Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sincerely-crimson-desert-enhanced-did-wonders-for-the-games-story-makes-it-in-all-honesty-a-very-worthy-goty-nominee-if-you-have-it-please-check.1623511/page-2#post-160058608

 User banned (permanent): Troll account

They still used Gen AI. So still no sale.

Expedition 33 used gen AI and is worshipped on this forum + sold 8m

Drop the "AI = no sale" facade, just buy the game lol

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-neural-rendering-photography-thread-the-future-is-here.1624822/#post-160073899

People should at least look at this simple illustration and ask themselves what they are doing here.

   

the "subtext" of DLSS5 floating above  

biases!!!!!

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/modders-unlock-experimental-nvidia-dlss-5-hours-after-dll-discovery-image-comparisons-in-control.1616686/page-21#post-159754306

 User banned (2 weeks): Trolling. Using a misogynistic slur.

Its not officially over.

But the amount of folk in here cheering on Nvidia plastering over art with cheap airbrushed facsimiles is disheartening

I know, i was only joking. This is the future of gaming. This will be nvAIdias selling point for gamers. Everyone will want to have this. Makes sense why the greedy fucks over there has raised the price of their cards to ridiculous levels. The slow, incompetent people at AMD will attempt this, but will look like this in 5 years: 


Its over for AMD, and nvaidia are are absolute cunts. Fuck em all.

Remember when the mods deleted the will smith spaghetti gif because it was somehow racist? I guess the mods don't remember

Are the hot wings as good in WIll's eyes as spaghetti? I need to know.
Mod Edit: Gif deleted

This feels hella racist. Please get rid of this gif.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/will-smith-is-on-hot-ones.891315/post-124000749

[simiansmarts]

The usual suspects all barged into the neural rendering OT to start shit and immediately got threadbanned 
 
Rare instance of mods actually doing their job on a videogame forum for discussing videogames, I can't imagine how much it hurt Transistor to do that. The discord polycule will not like this one bit.

[HaughtyFrank]

Resetera AI trolls need to step up their game.

This is how you do it 

[Jonsey]

smelly incel who will die alone

The fucking irony. Especially since he lost that MILF

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-so-strong-sabalenka-halts-play-over-cannabis-smell.1624564/page-4#post-160076155

Smoking joints in 2026 is just super inconsiderate imo and dangerous to your health.

[D3RANG3D]

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-neural-rendering-photography-thread-ot-comparison-screenshots-here.1624909/page-4#post-160085983

We can recognise reality without promoting the worst parts of it.



The existence of this thread, and the banning of dissenting voices, is not some neutral stance. It's active promotion of Gen AI.



This forum was one of the few places left on the internet not overrun with AI boosters, and it's sad that even the semi-permeable barriers in place are being taken down.

From Constructive 

[Uncle]

Resetera AI trolls need to step up their game.

This is how you do it 

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-neural-rendering-photography-thread-ot-comparison-screenshots-here.1624909/page-4#post-160086430

It's an argument I keep seeing over and over again. And I'd like to have it addressed honestly, rather than sidestepped or deflected.



"Is it worth it for the 8 ms fixed cost?" I think so, mainly because that cost will be reduced soon.



Another person could say no because they're rocking a 5060 and right now they're not seeing returns, it's too difficult to play the games this way. Totally fair, a reasonable conversation.



"Is it worth it for homoginizing the looks of games?" I don't necessary think this is happening, but I can understand that it's a point of concern. But we're in day one. Things can change with the technology, and its fair to provide technical and aesthetic criticism to those creating new models. There should be an open workflow for artists and creators to design their own models using source assets they've created. And perhaps a hugging face of sorts for uploading models for people to share different looks. And as always, this tech should be optional.





But do you know what sucks ass? This:



"Is it worth it for [literally every single modern criticism regarding AI/LLM?]. I am very scared for my personal future and I'm treating every single discussion about it like my life depends on it and lashing out by yelling at another user on a message board rather than my legislators or the companies making the technology. Also, fuck you you tasteless piece of shit, I'm better than you."



Multiple times. Until discussion becomes impossible.



Like. Nobody can get shit done when things are like this.



And I'm going to be honest, the worst place I've seen for this topic between X, discord, youtube comments, reddit, etc. is here on era.



Like damn y'all grown ass adults, come on.

Ain't this a thread to showcase, discuss, and dissect DLSS5 screenshots?

Good point Lobster Roll.







I think the version with DLSS 5 +PT looks better than the version with Raster + DLS55 and the version with only 4.5 RR PT. It's more aesthetically pleasing to my eyes and I feel it that improves the realism of the image and thus my enjoyment of viewing the game.



I think DLSS 5 is worth using in Cyperpunk 2077 if this is the visual return you get and provided you have the hardware to run it, my personal cuttoff point would be a 5090.



Do you have any thoughts on this screenshot Lobster Roll?

Yeah, that outfit is fire.

Lobster roll is such a bitch 

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-neural-rendering-photography-thread-ot-comparison-screenshots-here.1624909/page-4#post-160085983

We can recognise reality without promoting the worst parts of it.



The existence of this thread, and the banning of dissenting voices, is not some neutral stance. It's active promotion of Gen AI.



This forum was one of the few places left on the internet not overrun with AI boosters, and it's sad that even the semi-permeable barriers in place are being taken down.

From Constructive 

They’re such cunts lol

Derail every thread about AI, mods create a containment thread, forum rules are applied fairly, “How dare you, we want to derail and ruin that thread too.”

Era staff can be relied on to take the dumbest possible option at all times, so watch them not ban the perpetrators but instead reward them by nuking the thread.

[simiansmarts]

Lobster roll is chief DLSS5 shit stirrer but he saw the threadbans of his comrades at the beginning of the thread and realized he had to pump the brakes

[Jansen]

From Constructive 

That thread is already largely them antagonizing from their safe space. Reporting it seems to be at best case, a waste of time, or at worst case seen as "reporting users you don't like" or whatever. Somehow that won't empower them? Okay.

Needless to say they have created multiple pages now on this issue in constructive and it hasn't even been a day

Really disappointed by the decision around DLSS 5, specifically about "The Neural Rendering Photography Thread".



I was hoping for a full ban of any DLSS 5 thread since they don't bring anything of value to this site but they got full protection against any type of criticism instead and now they have a nice island to spread their crap.



I can only start ignoring any DLSS 5 thread I guess, but the whole justification "we are a videogame site, we have to talk about this" after prior (deserved) bans of specific discussion it ends up feeling quite off.



I guess it will be treated like Microsoft discussions, but in that case I feel there is still stuff worth discussing since the amount of studios that are part of MS and the human effort around those games.



DLSS 5 is just the new AI grift...

Based on the way most people have behaved in the DLSS threads, I think I'm in the minority here. I'm not particularly sure this is useful (for me or for others) to post, but I want to say it anyway. Hoping for things you don't like or find objectionable to be outright banned from being discussed is irrational and thinking that some portion of the community should get to decide by posting a lot in subject threads what "[doesn't] bring anything of value to the site" is unreasonable.



I don't have a PC, I don't play games on my computer, and I doubt I will use this technology unless it pops up on a console some day. I'm still fundamentally interested in this and I want to see what other people think and feel about it. Some express themselves constructively even when they are extremely negative. Others are curtly dismissive or rude, demand they get to dictate the terms of the discussion, or shout down others such that it becomes practically impossible for anyone who is interested to partake in the discussion.



There were multiple people in the last thread compare people interested in this to Nazis. I understand AI sentiment runs very hot. I think that's mostly justified. The "Nazi bar" analogy here feels silly and is othering.



Given how limited DLSS5 is right now, I think people complaining about where the images are sourced from feels like a disingenuous complaint to try to get the discussion "banned." I don't really care if an image comes from Twitter; I don't subscribe to every Twitter account on the planet, I don't use Twitter, I don't go looking for them. I'm interested in what people think is representative of the good and bad of this technology and I think most people will start posting their own screenshots as these 8 trillion dollar graphics cards become widespread. Complaining about shots coming from NeoGAF would be metacommentary in any other thread. Debate the shot! I don't go to NeoGAF, so where it comes from as though the shot itself has a political intent is an interesting thing to think about. All art is political-- are all links?



If the forum's conclusion (and this can be decided by the moderation staff) is that there is something uniquely morally objectionable about this technology, if discussing it can only be to condemn it, and if there's no value in letting people talk about its role in gaming more broadly, then that's the conclusion. I would find that an odd conclusion, but at least it would be set in stone.



The Microsoft genocide rules should apply. Those rules, by the way, don't allow for a user to run into any Xbox thread and shout, "This game is garbage and if you play it you have failed." I think caveating the issues with the technology and reminding people of them as they post is a fair outcome while allowing people to actually talk about this.



That's my view. No one asked for it, no one cares, I'm sorry.

Great post. I fucking hate AI and the vast majority of DLSS5 examples look terrible, but the same band of posters trying to disrupt every thread about it is so fucking boring.



I'll never use this technology but I still find it interesting seeing examples of it. Bullying end-users for enjoying experimenting with a game feature or simply discussing the technology is a fool's game. It's incredibly counter-intuitive to the anti-AI cause, as is telling people they're lying, or tasteless or a bot if you don't agree with them.



Just keep a containment thread for the tech and anyone who doesn't like it can hide it. Derailing every thread you don't like so it gets locked doesn't make you Extinction Rebellion, it's just obnoxious and childish.

Bcucked has had enough!

I'm going to be straight up: if anyone thinks a containment thread is an endorsement, they're trolling. It's not, how many times do all of us need to shit on AI to have people actually listen to us instead of making stuff up and putting words in our mouths? Of course we are going to action you if you do that.



For the other thing, please stop spamming reports in an attempt to get the thread shut down and posters you don't like banned. It's fairly transparent when you do this. Also, please stop going into the thread, or any thread for that matter, and acting like moderators. That's something that has resulted in action since day 0, so please don't do it. If we wanted you to do that, we'd reach out and ask you to. All you do in those cases is force us to action you when we would prefer not to.

[Let's Cyber]

Lobster roll is chief DLSS5 shit stirrer but he saw the threadbans of his comrades at the beginning of the thread and realized he had to pump the brakes

And instead of just leaving, he decides to linger and pretends to engage in good faith. 

Definitely normal behavior and not at all a waste of time.

[NekoFever]

From Constructive 

That thread is already largely them antagonizing from their safe space. Reporting it seems to be at best case, a waste of time, or at worst case seen as "reporting users you don't like" or whatever. Somehow that won't empower them? Okay.

Needless to say they have created multiple pages now on this issue in constructive and it hasn't even been a day

Really disappointed by the decision around DLSS 5, specifically about "The Neural Rendering Photography Thread".



I was hoping for a full ban of any DLSS 5 thread since they don't bring anything of value to this site but they got full protection against any type of criticism instead and now they have a nice island to spread their crap.



I can only start ignoring any DLSS 5 thread I guess, but the whole justification "we are a videogame site, we have to talk about this" after prior (deserved) bans of specific discussion it ends up feeling quite off.



I guess it will be treated like Microsoft discussions, but in that case I feel there is still stuff worth discussing since the amount of studios that are part of MS and the human effort around those games.



DLSS 5 is just the new AI grift...

Based on the way most people have behaved in the DLSS threads, I think I'm in the minority here. I'm not particularly sure this is useful (for me or for others) to post, but I want to say it anyway. Hoping for things you don't like or find objectionable to be outright banned from being discussed is irrational and thinking that some portion of the community should get to decide by posting a lot in subject threads what "[doesn't] bring anything of value to the site" is unreasonable.



I don't have a PC, I don't play games on my computer, and I doubt I will use this technology unless it pops up on a console some day. I'm still fundamentally interested in this and I want to see what other people think and feel about it. Some express themselves constructively even when they are extremely negative. Others are curtly dismissive or rude, demand they get to dictate the terms of the discussion, or shout down others such that it becomes practically impossible for anyone who is interested to partake in the discussion.



There were multiple people in the last thread compare people interested in this to Nazis. I understand AI sentiment runs very hot. I think that's mostly justified. The "Nazi bar" analogy here feels silly and is othering.



Given how limited DLSS5 is right now, I think people complaining about where the images are sourced from feels like a disingenuous complaint to try to get the discussion "banned." I don't really care if an image comes from Twitter; I don't subscribe to every Twitter account on the planet, I don't use Twitter, I don't go looking for them. I'm interested in what people think is representative of the good and bad of this technology and I think most people will start posting their own screenshots as these 8 trillion dollar graphics cards become widespread. Complaining about shots coming from NeoGAF would be metacommentary in any other thread. Debate the shot! I don't go to NeoGAF, so where it comes from as though the shot itself has a political intent is an interesting thing to think about. All art is political-- are all links?



If the forum's conclusion (and this can be decided by the moderation staff) is that there is something uniquely morally objectionable about this technology, if discussing it can only be to condemn it, and if there's no value in letting people talk about its role in gaming more broadly, then that's the conclusion. I would find that an odd conclusion, but at least it would be set in stone.



The Microsoft genocide rules should apply. Those rules, by the way, don't allow for a user to run into any Xbox thread and shout, "This game is garbage and if you play it you have failed." I think caveating the issues with the technology and reminding people of them as they post is a fair outcome while allowing people to actually talk about this.



That's my view. No one asked for it, no one cares, I'm sorry.

Great post. I fucking hate AI and the vast majority of DLSS5 examples look terrible, but the same band of posters trying to disrupt every thread about it is so fucking boring.



I'll never use this technology but I still find it interesting seeing examples of it. Bullying end-users for enjoying experimenting with a game feature or simply discussing the technology is a fool's game. It's incredibly counter-intuitive to the anti-AI cause, as is telling people they're lying, or tasteless or a bot if you don't agree with them.



Just keep a containment thread for the tech and anyone who doesn't like it can hide it. Derailing every thread you don't like so it gets locked doesn't make you Extinction Rebellion, it's just obnoxious and childish.

Bcucked has had enough!

I'm going to be straight up: if anyone thinks a containment thread is an endorsement, they're trolling. It's not, how many times do all of us need to shit on AI to have people actually listen to us instead of making stuff up and putting words in our mouths? Of course we are going to action you if you do that.



For the other thing, please stop spamming reports in an attempt to get the thread shut down and posters you don't like banned. It's fairly transparent when you do this. Also, please stop going into the thread, or any thread for that matter, and acting like moderators. That's something that has resulted in action since day 0, so please don't do it. If we wanted you to do that, we'd reach out and ask you to. All you do in those cases is force us to action you when we would prefer not to.

[Uncle]

lil bitches

lil bitches everywhere

   

[Jansen]

Have to admit I didn't think asking the person dumping things wholesale from NeoGAF to at least post comparison shots would be beyond the pale. The only posts I made in the last DLSS5 thread were to make a joke about applying it to Miyabi and reply to someone about a figure they'd bought lol.

[Boredfrom]

I'm going to be straight up: if anyone thinks a containment thread is an endorsement, they're trolling. It's not, how many times do all of us need to shit on AI to have people actually listen to us instead of making stuff up and putting words in our mouths? Of course we are going to action you if you do that.



For the other thing, please stop spamming reports in an attempt to get the thread shut down and posters you don't like banned. It's fairly transparent when you do this. Also, please stop going into the thread, or any thread for that matter, and acting like moderators. That's something that has resulted in action since day 0, so please don't do it. If we wanted you to do that, we'd reach out and ask you to. All you do in those cases is force us to action you when we would prefer not to.

Two things:

1) So containment threads are for lepering  Hamas ERA must be thrilled. 

2) You are the one encouraging others to report posts.

[Jansen]

So, it took a minute to figure out why it wasn't working right but the other place's image host is filtered out.





Yep. We have a couple hundred, if not a couple thousand, more posters than they do and way more daily traffic. In truth, we have that feature too, but it would put too much strain on the servers and would make us more vulnerable to takedown requests.

BDubs strikes a blow already against refuge Island due to popular demand

[simiansmarts]

It’s been said before but they really are like spoiled children being told no for the first time. The SLIGHTEST pushback against their politically/morally righteous crusade (a self-contained OT that they can easily ignore) and all hell breaks loose

It’s either add it banned content list or let us ruin every discussion until thread closure. Thats their ultimatum

[Uncle]

and of course the subtext running under all of this is b-dubs thinking to himself "god fucking dammit guys of COURSE we want to ban all AI talk, but our ownership won't let us, they gave us a hard rule not to ban any other games or broad topics because that limits engagement, and growth/discussion is what keeps the site running, but if I actually stated this publicly we'd have open revolt"

[Besticus Maximus]

Hey Kyuuji! Get fucked you massive bellend

[Nintex]

POV: President Trump deploys the TESLA bots to deal with the remaining anti AI woke resistance cornered at the furry convention and accidentally hits their HRT drugs lab

[simiansmarts]

Of course Cunting Eden makes a blatant response thread after getting thread banned from the DLSS5 one, what a manbaby 
 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/highlighting-video-game-artists-thread.1625074/ 
 
There’s deep irony in a forum that regularly expresses their utter contempt and disdain for game developers all of a sudden wanting to have an “appreciation thread” but only as a weapon for their moral crusade

[Orange Juice Box]

It’s been said before but they really are like spoiled children being told no for the first time. The SLIGHTEST pushback against their politically/morally righteous crusade (a self-contained OT that they can easily ignore) and all hell breaks loose

It’s either add it banned content list or let us ruin every discussion until thread closure. Thats their ultimatum

It's a thing that has no effect upon them.  Some people with swass computers out there in the world are using video card settings to make some games look better.  And they are mad!

[HaughtyFrank]

Of course Cunting Eden makes a blatant response thread after getting thread banned from the DLSS5 one, what a manbaby 
 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/highlighting-video-game-artists-thread.1625074/ 
 
There’s deep irony in a forum that regularly expresses their utter contempt and disdain for game developers all of a sudden wanting to have an “appreciation thread” as weapon for their moral crusade

I cant praise a developer before I know whether they endorsed October 7th and Kirk getting kirked like any good ally would  

[Uncle]

Of course Cunting Eden makes a blatant response thread after getting thread banned from the DLSS5 one, what a manbaby 
 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/highlighting-video-game-artists-thread.1625074/ 
 
There’s deep irony in a forum that regularly expresses their utter contempt and disdain for game developers all of a sudden wanting to have an “appreciation thread” as weapon for their moral crusade

there's nothing more revolting than when they go into this phase of LA LA LA WE'RE LOUDLY TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE OTHER THING HA HA WE'RE BEING SO SINCERE RIGHT NOW AND GENUINELY COMPLIMENTING EACH OTHER

like the times mods and their buddies brigaded a thread with lolrandom "funny" posts to change the subject

[NekoFever]

So, it took a minute to figure out why it wasn't working right but the other place's image host is filtered out.





Yep. We have a couple hundred, if not a couple thousand, more posters than they do and way more daily traffic. In truth, we have that feature too, but it would put too much strain on the servers and would make us more vulnerable to takedown requests.

BDubs strikes a blow already against refuge Island due to popular demand

Era banned and chased off so many people that after stealing GAF’s huge user base the difference is now “a couple hundred”

[Besticus Maximus]

How many of those users are in our 41 guests pile? Can one of you tell that big ginger nonce to get fucked too?