Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-beat-metroid-other-m-over-the-weekend-and-honestly%E2%80%A6.1393423/page-2#post-149421622

I just... shake my head when people stick up for Other M. Did we play the same game?

There's a boss fight where Ridley holds Samus down by her lower body and shoulders and tries to stab her with his tail over and over, while Samus gets a POV of his naked body waist-up, very clearly meant to give the impression that Samus is being raped. That isn't even touching the rest of the story (turning Samus into a blubbering mess is truly the tip of the iceberg).

I can't respect a game that thoughtlessly throws around sexual assault in any capacity. The whole game is dripping in misogyny. It bothers me way too much to even start thinking about the gameplay (which was also bad)!

That user's avatar:

You know why they keep saying shit like this? Because there is always two or three dudes taking it seriously and be accommodating while pretending they wouldn’t mock the shit out of any other user.

So I never got played Other M but I know there is something weird themes around that game (THEBABYTHEBABYTHRBABY) and I know Metroid is basically is basically inspired by Alien, so dunno about if there is sexual imagery like in the franchise they got inspired by. But I think this the first time someone outright said Ridley was “raping Samus” in that game.

[Kyon1988]

ERA tankies just can't help themselves and must always act defensive for Stalin and Lenin:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/page-3#post-149419630

Because that's not how we should judge revolutionary processes, especially the post-revolutionary period. Hell, there's an entire philosophical distinction between morality and moralism, the latter being continuously employed when "attempting" (because most of the time it is done in bad faith) to analyze historical events.


In other words, it's a false presentation of an arbitrary moral line that isn't connected to the material and historical reality of that revolutionary process. In reality, whenever we analyze any historical process, we consider the material conditions of that period; otherwise, we end up with massive moral inconsistencies.

It's a falsehood to analyze the period after, say, a slave uprising with the same moral scrutiny as the period before that uprising. It doesn't make sense. These are completely different material realities. No, the slaves will never "become the oppressors" unless one blatantly and purposefully ignores the specific historical context of the original oppressors. It's a false debate. It's an abstract, false, moral absolutism.

It's actually a perfect example. First, it attempts to summarize the entire post-revolutionary period of Russia solely through the Stalinist period, which is absurd. Second, it willfully ignores the actual historical context (for example, the "political witch hunts," which were in fact heavily supported and carried out by popular bases) while dreaming up an idealist version of reality and purposefully ignoring several other historically relevant figures from that period.

This then results in massive moral inconsistencies. The Black Panthers, for example, were strongly supportive of the USSR. Would anyone considers the Black Panthers morally bankrupt? Or Malcom X? It's a slippery slope that can easily be deconstructed.

Lenin developed the theoretical anti-imperialist framework that was responsible for the liberation of several african nations from european colonialism. Huey P. Newton literally linked the BPP's foundational program to Marxism-Leninism. Are we going to say that Newton was one of the worst people who ever lived?

This is why this is a silly debate lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/page-3#post-149420266

Lenin his terror is responsible for hundreds of thousands of people being murdered. Stalin was worse but he could only do what he did thanks to Lenin. Both committed mass genocide

You still didn't answer my question. Do you consider Huey P. Newton, one of the biggest if not the biggest anti-racism figures of history, that not only openly praised Lenin's theoretical analysis, he literally founded the BPP within a Marxist-Leninist tradition, as a horrible human being who, apparently, defended mass genocide too?

Someone got perma banned in that discussion meanwhile stanning for Lenin and Stalin is okay.

[boreform]

[benji]

Demons and AI, as the D-Pad nutjob says.

We don't have to worry about things that aren't real.

ERA tankies just can't help themselves and must always act defensive for Stalin and Lenin:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-really-dislike-the-trope-where-they-make-oppressed-people-fighting-against-their-oppressors-becoming-worse-than-said-oppressors.1393417/page-3#post-149419630

Because that's not how we should judge revolutionary processes, especially the post-revolutionary period. Hell, there's an entire philosophical distinction between morality and moralism, the latter being continuously employed when "attempting" (because most of the time it is done in bad faith) to analyze historical events.


In other words, it's a false presentation of an arbitrary moral line that isn't connected to the material and historical reality of that revolutionary process. In reality, whenever we analyze any historical process, we consider the material conditions of that period; otherwise, we end up with massive moral inconsistencies.

It's a falsehood to analyze the period after, say, a slave uprising with the same moral scrutiny as the period before that uprising. It doesn't make sense. These are completely different material realities. No, the slaves will never "become the oppressors" unless one blatantly and purposefully ignores the specific historical context of the original oppressors. It's a false debate. It's an abstract, false, moral absolutism.

Except material conditions determining morality is both even more inconsistent and just as arbitrary. You're saying that slavery and oppression is in fact fine as long as the right people are oppressed or enslaved. You only have to take this position because you're trying to defend some of history's greatest crimes as morally good and necessary. You wouldn't do this for the Nazis, but when the Soviets do it on a larger scale you start talking about how morality is so arbitrary. You now can't explain why the Nazi regime, or worse, Joanne is bad except by appeal to your opinion. You're not going to convince anyone because I reject your opinion on the basis that it defends the greatest mass murders in human history which brings you back to yelling about how sometimes mass murder is good.

This then results in massive moral inconsistencies. The Black Panthers, for example, were strongly supportive of the USSR. Would anyone considers the Black Panthers morally bankrupt? Or Malcom X?

Yes, of course. Anyone willing to engage in mass murder for any reason is morally bankrupt. That was easy.

Lenin developed the theoretical anti-imperialist framework that was responsible for the liberation of several african nations from european colonialism.

Name two.

Lenin his terror is responsible for hundreds of thousands of people being murdered. Stalin was worse but he could only do what he did thanks to Lenin. Both committed mass genocide

You still didn't answer my question. Do you consider Huey P. Newton, one of the biggest if not the biggest anti-racism figures of history, that not only openly praised Lenin's theoretical analysis, he literally founded the BPP within a Marxist-Leninist tradition, as a horrible human being who, apparently, defended mass genocide too?

Yes, Newton like all Marxist-Leninists defended horrendous crimes. And if that wasn't bad enough, Newton got taken by Jim Jones.

The only reason we don't treat arguing in favor of Marxism, especially Marxism-Leninism, as the same as arguing in favor of Nazis is because the Marxists and specifically the Soviets spent decades on good PR. And because simpletons continue to see the shining "moral clarity" of "just kill all the bad people and we'll have paradise." Again, same position as Hitler. A worse position than Donald Trump who merely wants to send them away and doesn't care what happens to them. "But but but the material reality of..." Yeah, like having a Zionazi heritage?

And for the record, if you defend the Soviets guess what you have to defend? Invading Poland in 1939. Carving up Europe between totalitarian regimes. Oppression and mass murder of Jews. The Soviet line was even that the invasion of France was a good thing because it was bringing down the capitalists until the Nazis invaded the Soviets too:

VERY URGENT

Moscow, June 18, 1940-1:10 a. m.

Received June 18, 1940-4 a. m.

No. 1167 of June 17

Molotov summoned me this evening to his office and expressed the warmest congratulations of the Soviet Government on the splendid success of the German Armed Forces. Thereupon, Molotov informed me of the Soviet action against the Baltic States. He referred to the reasons published in the press and added that it had become necessary to put an end to all the intrigues by which England and France had tried to sow discord and mistrust between Germany and the Soviet Union in the Baltic States.

Leninism says that the defeat of your own country in war is a good thing because it escalates the guaranteed revolution, so France's collapse to Nazi Germany was perfectly in line with Leninist theory and many French Communists saw it this way until later.

In September 1939 the PCF was banned following the signature of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and the declaration of war due to the party holding the Stalinist line that the Allies were responsible for the war and that Germany was seeking peace. In October 1939, Duclos called for negotiations with Hitler, which led to increased repression from the state.[3] Upon France's defeat in 1940, Duclos, the most senior PCF official in France, engaged in negotiations with the Nazi authorities with a view to legalising the Communist Party as well as requesting permission to restart publication of the PCF daily (L'Humanité) (banned by the French government for the same reasons).[3]
...
After 1950, Thorez's health faltered, but Duclos remained one of the most influential members of the Party. He was acting Secretary General from 1950 to 1953 in Thorez's absence and was instrumental in eliminating his rival André Marty from the Party's leadership. Waldeck Rochet's own failing health prompted Duclos to run as the Party's presidential candidate in the 1969 election, scoring 21.27% of the vote, the highest ever for a communist presidential candidate in France

You can't call support of the Nazis immoral, after all, that's arbitrary and ignoring the material realities. And just as important ignoring the Marxist-Leninist anti-imperialist framework. Perhaps this is even reason to support Trump, he's weakening and undermining the capitalist regime. As good Leninists we should see this, see destroying USAID, empowering ICE, silencing Jimmy Kimmel, coordinating propaganda with Disney and other media corporations, bombing random boats, taking away Dr. Poop's food stamps, genociding trans people, etc. as all building the conditions for the revolutionary moment. Then once that happens we simply murder any social democrats and seize power. So maybe Era should learn to not be so arbitrary in their morals and ever oppose Donald Trump.

[benji]

You chuds who don't read the theory may not like it but this is what real anti-imperialist praxis looks like:

[benji]

[Mediocre Lager]

He's right you know. They did not have to use the word Somali.

[D3RANG3D]

They don't celebrate christmas dumbasses...

[boreform]

the retard right 

[SLoWMoTIoN404au]

Remember ManaByte?

https://x.com/ManaByte/status/2005431322395689311

Looking back at the last five or six years, the landscape of the things we love - Star Wars, the MCU, DC, and the gaming world - has changed. But it’s not just the stories that have changed; it’s the way we talk about them.

We’ve moved into an era where "fandom" has been hijacked by an industry of outrage. I’ve watched as platforms have become flooded with "rage bait" -content designed specifically to make you angry; to make you feel like your childhood is under attack, and to convince you that everything you love is "dead" or "failing."

The truth? Anger is profitable. Clicks are currency, and nothing generates a payout quite like a thumbnail of a crying actor or a headline screaming about a "disaster."

I’m drawing a line in the sand. I will not contribute to the "grift."

I’ve spent a lot of time reflecting on the state of these communities, and I’ve decided that my voice will not be part of the noise. I refuse to manufacture fake outrage for monetized views. I refuse to treat a movie or a video game like a battlefield in a culture war.

Life is too short, and our time is too valuable to spend it cataloging every minor grievance or feeding the flames of negativity. There is enough bitterness in the world; our hobbies should be our refuge, not another source of stress.

From now on, this space is about celebration.

I want to talk about the moments that made us cheer, the characters that inspired us, and the developers and creators who are actually doing the work.

I want to build a community that remembers why we fell in love with these worlds in the first place. If you’re tired of the "doom-and-gloom" cycle, if you’re tired of being told you should be angry about a casting choice or a plot point, then you’re in the right place.

Let’s stop rewarding the outrage. Let’s start celebrating the art.

Focus on the light. Let the rest go.

[boreform]

what a dumbass bitch 

[Uncle]

You know why they keep saying shit like this? Because there is always two or three dudes taking it seriously and be accommodating while pretending they wouldn’t mock the shit out of any other user.

So I never got played Other M but I know there is something weird themes around that game (THEBABYTHEBABYTHRBABY) and I know Metroid is basically is basically inspired by Alien, so dunno about if there is sexual imagery like in the franchise they got inspired by. But I think this the first time someone outright said Ridley was “raping Samus” in that game.

the word "baby" appears in Other M's script 14 times, and it is mostly frontloaded at the start of the game, so that's why everyone remembers it as a meme

there's a whole game in there with plenty of other stupid embarrassing things like the fact that someone is sabotaging the station and Samus decides to name this mystery person the Deleter and keeps calling them that with a straight face

this is because sakamoto was jealous of the popularity of the Prime series and decided he wanted full control over everything to do Samus right this time, the way he always envisioned things, which included insisting on a very literal Japanese translation and refusing to take localization recommendations (like y'know occasionally mixing things up and referring to "the infant Metroid" or something)

but even in spite of that it's a very overblown criticism, the "get it?!" motherhood symbolism is over pretty quickly and then you're just playing the game which as stated has plenty of other problems and oddities that could stand to be focused on instead

[malfoyking]

Fuck it. I don't remember much about Other M. All I knows is, I played it, finished it, and enjoyed it.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/on-22-12-2025-moba-network-released-a-statement-saying-share-trading-would-ceasejanuary-1st-2026-and-begin-a-full-strategic-review-of-the-company.1393618/

[Potato]

In other words, it's a false presentation of an arbitrary moral line that isn't connected to the material and historical reality of that revolutionary process.

If you told me it was possible to smell someone through a screen, I wouldn't have believed you. Until I read this sentence, that is.

[Besticus Maximus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/on-22-12-2025-moba-network-released-a-statement-saying-share-trading-would-ceasejanuary-1st-2026-and-begin-a-full-strategic-review-of-the-company.1393618/

Colin Moriarty, y'all know what to do 

[Uncle]

Fuck it. I don't remember much about Other M. All I knows is, I played it, finished it, and enjoyed it.

I didn't like having to point at the screen to perform various actions, but the traversal and associated camera angles and feel were great, everything Metroid should be in 3D (as opposed to 2D, which Dread nailed)

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/on-22-12-2025-moba-network-released-a-statement-saying-share-trading-would-ceasejanuary-1st-2026-and-begin-a-full-strategic-review-of-the-company.1393618/#post-149431363

Era is doing fine in terms of making money. I wouldn't be worried about us specifically.

Something something...capitalist hellscape...bring on the revolution

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/on-22-12-2025-moba-network-released-a-statement-saying-share-trading-would-ceasejanuary-1st-2026-and-begin-a-full-strategic-review-of-the-company.1393618/

Era is doing fine in terms of making money. I wouldn't be worried about us specifically.

Guess their "lets sell our consumer data to train AI" pivot wasnt sucessful. Who knew

[Uncle]

   

[killamajig]

[Straight Edge]

Ridley naked? Isn’t he a cyborg alien dragon?

[Uncle]

Ridley naked? Isn’t he a cyborg alien dragon?

metroid other m rape scene (warning, graphic)  

[Potato]

Still annoyed that the site was founded on co-ownership and that betrayed that by buying all the shares and sellinv it for profit

Yet you're still there...retard.

If it came to it I'm sure we'd survive another warp jump.

Not sure many people would want to migrate to the same spot as you, freak.

Oh no I hear Fandom knocking, can't wait to read the site through a barrage of ads that only let me read a line at a time

As opposed to the current experience, you fucking dickhead? 

Era is doing fine in terms of making money. I wouldn't be worried about us specifically.

Given your track record, I'll see about hosting us some webspace.

 

[Uncle]

If it came to it I'm sure we'd survive another warp jump.

Not sure many people would want to migrate to the same spot as you, freak.

era users when era shuts down:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

name the movie I give you 5 dolor

[kaleidoscopium]

Maybe some random toddler's dad will kick their asses when he sees them trying to spy on the daycare

https://www.resetera.com/threads/creepy-racist-assholes-drive-around-minnesota-asking-to-see-the-children-at-daycares-accuses-every-daycare-that-didnt-comply-of-fraud.1393546/#post-149425384

I find it interesting how quickly they turn to violence as an answer when at a crossroads… but never via themselves, always a third party

[simiansmarts]

Ridley naked? Isn’t he a cyborg alien dragon?

metroid other m rape scene (warning, graphic)  

I just... shake my head when people stick up for Bananza. Did we play the same game?

There's a boss fight where King K. Rool uses his Banandium Root powers to cause mass destruction to the city skyline of New Donk City over and over, while Donkey Kong gets a POV of the helpless citizens watching in horror as their beloved city is destroyed, very clearly meant to give the impression that Donkey Kong is witnessing a 9/11 inspired terrorist attack. That isn't even touching the rest of the story (turning DK into a blubbering mess is truly the tip of the iceberg.)

I can't respect a game that thoughtlessly throws around real-world terrorism parallels in any capacity. The whole game is dripping in jingoism. It bothers me way too much to even start thinking about the gameplay (which was also bad)!

[Uncle]

Maybe some random toddler's dad will kick their asses when he sees them trying to spy on the daycare

https://www.resetera.com/threads/creepy-racist-assholes-drive-around-minnesota-asking-to-see-the-children-at-daycares-accuses-every-daycare-that-didnt-comply-of-fraud.1393546/#post-149425384

I find it interesting how quickly they turn to violence as an answer when at a crossroads… but never via themselves, always a third party

   

very cool rhetoric

"no no, I wasn't advocating for him to get kirk'd, I was just saying he was cruisin' for it, that's all! haha   "

[benji]

Uncle has been banned for posting footage of the clear rape of a neurodivergent disabled woman.

[Uncle]

Ridley naked? Isn’t he a cyborg alien dragon?

metroid other m rape scene (warning, graphic)  

I just... shake my head when people stick up for Bananza. Did we play the same game?

There's a boss fight where King K. Rool uses his Banandium Root powers to cause mass destruction to the city skyline of New Donk City over and over, while Donkey Kong gets a POV of the helpless citizens watching in horror as their beloved city is destroyed, very clearly meant to give the impression that Donkey Kong is witnessing a 9/11 inspired terrorist attack. That isn't even touching the rest of the story (turning DK into a blubbering mess is truly the tip of the iceberg.)

I can't respect a game that thoughtlessly throws around real-world terrorism parallels in any capacity. The whole game is dripping in jingoism. It bothers me way too much to even start thinking about the gameplay (which was also bad)!

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

https://famiboards.com/threads/the-anti-blackness-of-super-smash-bros-ultimate.88/