Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Jansen]

The problem is they made the best game of all time that the world wasn't ready for. Much how the medical world didn't want accept that germs were real and paid the price for it, gamers weren't ready for Marathon and chose to ostracize it instead. Only many years from now will we look back on this moment in time and think "With Marathon, gaming peaked. But we, as a species, were too foolish to realize it."



I believe there was a popular tweet along the lines of "If we discard Marathon, we will get destroyed…….and we will deserve it." Or something like that.

When trying to make a new meme goes wrong

[Boredfrom]

wtf is going on with this Marathon crash out?

Sonyponies get 1 game a year so it’s a pretty big deal.

[Uncle]

george saros 

[malfoyking]

They opened a new forum specifically for CCU because the softies over there get mad and whine constantly that their favorite games aren't getting good CCU.

https://www.resetera.com/forums/sales-ccu.55/

[Boredfrom]

george saros 

George Zardoz

[simiansmarts]

wtf is going on with this Marathon crash out?

Marathon is somewhat slowly dying and the marathon enjoyers can't stand the existence of a thread that constantly reminds them of that

Anyways BDubs doing his usual caved to the complainers and shut down the CCU thread so now there is panic everywhere for some fucking reason

Hole up...

After listening to feedback, we won't do the two week limit thing, instead, as we did with the politics subforum on the Etc side, we're going to make a "Sales/CCU" subforum. All Alinea / CCU / sales / famitsu stuff will be posted in there. This will make it easier for people to ignore and allow us to subforum ban users from sales/ccu discussion entirely if they decide they want to try trolling or attacking other members. That said, we do still want new news to result in new threads.

Holy shit B-Dubs listened and came up with a decent solution for once

Coming up with an entire subforum to appease the dwindling mental health of sonyponies who can't help themselves is a kind of solution I guess.   

[Boredfrom]

Watched the full video. It was excellent and articulated a lot of my own thoughts about the subjects of human-animal discrimination comparisons. I have now subscribed to their YouTube channel. Thanks for sharing.

I wouldn't expect the majority of people here to do the same for an almost 1-hour video obviously, but some seem to not have even tried to engage with it at all and still thought they should write a comment to dismiss it, apparently...

So, since people are more interested in discussing Pitbull danger than the actual original subject of "Pitbulls are black", allow me :

Studies seems to show that, in American cities, Black people are proportionally more susceptible to committing crimes and going to prison than white.
- Racists see this, immediately stop any critical thinking and say : Black people are biologically and inherently more dangerous; they should be treated and handled with coercive laws as such.
- A consequent Left-leaning person sees this, stops to think for a moment, then say : why ? What is the cause, and what can we do to truly act on this ?

The answer lies in sociology studies that redirect toward state racism, society organization, poverty... multifactorial and complicated data. If we want to handle the subject, we have to find the deep roots.

Now return to the Pitbull case : do we choose to coerce the dog's specific breed because of their potential dangers, maybe even euthanize them for maximum safety ? Or do we choose to try to actually look at the roots that point out that biology is not the determining factor, but socialization, confirmation bias, and bad practice perpetuation are.
We can choose to view those dogs as tools and disposable properties (like, you know, slaves...). Or we respect them and try to enact true change by changing practices and mentalities regarding how we see races and breeds, look at each dog as an individual, and try to make the best decisions for both the dogs and the humans to cohabit.

This leads to a broader discussion about animal rights.

And that is, in fact, unironically true.
The real question then is what to do from this point when you take into consideration the well-being of the dogs.

 

Animal breeds are not the same as human conception of “race”. You don’t have any idea how different are dog breeds while the concept of “race” on humans (which is mostly a social invention). 

Where is Nepenthe? Last time someone pulled the “pit bulls are black” she banned them.

Yeahh.......after giving this video a full listen, this is definitely one of those threads where it should be required to watch/listen to it before commenting.

What's funny is that PhilosyNoir clarifies and distinguishes the argument he's making in the video, and preemptively calls out the people who reflexively balk at the comparison, and what has largely littered his thread? Reflexive balking at the the comparison lol

 of all people…

[Uncle]

are they trying to argue that pitbulls are only more violent due to socioeconomic factors i.e. the kind of person who would own a pitbull is more likely to be the type of person who doesn't train them properly and lets them attack people

[Boredfrom]

Listening to a Black man who isn't FD Signifier for an hour challenge level: Impossible.

Do you have any real principles?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eu-ready-to-sanction-israel-because-of-stolen-ukrainian-grain.1505491/#post-154371328

Al Pacino was taken down by tax evasion. What really matters is punishing them appropriately of everything else.

[Boredfrom]

What's funny is that PhilosyNoir clarifies and distinguishes the argument he's making in the video, and preemptively calls out the people who reflexively balk at the comparison, and what has largely littered his thread?

Maybe he shouldn’t have done that comparison? Or maybe not name his video with “Pitbulls are black people”.

Why are you guys defending this?

Pretty sure Nepenthe has banned people for this comparison.

[HaughtyFrank]

are they trying to argue that pitbulls are only more violent due to socioeconomic factors i.e. the kind of person who would own a pitbull is more likely to be the type of person who doesn't train them properly and lets them attack people

Alright let's forbid some people from owning big dogs at all. I'm sure Nepenthe will approve

[Jansen]

wtf is going on with this Marathon crash out?

Marathon is somewhat slowly dying and the marathon enjoyers can't stand the existence of a thread that constantly reminds them of that

Anyways BDubs doing his usual caved to the complainers and shut down the CCU thread so now there is panic everywhere for some fucking reason

Hole up...

After listening to feedback, we won't do the two week limit thing, instead, as we did with the politics subforum on the Etc side, we're going to make a "Sales/CCU" subforum. All Alinea / CCU / sales / famitsu stuff will be posted in there. This will make it easier for people to ignore and allow us to subforum ban users from sales/ccu discussion entirely if they decide they want to try trolling or attacking other members. That said, we do still want new news to result in new threads.

Holy shit B-Dubs listened and came up with a decent solution for once

Coming up with an entire subforum to appease the dwindling mental health of sonyponies who can't help themselves is a kind of solution I guess.   

It's a good compromise given what he has to work with and B-Dubs should win the Nobel Peace prize

[Boredfrom]

Holy shit, does at any point the dude actually justifies the genetic and biological problems with his comparison? 

Sgt White Face says he does in the first 10 minutes but isn’t true… he just smugly and condescending it minimizes the issue two opinions.  

I skipped to the part named “what the science says” but is about argumentative rhetoric.  

Is he a Philosophy major for real?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/representatives-mike-lawler-r-and-josh-gottheimer-d-introduce-resolution-to-us-house-to-condemn-hasan-piker-and-candice-ownes-for-antisemitism.1505824/page-3#post-154366384

The inability of these idiots to seperate Israel the country and Israelis the people is so fucking stupid.

[DavidCroquet]

What's funny is that PhilosyNoir clarifies and distinguishes the argument he's making in the video, and preemptively calls out the people who reflexively balk at the comparison, and what has largely littered his thread?

Maybe he shouldn’t have done that comparison? Or maybe not name his video with “Pitbulls are black people”.

Why are you guys defending this?

Pretty sure Nepenthe has banned people for this comparison.

Random breadtuber: "<group> is <animal>"

Most normal people: "wow, that's really fucked up, regardless of whatever other points you are trying to make"

Random breadtuber:

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gundam-creator-tomino-on-animage-may-issue-japan-is-becoming-authoritarian-anti-war-sentiments-havent-been-passed-down-including-many-gundam-fans.1499071/

Is also funny that L_Thammy is another person that will pretend to understand this but not really.

I was discussing a while ago that this was a major theme of the original series. Even boiling it down to "authoritarianism is bad" is a bit of an oversimplification, because it depicts the people stuck between an authoritarian power that wants to destroy them and a democratic one that is disinterested in them. It's a cynical take on politics in general where the people we sympathize with are at mercy of the political situation that surrounds them - as well as a reflection that World War 2 was a war between the established colonial powers and wannabe colonial powers that were trying to become them.

No, it's a reflection of the Cold War. Which makes sense considering when it was made. And Japan's status in the world during it. Seems pretty obvious.

Brave and bold "both sides" take about World War II. "Were the Nazis and Japanese Empire really so bad when compared to the British Empire and US occupation of Haiti/Philippines?"  
 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/representatives-mike-lawler-r-and-josh-gottheimer-d-introduce-resolution-to-us-house-to-condemn-hasan-piker-for-antisemitism.1505824/#post-154364293

Out of everything going on in this country and outside of it on a global scale, we're introducing legislation to take down a Twitch streamer.

No, it's a Congressional resolution, it's meaningless. They do this constantly all the time and have for decades and you've never cared. It's just Congress saying "here's our useless opinion on some topic" they can then go back and brag about to people who think it means something. Or in this case, it's probably just to make it awkward for Democrats to decide how to vote on it since Rethugs can pass it by themselves.

[Boredfrom]

What's funny is that PhilosyNoir clarifies and distinguishes the argument he's making in the video, and preemptively calls out the people who reflexively balk at the comparison, and what has largely littered his thread?

Maybe he shouldn’t have done that comparison? Or maybe not name his video with “Pitbulls are black people”.

Why are you guys defending this?

Pretty sure Nepenthe has banned people for this comparison.

Random breadtuber: "<group> is <animal>"

Most normal people: "wow, that's really fucked up, regardless of whatever other points you are trying to make"

Random breadtuber:

The worst thing is that I can see it being intentional just to make people pay attention to the video and making heat. Dude doesn’t sound stupid, but disingenuous.

[Potato]

Bdumbs added new sub forum for sales and ccu talk

  

They could call it something snappy like, I don't know, Install Base or something...

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/books-that-analyze-the-impact-of-modern-life-on-mental-health.1504834/#post-154372945

I'd like to add that r/askpsychology has a terrible automod... I've been trying to ask the same question there and it keeps getting removed because apparently I'm not allowed to ask for book recommendations or mention I have ASD.

Are there any other subreddits where I could ask?

https://www.reddit.com/r/askpsychology/comments/1szd5cq/how_does_modern_life_impact_our_brains_and_mental/

https://www.reddit.com/user/Airegin89/

Edit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/30PlusSkinCare/comments/1s1hgl1/what_condition_can_cause_this_extreme_aging/

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

https://ibb.co/album/hxjRW9

Frequent post in r/autism.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cbs-news-a-sinking-ship-as-pro-trump-turn-drives-ratings-to-unthinkable-lows.1505854/#post-154366147

I work for them.

Those wishing nothing but bad things for the company need to remember there are many, many people who are unhappy with the current leadership. There are grunts, like myself, who have no say in any executive decisions.

Please understand there are real people, like any other business, that would suffer if they lose their jobs due to decisions outside their control.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-you-work-for-fascists-does-that-make-you-a-fascist-ars-technica-palantir-employees-are-talking-about-company%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cdescent-into-fascism%E2%80%9D.1502014/

[Potato]

are they trying to argue that pitbulls are only more violent due to socioeconomic factors i.e. the kind of person who would own a pitbull is more likely to be the type of person who doesn't train them properly and lets them attack people

Alright let's forbid some people from owning big dogs at all. I'm sure Nepenthe will approve

If only there was some obvious external visual clue we could use to judge people without speaking to them. The colour of the hair maybe? I dunno, I need to think on it.

[Nintex]

One industry insider described the situation with brutal clarity: "It's a sinking ship. It's clear they have no idea what they are doing —

[Snoopy]

Incoming Planetsmasher post about how in 3rd grade he was almost mauled by a 6ft Pomeranian or some shit.

Planetsmasher

My friend had a rescue dog that blatantly didn't trust women. We basically came to the conclusion after knowing him for a little while that his previous owner must have been a woman who deeply mistreated him, because he would be really calm and nice around both him and me but the SECOND his girlfriend or any other woman was in the room he immediately pivoted into a completely defensive, "someone's gonna hurt me" mode. You could even see his muscles clench up the moment he could smell her. The poor thing was just deeply emotionally broken and it haunted him for the rest of his life.

It feels like all of the worst aspects of a poodle and a golden slammed together into one dog. I don't know why my family was so dedicated to getting one; we've only ever had goldens and a golden/pyrenees mix up until this point and they've all largely been pretty chill, generally low-maintenance animals. This one has two modes: asleep or "I'm gonna have/give you a panic attack" with no middle ground.

I really hope he ages out of this because if he doesn't I'm gonna lose my mind and the cats are going to hate living in this house for his entire life.

I wish my family did research on goldendoodle temperament before they decided they HAD to get one and outvoted me when I said I didn't want one. This puppy makes me want to scream.

The part that's honestly so stressful about dog ownership is that you just don't know until you know. You have no way of knowing if a dog has the capacity to go completely apeshit until it does it. Any breed can snap, there are just some breeds that are more dangerous as a baseline when they do.

We have a new goldendoodle puppy right now (3 and a half months, I think?) and he's so energetic and aggressive (and so prone to catastrophic separation anxiety meltdowns) that I am constantly terrified he's going to flip out one day and rip our cats to shreds. Thankfully the cats hate him and basically avoid him at all times because they blatantly do not trust his behavior patterns, but the entire reason we got a dog in the first place was to get a playmate for our younger cat to make him stop harassing our older cat. So now we have an asshole puppy and a kitten who thinks his 6-year-old older sister who's recovering from heart failure wants to wrestle all the time (she does not). Instead of solving the kitten's energy problem we've multiplied it.

My stress levels have a floor of 4/10 right now because I just can't feel any degree of calm with this idiot in the house.

Exactly. I remember seeing something somewhere that Golden Retrievers, of all breeds, have one of the highest per-capita bite rates (largely contributed to by their sheer popularity and the tendency of families with kids to get them), but due to the fact that their jaws aren't built the same way as a Rott or a Pit, the chances of serious injury are vastly, vastly lower. Goldens also (typically) don't have the temperament that makes them absolutely lock in when they bite.

That being said, even a golden can be dangerous. We had one when I was a college student that flat-out killed another dog. So even "nice" dogs can be dangerous.

Do you think he just stone cold makes these stories up or do you think he adapts stories he heard other people say?

They're his victim's stories. You can tell because ole Ted Bundy forgot his lore. He had daschunds not retrievers. He posted stories about them dying in mysterious circumstances.

[Alpacx]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eu-ready-to-sanction-israel-because-of-stolen-ukrainian-grain.1505491/#post-154371328

Al Pacino was taken down by tax evasion. What really matters is punishing them appropriately of everything else.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eu-ready-to-sanction-israel-because-of-stolen-ukrainian-grain.1505491/#post-154371328

Al Pacino was taken down by tax evasion. What really matters is punishing them appropriately of everything else.

Tariff the grains

But its Israel sir

Ok send me the bill

[benji]

What's funny is that PhilosyNoir clarifies and distinguishes the argument he's making in the video, and preemptively calls out the people who reflexively balk at the comparison, and what has largely littered his thread?

Maybe he shouldn’t have done that comparison? Or maybe not name his video with “Pitbulls are black people”.

Why are you guys defending this?

Pretty sure Nepenthe has banned people for this comparison.

Holy shit, does at any point the dude actually justifies the genetic and biological problems with his comparison? 

Sgt White Face says he does in the first 10 minutes but isn’t true… he just smugly and condescending it minimizes the issue two opinions.  

I skipped to the part named “what the science says” but is about argumentative rhetoric.  

Is he a Philosophy major for real?

I don't need to watch the video because this isn't anything new, and as proven by that, it bubbles up on Twitter (where no ancient topic ever seems to ever die) at least once a year from people who are capable of being concise. (And actually funny.)

It's no different from when they say it's racist to not like rap. Well, that's associated with Black culture so you must not like it because it's Black. Remember a few days ago when Nepenthe told us that people only care about women being attacked in the street versus hidden abuse in the home because it's anti-Black to get upset about the first one and that helps achieve anti-Black ends?

Of course there's people who believe this, Himu posts here for example, but because they're simple minded and out to find something to be true they insist it must be what everyone thinks so they can morally condemn them. They'd be aghast at the idea that pitbulls are often a problem breed that certain aspects of Black culture that are violent prioritize and celebrate. They'd be even more aghast when I point out that pitbulls and similar breeds are also popular with white gangs and drug dealers. They want you to accept that violent gang culture is inherent Black culture so they can attack you for looking down on what's behavioral choices by individuals. Rather than simply see this as human culture that's unfortunately overrepresented in Black culture. That's not easy to address like simply demanding nobody can dislike anything they declare to be Black.

We can also easily slip their demands on us by simply not jumping to a belief that the full power of the state needs to remedy this. Era in general, and much of this type of discourse, refuses to allow you to want anything else but violent extermination of anything you don't like. Don't like Hasan, oh, you must want him dead. Think trans people should stop trying to leverage violence to get into women's spaces, oh, you want them dead. Don't care for the high femme ideals of a video game, oh, you need to believe it's part of a global plot to subjugate women and that's why we need to outlaw social media. Think maybe people shouldn't select for a breed to be violent to others to protect them from the consequences of their violent actions, oh, so you want Black people oppressed. No, because unlike you I can condemn something, think it shouldn't be done and then not insist that others must do something about it no matter what. I am fully and totally content to allow for slow gradual progress rather than trying to force it upon everyone at all times.

They can't have discussions about this, or any other topic, because they have a single rhetorical play they believe is bulletproof to force everyone to agree with them at all times. Eliminate nuance, force everything into a binary false choice with an obvious bad choice, then condemn anyone who doesn't immediately agree to support the clear correct choice. They can't even follow through with this which is why they quickly jump to throwing epithets: racist, troll, transphobic, Zionist, Nazi, etc. Once you're tossed from the ingroup your guilt is assumed. Hence the power of then threatening anyone else with being removed from it. But don't think these standards can be used against the ingroup, see above where someone mocks the idea that the racist, transphobic, white staff are friendly to Nazis.

*beep boop* Black people, at least the non-coons, are the ingroup and therefore I must protect pitbulls from criticism. *beep boop* I am fighting against fascism. *beep boop* MY DELIVERY CHARGES FOR MY SMALL AMOUNT OF MCDONALDS ARE WHAT NOW?!?

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sometimes-i-wish-the-pokemon-anime-was-only-season.1503610/ 
 

Alas, the show was far too popular for that.

I stopped watching around when Johto started because I lost interest.

But the I digitally League episodes are really good, but there's a part of me that wishes we got the ending where presumably after Ash defeats the Elite Four, he then battles Gary for the right to be best trainer in the world like in the games. (I know Takeshi Shudo had other… different ideas for the ending but that's another story)

Popularity can be a double-edged sword, I suppose

 


37 year old man laments the Pokemon anime going on passed when he stopped watching as a kid

[benji]

They can't have discussions about this, or any other topic, because they have a single rhetorical play they believe is bulletproof to force everyone to agree with them at all times. Eliminate nuance, force everything into a binary false choice with an obvious bad choice, then condemn anyone who doesn't immediately agree to support the clear correct choice. 

And like you don't do that when it comes to the topic of using violence to get what I want?  

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[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marathons-daily-ccu-peak-is-now-under-16k-on-steam-out-of-the-top-100-most-played-on-xbox-in-all-regions-barely-any-better-on-ps-what-went-wrong.1505815/page-2#post-154364560



https://www.resetera.com/threads/marathons-daily-ccu-peak-is-now-under-16k-on-steam-out-of-the-top-100-most-played-on-xbox-in-all-regions-barely-any-better-on-ps-what-went-wrong.1505815/#post-154364233



https://www.resetera.com/threads/marathons-daily-ccu-peak-is-now-under-16k-on-steam-out-of-the-top-100-most-played-on-xbox-in-all-regions-barely-any-better-on-ps-what-went-wrong.1505815/#post-154364350