Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Uncle]

[filler]

 

[Boredfrom]

[Nintex]

[JoeBoy101]

In the Iranian thread someone asks...

Can someone update the thread title a bit further? I think we're sell past saying several have died.

BitchDubs comes in....

If someone can come up with a good title I'll change it out

What a lazy piece of shit. No wonder they don't update any rules. Just changing the thread title needs a member to do the work for them. 

Editing thread titles is hard.

In his defense…



I don’t think it’s lassitude on his part.

You just know people would be waiting in the wings ready to complain and bitch about what title he would choose for it.i think he’s trying to inoculate himself from a potential flare up.

[simiansmarts]

One detail about the Minneapolis shooting i find interesting is that the driver actually did endanger people in her vehicle AFTER she was shot in the face and her freshly deceased body became a dead weight on gas pedal resulting in the vehicle crashing into a post on the sidewalk. Good thing no bystanders were there!

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-happened-to-libertarian-types-they%E2%80%99re-awfully-silent.1403008/#post-149936242

Libertarians are cowards. They make noise during a Dem administration because they know they worst thing that can happen to them is be told to shut up. Under an authoritarian government they go quiet, lie down and show their bellies.

THat makes sense though I would think.

Libertarian mostly just care about business and money. During Dem admins, Dems will sometimes put forward policies that can help people but can stymie growth or limit businesses and so Libertarians complain.

A Republican run government usually doesn't have much of that at all and very much plays in a libertarian's favour.

Libertarianism is just a mask for saying "I don't want to be ruled by someone I don't like, but if it's someone I like, I'm okay with being ruled"

They were always full of shit

It's an inherently selfish stance. You don't want rules or taxes for yourself but you want rules for others so your stuff doesn't get stolen and you want taxes for others so you get infrastructure.

Libertarians were always just dumbass suburban closet Republicans. They of all groups should be absolutely furious about ICE and the extremely blatant overreach by the government, but asking an American libertarian to actually put their alleged worldview into practice is like asking a dog to dance a polka.

I feel like if you've been an observer for politics for decades, this shouldn't really come as a surprise to you?

They've always been closet conservatives at best.

You mean the temporarily embarrassed white supremacists?

Their 401Ks are doing fine, so they'd rather just be quiet.

For the most part, they got absorbed by right wingers. A handful went leftwards.

Free market ideals aren't en vogue anymore and the big companies are so big nowadays that they tend to want government regulations - in their favor. That especially goes for Tech, which used to be their strongest frontier.

They're always silent. They have to know where all the books are and make sure no one's being disruptive

Turns out they're all MAGA and they love this shit. The "don't tread on me" stuff was just a LARP and virtue signaling to their in-group.

It just so happens that Republicans are all about shredding what remains of the government institutions that could potentially impede the activities of the ownership class, so its not surprising that a lot of Libertarians suspiciously vanish when the admin commits various rights violations, so long as the end goal is the promised Galt's Gulch.

Libertarians are just Republicans with two differences.

1. They want to get high
2. They want to be open about being peodophiles.

Religion is the other thing, but they seem OK with that.

Remember, these are the politically informed people with too much empathy.

What's crazy is that in polls they still mostly side with self-identified Democrats on stuff like ICE, the economy doing poorly, being against tariffs, meddling abroad and Gaza but I think their political engagement ends when their computer turns off or they put down their phone.

[Boredfrom]

Free market ideals aren't en vogue anymore and the big companies are so big nowadays that they tend to want government regulations - in their favor. That especially goes for Tech, which used to be their strongest frontier.

[benji]

If only the libertarian movement had a century of saying this is the only way government regulations will go, in the favor of the established and politically connected.

[Nintex]

Just listened to the BBC and B-Dumbs needs to update the thread again.

BBC World One citing a witness testimony from Iran:

"The situation is far worse than what the world estimates. Based on my conversations with friends, I estimate that the number of people killed is over 10,000. In hospitals, they stack bodies together as if they were rice bags in a warehouse. Security forces are using Kalashnikovs, I saw it first hand. They shoot directly at lines of protestors and they fall to the ground"

[Uncle]

[nachobro]

I'm gonna be 40 next month and I live with my parents. I'm also disabled, but that's not really my excuse. My parents have told me that if I moved out their lives would be a lot harder. They kind of need me at this point. To watch my mom's blood sugar, to help with groceries and chores, to help pay the bills. People have different circumstances and maybe you should judge them less.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

American Leftist 2025: Iran’s Muslim regime is the only hope of salvation in Gaza and to finally destroy Israel. Send in Hezbollah to deal with the IDF. From the river to the sea!

American Leftist 2026: We need to save Iran from their theocratic regime. Why are they sending in Hezbollah on their own people?

More like: 

American Leftist 2026: We need to save the Iranian regime from the brain-washed protesters.

[Boredfrom]

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I thought Jeff Marvel was better than that

[Boredfrom]

Wait, bitch is genuinely batting for Iran? 

[benji]

More like: 

American Leftist 2026: We need to save the Iranian regime from the brain-washed protesters.

Wait, bitch is genuinely batting for Iran? 

"I oppose the US empire AND the Iranian regime!"

No, you support the US empire. If you desire the downfall of the Iranian government in today's present geopolitical reality, then you desire the expansion of US imperial power. It doesn't matter how much lip service you pay to opposing the US murder machine if in practice you are promoting the agendas of the worst warmongers in the DC swamp.

There is at this time no way Tehran can be toppled without the US-centralized empire inserting its rapey fingers into whatever power structure would emerge from the wreckage. When you overthrow a government you leave a power vacuum, and somebody's going to step into it. There is no clear movement, faction, or successor in Iran that is strong enough to secure power against whichever group the empire throws its support behind, besides the government that presently exists. This means the US empire would necessarily have a very prominent seat at the table in whatever system of government might replace the current one.

If you are a western imperialist then this is no problem for you; if you believe the US and its allies should rule the world then there is no contradiction in your desiring regime change in Iran. If you identify as a leftist, an anarchist, or an anti-imperialist however, there is no way to reconcile your worldview with a desire to fulfill the wildest regime change fantasies of every sociopathic intelligence agency and warmongering think tank in the western world.

The only way for such a character to avoid the cognitive dissonance of these contradictions would be to pretend they live in an imaginary fantasy land where the Iranian government could be overthrown without benefitting the US empire. The Iranian people just oust their government all on their own, and then set up a free liberal democracy that is entirely sovereign and independent from any external power structure. That's a fantasy. We do not live in that kind of world. We live in the world that actually exists.

It's not okay to avoid addressing reality like that. You can't just close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears and pretend the reality of our situation is different from what it actually is while helping to advance immensely consequential agendas driven by the most powerful people in the world. Being an authentic person means being real about reality and having a truth-based relationship with the world as it actually is.

I am not suggesting that Iranians do not have legitimate and organic grievances against their government, nor am I suggesting that they should not desire a different system of government for themselves, nor am I suggesting that they should refrain from doing whatever they think is best in their own country. What I am saying is that the westerners who are cheerleading for regime change in Iran are cheerleading for the advancement of the power structure under which they live, which also happens to be the most powerful empire that has ever existed, which also happens to be the most murderous and destructive power structure on earth.

[Jansen]

If you're over 30 years old and your metric for whether you've succeeded or not is residential independence, you're probably failing a bit in the thinking department. I was raised, decades ago, in a multigenerational household. Sometimes as many as 5 under one roof. And nowadays my parents, who raised five kids in the house of one of their sets of parents, are doing incredibly well financially for their education level. I don't live with them now but I have for multiple stints across my adult life, and the financial and social outlook were always better when I was living with them. I didn't have more trouble getting dates and relationships living there versus elsewhere, I just to had to approach it differently from the start.

They're obviously talking about the people who just give up and stay at home with their parents like the shredder

[Keetongu]

Ok since we're talking licensed ubisludge, what's the current consensus on that Avatar game?

Avatar seems uniquely suited to that particular, creativity-allergic, paint-by-numbers design that Ubi has crystallized into an exact science.

I'm not being sarcastic here: the formula has it's place, with IMO Pandora being a likely candidate.

It's okay, I had fun playing it. It's better than Far Cry at least, but it's very much blue Far Cry.

[Boredfrom]

I am not suggesting that Iranians do not have legitimate and organic grievances against their government, nor am I suggesting that they should not desire a different system of government for themselves, nor am I suggesting that they should refrain from doing whatever they think is best in their own country. What I am saying is that the westerners who are cheerleading for regime change in Iran are cheerleading for the advancement of the power structure under which they live, which also happens to be the most powerful empire that has ever existed, which also happens to be the most murderous and destructive power structure on earth.

[Nintex]

Why do we allow women on the internet

[HaughtyFrank]

"All I'm saying is that Iranian civilians need to defeat the AK-47 carrying soldiers organically"

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Star Wars: Outlaws is great, chuds.

[benji]

I was raised, decades ago, in a multigenerational household. Sometimes as many as 5 under one roof. 

Five generations? Really?

Or "as many as" five people? Because that's not that impressive. That's a regular red state house.

I don't live with them now but I have for multiple stints across my adult life, and the financial and social outlook were always better when I was living with them.

My financial outlook is also better when some of my expenses are paid by others. Yet my forum members continue to refuse to supply mutual aid for a RTX 5090 and 64GB of RAM.

[Potato]

Is good if the game is genuinely better than when launched. But ERA usually just hypes it as “it feels like Star Wars”   and comes from people desperate to up UbiSlop.

I've played Assassin's Creed Odyssey. If that's the best Ubisoft can do with open worlds, then I'm happy to ignore Outlaws.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mamdani-announces-plan-to-expand-public-bathroom-access-in-new-york.1402834/

Can he please run for president since the constitution just doesn't matter anymore...

I will matter for him as we know. Rule for me, not for thee with conservatives. Plus Dems are just rule followers too. Forget about it lol

 

So, while I do like this, and I do absolutely love the idea, the issue is the cost is going to be a huge bump in the road. The last time we tried this it cost a million dollars a bathroom, about two hundred thousand for the pre-fab bathroom itself and then like four times that for installation, which is an absolutely absurd price that made the project basically unviable. The crazy part is that this was touted as "cheap" compared to normal.

Like everyone says, its an absolutely amazing idea, and we desperately need more public bathrooms in the city, but I'm just afraid that the cost is going to limit how effective this can be and unless he can find a way to make it more reasonable we'll get a few in the city and that will be it.

We really gotta find a way to make building shit cheaper in this city.

Labor costs, logistics, plumbing, construction, property acquisition all adds up

The costs shouldn't be this insane though. Pretty much every mayor since Bloomberg has been trying to fix this issue and every single time costs ran so far out of control that they installed a handful of toilets, less than half a dozen each, and called it a day. Hell, Adams got these prefab toilets from Portland and the installation cost was 4 times that of the toilets themselves and as a result it was a million a toilet. There's something wrong with the cost of building stuff in this city and it's at the core of a lot of our issues.

Not with all those regulations you want you won't.  

Who cares about how much it costs? Seriously, if this is an idea you truly hold in high regard, the cost wouldn't be one of your first concerns!

Ah the timeless debate between neoliberalism and leftism. Lol

Because cost limits how effective it can be. If we can't figure out how to do it cheaper than a million dollars a toilet then we'll be building four of them for the money set aside for this and it'll wind up being a PR thing and not an actual solution to a very real problem.


You mean the debate between actually doing something and pretending to do something. Adams did this same shit and built all of four bathrooms.

Cost is a limiting factor for anything the public sector does, yes. There is a responsiblity not to misuse or waste public funds, yes. However, I'm trying to inspire some introspection into why people (you, but not necessarily you alone) have an reactionary need to immediately switch on their beancounter brain when discussing public measures to fund public welfare projects.

It promotes the idea that public welfare needs to be "worth it". That it needs to assuage the concerns of those who wouldn't even need to utilize these things! You can be a good citizen and trust/verify that public funds are used appropriately, but this need to jump at an annoucement of an objectively just project with concerns of how much it'll cost only serves to enforce this county's brutal heirarchy as well as the overall idea of austerity. It's lame.

I'm rolling my eyes. I've lived in this city my entire life and every damn mayor has tried to fix this exact problem and each and every single time they spend millions of dollars to build like four bathrooms and it never actually gets fixed. So get off your high horse.

I'd like the problem to actually get fixed! I don't give a shit about your ideological crap. The fact you think that matters more than actually fixing the problem says everything I gotta know. Like, dude, you aren't even from here.

Then your problem is with your elected officials failing to do right by the people, not the fact that it costed however much for a poor result.

Also, I don't need to have lived in NYC for X amount of time to sniff out austerity bullshit, it isn't exclusive to any one city. But hey I'm sure this'll be ripped apart in the city council meeting or something with testimony from people who coincidentally share your same concerns about cost. Just like they'll do with minimum wage increases, or affordable housing units, or drug disposal sites, or upzoning.

Perfect Era conversation.

I will never forget the time I was on the Upper West Side with a friend and had a bathroom emergency and had to use a basement bathroom in a Whole Foods and the only toilet that was available was literally filled almost to overflowing with diarrhea.

I was so sick after leaving the bathroom that I almost bit the manager's head off. You should never be in a position where something like that can happen.

Thanks as usual.

Man who shits himself regularly is passionate about public toilets. 


Bonus toiletsmasher lies makes this 

[Potato]

One detail about the Minneapolis shooting i find interesting is that the driver actually did endanger people in her vehicle AFTER she was shot in the face and her freshly deceased body became a dead weight on gas pedal resulting in the vehicle crashing into a post on the sidewalk. Good thing no bystanders were there!

Saw some interesting shit online about her. Couple of domestic abuse charges and child endangerment or some shit. Turns out she was no angel.

[Potato]

I am not suggesting that Iranians do not have legitimate and organic grievances against their government, nor am I suggesting that they should not desire a different system of government for themselves, nor am I suggesting that they should refrain from doing whatever they think is best in their own country. What I am saying is that the westerners who are cheerleading for regime change in Iran are cheerleading for the advancement of the power structure under which they live, which also happens to be the most powerful empire that has ever existed, which also happens to be the most murderous and destructive power structure on earth.

The Romans turned grisly public murder into sport and entertainment. They also literally salted the earth of some of their their enemies, destroying entire civilizations. Rome laughs at your idea of "most murderous and destructive power structure on earth".

[benji]

I will never forget the time I was on the Upper West Side with a friend and had a bathroom emergency and had to use a basement bathroom in a Whole Foods and the only toilet that was available was literally filled almost to overflowing with diarrhea.

I was so sick after leaving the bathroom that I almost bit the manager's head off. You should never be in a position where something like that can happen.

Thanks as usual.

Bonus toiletsmasher lies makes this 

I don't know if it's a lie, I can believe he saw a shitty toilet, used it and sheepishly didn't say anything.

[Alpacx]

I am not suggesting that Iranians do not have legitimate and organic grievances against their government, nor am I suggesting that they should not desire a different system of government for themselves, nor am I suggesting that they should refrain from doing whatever they think is best in their own country. What I am saying is that the westerners who are cheerleading for regime change in Iran are cheerleading for the advancement of the power structure under which they live, which also happens to be the most powerful empire that has ever existed, which also happens to be the most murderous and destructive power structure on earth.

Genghis Khan?

Throwing this here because there will be Reeeing about it:

Edit ' there's already a 5 page thread 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/epic-games-ceo-tim-sweeney-defends-twitters-ai-grok-against-calls-for-its-ban-over-sexualized-images-generation.1402753/