Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Uncle]

valve just rewrote their AI disclosure policy, because too many games were using AI to the point that disclosing it was pointless

now it's just for literally visibly AI-made content (textures), and if AI generation happens in-game (NPC generated dialogue)

of course, disclosure is still pointless and performative

[DavidCroquet]

Does Boredfrom get an alert when Uncle posts?

No really. I just get annoyed that Uncle insists adoption goes well when stuff like YouTube forcing you to use shitty subtitles even if they need to delete it in past videos. 

He is even repeating some Dr Poop talking points. (Obviously, NothingLoud is not totally wrong with of this stuff, he is just a prick than cannot express it).

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-remember-that-a-new-gears-of-war-game-was-announced-over-a-year-ago.1408642/page-2#post-150162076

 User Banned (Permanent): Pattern of drive-by trolling and cross forum drama across multiple threads, account in junior phase.

I often her that w@nk Jesse Norris from xboxera trying to promote that game.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-folks-remember-that-wind-waker-was-not-well-received.1406743/page-4#post-150095704

 User Banned (2 Weeks): Racist Rhetoric; Making Fun of Ethnic Language

Ah yes, Celda. I think I hated it for a long long time, until I got the WiiU with it included.
The bait and switch is what made me mad, the Link vs Ganondorf trailer was beyond incredible.

The GameCube was the only major Nintendo console I skipped, mostly because of this game. I actually bought the disc of Resident Evil 4 because my friend had a GameCube, but it was the only game we played.

Ironically Twilight Princess became my most hated Zelda game when I played on the Wii. Ugly artstyle, inconsistent story, Ganondorf felt forced into the ending. Gamespot 8 was accurate.

TLDR;

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/germany-joins-canada-sweden-and-other-nations-in-sending-troops-to-greenland-as-trump-threats-intensify.1406470/page-5#post-150149716

 User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory Commentary in Sensitive Thread

I wonder how all of this will play out, a part of me is happy for once it's not a brown or black people's country that's the target of conquest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

Ethnic groups (2020)  89.51% Greenlandic Inuit

[Boredfrom]

Does Boredfrom get an alert when Uncle posts?

No really. I just get annoyed that Uncle insists adoption goes well when stuff like YouTube forcing you to use shitty subtitles even if they need to delete it in past videos. 

He is even repeating some Dr Poop talking points. (Obviously, NothingLoud is not totally wrong with of this stuff, he is just a prick than cannot express it).

They got paid and they translated official stuff to English.  

Is not the only example because all the year I been suffering of shit subtitles (I have bad hearing) in other stuff in English because they want others to rely in the AI shit. The most egregious example was a clip of Smiling Friends were they keep writing “president Trump got shoot” 



I said to be a counter example of “making quality of life better” that Uncle is claiming. A feature that gets fucked up for no reason outside “we need to make those Ai metrics to look better” and even is affecting stuff before the policy was implemented.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/self-avowed-nazi-jake-lang-fucks-around-in-minneapolis-finds-out.1409314/

Surprise, one of the pardoned January 6-ers is a full-blown Nazi who tried creating his own "Support ICE" protest. It did not go well for Jake Lang, who was throwing up Nazi salutes just this week.

Not much in the thread, it just seems that Era admins are afraid of being too mean to Nazis in public.

[Boredfrom]

this sounds bad and everything, but as a non american looking at the state of US, I feel like unless democrats are willing to have their own coup attempt. nothing's probably gonna change. Trump do some insane shit, everyone shocked for awhile, than life just goes on like usual until the next Trump insane shit. Trump gets aways way too much, I think it's clear the problem is not just Trump. there are sizable enough people who agree with Trump that do whatever he say.

 

Look, I’m not from the U.S. and I also think that their politicians are doing a shit job about Trump (mainly his own party given how the ones risking more by waiting to do anything). 

But one thing I found annoying is how people demand the US population to “rise up and do something” like most of them were doing the same in their own countries.

I speak of experience given that my country situation is overall way worse than the USA but people are still able to live normal lives and most of us will not risk the political instability.

In that regard… how the fuck you propose that the Dems stage a coup while not controlling either government branch?  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/1-500-active-duty-army-paratroopers-have-been-put-on-alert-for-a-potential-deployment-to-minnesota.1409320/page-2#post-150200083

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/matt-damon-says-netflix-pushes-for-its-movies-to-account-for-users-being-on-their-phones-while-watching.1409233/page-2#post-150185002

No one's gonna say anything about Damon and Affleck being on the Nazi Enabling Podcast, huh?

[Taco Bell Tower]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/self-avowed-nazi-jake-lang-fucks-around-in-minneapolis-finds-out.1409314/

Surprise, one of the pardoned January 6-ers is a full-blown Nazi who tried creating his own "Support ICE" protest. It did not go well for Jake Lang, who was throwing up Nazi salutes just this week.

Not much in the thread, it just seems that Era admins are afraid of being too mean to Nazis in public.

Is that why they haven't banned Jeff Marvel?

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/matt-damon-says-netflix-pushes-for-its-movies-to-account-for-users-being-on-their-phones-while-watching.1409233/page-2#post-150185002

No one's gonna say anything about Damon and Affleck being on the Nazi Enabling Podcast, huh?

Listened to some of it earlier. There’s a long conversation about their production company building in systems so every member of the crew, from camera operator to gaffer, benefits from success instead of the top names. Matt Damon says that they’re communists. McCarthy qq.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Hopefully one of the distinguished fellows at the distinguished seminar brought lunch for the distinguished doctor who is literally starving to death (in a dignified manner).

There is nothing dignified about his manner.

[HaughtyFrank]

this sounds bad and everything, but as a non american looking at the state of US, I feel like unless democrats are willing to have their own coup attempt. nothing's probably gonna change. Trump do some insane shit, everyone shocked for awhile, than life just goes on like usual until the next Trump insane shit. Trump gets aways way too much, I think it's clear the problem is not just Trump. there are sizable enough people who agree with Trump that do whatever he say.

 

Look, I’m not from the U.S. and I also think that their politicians are doing a shit job about Trump (mainly his own party given how the ones risking more by waiting to do anything). 

But one thing I found annoying is how people demand the US population to “rise up and do something” like most of them were doing the same in their own countries.

I speak of experience given that my country situation is overall way worse than the USA but people are still able to live normal lives and most of us will not risk the political instability.

In that regard… how the fuck you propose that the Dems stage a coup while not controlling either government branch?  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/1-500-active-duty-army-paratroopers-have-been-put-on-alert-for-a-potential-deployment-to-minnesota.1409320/page-2#post-150200083

I can only imagine that they believe that protesters holding the capitol would actually result in a coup.

[Besticus Maximus]

Yall are dismissing the hard work the American political geniuses are engaging with, such as doing research and organising.

[BananaBlast]

Era likes to keep thirsting to a minimum if possible even if it comes from lesbians, it sounds silly but it's also something that can quickly get out of control so i understand mods hard stance on this.

We all know she looks beautiful, i agree but it's best to not type it.

Bootlicking aside, it's not "keeping the thirsting to a minimum". It's "men being attracted to women is a crime". Era goes out of their fucking way to thirst over plenty of male characters and real people. FFXVI threads abruptly bringing up Clive and his ""titties"". GTA6 threads ogling Jason like crazy. Chris Redfield getting called all sorts of flirty words. And in more serious conversations, like about life and death, mods/admins start swooning over Luigi Mangione in the middle of nowhere.

[benji]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/s/ibNN3oJ8At

This is the reason why I actually got pissed off.

YouTube not even allowing keeping human made substitutes in past stuff. WTF are we doing? 

I dunno Uncle, that sounds like a corpo is making my quality of life a little worse for the metrics. 

This is surely the first time that YouTube has ever done anything that has pissed off mass numbers of users or forced changes on everyone. Why would AI do this?

this sounds bad and everything, but as a non american looking at the state of US, I feel like unless democrats are willing to have their own coup attempt. nothing's probably gonna change. Trump do some insane shit, everyone shocked for awhile, than life just goes on like usual until the next Trump insane shit. Trump gets aways way too much, I think it's clear the problem is not just Trump. there are sizable enough people who agree with Trump that do whatever he say.

Look, I’m not from the U.S. and I also think that their politicians are doing a shit job about Trump (mainly his own party given how the ones risking more by waiting to do anything). 

But one thing I found annoying is how people demand the US population to “rise up and do something” like most of them were doing the same in their own countries.

I speak of experience given that my country situation is overall way worse than the USA but people are still able to live normal lives and most of us will not risk the political instability.

In that regard… how the fuck you propose that the Dems stage a coup while not controlling either government branch?  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/1-500-active-duty-army-paratroopers-have-been-put-on-alert-for-a-potential-deployment-to-minnesota.1409320/page-2#post-150200083

I can only imagine that they believe that protesters holding the capitol would actually result in a coup.

You can understand their fear that January 6th was a legitimate threat that brought the country to the brink and nearly succeeded in a coup in one of the oldest republics when you recognize that Trump's plan of "Mike Pence says Trump won and everyone just accepts this" is the same level of detailed planning for almost anything they personally engage in.

[benji]

Man, listen...he touched upon all of the frustrations that I felt in that other thread where the non Americans felt empowered while dunking on Americans over the Trump administration. Who the fck are you to try and scold me for this country's shortcomings when we have been struggling for hundreds of years just to be viewed as human beings? My God it's refreshing to hear someone actually try to relate to our struggle from a humanitarian perspective; come off of that high horse and actually put your self in the oppressed' shoes! I'm so tired; where are the real allies? This forum is full of bad actors.

and ultimately comes to the conclusion that a politic not rooted in the insights, contributions, and interests of Black liberation is ultimately a waste of time.

100%. It's just white people/imperialists naval gazing and reinventing the wheel so they can feel progressive without having to think about or interact with people who aren't white. Whether it's due to ignorance or not, it keeps real progress from happening.

This is one very important video that encapsulates a lot.

This forum is full of bad actors.

It's less bad actors and more like people are scared at the fact that being in the West, or being white, or being well off, was not going to save them from the fascism we could see coming from a mile away due to the degradation in conditions from neoliberalism running it's course. And the reason they were blindsided is because they have no space nor care for the people this shit was already happening to, because fascism against Black people is necessary for the comfort of the West to be maintained. Universal healthcare, basic infrastructure, work from home, access to frivolous technology- all this shit is maintained off the backs of Black people, and every country in the West is extremely complicit in this oppression.

That's why I'm not moved by Europeans calling for any action to stop fascism (although that does not mean we should not fight and organize). Because where the fuck where you all for the last 500 years?

The most salient point Sang makes is the one where he states non-black people who have attained the privileges of white adjacency/acceptance don't mind being beneath white people in the hierarchy - they care more about ensuring black people remain at the bottom. It's the thing that I constantly harp on because even on here people will see a non-black minority spew anti black rhetoric and say something along the lines of, "They trying to be white", or "Haven't you looked in the mirror? You're a minority too!", completely missing the fact that they kowtow to whiteness specifically to distance themselves from blackness.

And we saw this exact thing play out on fucking national television too, didn't we? The racist season of Big Brother saw an Asian and Jewish woman outright abandon the lone black woman to fend from Ms. Aryan HoH by herself the MOMENT she accepted them into the fold. And then non-black people wonder why a (growing) contingent of black people feel we truly have no allies.

That's why I'm not moved by Europeans calling for any action to stop fascism (although that does not mean we should not fight and organize). Because where the fuck where you all for the last 500 years?

Europeans acting like they didn't invent the seeds of white supremacy that is manifest destiny and colonialist imperialism will always come across as tone deaf.

It's basically "You weren't supposed to colonize us, you morons!" Seriously, that's all I hear on this forum.

Because let's be real. Say we overthrow Trump tomorrow and forcibly return to a neoliberal stasis where everything is like the "good ol'" Obama days or some shit.

What are France and Canada actually going to do for Africa? Great Britain, Italy, Spain, Norway, Denmark, Belgium? What is Australia doing for its Indigenous?

Nothing. And none of these people finally realizing fascism is a problem will actually put their lives on the line for the colonized when we eventually get out of this mess. The unspoken implication is that Black people are supposed to die for a system meant to maintain Western supremacy. And if that's the case, fuck it all.

What is Australia doing for its Indigenous?

Serious answer: dilly-dallying on truth telling, reconciliation, treaty. Indigenous people in Australia have been incredibly gracious in holding out their hand for a way forward, only for the voting mass to shun them.

The country isnt mature enough to fully acknowledge the genocides that happened here.

Good video, nothing too groundbreaking from where I'm at on my ideological/political journey but still stuff for me to chew on.

Some good, salient points in lil bill's video as well. Wish his constant, repeated use of, "Suck my ****" and other fellatio references wasn't so triggering to my trauma. So, uh, content warning for anyone else that hasn't watched that video too.

Will watch in a bit but it's true as hell. The amount of ignoring black issues is prevalent heavy in all spectrums of American politics, even the left. White Americans just refuse to listen and now chickens have come home to roost because of it, nothing is ever a problem till it affects them personally.

Thank you for this.
I'm currently reading Black Reconstruction by WEB Dubois. We been going through the same shit for a long time. White people been leaving us out of conversations about morality and humanity for a long time. We been trying to tell white people the truth for a long time

It's overwhelming to know where to start, but I found this online and plan on reading it this weekend.

I think picking any book from Black leftist and revolutionaries is a start, and reading is absolutely fundamental to understanding (I'm in the throes of Fanon now). Like, How Europe Underdeveloped Africa is foundational.

But if people want to jump in to actual direct action, it's what I've been saying time, and time, and time again: join an organization.

It doesn't matter which organization. You don't have to find the one that's perfectly aligned and ready to blow up the system today, because you can always organizational hop (many activists do this throughout their lives.) But you need to be in community learning revolutionary theory and doing revolutionary work, and that's the easiest way to start: joining in with people already doing that work.

If you ain't got a membership to something, you already on the backfoot.

What's a good way to connect with a group in a given area? I'll admit that my ignorance extends so far that I don't even know how or what to search for.

Look up groups whose political work are within topics you're interested in: anti-racism, anti-imperialism, Indigenous rights, Pan-Africanism, mutual aid and community building, anarchism, etc. etc. Google and Reddit are your best friends in this regard, but if you've got politically active friends on Discord or whatever, they should have some suggestions. Some groups that were started by older civil rights figures are still around today or have branched off/merged with other groups. The one I'm in now is like 50-something years old at this point.

Once you find a group, go to their website. Most of the robust and long-running organizations have an official website with an initiation form you can fill out and, given that these groups tend to be relatively small operations and don't get a lot of internet traffic, you probably won't be waiting long for an email response back. I've been initiated within hours/a few days.

Once you've signed up, then show up to the next meeting. Relax, get a feel for the people and agenda there, be sociable, ask questions, and do the work in earnest. Sometimes it's just studying, sometimes you're doing grocery and supply runs, sometimes you'll be doing marketing, or maybe you'll be put on a project to build something like temporary shelter or a community garden. Whatever the group needs for you to do, step up to the plate. A lot of this stuff is actually pretty mundane work, no different from volunteering at a typical non-profit. You're not going to be given a gun and told to post up against cops or whatever (unless you join a militant organization which, hey, if you've got the spine for it, fair dues.) That's the thing. Most of the work regarding revolution is really about doing the menial, thankless labor, or doing a lot of reading lol.

Now, if you find you don't like the way the group runs, there's scheduling conflicts, it's not fulfilling to you, know you're not obligated to stay. Again, people organization hop all the time. Not every organization is one size fits all; you need to find your place in the movement towards liberation. But we all have a place in that movement. We just need to find it.

Nepenthe's advice is better than anything I could give but one thing they mentioned, that I wanted to stress, is the value in finding a space/group that aligns closest to your own values, time, energy, and sense of community. Joining a movement, or community, and contributing, can come with a lot of psychosocial stress given, you know, the nature of things, resulting in desperate sense unfulfilled urgency alongside feelings of failing to give/commit 'enough'. It leads to advocacy burnout and sometimes vicarious trauma for the persons (or people) involved.

It's okay to join a group and feel like the personalities and people aren't for you. It's okay to feel like the groups focus aren't aligned with your preferences and feelings, whether it's not doing enough or doing things in a way you feel are futile. The important piece is just being a part of a community, and contributing to that community, that aims for form community separate to the current way-of-things. So yeah, even shit like helping building shelters, doing some shopping runs, etc etc. It might seem pointless but this stuff is the bedrock of us looking out for each other, treating each other as equals, and elevating those who are subject to institutionalised persecution. And you can't know until you try!

As an example, in Australia one of the more vocal and active groups is the Socialist Alternative. They do a lot of really fantastic pro-Palestine work and protests, and a lot of great protests against industry and exploitation. They're full of really good people doing really good stuff. But, unfortunately, I don't really align with their interpretation of Trotskyism, I think their recruitment methodologies and means of engagement with the general public are ineffective and othering, and much of this stems from concerns I have for their leadership and direction which has, in the past, proven unstable at best and exploitive at worst. The ethos of their movement I support, and I wish them well, but I don't wish to commit my time to them specifically, and thus put my energy and time, where I can, into other First Nations advocacy and work. Something I need to do more of this year.

But the point is it's okay to try a community and not vibe with them, for whatever reasons. Because it's absolutely true; people will move around, shuffle, shift focus, etc. Such is the nature of it all.

Part of the reason why I've been so apathetic is because for basically my entire life, I have realized that anti-blackness is basically the root cause of all of societal issues. As long as marginalized communities continue to dunk on my people for the chance to promote to the white table, nothing is going to get better. Eventually, white people won't need the cover provided.

We told you that you'll be in the crosshairs one day. We told you that marginalized communities need to stick together rather than seek white approval. We told you to not make excuses of the Europeans rape of Africa and try to dunk on Americans for racism, because y'all are all the same in my eyes.

It's exhausting that people are crying out now when we told you what was going to happen for centuries.

Ngl, when someone posted this video in the newest Greenland thread and a poster just dismissed it as "it sounds like whining and dodging responsibility" I almost crashed the fuck out.

It is painfully clear that a lot of people here are absolutely not allies in any sense of the word

The idea that "we're either we're all free or none of us our free" is apt and a point worth repeating.

The most annoying thing about the 2024 election cycle was hearing white people complain about how Democrats focused too much on minorities and LGBT (and especially trans) people and not enough on the economy.

And it's like... the only reason we had to do that is that Republicans keep eroding basic freedoms by targeting these groups with punitive bullshit just for existing. They made it a thing that had to be fought against. And when we don't push back on that stuff and shore up the freedom wall, they keep pushing upriver until everyone suffers from the punitive bullshit.

That on top of it just being the right thing to do to liberate everyone and give them equal entitlement to self-determination.

nonsense

Sorry if sappy, but you reminded me of a poem for the times...



Still the idea to join teams, organizations, JOINING OTHERS PERIOD is a great bare minimum to help with so much of the work to do. The trajectory is for things to remain bad and get worse unless resistance is shown and known.

Ngl, when someone posted this video in the newest Greenland thread and a poster just dismissed it as "it sounds like whining and dodging responsibility" I almost crashed the fuck out.

It is painfully clear that a lot of people here are absolutely not allies in any sense of the word

I didn't want to wade in because there are points being made about general American apathy, but it's also telling it's a bunch of white people mad at the injustice of colonialism possibly happening to them because they sure weren't going hard during America's other shenanigans. Were they screaming do something when their own governments were making shitty deals with the devil?

Great thread. Not even 50 posts but so much to make fun of.

[benji]

[Potato]

Era likes to keep thirsting to a minimum if possible even if it comes from lesbians, it sounds silly but it's also something that can quickly get out of control so i understand mods hard stance on this.

We all know she looks beautiful, i agree but it's best to not type it.

Bootlicking aside, it's not "keeping the thirsting to a minimum". It's "men being attracted to women is a crime". Era goes out of their fucking way to thirst over plenty of male characters and real people. FFXVI threads abruptly bringing up Clive and his ""titties"". GTA6 threads ogling Jason like crazy. Chris Redfield getting called all sorts of flirty words. And in more serious conversations, like about life and death, mods/admins start swooning over Luigi Mangione in the middle of nowhere.

I love the qualifier "even if it comes from lesbians" as if that excuses what they consider poor behaviour from anyone else.

[Bootsthecat]

"The waitress at Olive garden smiled at me and gave me extra bread sticks. P sure she wants to fuck"

[simiansmarts]

[benji]

"The waitress at Olive garden smiled at me and gave me extra bread sticks. P sure she wants to fuck"

Is this not how it works? I mean, I have anxiety so I didn't say anything or make eye contact but I'm a pretty good reader of people because of my massive empathy.

[Snoopy]

I saw a YT video of them thar ICE goons walking around with their leader. He was swaggering about, mean mugging the grannies. Looked like a right little cunt. I don't understand how he's still alive. Or how his mall cops aren't barricaded in their building cowering in fear. You Americans have got millions of guns. The fuck are you doing? Put down the barbecue chicken and go sort it out. Lazy.

[benji]

Well, my assumption would be that most people aren't fans of serving life in prison. Also like at least two-thirds of people support deporting illegal immigrants. Only like 15% of people are against any deportations.

[benji]

Hat-tip Shreds about new gooner apocalypse:

I'm going to ignore the normal "this isn't how laws work" to focus on "this isn't how sales taxes work." The person who made the product doesn't pay them.  

Anna's readers don't know either and also some of them start to come out for massive tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires and the bulk of the US tax system in general:


Others get to the real root of the problem and believe that Anna's concerns should be dropped because such redefinitions could be used for good:

 

Also our expert journalist didn't even read to the second line of the bill:


So he didn't see it refers to existing Utah law which looks the same as everywhere else:

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-10#post-15020383

Man European Era posters really hate America. It's amazing how many posts are happening like this lately. Not only are we hated by the American right, but also the people on here. We should die, I guess.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-10#post-150203839

Americans really are the goat when it comes to weaponizing their country's own self-inflicted problems.
Like a toddler waving a gun at the world and we all have to participate and entertain its every command, otherwise it shoots one of us in the leg. While at the same time constantly hurting itself and we all have rush to care and aid them because *Well if the US suffers the world economy suffers too, so you HAVE TO CARE*. Like im fucking tired of this clown show, I rather direct what little sympathy I have day to day, to a country that didn't elect a child rapist.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-10#post-150203917

When people use ACAB, do you go *well there are good cops that you are now also hating on, not all cops are bad!"

Because that's exactly what you are doing right now. *Not all Americans*. We know. It's not our responsibility to add a list with all Americans we do not hate every time we post in a thread about America being a fucking ghoul. Deal with it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-10#post-150204040

Well said.

A lot of American posters suddenly feeling the need to clench their necklaces, when it's about their country.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-10#post-150204139

This is a terrible analogy because black Americans are victims of police and now you're basically implying it's black Americans that are responsible for Trump's atrocities. I'm not really upset, I'm just surprised y'all keep trying to make this "not all x" allegory and not realizing how tone-deaf that is. But if that's the hill you want to die on then that's fine. Also the "make a list of all Americans we do not hate" is a ridiculous strawman and you know it.


"Do you expect people who are currently under threat of the US government to be chill about the US?" Uh... no? Did you read the post I quoted? This is some pancake and waffle stuff.
I honestly would like to be banned because yeah this place isn't good for my mental health.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-10#post-150204139

I think you gravely misunderstood that poster's analogy… the comparison is about how there are good cops but it is the whole organisation that is the problem where the police force as a whole is responsible for change. So all American citizens are responsible for this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-10#post-150204187

"Bad faith" sure, whatever.

You've been out here snapping at Canadians who are mad at the US for weeks, while the moderating team bans half of us because we're hurting B-Dubs' feelings.

I know people have said this to you before but it's worth repeating. It may not be your fault for Trump — though something like 60-70% of the voting population is directly at fault, so, a pretty big majority — but fixing this is the responsibility of every single American. Period. Americans are going to continue to take heat until Trump is removed one way or another.

That's your reality now, just like the threat of being bombed and invaded by the US is now my reality.

I suggest exercising a little self restraint and walking away yourself. If you need a ban to stop, you've got bigger problems.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-16-2026-donald-trump-issues-new-tariff-threat-for-countries-that-dont-support-us-control-of-greenland.1408390/page-10#post-150204355

Yeah, I understood. And that's an insane false equivalency because you're saying the oppressors and the oppressed are equally responsible which is insane. If you want to say every campaigning PoC, disabled activist, Trans people are constantly stripped of their rights by this very country, that it's their fault that Trump is an imperialist piece of shit terrorizing not only other countries but his own people then that's your prerogative to do so in your venting threads, just be aware that's what you're doing. I'm glad there's people outside of this forum that have a more intersectional perspective at least...

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It may not be your fault for Trump — though something like 60-70% of the voting population is directly at fault, so, a pretty big majority

edit: Oh, does he mean 60-70% of the eligible population? Basically saying that Black and trans people should vote for genocide.

[benji]

That's your reality now, just like the threat of being bombed and invaded by the US is now my reality.

And the existence of his reality is not up for debate.

American foreign policy has always been terrifying and now we are all feeling the opening salvo of what the global south has felt for decades. Let's hope we don't experience the rest of what they have gone through. Everyone one of us American "allies" have had a hand in signing off on American crimes for so long and many times even helped them. All our ledgers are totally fucked. We all helped make this bed and we all need a severe ideological shift in our world view if and when the dust settles. If post Trump I see a single fucking person urge a regime change in the global south I will lose it.

Large-scale economic sanctions. Ban our tech companies from doing business in the EU. Hit him in the wallet and hit the entire economy in the fucking balls. Force the country into an even starker recession than we're already in right now until his supporters start to tear each other apart and Republican congressmen start panicking and throwing shit at the walls to save themselves.

The only thing he understands is losing money. It's the only thing he's afraid of. So do that to him.

I agree but for different reasons, I think it is time for Europe to embrace China as a strong economic partner, US is not the future for Europe.

I want the EU to raise tariffs, not on goods and services, but on capital and profits from the US stock market, treasure papers and US investments. That seems only fair. We start at 15% for all stock and financial transactions starting Februari 1st, and we'll raise it to 25% if anything would happen with Greenland.

Trump isn't going to fucking listen to us. I don't know how many fucking times it needs to be said.

Protesting. Will. Not. Deter. Him.

At best, we spin up a few more big protests and then Trump has thousands of people massacred in the streets while his propaganda news outlets lie about the reason behind it. Nothing is accomplished aside from a bunch of dead leftists. So what then? What does it take for you to realize that the only thing a wannabe strongman responds to is equal or greater strength?

Congratulations. You are aware of the risks of a revolution and the sacrifices it would require.

Actual changes tend to be accompanied by hundreds or thousands dead. Ask any LATAM or MENA country.

I'm not telling Americans to go out to the streets and die, but if you are worried about being massacred, then nothing will happen. People are allowed to fear for their lives, but they also do not get to tell outsiders to do it in their instead.

Just know that by trying to avoid a domestic massacre, you're facilitating a foreign one. When dead Mexicans/Canadians/Greenlanders start popping up, do not go "someone must stop Trump". That's the onus of US citizens.

Then the US Citizens should fuck with their econmony, do general strikes, boycott every company that supports the gop, street blockades and so on... but that ain´t gonna happen because americans wont fight back their own fasciscm if it might hurt them.

Which is why US protests are considered a fucking joke by outsiders. In the end, they're still beholden to capitalism as no one wants to jeopardize their own economic situation to enact true change.

"Occupy Wall Street" was a good idea, as you can deal a ton of economic damage in this one relatively little area. Why the fuck hasn't it happened again? Are people too afraid to be labeled terrorists by a government who calls any leftists terrorists?

It has to be from both fronts. Expecting a bunch of leftists to suicide charge a wall of bullets while the rest of the world goes "not our problem" isn't going to fix anything. There has to be major external economic pressure paired WITH internal pressure until the entire system breaks trying to account for both.

We have protests every single day but it is literally not enough without major economic pressure that causes the business leaders propping Trump up to turn on him. It has to be from both sides.

It's as I said. There is no way out of this that is accomplished without joint action from internal and external forces. We can't do it by ourselves, and unless the rest of the world is willing to strike at us economically, the forces of capitalism will just bend over backwards to keep the rich fucks doing all of this damage in power. Trump basically installing sympathetic cronies in every major media outlet has made sure of that.

It sucks. It sucks for literally everybody, worldwide. Nothing would make me happier than a swift end to this bullshit, not just for my own safety but for the economic, social and political stability of the rest of the world. I'm with you there. I just don't think there's any route out of this that isn't built on collaboration between internal and external forces.

History tells us that 3 to 4% of the population of a country protesting is more than enough to overthrow a government. In the US that would be 12 to 14-ish million people. You can probably do that in California and East Coast alone.

I literally told you what I would like the EU to do. Major economic sanctions or at least banning/massively fining US tech companies (Meta, Tesla, etc) from activity in the EU unless they divest themselves of their investments in the Trump administration should not be enough to cripple your economy, but it WOULD be enough to seriously harm OURS, which is what we need to get the leverage to make major changes here.

The only thing Trump is afraid of is losing money. That's the only way to hurt him.

Damaging the US economy is something every US Citizen can do themself. They are just too lazy in my opinion. Right don´t protest in from of Congress, thats stupid anyway. Protest by blocking traffic, Parking lots of Gouverment Buildings, Roads and so on, fuck up your own economy, you don´t need others to do that. Yes they will come, yes there will be violence but has there ever be meaningful change without violence? What you are asking for is USA starting WW3 and Trump is gonna use nukes to get what he wants.

I'm done. Let's just bring on the extinction event meteor and be done with it. Nothing's going to get better, and we're all just going to hate each other forever. Nobody's even taking a second to think about or even consider anybody else, it's just an endless loop of petty sniping and snarky snap-backs against people who all want the same fucking thing.

If we can't even find common ground here, the planet is fucking done for.

And yet they managed to use pickup trucks to shut down a city. They used social media to broadcast their entire trip across the country, gaining additional losers as they went. A spin off protest knew to shut down the bridge in Windsor/Detroit because rednecks from the equivalent of flyover states know that hurting the economy gets your point across.

And did that protest accomplish anything? From what I recall it was a few days of awkward uncertainty before the government lashed out at them, then the idiots gave up and went home and didn't get anything they wanted.

I struggle to understand how a failed right-wing protest really compares to the kind of collective, country-wide action you're asking for. They mounted a targeted opposition and got squashed by the government and that was the end of it. The difference is that Canada's government doesn't WANT to murder its own people. Trump very clearly does.

They choked up the capital of the country for weeks, forcing businesses to close and traffic to be rerouted, with just that many people and a bit of planning and you're going to act like you don't see the point being made?

It's just so bad faith. Or ignorant. I can't tell anymore.

As I keep saying. There are protests all over the country every single day. They don't get reported on because our entire news apparatus is a slave to Trump's administration. Many of them are larger than the Canadian convoy ever was even at its peak. Renee Good is dead because of one of those protests.

What I don't understand is why people are using an example of a protest that failed to accomplish any of its goals as some kind of "take that". "These idiots impacted the economy and then went home and got nothing for their trouble" isn't the argument you think it is. Especially when, as I said previously, the Canadian government wasn't (and still isn't) itching for excuses to mass-execute swathes of their own people, because the Canadian government isn't run by fascist monsters.

At the end of the day I just don't think this is a productive line of conversation because it inevitably spins in the direction of "if hundreds of you aren't being shot to death, you're doing it wrong".

The common ground should be that America created this problem themselves, and needs to fix it themselves.

Fucking destroy your own economy if you are unhappy with that's going on. Burn tires on the roads to prevent trucks carrying products from getting anywhere, or occupy places of significant economic importance. Never heard of "seizing the means of production"?

You might get labelled a terrorist or shot at, but guess what, you are very close to a situation where the government will already do that for the flimsiest reasons (you cannot just avoid a bully if they really want you). A white woman was shot for just driving and the right just happily calls her a terrorist after all. You're free to stay at home and I can even understand that fear, but do not act like outsiders must be the ones to throw the first stone.

For all the handwaving about "Oh we can never do anything, the country is too big, there's no way to manage anything or for people to seriously gather together", the dumbest bumblefucks the USA has to offer sure did somehow nearly manage it and nearly took the US senate by force despite not having a functioning brains worth of cells between them in January 6th 2021.

If the residents of the USA actually wanted to stop this madness, they could, but the country is still at the point where they're OK with the suffering being forced on them rather than through an active decision they made to try and get back to a better world. Maybe if and when people can no longer desperately grip on to "midterms will stop him!" as a hope to avoid having to actually do anything

Honestly, at this point i would be surprised if even that managed to snap them out of it.

Personally, i just learned over the last year to minimize all interactions with the US, and that if Trump wish to invade my country starts, that i will probably be dead on the front lines soon after because i won't stand and let my country dissapear due to "US exceptionalism".

Forget about Trump. The pressure can work on people around him who have lots of money.

You mean the people who literally fuck off out of the country to places unknown whenever things get even slightly uncomfortable?

Part of the problem here is that the major drivers of the US economy right now are tech megafirms that make a LOT of their money from being active and selling their services worldwide. I don't think slowing down the freight industry has the same power it had 60 years ago when so much of our economic power is tied up in digital services now. I completely agree that scaring the billionaires that prop Trump's admin up would have substantial knock-on effects, but the problem is that the majority of their infrastructure can't be shut down by a bunch of people standing in the street the way it could if our economy was still primarily powered by US Steel or other physical industries and literally preventing delivery of product drags the entire country to a standstill.

That's why I was suggesting the EU put major sanctions on the US tech firms. Punish Microsoft, punish Meta, punish Tesla, punish Google. Strike at the pillars holding up the administration. I already spend as little of my money as possible on those companies as it is, but the entire world needs to be united in eroding their economic soft power.

Europe needs to start selling US bonds, that will crater the economy real quick.

The US is the only place that can effectively do something about Big Tech, since they're all headquartered there. Just because they provide digital services does not mean they are untouchable, or are you saying that Google, Facebook are run by digital ghosts in hologram offices?

Sanctions can deal damage, but they alone cannot meaningfully change the situation. The US is still the biggest consumer of US tech.

And that's why I keep saying this needs to be a combination attack. Sanctions and collective action. Either one on its own isn't enough, but a combined push from both sides against Big Tech could chip away at their armor and make their executives scared enough to push away from supporting Trump in lockstep.

The Jan 6 protesters were more effective than anything anyone on the left side of the isle can do.

J6 wasn't a protest, it was a violent attempted coup/insurrection.

If were Europe, I'd do a MEGA commercial DEAL with CHIIINA, like nothing the world has ever seen. Lift even sanctions, if they even exist, towards their new biggest ally.

They mobilized against a fake idea, there was no fact on what they were rallying against. Yet everyone republican and democrat were scared shitless.

You have all the evidence in the world, all the rights to do something about everything that's going on. Yet you do nothing.

There's a quote from DBZA, it's stupid where it comes from, but the words do apply to all of you in America right now.

"You think you're better than everyone else, but there you stand: the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles into blood-stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns. You were a coward...to your last whimper."

If it doesn't affect Americans bottom line they don't care. End of the story.

Theres a deeply rooted layer of American exceptionalism that refuses to acknowledge that if Trump keeps going down this path, eventually a country is going to hit back at US citizens.

So all the "Well, if I go protest something bad might happen to me!" rhetoric kinda falls apart when the "do nothing" path is also going to lead to something bad happening, with the potential of that increasing every day. It becomes quite clear that apathy has deeply set in and the thought for many Americans is "no one will hit back, we have the biggest army" as if they have learned nothing about repeated failures of American operations in foreign countries, nor factored in that Trump is starting to get overly aggressive with countries who have millions of loyal citizens already in the US.

Like, Trump has been talking about attacking either Mexico or Canada, and both of those absolutely result in American lives directly impacted, cities burning and who you voted for ain't going to matter for shit once civilians start dying in those countries. And that's not fear mongering, it's reality.

The ONLY people who can stop Trump from continuing his escalation right now before your country crosses an even more dangerous line is the American people. That doesn't mean violent uprising, but it does mean to get real creative with ideas and even if there's "few" of you protesting, use the people you have to maximum efficiency by ensuring you are protesting at places that grind his economy or ideals to a halt.

All of this. Want to protest and do economic damage at the same time? Organize boycotts against companies and services supporting the regime. Let them know they're being boycotted. Find out who's running ads in services and TV networks that are absolutely not doing coverage they should and target those as well, let them know they reason they're being targeted. Inflict all the pain and put as much pressure through as many channels you can.

In addition, if American media not covering actions is the fear, sounds like you found one of the top targets to grind to a halt.

There really aren't any "safe" major media outlets left, they've all been corrupted, bought out or hard-pivoted to backing Trump. People can certainly call them and try to get advertisers to pull out, but I don't know how much of an impact that's going to have anymore. Most non-Trump-loving people just seem to be giving up on national media entirely, and the Trump voters aren't pivoting to watching MSNBC or CBS News.

Maybe CBS News losing viewers day in day out and basically being looked at as a national embarrassment will force them to pivot away from being Trump News, but as long as Bari Weiss is in control I don't think their tune is going to change.

I actually theorize that long-term we're going to see a lot of these news outlets close up shop, because they sacrificed their baked-in audience in favor of one that won't ever care what they have to say. And that just results in less media sources entirely and the only ones that remain being arch-right news sources funded by hostile billionaires.

Hilarious thread.

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Well, my assumption would be that most people aren't fans of serving life in prison. Also like at least two-thirds of people support deporting illegal immigrants. Only like 15% of people are against any deportations.

Prison? Please. Nobody’s going to prison. Americans are literally being filmed shooting innocent women 3 times in the face, then going for hamburgers. As for not shooting mall cops because people support deporting illegal immigrants? Wut?  Stop trying to find excuses. 
If those dumb goons tried strutting around in Belfast like that they’d be set on fire within minutes. Do you know how finicky petrol bombs are? You have to get the right bottles. They have to be the right size and not too fragile but not too heavy so you don’t strain your shoulder. You have to fill them with the right amount of petrol. Then get cloth that doesn’t burn too quickly or too slowly. Then get a decent lighter, carry the bottles to the protests, find the right vantage point, light the cloth and throw them over the cop’s riot shields. It’s a whole thing. Meanwhile all you Americans have to do is pick up one of your guns, drive to an abandoned building across from the goon house, climb a few stairs, shoot goon, go back home for hamburgers. Literally the easiest thing in the world.

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Prison? Please. Nobody’s going to prison. Americans are literally being filmed shooting innocent women 3 times in the face, then going for hamburgers. As for not shooting mall cops because people support deporting illegal immigrants? Wut?  Stop trying to find excuses. 
If those dumb goons tried strutting around in Belfast like that they’d be set on fire within minutes. Do you know how finicky petrol bombs are? You have to get the right bottles. They have to be the right size and not too fragile but not too heavy so you don’t strain your shoulder. You have to fill them with the right amount of petrol. Then get cloth that doesn’t burn too quickly or too slowly. Then get a decent lighter, carry the bottles to the protests, find the right vantage point, light the cloth and throw them over the cop’s riot shields. It’s a whole thing. Meanwhile all you Americans have to do is pick up one of your guns, drive to an abandoned building across from the goon house, climb a few stairs, shoot goon, go back home for hamburgers. Literally the easiest thing in the world.

 You fetishists are so fucking weird.

And yes, if you publicly murder police, especially feds, the police will send you to prison if you manage to survive when they come for you.