Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Boredfrom]

Reminder: Don’t feed Nintex or encourage his racism and xenophobia. (Even if he is describing IRL stuff)

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

If only RustyNails wasn't banned..

[Boredfrom]

It depends what standards to use. I know people like to dismiss the stated goals and philosophies of organisations and only look at power relations, but at some point to make sense of the world you have to just believe it when people tell you who they are.

If you use the standard of the stated goals and philosophies, Hamas is more psychotic than Likud.

These events don't exist just in a vacuum of political ideology - there's a need for recognition of the decades of oppression and injustice that preceded all this. Occupied Palestine has always been under this subjugation, it’s just with the age of smartphones that the documented evidence becomes harder and harder to ignore. The heightened ethnic cleansing thats intensified in the last few years, don't necessarily call upon specific political forces to be the instigators or causes of such reactions - if not Hamas, it would have been another rebellion or act of resistance. A common suffering regardless of your affiliations - and ultimately acts like these call into question people's support - is decolonization and liberation of an occupied state just an academic theory that we talk about or something tangible that bears witness?

This is the same forum that perpetually bitches on how cartoony was the depiction of racial revolutionaries in Bioshock Infinite.

[Daffy Duck]

They can’t keep getting away with it…

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cd-projekt-employees-are-forming-polish-gamedev-workers-union.772367/

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Nep goes full TERF:

I wish I possessed that level of oblivious entitlement to bust up in a space where I'm clearly not wanted.

[Eric Cartman]

well, if I could steal one thing from a store (which is likely, it's harder to steal a cart full of groceries), I'd go for the most expensive thing in the hopes of pawning it for a lot, and then you buy bread with that money

Like, I'd have to flip a fucking ton of burgers at Mickey Ds compared to what I'd make with a baggy of adderall at a democrat lobbyist convention

[Boredfrom]

Horrendous.
What's even sadder is that while this may be new or shocking to many, what follows is routine. Many civilians from both sides will die senselessly for a while before a ceasefire happens.

But Israel will always bear full responsibility for what happens in this conflict. They have built the conditions that least to this, the continued occupation, the seige, the routine killings of Palestinian civilians and the daily humiliation and violence they inflict on them. They're even responsible for Hamas's very existence, when they propped them up to weaken Fatah.

And just above:

They are going house to house and slaughtering entire families. Trucks full of men kidnapping women and then parading around their half naked dead bodies afterward. This is some of the most horrific shit I’ve ever seen and it’s happening in real time as we speak. Unbelievable.

Wait what WTF?

[Eric Cartman]

If they actually were stealing bread*, the stores wouldn't care as much. Margins are too low. Fucking capitalism.

*because the welfare states in progressive areas are so stingy and bigoted

let them eat brioche

[HaughtyFrank]

Maybe IDF needs to stop trolling on twitter and pulling 'My bad, well not really' random murders of innocents and journos and do their jobs?

This is going to be horrifying and while Israel and Hamas have blood so does the international community for letting fucked up shit slide in the area particularly these last few years while letting a shitshow of a corrupt Israel government run amok raising tensions since right wing politics get votes and is keeping Bibi out of jail.

So much death is coming on both sides.

All of the sudden the problem is that the IDF is not doing their job? Does this idiot not realize that them preventing this attack would have meant even more raids, bombings and civilian deaths in Gaza?

[Boredfrom]

Maybe IDF needs to stop trolling on twitter and pulling 'My bad, well not really' random murders of innocents and journos and do their jobs?

This is going to be horrifying and while Israel and Hamas have blood so does the international community for letting fucked up shit slide in the area particularly these last few years while letting a shitshow of a corrupt Israel government run amok raising tensions since right wing politics get votes and is keeping Bibi out of jail.

So much death is coming on both sides.

Shit is so horrific that RE is doing both sides.

[Eric Cartman]

Well, fuck. A lot of innocents are going to die.

The Israel military has been murdering (among a lot of other things) innocent Palestinians for a long time as well, it's terrible but also equally unsurprising that the retaliation has ramped up. The entire situation is fucked up when the vast majority of these people presumably just want to be left alone to live their lives in peace.

When I said "innocents" I meant palestinian civilians in Gaza

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/post-113120507
Fucking hell, man

You do not, in fact, "gotta hand it to Hamas"

[benji]

The world has long been silent on what has been happening in this part of the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

I live in such a glass house, so I can’t throw stones. The world didn't stop engaging with the US due white supremacy. Never stopped engaging with Russia. A “Normal Govt” is violent white supremacy, violently upholding capitalism at the expense of black and brown people.

Uh, who are these perfect countries that are not supposed to be recognizing the US or Russia?

These events don't exist just in a vacuum of political ideology - there's a need for recognition of the decades of oppression and injustice that preceded all this. Occupied Palestine has always been under this subjugation, it’s just with the age of smartphones that the documented evidence becomes harder and harder to ignore. The heightened ethnic cleansing thats intensified in the last few years, don't necessarily call upon specific political forces to be the instigators or causes of such reactions - if not Hamas, it would have been another rebellion or act of resistance. A common suffering regardless of your affiliations - and ultimately acts like these call into question people's support - is decolonization and liberation of an occupied state just an academic theory that we talk about or something tangible that bears witness?

What colonization and occupied state are we talking about here? No, really, since we're all informed people here, let's sit down and productively discuss the legitimacy of the State of Palestine. An entity formed by third parties, rejected by all relevant populations in the region and grudgingly accepted for propaganda purposes after decades of failure to dislodge Israel that still refuses to form itself institutionally as a state and claims authority over regions it hasn't physically held ever.

I don't care to defend Israel, a state and an ethonationalist socialist state at that, but let's talk about the colonization and occupation here and compare it to other instances of states with limited legitimacy like Transnistria, Tibet, Somaliland, the two claimed independent parts of Georgia, Western Sahara, Canada, Northern Cyprus, and whatever the fuck has been going on in Yemen for decades. (Not to mention the countless more transient claims across Africa and Asia.) We would want to bear witness on the decolonialization and liberation of occupied states would we not? Or are we just academic theorizing now?

[Boredfrom]

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Maybe IDF needs to stop trolling on twitter and pulling 'My bad, well not really' random murders of innocents and journos and do their jobs?

This is going to be horrifying and while Israel and Hamas have blood so does the international community for letting fucked up shit slide in the area particularly these last few years while letting a shitshow of a corrupt Israel government run amok raising tensions since right wing politics get votes and is keeping Bibi out of jail.

So much death is coming on both sides.

All of the sudden the problem is that the IDF is not doing their job? Does this idiot not realize that them preventing this attack would have meant even more raids, bombings and civilian deaths in Gaza?

Well, I don’t think is that simple or that doing their job is making more people hate your guts (intentionally or not).

Still, it sounds that nothing they have done is comparable with what Hamas seems indulging themselves.

[Boredfrom]

all loss of civilian life is tragic. nevertheless, this is the natural consequence of ever escalating apartheid, extrajudicial killings of civilians, ethnic cleansing and expansion of illegal settlements in palestinian territory. you can only push people so far before they start pushing back.

Multiple decades of oppression, stolen land and murder will drive people to act like animals. Hamas is evil, but let's not pretend WHY they exist in the first place. Look at the map of Palestinian land over the last 40 years and you'll understand.

THEN DONT JUSTIFY IT.

Specially since they seem to be acting way worse than whatever they were bitching that IDF was doing.

[Eric Cartman]

1696677510[/url]']

Maybe IDF needs to stop trolling on twitter and pulling 'My bad, well not really' random murders of innocents and journos and do their jobs?

This is going to be horrifying and while Israel and Hamas have blood so does the international community for letting fucked up shit slide in the area particularly these last few years while letting a shitshow of a corrupt Israel government run amok raising tensions since right wing politics get votes and is keeping Bibi out of jail.

So much death is coming on both sides.

All of the sudden the problem is that the IDF is not doing their job? Does this idiot not realize that them preventing this attack would have meant even more raids, bombings and civilian deaths in Gaza?

Well, I don’t think is that simple or that doing their job is making more people hate your guts (intentionally or not).

Still, it sounds that nothing they have done is comparable with what Hamas seems indulging themselves.

uh, are you suggesting that the person running the social media account isn't the same person making policy decisions unlaterally?

[benji]

They really care a lot about some near arbitrary lines that were drawn nearly a century ago.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/page-4#post-113124716

This is going to have so many repercussions.

The videos that are making their way online are going to enrage.

The timing of this is so suspect.

Republicans are calling for aid to go to Israel now. So Ukraine aid dries up? Republicans are already blaming this on Biden for giving Iran their money back.

Hmm.. smells like a conspiracy theory. Are republicans to blame for this?

[Boredfrom]

This is absolutely horrific.
It also goes to show that all the technical innovations and human rights violations in the world will never 100% guarantee you’re protected from terrorism.
Ultimately, fascists dig your grave as much as their enemies’.

“How many buzzwords I can say in a both sides post without sounding like both sides.”

Th situation seems horrible to still be talking like a NPC.

[Eric Cartman]

Now would be a pretty good time to get that Pro-Hamas resetera logo contest entry in, just saying

[HaughtyFrank]

Nah, Israel will milk this, before all they had to justify their atrocities was that hammas was possibly threatening them.

Now they have footage that they can throw at anyone who objects

I wonder how old these people are. I still remember the 2000s when there seemed to be a bombing in israel every other week

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks#2000s

[DocWager]

Hey maybe Era should take a stand, and paint the forum logo with Palestinian colors, and pin this thread to the top of the page.

[Boredfrom]

i am aware these attacks are more brutal than the typical rocket salvos. these events are much more tragic. i don't think that makes the rest of my post inaccurate. regardless of the brutality of these attacks, they are still a consequence of the apartheid policies of the israeli state.

Literally reaping what they sow.

I think they need to read the actual descriptions of the attacks.

[Polident]

The world has long been silent on what has been happening in this part of the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

I live in such a glass house, so I can’t throw stones. The world didn't stop engaging with the US due white supremacy. Never stopped engaging with Russia. A “Normal Govt” is violent white supremacy, violently upholding capitalism at the expense of black and brown people.

Uh, who are these perfect countries that are not supposed to be recognizing the US or Russia?

These events don't exist just in a vacuum of political ideology - there's a need for recognition of the decades of oppression and injustice that preceded all this. Occupied Palestine has always been under this subjugation, it’s just with the age of smartphones that the documented evidence becomes harder and harder to ignore. The heightened ethnic cleansing thats intensified in the last few years, don't necessarily call upon specific political forces to be the instigators or causes of such reactions - if not Hamas, it would have been another rebellion or act of resistance. A common suffering regardless of your affiliations - and ultimately acts like these call into question people's support - is decolonization and liberation of an occupied state just an academic theory that we talk about or something tangible that bears witness?

What colonization and occupied state are we talking about here? No, really, since we're all informed people here, let's sit down and productively discuss the legitimacy of the State of Palestine. An entity formed by third parties, rejected by all relevant populations in the region and grudgingly accepted for propaganda purposes after decades of failure to dislodge Israel that still refuses to form itself institutionally as a state and claims authority over regions it hasn't physically held ever.

I don't care to defend Israel, a state and an ethonationalist socialist state at that, but let's talk about the colonization and occupation here and compare it to other instances of states with limited legitimacy like Transnistria, Tibet, Somaliland, the two claimed independent parts of Georgia, Western Sahara, Canada, Northern Cyprus, and whatever the fuck has been going on in Yemen for decades. (Not to mention the countless more transient claims across Africa and Asia.) We would want to bear witness on the decolonialization and liberation of occupied states would we not? Or are we just academic theorizing now?

You’re throwing out too many words. Their understanding of the conflict is somewhere above knowing there is a conflict, and below Don’t Mess with the Zohan. Anything beyond black vs white is confusing and prone to cause fits of anger.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/page-4#post-113124947



may dude find peace in their upcoming ban...

[Eric Cartman]

That thread doesn't have a threadmark for the one permissible objectively true opinion yet, is spineduke waiting for two other mods to wake up so they can solve the middle east?

[Boredfrom]

Already I’m seeing the huge amounts of angry strawmen tweets and posts calling out supposed hypocrisy over western support for Ukraine while we are condemning HAMAS and it has me more than a bit perturbed because I can promise you that if Ukranine had at any point sent a large force of combatants into some Russian city like Rostov or Belogord and they were going door to door indiscriminately slaughtering civilians like it’s the “No Russian” level from Call of Duty the international support for Ukraine would dry up so fast you couldn’t blink or you’d miss it.

But then:

In general, the hypocrisy is in not stopping Israel from committing apartheid and straight out genocide and instead even supporting said actions.

The hypocrisy is definitely there. Western support for Ukraine has been there since day 1, meanwhile that same West has been supporting (and continues to support) Israel and it's horrible attacks on Palestinians since decades.

Again, you fucks should read what the fuck Hamas is posting in their socials (not seeing because you may vomit).

[Boredfrom]

Why on earth would they attack civilians?

I think this has a lot to do with the settlers taking over the Al-Aqsa mosque recently and just the overall actions of the settlers including violence against Palestinians.

Those with more knowledge on this conflict can better answer your question.

“Did the violence include parading naked bodies, murdering entire families or kidnapping civilians?”

Thordinson, you don’t need to answer questions if you don’t know the answer.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/page-5#post-113125619

Well it’s definitely an awesome time for Twitter to have fired literally all of their moderation and safety staff and turned all safeguards off. I’m sure the Elon Musk run hell site which has been busy attacking the ADF and promoting literal Nazis for weeks will really work hard to clamp down on the videos and imagery of Jewish people being killed showing up in everyone’s timeline.

I need to take this moment to complain about Elon and Twitter. I hope all the dead understand.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-militants-enter-israel-from-gaza-after-woman-killed-in-rocket-barrage.772349/page-5#post-113125619

I’m sure the Elon Musk run hell site which has been busy attacking the ADF and promoting literal Nazis for weeks will really work hard to clamp down on the videos and imagery of Jewish people being killed showing up in everyone’s timeline.

Why are you following people who would tweet that stuff? 

[Boredfrom]

But RE was saying that Nazis and Republicans support Israel because the judgement Day? That Israel is already a Nazi state (  ). But Jews are used as scapegoats unless they are oppressing the browns, then they are fascists yts.