most violent of the totalitarians.

[benji]

Meanwhile, in the Valve don’t delete the review I want thread:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/valve-confirms-leaving-negative-reviews-due-to-a-game-containing-muslims-is-valid-and-not-subject-to-removal.1378507/page-10#post-148859074

Steam started out as a shit service forced on us because of the orange box. But they kept adding features and steam sales and coal and it really did become a great thing with a real community around it like on neogaf, but not on it.

Then they added all the social features, the gambling to kids, and allowed all the toxic things to fester and that is where we are today. Steam is right now an absolute embarassment to PC gaming.

1. Steam was forced on us with Half-Life 2.
2. The social features were there from the very start, as that was the point.

[benji]

Like, you can't claim to know history and say the Soviet Union was a socialist revolution that was corrupted by opportunists into totalitarianism let alone blame Stalin for this. The Bolsheviks were always totalitarians! (Though they were opportunists, they were funded by the German Empire.)

The Bolsheviks came to power by violently overthrowing the revolution's elected government when they didn't win the elections and then defeating the republican forces in a civil war. Lenin was always a totalitarian and all his writing is totalitarian, they implemented a totalitarian system from day one that immediately failed because central planning doesn't work. Animal Farm doesn't have the part where Lenin, alone, had the personal prestige and leadership flexibility to admit communism failed and they brought back capitalism. Except he died and his opportunism went with him. Neither Trotsky nor Stalin supported the return to capitalism so whichever won would have gone right back to the totalitarian failure. Trotsky lost because he thought politics didn't mean anything other than just yelling at people what you want them to do and lecturing them about theory. Stalin understood it was about winning people to your side. Animal Farm unfortunately doesn't have any of this either.

In fact, you could argue that from the events of the story, Snowball is more an optimistic version of Kerensky and Napoleon is Lenin. But Orwell obviously wouldn't want to tell that story. (Plus bad guys hijack a republican and anti-war revolution to be bad guys isn't much of one.)

[Polident]

Man, it's so awful how gooners seem to run the game industry. Anyway, sex work is real work. Support sex workers. Normalize pornography. Banning any pornography from any platform is fascist. Age limitations of any kind is anti-LGBTQIA2S+. Now if you excuse me I need to tweet a bunch of shit about my fetishes and probably post my moobs a few times because that's just what lesbo sluts like me do.

The “sex work is real work” thing is always odd phrasing when the top .000001% of the industries, upon leaving, immediately talk about how terrible and exploitative it was. The regrets and wanting their work scrubbed off the internet. It also doesn’t make a lot of sense when raging about capitalism would go hand in hand with people making desperate choices for money. How isn’t “gay for pay” the height of capitalism? To that end, I think de-stigmatizing it is worthwhile. But glamorizing it to feed more vulnerable women into the industry? what’s the end goal?

[Uncle]

I started reading this sentence and expected it to be steam-related

[benji]

"The dictatorship of Steam requires the use of swift, implacable, and resolute sales to crush the resistance of publishers, developers, console companies, and their minions. Anyone who does not understand this is not a revolutionary." -

[benji]

The “sex work is real work” thing is always odd phrasing when the top .000001% of the industries, upon leaving, immediately talk about how terrible and exploitative it was. The regrets and wanting their work scrubbed off the internet. It also doesn’t make a lot of sense when raging about capitalism would go hand in hand with people making desperate choices for money. How isn’t “gay for pay” the height of capitalism? To that end, I think de-stigmatizing it is worthwhile. But glamorizing it to feed more vulnerable women into the industry? what’s the end goal?

To assuage their guilt over consuming it? And perhaps, worse, for enjoying it.