Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[benji]

Welp, time to mass murder corporate executives because the prices on my consumer electronics are matching inflation. Just remember you made me do this with your fetish for death and destruction.

[Let's Cyber]

EDIT: Slightly different wording, but benji beat me

Console gaming gets slightly more expensive

Whelp, I guess human civilization is at its end! Might as well burn this whole thing to the ground. 

[NekoFever]

If I was a tradesman and someone tried to pay me by cheque in 2026, then did the “oops none of my cards work” dance, then started making shifty-sounding excuses about not being able to contact the bank after 48 hours, I’d be shouting down the phone at him too.

[filler]

I don't use social media.

Dabbled in Blue sky for a bit but that got boring as hell months ago and the last time I used Twitter was during the 360 era to ask Xbox a question.

I started using twitter again but didn't see anything about it because I don't follow any faggots

[Besticus Maximus]

If I was a tradesman and someone tried to pay me by cheque in 2026, then did the “oops none of my cards work” dance, then started making shifty-sounding excuses about not being able to contact the bank after 48 hours, I’d be shouting down the phone at him too.

I hate dealing with tradies because they all think I'm like them and know all their tricks and in reality I have a one day a week in the office job and I've got no idea how to handle them. So we talk about football and I become their pal while constantly wondering if I'm being a basic bitch about interacting with small business owners.

A guy came to hang some doors the other week, I've got a plasterer next week, I'm trying to be normal and its hard because these people are ostensibly my friends but I went to school instead and I don't know whats going on

[Snoopy]

Unless the customer was some 80 yr old pensioner I wouldn’t accept a cheque either. Reading his excuses it’s obvious he was skint. He could have just been honest with the guy instead of trying to fuck him about.

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/layoffs-currently-happening-at-bungie-and-some-sie-support-employees-see-threadmarks.1560844/post-156994711

I'm so upset. I was in an okay mood this morning but I feel like my blood has been replaced by lava this afternoon. I'm going to be pissed off for days.

[Let's Cyber]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/updated-xbox-console-prices-512gb-skus-increasing-by-100-1tb-by-150-2tb-sunsetted-series-s-499-599-series-x-749-799.1561096/page-17#post-156995665

I'm sitting at a tech conference with a dudebro telling us how great this "sacrifice" is. I just booed loudly and was removed.

We are cooked.

[Besticus Maximus]

I loved bungle's games up until they started content vaulting but I don't know anybody at that studio and I'm certainly not going to cry about it. Legit insane their lives are so empty.

The exact moment it died was when Destiny released and it was exactly the same game as the alpha and the beta with literally nothing else except worse peter dinklage 

[who is ted danson?]

I would be happy to pre-order the PS6 at a price between $1500 and $2000

[HaughtyFrank]

I would be happy to pre-order the PS6 at a price between $1500 and $2000

Just let me pre-order right away so they can't raise the price between announcement and release

[Snoopy]

And if you pay in instalments you can get your glorious new PS6 for the low, low price of 3000 dorrars

[Boredfrom]

Nah, I’m with ERA about console and PC pricing getting ridiculous.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/compulsion-games-staff-members-posting-looking-for-work-on-linkedin-many-others-set-to-opentowork.1560463/

Omega thread backfire

Can you guys PLEASE stop stalking our LinkedIn profiles. We're actual individuals with lives. We don't want out face plastered over some forum whether if it's because people stalk our profiles for leaks, news about games or layoffs. You guys are not journalists. It's doing nothing. It adds pressure. It's weird behavior.

From Constructive about it

Want to ask this as a genuine question to staff and others as I personally am not sure how I feel about it: what is the stance on people trawling through Linkedin to find news about studios closures/layoffs to post here?
There's a thread currently on the front page which is that; I've reported it but no idea if its against the rules or not. I think personally, given that we're talking about real people's actual livelihoods, it feels a bit uncomfortable to me to have information sought in that way and then speculated on by other posters. I think I'd feel more confortable if people waited for either official confirmation or media reporting before posting this as news... but then I'm also aware that what's being posted is publicly available information and so its out there to be talked about.

I think it's pretty shit. Back when I was checking in on the Xbox OT on the regular there was always someone there doing that I always found that disgusting, like, what is the point?

I mean its publicly available information at the end of the day. Like its kind of creepy but its not like its hidden away from prying eyes.



edit: ok yeah having now seen the thread in its entirety I think posting a bunch of peoples posts directly is pretty iffy when the gist of the thread being "This studio has done some layoffs" or whatever. I don't think they need to out specific people there.

Want to ask this as a genuine question to staff and others as I personally am not sure how I feel about it: what is the stance on people trawling through Linkedin to find news about studios closures/layoffs to post here?
There's a thread currently on the front page which is that; I've reported it but no idea if its against the rules or not. I think personally, given that we're talking about real people's actual livelihoods, it feels a bit uncomfortable to me to have information sought in that way and then speculated on by other posters. I think I'd feel more confortable if people waited for either official confirmation or media reporting before posting this as news... but then I'm also aware that what's being posted is publicly available information and so its out there to be talked about.

I don't think it's a problem to have a general post but what i do see critical is posting personal information like full names of affected devs.

Want to ask this as a genuine question to staff and others as I personally am not sure how I feel about it: what is the stance on people trawling through Linkedin to find news about studios closures/layoffs to post here?
There's a thread currently on the front page which is that; I've reported it but no idea if its against the rules or not. I think personally, given that we're talking about real people's actual livelihoods, it feels a bit uncomfortable to me to have information sought in that way and then speculated on by other posters. I think I'd feel more confortable if people waited for either official confirmation or media reporting before posting this as news... but then I'm also aware that what's being posted is publicly available information and so its out there to be talked about.

It's my thread. I'm not engaging with the posts on there calling it gross and stalking etc as it will just derail the thread. As far as I know, it's within the rules (thread whining not so much). For the record, it's not "stalking" as suggested in that thread - one of my contacts there posted about their layoffs, I clicked Compulsion Games, those are the most recent posts.



I'd really prefer ResetEra didn't try to silence dev's only voices. The official lines are things like this:







Which, in my opinion, is actually gross.

I don't think it's a problem to have a general post but what i do see critical is posting personal information like full names of affected devs.

To be clear, those are the public posts of the devs. Their posts are linked, it may help get employment (which is why they posted).

To be clear, those are the public posts of the devs.

The names still have no relevance to the information you want to convey.



If i posted a thread about look how Mr RedbullCola is looking for a job it would also be weird

The names still have no relevance to the information you want to convey

It's their own posts and profiles which are set to OpenToWork. Many of them have little to no interactivity on their LinkedIn posts. They've set them public and their posts are sharable. By linking them here, it brings visibility which may get them hired.

The names still have no relevance to the information you want to convey

They're people announcing to the world they've been laid off and are looking for work. Surely boosting their exposure is a positive thing.

If someone posted one of my public profiles here from another platform without inquiring it with me, I would find it very uncomfortable regardless of the context. This forum isn't known for recruitment, it's known for being weird about everything.

Boosting them by putting their named out on a video game forum will surely lead to them finding a job.



I'm sure studios are just itching to search through era to find their new employees.



How about next time you look for a job you tell me and i post your information on a forum?

If I was looking for a job in video games I'd be happy to have it posted here. Don't link it to my Era account though. I've probably said a lot of stuff that'd put employers off.

I don't think it's about silencing dev voices; it's that the people posted in the thread haven't asked to be made into news. If a former staff member made a post saying the studio had laid people off, and that was made into a thread, that feels different to me than just saying "hey it seems like a lot of people have left the studio". It's a subtle difference but it's there.



But anyway, I think I actually have less of an issue with the thread itself than the reaction it inevitably brings. Because you just end up with a load of people speculating based on very limited information, and that's the bit that grosses me out when we're talking about real people. Already people are guessing that the studio has closed, which is not what you or the thread have suggested.



I don't know, like I said before I genuinely don't know how I feel about it and can see both sides, I was more just raising it for discussing and staff input.

I don't think it's about silencing dev voices; it's that the people posted in the thread haven't asked to be made into news. If a former staff member made a post saying the studio had laid people off, and that was made into a thread, that feels different to me than just saying "hey it seems like a lot of people have left the studio". It's a subtle difference but it's there.



But anyway, I think I actually have less of an issue with the thread itself than the reaction it inevitably brings. Because you just end up with a load of people speculating based on very limited information, and that's the bit that grosses me out when we're talking about real people. Already people are guessing that the studio has closed, which is not what you or the thread have suggested.



I don't know, like I said before I genuinely don't know how I feel about it and can see both sides, I was more just raising it for discussing and staff input.

I get the concern, of course. There's a few posts from people there who have their posts set to private - obviously, I haven't included those.



My view is it's ultimately up to the people posting the messages to chose the distribution. If we didn't talk about things people post on social media here or try to seek permission to post social media posts here first, the forum would be very quiet as that's the basis of a lot of threads.



I will say - there's been about 4 threads speculating about Compulsion Games future here in the past few weeks, all driven by media reports (e.g. one a few weeks ago said everybody had already been laid off - that wasn't true). This is the first time devs have directly, publicly said they're looking for work. In my opinion it seems like a good idea to talk about that, as it's factual information direct from the developers for a change. But ultimately, yep, I'll follow any staff guidance. I'm not super keen on being called a stalker in that thread, because.. it's literally LinkedIn posts where they've tagged Compulsion, it isn't rummaging through bins to find them.

Boosting them by putting their named out on a video game forum will surely lead to them finding a job.



I'm sure studios are just itching to search through era to find their new employees.



How about next time you look for a job you tell me and i post your information on a forum?

The same video game forum where there are a lot of actual video game devs, ranging from indie to AAA?



It's not weird. Your whataboutism is, though.

There are several devs in that thread calling on OP not to do it because it's weird so please don't assume you're doing something good here

 

I think it's important to think about the wider context of what's happening for events like this.



With Compulsion, specifically, the narrative from some sections of the internet is that they made a "woke" game and because of that, the studio deserves to go out of business, and people are celebrating these people being out of a job.



Is that happening here? Well no, but it is not necessarily a good thing to spread the names of the people who are losing their job to a wider audience, especially since they are especially vulnerable to harassment and there is absolutely a group waiting to dance on the studio's grave on the internet.



Even here, a place that is generally seen as more sympathetic to devs, has seen posts about how Compulsion and others involved "should have put out good games", "should have put out something more appealing" and other similar sentences that are both disconnected from how being a developer works and does have an uncomfortable amount of dissonance within it if you don't know the poster's intentions.



But yea, in normal situations this would probably be less of a problem, but when the people in the industry being laid off worked on something "woke" or are LGBTQ2S+ or women, you are putting a target on their back and raising their profile to the wider internet, and that can absolutely follow them to wherever they go next.



Food for thought that I hope people keep in mind in the future.

unrelated 

Hello. Maybe we could have AI subforum like we have with Sales/CCU? I don't want to see couple of the same/new threads every day because somebody said something about AI or some company is using AI.

Hello. Maybe we could have AI subforum like we have with Sales/CCU? I don't want to see couple of the same/new threads every day because somebody said something about AI or some company is using AI.

There's an AI tag. Also, there are two separate AI OTs that exist (one positive, one negative). I personally appreciate the new news, new thread threads relating to AI because they serve as PSAs to people on here on which companies (especially gaming ones) are engaging in unethical practices. For example, I'd rather have it be known to all that a developer or publisher is replacing their artists via layoffs in the name of AI and having an individual user filter that out than shoving the entire forum's head in the sand by burying that news in a subforum.

I love the fact that they think they're going to die if they see the letters AI

Members only 

[jooseloose]

Reading that thread you'd think Sony have executed the Bungie staff.

[Let's Cyber]

Nah, I’m with ERA about console and PC pricing getting ridiculous.

I don't think anyone is saying that the increasing prices are fine and not ridiculous. 

but these

The guillotines aren't coming soon enough

trying to enjoy what I can before everything crumbles entirely.

 are not normal reactions to your gaming hardware becoming more expensive breh

[BIONIC]

I don't use social media.

Dabbled in Blue sky for a bit but that got boring as hell months ago and the last time I used Twitter was during the 360 era to ask Xbox a question.

I started using twitter again but didn't see anything about it because I don't follow any faggots

I thought you followed Himu?

[filler]

[filler]

himu vs the wally is top 20 old bore moment

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/john-fetterman-claims-having-%E2%80%98contempt-for-israel%E2%80%99-means-%E2%80%98you%E2%80%99re-anti-american%E2%80%99.1560661/page-2#post-156989782

#88

Considering how many of our government they own, he's right.

[Nintex]

The maidan revolution in Ukraine was a CIA op to interfere in their elections and create a western puppet on russias border. They empowered and armed Nazi sympathizing Ukrainian right wing fringe groups that went on to attack and oppress pro-socialist ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine. Same as the Iranian "protests" of a few months ago and many of these other "color revolutions."

Russia is bad for invading Ukraine but acting like it's some irrational random act with no prior instigation is an oversimplification and is a narrative created by western imperial interests.

[benji]

*industry makes record revenue year after year*

THIS IS UNSUSTAINABLE, WE NEED A CRASH

*company with issues makes changes*

THIS IS UNSUSTAINABLE, HOW ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE

*company buys other company*

THIS IS UNSUSTAINBALE, DEATH TO THE SUITS

*companies try to use AI to lower labor costs*

THIS IS UNSUSTAINBALE, THE PLANET IS LITERALLY BOILING

*industry makes record revenue year after year*

[Nintex]

I told you guys the best time to buy any electronic device or gaming equipment is right the fuck now.

I keep telling people this, they wait, shit is $100 more expensive.
Prices won't come down ever, they'll only go up.

[benji]

Xbox thread had tons of posts that were like "who the fuck do they think can buy these???" Talking about how they should just stop manufacturing them because nobody will be able to afford them.

The same people who have always bought consoles. You, dummy.

The price change of a single game isn't marginal for the people who aren't working entry level hourly jobs into their 40s or not working at all. You demanded and are still demanding inflation, yet the costs are still smaller out of people's income than what your parents paid for yours.

They have basically one setting: zero sum catastrophizing. Gaming is over because costs are increasing as they always have. Bungie's dead because Sony stopped letting them spend whatever. A cabal of pedophiles is taking over gaming. The bodies will pile up from teenagers not as easily being on social media. A locksmith is going to butcher me and my mom because I won't give him his money.

[benji]

The "average voter"  

[Boredfrom]

So Hasan is okay with the “animal abuser” label?

[Besticus Maximus]

Xbox thread had tons of posts that were like "who the fuck do they think can buy these???" Talking about how they should just stop manufacturing them because nobody will be able to afford them.

The same people who have always bought consoles. You, dummy.

The price change of a single game isn't marginal for the people who aren't working entry level hourly jobs into their 40s or not working at all. You demanded and are still demanding inflation, yet the costs are still smaller out of people's income than what your parents paid for yours.

They have basically one setting: zero sum catastrophizing. Gaming is over because costs are increasing as they always have. Bungie's dead because Sony stopped letting them spend whatever. A cabal of pedophiles is taking over gaming. The bodies will pile up from teenagers not as easily being on social media. A locksmith is going to butcher me and my mom because I won't give him his money.

They seem to have a short to medium term focus on shifting hardware, or testing whether they can. This would make sense for why they made Gears and Clockwork exclusive, games that would maybe move the needle for the hardcore and serve as a test. Given everything that's happened so far they will probably make a push with the Series consoles then hold their hands up and say we tried but hardware is not going to work next time we're now a dreamcast zombie.

[Boredfrom]

Nah, I’m with ERA about console and PC pricing getting ridiculous.

I don't think anyone is saying that the increasing prices are fine and not ridiculous. 

[benji]

YOUR 👏 PERSONAL 👏 COMPLAINTS 👏 ARE 👏 NOT 👏 INHERENTLY 👏 SYSTEMIC 👏 ISSUES 👏

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/supergirl-review-thread-jun-26.1559860/page-14#post-156997795

She would be perfect for the next Mad Max movie as the feral kid from the original movies. Somehow connect the Gibson movies with the last two.