Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stjv-quantic-dream-115-planned-layoffs-irregular-redundancy-plan-generative-ai-in-ambush.1552933/

Oh no!

...well, anyways

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/starting-to-resent-all-platform-holders-to-varying-degrees-probably-time-to-take-a-break-from-console-gaming.1552810/

Obviously things are extremely grim with Xbox game studios right now. For the longest time they were my favourite 1st party publisher this gen, publishing interesting creative titles like Psychonauts 2, Pentiment, Grounded, Hifi-Rush etc, closing Tango was the first punch in the face and since then things seem to get more grim year by year. To me what made my love my Xbox was much more the likes of Double Fine and Obsidian and stuff like high quality RTS and flight sims on consoles than the big mainstread Halo's and CODS and Elder Scrolls'. Kinda done now.. If they close Double Fine I doubt I'll have any interest in Helix..

Sony kinda has abandonded publishing things that appeal to me. I still love Housemarque dearly and Saros is great, but seems like even they're just iterrating on that Returnal formula now upping the production values a bit each time. What happend to smaller infititely replayable arcade games like Resogun and Nex Machina that they were the best in the industry at.. Astro Bot is also good stuff but rest of their 1st party stuff just doesnt appeal. Obviously Playstation still gets plenty of great games from 3rd parties etc..

Nintendo is still capable of great quality. Yoshi and the Mysterious Book is such a great underrated game and one of the best this year, Banananza was also wonderful.. but I dunno. we're a year into Switch 2 and the exclusive game lineup is really lacking compare to the original Switch at the same point. The summer direct was just bafflingly dull filled with ports from other consoles and more switch 2 updgrades of switch games and the big summer release being an n64 remake and the big release of the year being another N64 remake. Enough rehahashing. If Switch has released with a Zelda remake instead of a fresh take on the franchise in Breath of the Wild it wouldn't have been anywhere near as good of a console.

Mostly been having fun playing old games from GoG on my PC anyway so maybe its best to give consoles a break for now. Not gonna rush out and sell my boxes but my interest has greatly dropped with the direction the industry is heading.

These guys can't just lose interest in something. They have to catastrophise everything and take it as a personal "fuck you" that something they don't like any more is no longer made for them.

[BananaBlast]

This your guy Zeo?  

Not gonna lie, I chuckled at the electricity sound effect 

[killamajig]

[cRumB]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-leak-revealed-nintendo-of-america-has-been-incorporating-microsofts-copilot-ai-tool-into-its-work-in-an-unconfirmed-capacity.1552936/
"Well everyone uses it anyways"

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-leak-revealed-nintendo-of-america-has-been-incorporating-microsofts-copilot-ai-tool-into-its-work-in-an-unconfirmed-capacity.1552936/
"Well everyone uses it anyways"

 
 
Just wait for the nuke to drop during Nintendo's next investor's meeting where they say they're using genAI in game development like every other major game publisher

[Let's Cyber]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-leak-revealed-nintendo-of-america-has-been-incorporating-microsofts-copilot-ai-tool-into-its-work-in-an-unconfirmed-capacity.1552936/
"Well everyone uses it anyways"

Everyone has copilot dipshit, it came free with your fucking M365 Enterprise account

Way to enable a genocide, Zionist chud

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-if-any-uses-of-generative-ai-in-gaming-are-you-ok-with.1552981/

The forum as a whole tends to be very anti-AI use in game companies, with a large (or at the very least vocal) group promising not to buy a game if generative AI is used in its development at all.



So I'm curious, where exactly is the line in the sand for you personally? Which of these options would you be ok with a developer using and still buy a game?

Totally not made to stoke fires or anything

[Vertigo]

I'm loving the excuses for Nintendo and as usual Era picking and choosing who and what to get outraged about. 

I bet that thread will sink from the front page shortly.

[benji]

It's completely different. Nintendo isn't using it to deliberately destroy art in the name of capitalism like everyone else, they're receiving it for free and using it simply to reduce costs and increase their ability to supply the world with art. It's like if Blizzard needed to use it to create a proper amount of Lucio skins and voice lines. The basic human decency and organizing potential outweighs the moral cost of just doing what's needed to survive in this endless hellworld.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-leak-revealed-nintendo-of-america-has-been-incorporating-microsofts-copilot-ai-tool-into-its-work-in-an-unconfirmed-capacity.1552936/
"Well everyone uses it anyways"

They're so focused on AI they haven't seen the stuff where Nintendo employees complain about DEI yet

The OP even uses a screenshot from exactly this twitter account so he should be aware of it

[Snoopy]

No. You guys don't understand. Microsoft is forcing poor Nintendo to use AI

[benji]

The OP even uses a screenshot from exactly this twitter account so he should be aware of it

Thankfully the Twitter ban on the forum protects the users from being able to click through to the Nazi website and see this.

No. You guys don't understand. Microsoft is forcing poor Nintendo to use AI

Good point. They're probably butthurt that Nintendo refused to send any money to the IDF. Zionists are obsessed like that. 

[benji]

Like it's fucking wild to me that people continue to go to bat for a company who's CEO literally told people that he just wants to take ideas and repackage them to try and make a buck.

Who's previous game (Craftopia, an early access game that has all but been abandoned at this point) also did the same song and dance when it lifted a bunch of BOTW models and pretended it was just a coincidence/they bought them from an asset store and had no idea.

They literally made a game revolving around generating AI art.

Like it's possible to think that patenting gameplay mechanics is stupid, and ALSO this company is not the champion of the people and it's fucking wild for people to cheerleader them here because they just hate Nintendo that much.

Which is hilarious, since the Pocketpair CEO has outright stated that he doesn't care about the artistic merits of games and literally only cares about fame and money lmao

Sure, let's reward the company stealing designs and assets, and which explicitly only wants to generate as much money as possible, to stick it to big bad Nintendo.

Art you don't like is still art.

The incredibly talented team of artists at Pocket Pair, be they concept artists, modellers, riggers, texture artists, or any other part of the creative pipeline did a fantastic job.

Plagiarism is the word you are looking for. They blatantly plagiarized. If you cared at all about artists you would not defent theft and plagiarism. But hey, as long as it's against Nintendo everything's fair game, right?

The idea that ppl hate nintendo so much that they want to go defend pocketpair of all companies, then judge other studios for killing concept artists jobs and work to create unique visions for games (the pocketpair ceo words have been pretty clear in the past about how he feel about creating unique stuff), always feel really weird to read.

I mean... the Pocketpair CEO is the worst and Palworld was mainly created with genAI.

It was not Nintendo against little Indie developer but Company against thieves.

First, the article is framed badly and Nintendo got what they wanted.
Second whatever else Nintendo is doing framing the Palworld guys as the good guys is quite a take with this game and their blatant ripoff of models and AI use.
What a thread, full of console wars rage bait driveby posts. Should be closed.

Nintendo deserves an L on this one. I can't see how anyone can side with their bs sometimes.

I think anyone that dislikes plagiarism has a good reason

I guess we know that Era hates Pokemon more than they hate plagiarism now.

Unsurprising, America has always been a land where grifters peddling cheap slop will have all barriers removed for them.

I guess we know that Era hates Pokemon more than they hate plagiarism now.

And Nintendo. You see so many drive-bys of people who clearly didn't read the article nor the thread. They are frothing at the mouth to throw shade at Nintendo, while actively championing one of the most scummy studios out there. The Pocketpair CEO has stated plainly that he doesn't care about art or creating something unique, he literally only cares about fame and money.

uh taking other people's ideas and iterating on them is how we've always advanced as a species. nothing is more human

Plagiarism ≠ Iteration

[TylenolJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-several-xbox-studios-including-compulsion-ninja-theory-and-double-fine-are-negotiating-with-xbox-as-they-try-to-avoid-closure.1551835/page-10#post-156525010

my overly emotional take is that everyone who cheered on that acquisition would at least get a tag in their names for embarrassing they were

You cool with giving some of the mods tags too?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-several-xbox-studios-including-compulsion-ninja-theory-and-double-fine-are-negotiating-with-xbox-as-they-try-to-avoid-closure.1551835/page-16#post-156529504

User Banned (1 Day): Metacommentary



Just give em a perma ban for attacking staff.

[TylenolJones]

User Banned (1 Day): Inflammatory Accusation

I am legit shocked Midbracer and THQ Midic published a game people wanted to play and it's reviewing well. And it's selling well. Might be a first

Did they promote the game hard on 8chan or something?

can't even make jokes on resetera anymore.

Can they ban hecht next?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-can-thq-nordic-be-held-accountable-for-the-8chan-ama-read-op.103043/

[benji]

I guess one benefit of Nintendo using AI is that it won't tweet anti-Black screenshots against the Civil Rights Movement or be on holiday break during a crisis.

[TylenolJones]

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there was a thread with a video of an Isreali soldier shooting and killinga 7 month old child. I didnt watch video so no specifics but the title was enough for me

They nuked the thread out of existence... Not only the thread doesn't exist anymore but all my posting history for that thread disappeared from my profile.... Keep carrying water for the genociders Era mod/owner.

Fuck this forum.

Setting the record straight, the thread in question was basically nothing more than a graphic video of a child being murdered. We do not and have never hosted such content, as it can get us in legal trouble. Due to that, we removed the thread.

Saying that makes us complicit in genocide is extraordinarily disingenuous, to say the least.

User banned (Permanent): Severely inflammatory commentary and whataboutism, account still in junior phase
Most of this forum, including most staff, has never cared and a lot of the actions like little boxes at the bottom of a thread are nothing but performative.

You can literally go into Xbox threads and see some mods all cheery about their Xbox purchases.

Can't make a Cyberpunk thread (which I completely understand why) but please make 35 Xbox threads on the front page with pages of people screaming through their noses "Xbox is cooking, best in class baby!!!! Woohoo!!!" (an actual post I just saw)

The fact there's an Xbox OT still allowed on here with people cheering along like it's a sports team should really tell you everything about the stance of this place.

I think a couple of mods do genuinely care but they're not really in a position to do much. If you look, it's obvious most don't care though.

As long as Microsoft is allowed to be cheered on, have hubs created for posters to cheer along and many of the staff cheers along with them, this is a genocide supporting forum. That stance has been made very clear now.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-bds-movement-calls-for-a-boycott-of-xbox-and-microsoft-gaming-products-over-its-parent-companys-complicity-in-the-genocide-in-gaza.1155057/page-35#post-156274489

[benji]

Setting the record straight, the thread in question was basically nothing more than a graphic video of a child being murdered. We do not and have never hosted such content, as it can get us in legal trouble.

[cRumB]

I think mods are gonna make up some excuse to kill that BDS thread soon.

[TylenolJones]

I think mods are gonna make up some excuse to kill that BDS thread soon.

They should close it cause it's not needed anymore. Their boycott succeeded and Xbox is dead!!!

[benji]

My ideal scenario would be to see Xbox divested from Microsoft and then go third party. They're already a massive publisher, and not having Microsoft's genocide-backing stuff weighing them down would be amazing.

But really, in the world right now, it's whatever keeps the most people employed.

   

[Shecky Fragbaum]

TBH he could've just shortened that to "fuck Microsoft" (since that's peak activism) and lived to rail against injustice another day. Now? Cast out into the wrong side of history; left to toil amongst the chuds, incels and Jews forever.

[benji]

TBH he could've just shortened that to "fuck Microsoft" (since that's peak activism) 

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[Jansen]

Yeah, tbh, one of the first replies to this conversation being about how we need to punish people who liked a bad post is kinda symbolic of how the bad the place this community is at... Is at

Why is saying that bad?  So if someone makes a horribly bigoted post, and it gets tons of likes...what do you propose?  Because then all of sudden this has became very much not the relatively safe place it is supposed to be for marginalized people, if all of those people that showed their approval of bigotry just keep posting on the forum like normal.

Given how people in this thread keep conflating "stances that only go 90% as far as I personally want" with bigotry, no I'm not comfortable with that.



You talk about bigotry and safe spaces, but there are absolutely people on era who can't handle a simple "hey guys watch the antisemitism" without losing their shit

Which one of y'all is spoit.

[Nintex]

The French gaming industry is dead and dying because their games suck and they can't sell enough of them.

Overall there is just a finite number of gamers. When Japan does well that means some other region does less well and the obvious one to lose out in this scenario is France and Europe in general, which is overall losing ground in tech and games. 

Going on strike will not help because the main problem is the high labor costs. They'd rather have the employees leave so they save money.

[simiansmarts]

Yeah, tbh, one of the first replies to this conversation being about how we need to punish people who liked a bad post is kinda symbolic of how the bad the place this community is at... Is at

Why is saying that bad?  So if someone makes a horribly bigoted post, and it gets tons of likes...what do you propose?  Because then all of sudden this has became very much not the relatively safe place it is supposed to be for marginalized people, if all of those people that showed their approval of bigotry just keep posting on the forum like normal.

Given how people in this thread keep conflating "stances that only go 90% as far as I personally want" with bigotry, no I'm not comfortable with that.



You talk about bigotry and safe spaces, but there are absolutely people on era who can't handle a simple "hey guys watch the antisemitism" without losing their shit

Which one of y'all is spoit.

get octo'd

[HaughtyFrank]

TBH he could've just shortened that to "fuck Microsoft" (since that's peak activism) 

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[Potato]

I'm loving the excuses for Nintendo and as usual Era picking and choosing who and what to get outraged about. 

I bet that thread will sink from the front page shortly.

The cruelty hypocrisy is the point.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Isn't every crime a hate crime when you hate crime?

Whenever anyone does something I hate, that's a crime.