Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Orange Juice Box]

Nepenthe never answered this question and then 20 posts later B-dubs closed it.  I wonder if Nepenthe asked for B-Dubs to do that for her when she gets too heated.  Or if B-Dubs just closes threads he sees her posting in and the animosity between them grows.




https://www.resetera.com/threads/tourettes-activist-shouts-n-word-at-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-during-baftas-telecast.1443331/page-10#post-151722967

Just sit in the back, or better yet, a separate area.

[Boredfrom]

Didn’t know that Princess Bubblegum didn’t like Kpop Demonhunters:

Criterion needs to stay relevant but this irks me A LOT. They have a real blind spot when it comes to animation and I doubt this changes anything.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/‘kpop-demon-hunters-’-guillermo-del-toro’s-‘frankenstein’-joining-criterion-collection.1443793/page-2#post-151737541

[Boredfrom]

Beggars cannot be choosers, Princess.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tourettes-activist-shouts-n-word-at-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-during-baftas-telecast.1443331/page-3#post-151714948

Context is everything. Nothing can be done here. Mature adults see it for what it is and go about your day.

While this specific situation is unfortunate, what is also unfortunate was that Black people were essentially told by the world at large to merely accept their dehumanization. This is just another instance in a long cultural trend/pattern of white people insisting that they are going to treat Black people as lesser than, because they have a condition, or because they were angry, or because it's not who they are, and that it is Black people are the ones that need to show grace every single time it happens.

The overall response towards Black people being angry that two Black men were called the n-word isn't maturity. It's just white supremacy.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tourettes-activist-shouts-n-word-at-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-during-baftas-telecast.1443331/page-3#post-151715158

That's a real shame. Did BAFTA not even think to check in with them and see how they felt?

Checking in with Black people to see how we feel?

Lol, what world do you think you're living in? We aren't full human beings.

More Dr Nep...

Anxiety absolutely can become debilitating to the point of being a disability. Some such people are my past patients and some of my closest friends, and I don't agree with nor appreciate your dismissal there.

Regardless, I already said I don't hold Davidson responsible. I hold white people responsible for hand waving away the harm that the N-word inherently carries.

He isn't the problem. You all are.

It's dehumanizing to believe that Black people are inherently harmed by a single word in a single language ever being uttered for any reason.

Situations like this just make me wonder if, for all our efforts , we all ultimately can never truly have anyone on our sides but our own.

Yes, because you're all narcissists who demand the world conform to your wishes.

They don't really care. They just want to sportswash as much as they possibly can before tanking Evo and selling it for whatever scraps are left after their purpose is fulfilled for the Saudi Government

https://www.resetera.com/threads/evo-series-expands-5-new-events-to-south-america-china-saudi-arabia-morocco.1444174/

What could you possibly believe is the "purpose" of owning a fighting game tournament for the Saudi Government?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dc-comics-so-white.1443352/#post-151720033

DC is run by white liberals who don't view race as a priority. The way they've handled black history month is proof. Like only THREE variants, and like two blog post so far........

Pictured, the white liberal who has run DC since 2020:

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Didn’t know that Princess Bubblegum didn’t like Kpop Demonhunters:

Criterion needs to stay relevant but this irks me A LOT. They have a real blind spot when it comes to animation and I doubt this changes anything.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/‘kpop-demon-hunters-’-guillermo-del-toro’s-‘frankenstein’-joining-criterion-collection.1443793/page-2#post-151737541

Kpop demon hunters is a story about a woman who realizes she does not need to hide who she is and the main love interest is a heterosexual male.

You tell me.

[Uncle]

I genuinely do not believe this for one second

they probably cocked an eyebrow and went "haha oh shit" in their heads and it will be entirely forgotten in less than a week

they didn't feel lesser, if anything they rubbed their hands together feeling superior because they knew this incident gives them carte blanche to pretend to have been harmed for a while

You're legitimately a fucking asshole its insane. You create your own nonsensical scenarios so you can prove how you are... just like the era assholes you love making fun off. What a garbage comment. 

Two things can be true. It's true that the guy has Tourette's and couldn't control what he said. It's also true that what he said is still fucked up, and you don't get to tell Lindo and MBJ to get over it, bro. Nuance. But then again, this is the internet, so I'm not surprised.

Nothing like white men telling us how we should feel. 

Even better when they say we are faking to feel superior… somehow. 

That’s right uncle. Put those uppity negroes in their place!

being called a mean name is not being "harmed," especially at the height of safety, prestige and success, especially when everyone fully understands the person didn't mean it and would never do anything to act on it...and it's also incredibly obvious on its face that many people relish chances like these to score pity points, era users themselves were grifting for social points in their own thread

if someone called melody shreds a trann-y online, do you genuinely consider that harm? what if he then went to leverage that into a week of "poor me" and raised $5000 because of it?

don't you think he'd start to look forward to being "harmed?"

Nah, I think it can be hurtful that even when you're at the height of your career and achieved things bigger than you could ever dream of you get a reminder that this still doesn't protect you from getting called the n-word. In that sense I feel bad for Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo. But I also imagine they're understanding enough that this wasn't intentional and controllable by the person who did it. It's simply an unfortunate situation

there's nothing magic about what they were called

if you're at the height of your career and achieved things bigger than you could ever dream of you might get a reminder that this still doesn't protect you from getting called ugly, or smelly, or oatmeal cookie face, or redneck, or gimpy, or a midget, or a greedy jew, or towelhead, or a shrill annoying transphobic woman, or anything you can imagine

most people aren't so foolish as to ever expect that achieving anything immunizes you from receiving insults, in fact if anything it invites more of them, that doesn't make it "harm"

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I'm on Nepenthe's side.

[Uncle]

You're legitimately a fucking asshole its insane. You create your own nonsensical scenarios so you can prove how you are... just like the era assholes you love making fun off. What a garbage comment.

straight up, do you genuinely think that having called me a "fucking asshole" has harmed me? sitting back like "ahh that's the stuff...I really harmed that guy just now, I mean I don't like to wield power like this so casually, I don't fire linguistic bullets needlessly, but he really deserved it, he brought that harm upon himself"

how is it "just like era" to believe the exact opposite from them that being briefly insulted is not the same as being harmed? their entire existence is wrapped up in a metagame of baiting each other into causing enough textual "harm" that the mods agree with them and hand out bans

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

what the fuck did you just say to me.  no seriously what the fuck did you just say.  i'll fucking kill you

[Propagandhim]

I've never seen star wars.  is that emperor bubblefeta cheese or some shit saying "I'll fucking kill you".  Uhh context??

[Keetongu]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dc-comics-so-white.1443352/#post-151720033

DC is run by white liberals who don't view race as a priority. The way they've handled black history month is proof. Like only THREE variants, and like two blog post so far........

Only 3 variants for Black History Month?! And in Black History Month too just to rub it in.

[Boredfrom]

I've never seen star wars.  is that emperor bubblefeta cheese or some shit saying "I'll fucking kill you".  Uhh context??

[Boredfrom]

I agree with that, lots of autistic people don't understand that you can't just paper over any statement with "ok seriously guys, from an objective aesthetic point of view" without coming across as creepy, even if they really and truly only see it in an aesthetic sense, they don't comprehend societal zero tolerance

[HaughtyFrank]

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-said-the-democratic-party-needs-to-be-more-culturally-normal.1444438/

California Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with CNN's Dana Bash to talk about the future of the Democratic Party. He says the party should be "less prone to spending disproportionate amount of time on pronouns, identity politics. More focused on tabletop issues, things that really matter — the stacking of stress in terms of the electricity bills and childcare costs and health care and obviously housing costs."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-said-the-democratic-party-needs-to-be-more-culturally-normal.1444438/#post-151740961

TRANS PEOPLE ARE NOT THE FUCKING REASON WE DONT HAVE HEALTHCARE OR LIVABLE WAGES

AMERICANS DO NOT

GIVE

A FLYING

FUCK

ABOUT PEOPLE'S FUCKING GENDER, THEY CANT AFFORD FOOD AND ARE LITERALLY DYING WITHOUT HEALTHCARE.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-said-the-democratic-party-needs-to-be-more-culturally-normal.1444438/

California Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with CNN's Dana Bash to talk about the future of the Democratic Party. He says the party should be "less prone to spending disproportionate amount of time on pronouns, identity politics. More focused on tabletop issues, things that really matter — the stacking of stress in terms of the electricity bills and childcare costs and health care and obviously housing costs."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-said-the-democratic-party-needs-to-be-more-culturally-normal.1444438/#post-151740961

TRANS PEOPLE ARE NOT THE FUCKING REASON WE DONT HAVE HEALTHCARE OR LIVABLE WAGES

AMERICANS DO NOT

GIVE

A FLYING

FUCK

ABOUT PEOPLE'S FUCKING GENDER, THEY CANT AFFORD FOOD AND ARE LITERALLY DYING WITHOUT HEALTHCARE.

Why can't we have food, healthcare, and women only spaces?

[Rendle]

Uncle is right, for instance I don't think Will Smith "chose" to be upset over Chris Rock's joke, but it definitely felt like most of the people supporting Smith were only doing it because they wanted to defend the idea that if someone says something you don't like you get to attack them. There's some people out there (and resetera is full of them) who see victimhood as a superpower they can use to win arguments.
And malfoyisking is right, the purpose of the n-word and other slurs is to belittle someone's existence as a human being. I'm sure it took some of the sting off knowing it was involuntary, but it probably still brought back painful feelings of childhood bullies and racist/homophobic assholes for a lot of people in the audience.

The only real asshole in this scenario is the BBC for leaving it in the broadcast, and for lying about "not hearing it". They fucking warned people ahead of time the guy might yell things, they either didn't raise it to the editors which means they're grossly inept or they decided to leave it in for publicity which means they're shameless. Since it's the BBC could go either way I guess.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-said-the-democratic-party-needs-to-be-more-culturally-normal.1444438/

California Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with CNN's Dana Bash to talk about the future of the Democratic Party. He says the party should be "less prone to spending disproportionate amount of time on pronouns, identity politics. More focused on tabletop issues, things that really matter — the stacking of stress in terms of the electricity bills and childcare costs and health care and obviously housing costs."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-said-the-democratic-party-needs-to-be-more-culturally-normal.1444438/#post-151740961

TRANS PEOPLE ARE NOT THE FUCKING REASON WE DONT HAVE HEALTHCARE OR LIVABLE WAGES

AMERICANS DO NOT

GIVE

A FLYING

FUCK

ABOUT PEOPLE'S FUCKING GENDER, THEY CANT AFFORD FOOD AND ARE LITERALLY DYING WITHOUT HEALTHCARE.

Cool, then we can ditch the gender stuff from any policy programs, no one cares after all

Oh what's this, you refuse to vote for Newsom because he thinks trans woman in women's sports might be unfair?

[Lonewulfeus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-alysa-liu-effect.1444417/#post-151741807

I loved her Olympics performance. Just hard to care about what she has to say about life and "struggling" when you don't get to do what she does without a lot of privilege.

Basic taste in anime too.

Is one of the requirements for resetera mods to be the most jealous petty people alive?  Really seems that way.  Oppression Olympics colors their every waking moment.  Privileged people can struggle too (hint, a large majority of the world considers whining about privilege online as a person living in the richest country in the world to be a privileged behavior).

[Uncle]

I agree with that, lots of autistic people don't understand that you can't just paper over any statement with "ok seriously guys, from an objective aesthetic point of view" without coming across as creepy, even if they really and truly only see it in an aesthetic sense, they don't comprehend societal zero tolerance

boredfrom: "I'm so desperate for a rhetorical win that I'm willing to equate actual physical molestation of children with being called a mean name"



chat, is this real?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-alysa-liu-effect.1444417/#post-151741807

I loved her Olympics performance. Just hard to care about what she has to say about life and "struggling" when you don't get to do what she does without a lot of privilege.

Basic taste in anime too.

Is one of the requirements for resetera mods to be the most jealous petty people alive?  Really seems that way.  Oppression Olympics colors their every waking moment.  Privileged people can struggle too (hint, a large majority of the world considers whining about privilege online as a person living in the richest country in the world to be a privileged behavior).

lolo

If your takeaway is that her own struggle to achieve is meaningless because so many are simply struggling to survive, that is very depressing to me; we might as well not find bright spots and joy in anything in this terrible world.

Midramble

I get the sentiment. I also tend to get pretty salty about people that have had the luxury to chase their dreams due to some family privilege. I'm trying to be a bit more chill about it but it comes up. Being lucky enough to have a lawyer father that can invest 25k a year into your professional athletic training is not something the vast majority of people will have access to. That said, that doesn't necessarily erase the struggle of becoming the best in the world and setbacks that fight against that. That and she generally seems to be a pretty good person, so it's a bit easier to overlook. I may also be a bit biased being in The Bay.

Edit: For instance Taylor Swift's career was also backed by a supporting family putting up similar amounts of money, but I'm tryin to be more chill about my salt on that front. I WAS on the same front with Rebecca Black until I learned more of the details and have basically done a 180.

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[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

I've never seen star wars.

...

How is such a thing even possible!?

Congratulations sir, you have successfully bammed my boozle.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-americans-always-say-theyre-from-their-state-or-city-instead-of-their-country.1444042/#post-151720414

If they're from the north east or west coast its to signal that they're not a racist dumbass

[D3RANG3D]

[Boredfrom]

I agree with that, lots of autistic people don't understand that you can't just paper over any statement with "ok seriously guys, from an objective aesthetic point of view" without coming across as creepy, even if they really and truly only see it in an aesthetic sense, they don't comprehend societal zero tolerance

boredfrom: "I'm so desperate for a rhetorical win that I'm willing to equate actual physical molestation of children with being called a mean name "


chat, is this real?  

My dude, this is on you.

[Boredfrom]

Uncle is right, for instance I don't think Will Smith "chose" to be upset over Chris Rock's joke, but it definitely felt like most of the people supporting Smith were only doing it because they wanted to defend the idea that if someone says something you don't like you get to attack them. There's some people out there (and resetera is full of them) who see victimhood as a superpower they can use to win arguments.
And malfoyisking is right, the purpose of the n-word and other slurs is to belittle someone's existence as a human being. I'm sure it took some of the sting off knowing it was involuntary, but it probably still brought back painful feelings of childhood bullies and racist/homophobic assholes for a lot of people in the audience.

The only real asshole in this scenario is the BBC for leaving it in the broadcast, and for lying about "not hearing it". They fucking warned people ahead of time the guy might yell things, they either didn't raise it to the editors which means they're grossly inept or they decided to leave it in for publicity which means they're shameless. Since it's the BBC could go either way I guess.

The issue with Uncle is the broad generalization and minimizing the slur as  “mean word”, which is kind of assholish for the people that genuinely get emotional hurt because of it and just fuels BCT argument of “they don’t care about our pain so let’s not empathize with the disabled person”.

[Rendle]

I've never seen star wars.

...

How is such a thing even possible!?

Congratulations sir, you have successfully bammed my boozle.

It happens. My best friend who is the biggest cinephile i've ever met had never watched Indiana Jones before. We sat down to watch it together over Skype, and 10 mins in my motherboard melted. I told him to keep watching it without me but he didn't. A few years later, never having seen it, he died from muscular dystrophy. Moral of the story is that everyome should do what I tell them to.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-said-the-democratic-party-needs-to-be-more-culturally-normal.1444438/

California Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with CNN's Dana Bash to talk about the future of the Democratic Party. He says the party should be "less prone to spending disproportionate amount of time on pronouns, identity politics. More focused on tabletop issues, things that really matter — the stacking of stress in terms of the electricity bills and childcare costs and health care and obviously housing costs."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-said-the-democratic-party-needs-to-be-more-culturally-normal.1444438/#post-151740961

TRANS PEOPLE ARE NOT THE FUCKING REASON WE DONT HAVE HEALTHCARE OR LIVABLE WAGES

AMERICANS DO NOT

GIVE

A FLYING

FUCK

ABOUT PEOPLE'S FUCKING GENDER, THEY CANT AFFORD FOOD AND ARE LITERALLY DYING WITHOUT HEALTHCARE.

We need to stop spending a disproportionate amount of time on... things Americans do not give a flying fuck about?

Okay, makes sense.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Alysa Liu is a test tube baby manufactured by her father to become an Olympic athlete and had zero say in what she could do growing up. Yes, that's so very privileged. Imagine living a life like Princess Bubblegum where their parents have either loved them unconditionally or have given up on them, the normal white family upbringing where you can do no wrong as long as you're being your true self, and compare that to a strict Chinese father who sends you crying to ice skating practice.

Yes, Princess Bubblegum. It's so very hard to sympathize with someone as "privileged" as her.

 One was a bird locked in a cage who finally is able to live on her own terms while the other is a Transbian who jerks off to Yuri porn. Who lived the harder life?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Ignore what I posted above.

Alysa Liu's father is a CPC dissenter who ran from rightful arrest to capitalist pig America.

Alysa Liu refused to represent China in the Winter Olympics, unlike great athlete Eileen Gu. 

Alysa Liu is a traitor to her heritage and helps furthers imperialism throughout the world.