Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Potato]

 Despite the hilarious "ageism" accusations being thrown around by a few in the thread, this subject undeniably has a generational divide. While this obviously isn't absolute, Millennials and younger are much more easily able to see GenAI as a gimmicky grift because we've spent literally our entire lives dealing with the deregulated market , constantly having to be vigilant of grift tech, but Gen X and older still have a sort of fundamentally optimistic view that makes it harder for them to recognize grift tech. A lot of them rode the initial wave of computerization in the 80's and early 90's to success and still believe it's possible to see that sort of "all ships rising" style of new technology come again, not realizing that the world that made that possible is dead and gone.

Ah yes, the good old days when the government stepped in and prevented millionaires and billionaires from investing in things the government itself was massively investing in because the tech obviously couldn't lead anywhere. (Hey, no jokes about wind and solar power! That's totally different because I say so!)

I can never get over how they talk about how things have changed while having zero idea what the past was like. More gaming and computer companies have gone under or been bought out than stayed in business with zero layoffs for decades. But you'd think the latter was the norm for anybody setting out their shingle, it just turned into a multibillion dollar publisher, in all of history until now. A worldview which they base on... well, no examples. Just their own vibes about how they remember things when they were children I guess.

This is why life is so hard for us these days. You used to go "hey, I have a billion dollars to invest, what should I invest in?" And the helpful government regulator came along and told you which companies were perfectly safe producing actual products that will be successful for decades to come. And so, I shoved all my money into AOLTimeWarner and MCIWorldCom without having to worry and look out for "grift tech" which apparently any idiot ignorant of history on a "video game" forum can identify but nobody else can. No, they're not shorting those companies, they don't have the money to do that because of this fucking deregulation!

Rather than being a generational divide based on grift spotting, I'd say it's more likely that Gen X can see the productivity benefits for actual work and Millennials and other retards can only see it taking away their dreams of making a living doing inane shit like designing fursonas, video game textures and background graphics and other trivial shit like that.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/an-indian-high-court-has-ruled-that-the-medieval-kamal-maula-mosque-is-a-temple-originally-dedicated-to-a-hindu-goddess.1524778/

This shits just gonna keep on happening.

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So it is or isn’t? 

Is not like Islam was above doing this. Catholics did it too.

It's called the Hagia Sophia you fucking subhumans and it's an orthodox church, not a fucking mosque or a museum.

[Potato]

What Big Tech company could you most easily boycott?

For me personally, it would be Microsoft.

Once I clock out for the day, I never use MS products at home (forced to at work). I haven't owned an Xbox since 360, and I've turned my gaming pc on probably a dozen times total since Israel started doing genocide (partly funded by Microsoft). I've always found their products shitty even growing up.

Amazon would be my #2 I only place about 5 orders a year.

  

As long as I’m not being paid, I’ll boycott it. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-big-tech-company-could-you-most-easily-boycott.1524493/

What do you mean most of the web runs on Microsoft and Amazon infrastructure? 

That's unpossible...

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/michelle-obama-said-people-who-voted-for-president-barack-obama-twice-jumped-over-to-trump-because-the-system-simply-wasnt-working-for-them-anymore.1524946/

Remember what they said about listening to black voices?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Subnautica 2 is a pacifist ideology woven into a game.

Players have noticed you cannot defend yourself against attacking fish. Not even in self defense. Only passive means are available.

This was by design. You can't kill anything because the devs feel it would support gun violence and aspects of colonialism:

"Subnautica is one vote towards a world with less guns. A reminder that there is another way forward."

"We want people to feel like they're learning to adapt to the world, rather than being a conqueror or dominator."

"We aren't a killing game. Go play Sons of the Forest or something if you want to kill."

The anti-violence stance got stronger from Subnautica 1 -> 2, which now has a complete "no kill" policy even when the fish can still kill *you*.

I investigated the sources for the unsourced quotes:

Flayra
[developer]
Apr 2, 2016 @ 5:41pm
I haven't read all the comments here, but I'll chime in here, as I'm the main reason we don't have violent/weapons in the game.

Subnautica was being birthed right around the time of the Sandy Hook shooting. This was a particularly nasty shooting, although many people don't realize America has school shootings every day. Every. Single. Day.

(5/8/16 UPDATE: I meant to say "mass" shootings, not "school" shootings: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting and http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shootings/2015)

Yet, for reasons I cannot understand, our people and the corporations that influence our country want to continue making it easy for people to get, carry and use pistols, semi-automatic and fully-automatic weapons.

I've never believed that video game violence creates more real-world violence. But I couldn't just sit by and "add more guns" to the world either.

So Subnautica is one vote towards a world with less guns. A reminder that there is another way forward. One where we use non-violent and more creative solutions to solve our problems. One where we are not at the top of the food chain.

One journalist, meanwhile, asked about the lack of weaponry in Subnautica 2, and pointed to the lack of defensive options in past Subnautica games as a source of frustration. To this, Gallegos responded:

"The studio started with the Natural Selections series, but when the Sandy Hook shooting happened in the United States, one of the studio founders Charlie Cleveland wanted to create a game that didn't push violence [...] I would still say the studio isn't like anti-violence in any of our games, but it is a core tenet of the Subnautica franchise

"The one thing we want to push is we want people to feel they're learning to adapt to the world, rather than being a conqueror or dominator, but I do know the theme of what we're doing where you started out on a colony ship, it would make sense that there'd be a means of self defence. We plan on tackling that in the story over time, but the player is not one of those people using weapons."

According to Gallegos, the team is focusing on making the player think about how to deter creatures and avoid combative situations, rather than pushing them to kill creatures.

"One of the things that always bothered me is that Subnautica 1 players would enter an area and try to figure out 'how am I going to kill this Leviathan so I don't have to deal with it anymore', which I think is unfortunate," Gallegos said. "It removes the tension of the region. But of course players do, as it's the optimal way of dealing with the creatures."
...
"I think it's a point of resistance that we'll get repeatedly while making the game, though we feel strongly about it," Galligos responded. "For us, the main thing is we want to listen to feedback from players who feel they can't defend themselves in an area or something like that, then we want to ideate on the means in which they can do that. But I think it's an important and interesting constraint to challenge players on how they can avoid things."

Galligos went on to speak about the earliest feedback rounds for the game, to find out what players would want from the series. From this, he revealed, the team received surprising feedback from certain players.

"There was one country that I won't name, and they overwhelmingly wanted to manufacture weapons. And it's like, man, I feel like people got a totally different vibe out of the original Subnautica than a weapon manufacturing video game."

In response to a player on Discord lamenting the fact they can't kill anything in Subnautica 2, level designer Artyom O'Rielly was pretty blunt: "We aren't a killing game. Go play Sons of the Forest or something if you want to kill."

Maybe let's ignore Grummz stupidity and focus on how this now gone developer was literally a Nazi posting in Nazi forums where Nazis are radicalized?

maybe grummz should make his own game

oh he did and it's completely shit

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/come-on-ebola-do-yo-thang.1523290/

 User Banned (Permanently): Inappropriate Commentary; Cheering on the Death of Millions

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/17/africa/ebola-outbreak-congo-uganda-explainer-intl

The king has returned, time for him to reclaim his crown. Imma watch Outbreak again with extra large popcorn this time. Remember that scene when those hillbillies tried to drive out of town in their pickup truck but get shot 800 times by that attack helicopter? Lmao good shit

Come on baby, get that shit percolating in Mar-a-lago

About time this sack'o'crap got a perma. 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

holy shit TableManners got perma'd?

DESERVED 

[Uncle]

Rather than being a generational divide based on grift spotting, I'd say it's more likely that Gen X can see the productivity benefits for actual work and Millennials and other retards can only see it taking away their dreams of making a living doing inane shit like designing fursonas, video game textures and background graphics and other trivial shit like that.

more than that, gen X is like "cool, I can do all of those things, designing fursonas, making game textures and such 20x as fast with AI and earn 20x the money" while millennials sit and pout, afraid of people who do that

[Potato]

millennials sit and pout, afraid

Nailed it.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-finally-experienced-that-nasty-local-game-store-stank-ive-heard-so-much-about.1523809/page-2#post-155131780

The nerds in my neck of the woods must be hygenic. I've played in plenty of LGS in my metro area and haven't come across any that reek.

So hes nose blind.

No doubt in my mind that "Princess Bubblegum" is a stinker. 

[Boredfrom]

millennials sit and pout, afraid

Nailed it.

You two sound like ERA.

[benji]

The self-esteem/narcissist generation is both ignorant and uninterested in what came before them and are quick to assume literally anything is both easy and within their grasp. Look at how easily they dismiss that anyone else is actually working hard, how easily they decide what does and does not count as "labor" to be rewarded, how they ascribe their lack of comparative achievement to others by blaming it always on outside factors as if nobody else also suffers those, how quickly they flit from next big thing they'll be doing, I'm a blogger, a podcaster, a streamer, etc., how short their patience is with all things and how this leads them to rush to praise or condemn, on and on with an endless hell of their own making out of belief of a certain necessary order that would properly orbit around themselves.

They earnestly believe their parents did basically nothing at all and were handed houses and wealth. That the wealth of America, of the West, has literally nothing to do with what it's done, it just appeared one day and everyone fought to grab as much as they could. They "know" how everything operates and it's all a scam, a simple scam, that eludes them from being able to run. Ah, it must be their morals holding them back. As they post daily "fuck this guy" "fuck that guy" "hope he's killed" "theft isn't a crime" "this is literally genociding me" in an endless stream of moral condemnation of others for daring not to be held back by their perfect altruistic morals that say I shouldn't have to do anything and I should receive everything.

"I have nothing" they cry as they literally have so much it bores them to where they ignore it. "Nobody ever has had it as hard as I do" as they have more excess income and leisure than anyone in history even as they limit themselves to fields with no entry costs. "Other people deserve less" they cluck as they fantasize about someone, somewhere, doing violence to those to take their stuff and destroy it so they can't have more. "I'm saving the planet" as they demand others murder billions and force humanity into the slow death of poverty. "Good works? I shouldn't have to emotionally labor, my salvation should be assumed by the nature of my existence."

It's not really generational as much as it is circumstantial. The greatest sudden wealth creation in human history came as these people came of age. Their scope of interest in the human condition extends to as far as they can fathom something orbits around themselves. They, we, really want for nothing in a comparative sense. Oh, sure, we have events in our personal history but those are ultimately detached entirely from the "system" which is why we have to insist the system is all that is at the same time that our every decision is made on the assumption that it will always be there and the same. It's the same need for meaning as every generation but because we know better (for we are us) nothing will ever fit because we burden ourselves with the belief that everything is within our control at the same time we outsource our agency and responsibility to anyone but ourselves. And all during the greatest access to spreading one's thoughts than ever came before.

But the narcissist never sees the trap, you can always force the facts to fit the theory especially when you dismiss anything that contradicts it. And so, there's only:

[benji]

The self-esteem/narcissist generation is both ignorant and uninterested in what came before them and are quick to assume literally anything is both easy and within their grasp. Look at how easily they dismiss that anyone else is actually working hard, how easily they decide what does and does not count as "labor" to be rewarded, how they ascribe their lack of comparative achievement to others by blaming it always on outside factors as if nobody else also suffers those, how quickly they flit from next big thing they'll be doing, I'm a blogger, a podcaster, a streamer, etc., how short their patience is with and how this leads them to rush to praise or condemn, on and on with an endless hell of their own making out of belief of a certain necessary order.

They earnestly believe their parents did basically nothing at all and were handed houses and wealth. That the wealth of America, of the West, has literally nothing to do with what it's done, it just appeared one day and everyone fought to grab as much as they could. They "know" how everything operates and it's all a scam, a simple scam, that eludes them from being able to run. Ah, it must be their morals holding them back. As they post daily "fuck this guy" "fuck that guy" "hope he's killed" "theft isn't a crime" "this is literally genociding me" in an endless stream of moral condemnation of others for daring not to be held back by their perfect altruistic morals that say I shouldn't have to do anything and I should receive everything.

"I have nothing" they cry as they literally have so much it bores them to where they ignore it. "Nobody ever has had it as hard as I do" as they have more excess income and leisure than anyone in history even as they limit themselves to fields with no entry costs. "Other people deserve less" they cluck as they fantasize about someone, somewhere, doing violence to those to take their stuff and destroy it so they can't have more. "I'm saving the planet" as they demand others murder billions and force humanity into the slow death of poverty. "Good works? I shouldn't have to emotionally labor, my salvation should be assumed by the nature of my existence."

It's not really generational as much as it is circumstantial. The greatest sudden wealth creation in human history came as these people came of age. Their scope of interest in the human condition extends to as far as they can fathom something orbits around themselves. They, we, really want for nothing in a comparative sense. Oh, sure, we have events in our personal history but those are ultimately detached entirely from the "system" which is why we have to insist the system is all that is at the same time that our every decision is made on the assumption that it will always be there and the same. It's the same need for meaning as every generation but because we know better (for we are us) nothing will ever fit because we burden ourselves with the belief that everything is within our control at the same time we outsource our agency and responsibility to anyone but ourselves.

But the narcissist never sees the trap, you can always force the facts to fit the theory especially when you dismiss anything that contradicts it. And so, there's only:

Nope. It's not valid. Shut up.

[Besticus Maximus]

That the wealth of America, of the West, has literally nothing to do with what it's done, it just appeared one day and everyone fought to grab as much as they could.

They absolutely did, I recommend you watch the documentary deadwood, america was full of dirty men with stupid names and ugly wives scratching pitchforks across barren soil while everyone died of disease until a bunch of autistic men learned how to drill for minerals

[Uncle]

I hate how much they rush to condemn any inkling of a suggestion that maybe some amount of work results in personal profit/edification as "bootstraps mentality"

it's like they were once propagandized that something must be naughty, i.e. "republicans are obsessed with bootstraps," and allowed that to become a significant part of their personality

you CAN pull yourself up by your own bootstraps; you shouldn't necessarily have to, in a society that believes in making sure everyone is taken care of at a baseline, but there's value in working to achieve something for yourself

[Taco Bell Tower]

The self-esteem/narcissist generation is both ignorant and uninterested in what came before them and are quick to assume literally anything is both easy and within their grasp. Look at how easily they dismiss that anyone else is actually working hard, how easily they decide what does and does not count as "labor" to be rewarded, how they ascribe their lack of comparative achievement to others by blaming it always on outside factors as if nobody else also suffers those, how quickly they flit from next big thing they'll be doing, I'm a blogger, a podcaster, a streamer, etc., how short their patience is with all things and how this leads them to rush to praise or condemn, on and on with an endless hell of their own making out of belief of a certain necessary order that would properly orbit around themselves.

They earnestly believe their parents did basically nothing at all and were handed houses and wealth. That the wealth of America, of the West, has literally nothing to do with what it's done, it just appeared one day and everyone fought to grab as much as they could. They "know" how everything operates and it's all a scam, a simple scam, that eludes them from being able to run. Ah, it must be their morals holding them back. As they post daily "fuck this guy" "fuck that guy" "hope he's killed" "theft isn't a crime" "this is literally genociding me" in an endless stream of moral condemnation of others for daring not to be held back by their perfect altruistic morals that say I shouldn't have to do anything and I should receive everything.

"I have nothing" they cry as they literally have so much it bores them to where they ignore it. "Nobody ever has had it as hard as I do" as they have more excess income and leisure than anyone in history even as they limit themselves to fields with no entry costs. "Other people deserve less" they cluck as they fantasize about someone, somewhere, doing violence to those to take their stuff and destroy it so they can't have more. "I'm saving the planet" as they demand others murder billions and force humanity into the slow death of poverty. "Good works? I shouldn't have to emotionally labor, my salvation should be assumed by the nature of my existence."

It's not really generational as much as it is circumstantial. The greatest sudden wealth creation in human history came as these people came of age. Their scope of interest in the human condition extends to as far as they can fathom something orbits around themselves. They, we, really want for nothing in a comparative sense. Oh, sure, we have events in our personal history but those are ultimately detached entirely from the "system" which is why we have to insist the system is all that is at the same time that our every decision is made on the assumption that it will always be there and the same. It's the same need for meaning as every generation but because we know better (for we are us) nothing will ever fit because we burden ourselves with the belief that everything is within our control at the same time we outsource our agency and responsibility to anyone but ourselves. And all during the greatest access to spreading one's thoughts than ever came before.

But the narcissist never sees the trap, you can always force the facts to fit the theory especially when you dismiss anything that contradicts it. And so, there's only:

Ok but why doesn't thebire have an app?

[benji]

That the wealth of America, of the West, has literally nothing to do with what it's done, it just appeared one day and everyone fought to grab as much as they could.

They absolutely did, I recommend you watch the documentary deadwood, america was full of dirty men with stupid names and ugly wives scratching pitchforks across barren soil while everyone died of disease until a bunch of autistic men learned how to drill for minerals

Be in my joint in two hours, we're forming a fuckin' government.

[yetanotheraccountholyf]

Star Wars hall monitor on the case! 
 

He also tweeted this as a top level tweet like Neoxon does:


Good timing on this tweet:


I noticed that Jeff has officially dumped Bluesky (and Twitch):


On his Bluesky you can still see his original links:


Bluesky just wasn't as engaging as Nazi CSAM Site:


I'm starting to think he's not going to stream:


Threads is popping however:

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Nope. It's not valid. Shut up.

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[Potato]

millennials sit and pout, afraid

Nailed it.

You two sound like ERA.

Dude. If we took a vote on who is the most Era-like member here, you would win in a landslide.

[Potato]

Millennials are retarded morons.

Agreed

[Potato]

That the wealth of America, of the West, has literally nothing to do with what it's done, it just appeared one day and everyone fought to grab as much as they could.

They absolutely did, I recommend you watch the documentary deadwood, america was full of dirty men with stupid names and ugly wives scratching pitchforks across barren soil while everyone died of disease until a bunch of autistic men learned how to drill for minerals

Don't lie. They stole it from the natives and the global south, who were just sitting there without a worry in the world before the white man came along and set them against each other and tore down Wakanda.

[Besticus Maximus]

That the wealth of America, of the West, has literally nothing to do with what it's done, it just appeared one day and everyone fought to grab as much as they could.

They absolutely did, I recommend you watch the documentary deadwood, america was full of dirty men with stupid names and ugly wives scratching pitchforks across barren soil while everyone died of disease until a bunch of autistic men learned how to drill for minerals

Don't lie. They stole it from the natives and the global south, who were just sitting there without a worry in the world before the white man came along and set them against each other and tore down Wakanda.

You’re thinking of Africa, America is the one where they wanted to marry multiple cousins and print their own bibles without paying for it

[Potato]

Either way, I'm sure it's the fault of the English.

[Snoopy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/michelle-obama-said-people-who-voted-for-president-barack-obama-twice-jumped-over-to-trump-because-the-system-simply-wasnt-working-for-them-anymore.1524946/

Remember what they said about listening to black voices?

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/warhorse-studio-is-working-on-middle-earth-open-world-rpg-and-new-kingdom-come-adventure.1525105/

Goes exactly how you think it would… i swear the users there just wait to be the first to make the “but, but, but… Nazis/problematic” posts

[kaleidoscopium]

Zeo was always insufferable, but we could likely pinpoint when he started watching Hassan based on when he adopted some Hassan mannerisms in his postings the past few years. Been a rather quick change too

[Boredfrom]

Nice to AI post:

Why are people incapable of admitting that for a few seconds some of this A.I. stuff looks cool. That's why it dupes so many people. The problem isn't that it necessarily looks bad it's that those few seconds are all that exists and it couldn't re-create that same footage from a different angle yet.

It doesn't matter if it looks good (it doesn't), even if it looked perfect (and it never will) it's still a reprehensible technology. It shouldn't be given the time of day, it shouldn't be legitimised, it shouldn't be praised. Don't give that shit an inch.

 

Why this insecure? YOU ALREADY WON THE PR WAR! 

This is not giving an inch, is not being a fanatical asshole towards an old creative for daring to use the “evil” technology that is “never going to get good enough anyway”  

You guys seem to love to be assholes and bullies rather than genuine concern about GenAI. The fact is that the worst scumbags of the forum are the ones going for the pitchforks doesn’t escape my notice.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sakaguchi-to-criticism-for-his-ff6-ai-remake-praise-“that’s-quite-the-reaction-lol-i-just-felt-potential-there”-posts-ai-lost-odyssey-experiments.1524034/page-5#post-155187124

[Besticus Maximus]

The ai stuff is just another case of the fat thumb men women trying to force people to do their bidding

[PogiJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-mandalorian-grogu-review-thread.1524199/post-155187013

But hey, glad you liked some cheap as shit nostalgia ploy, you must have loved the rubbish sequel trilogy.

How do you people not even feel a little embarrassed acting like this?

Holy mother of 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I agree with Jeff, Pogi.

They should want to spend 600 dollars on a lifelike Grogu animatronic and soy out over the newest Star Wars Film: The Mandalorian and Grogu!



https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/star-wars-ultimate-grogu/G44835S00