Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Jansen]

Yea I think he definitely shocked his dog but I don't think he's a serial dog abuser or anything



But to your overall point, I somewhat agree. I do think he's very intelligent, and his heart is in the right place as you mentioned, and he does need to work on how he speaks



But this is the crux of the issue with millionaire mansion-dwelling twitch streamers becoming the "voice" of particular sides of the political spectrum.. it just gets kinda messy



With that being said, I don't have all the answers
 😞

There you go. Now tell me that Al-Qaeda wouldn't be worse if they had access to the US military given their history of killing people with a fraction of a fraction of that reach and influence.



It was a stupid ass comment. Nobody is going to deny the US sucks, but it was a stupid ass comment and pretending he said the thing he should have said instead of what he actually said makes you guys look like unserious fanboys.

and hyperfocusing on every single fucking thing this guy says, or any prominent muslim for that matter makes you look like an islamophobe

[simiansmarts]

Hasan is one of the few topics on REEE where you can regularly make fun of/criticize, make the discord members really mad and not get banned for it. Jeff and his ilk have tried really hard to make Hasan slander a bannable offense under "downplaying genocide" and "islamophobia" (thedisruptor is shamelessly jumping to it as if he has any power over B-Dumbs) and succeeded in some cases but never to extent as other topics where users have to walk on eggshells to post in. Sexy videogame women threads catch more bans than the average Hasan Piker thread.
 

[DavidCroquet]

The thread is funny because it's like

"hey, we need to signalboost this convo for hasan!"
"uh, Hasan says that if al-qaeda and the US were of equal size and military strength, the US is still worse"
"WOW GEEZ getting all into the specifics about hyperfocused tiny phrases, here we go again! I wanted people to listen to what Hasan has to say, not actually pay attention to his words doofus!...and actually he's right anyway *looks around nervously*"

Also I never get tired of a bunch of people who live in the general west being simultaneously believing and reiterating that they reside in the belly of th great satan, the most evil force that has ever moved upon the firmament, and then be like "but I got work early tomorrow and gotta camp this Zelda 40th Anniversary Edition Switch 2 preorder page, so someone else will need to handle that."

[HaughtyFrank]

These guys are beyond parody 

"Here's an interview with Hasan"

*5 minutes later*

"Why are you focusing so much on what Hasan said 😭"

[DavidCroquet]

One non-dubs poster is like "oh well, it looks like Hasan corrected his comments and walked it back, so that's good I guess".

Then another poster is like "Ok you're always saying this? Why do you need everyone to know Hasan corrected himself? Why is that so important to you? You're obsessed!"

Very normal reactions all around. 

Anyway I'm gonna go check for updates in the Bire's dedicated Hasan Hate Thread that bears my own name.

[Let's Cyber]

These guys are beyond parody 

"Here's an interview with Hasan"

*5 minutes later*

"Why are you focusing so much on what Hasan said 😭"

They expect everyone to treat Hasan with streamer kid gloves despite him trying to use his audience and influence to engage in politics. "Clip chimping" is part and parcel with being in the modern US political arena. 

People going to be clipping him like crazy for that

Yeah, in the real world, this is the content of a vast majority of attack ads.   

Is Hasan a political agent trying to play kingmaker or a streamer just trying to entertain? Why does he try so hard to ride that line? That alone reveals his real motives, imo.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/axios-interview-with-hasan-piker-on-a-variety-of-topics-is-out.1636858/page-3#post-160728964

"America has actually killed more people than Al Qaeda!" as a defense of his real argument is classic motte and bailey. Yes, that is factual. But that is also factual for more than a hundred countries. Any superpower, even regional ones, by definition will affect more people's lives than a terrorist group. You can criticize the US' history of terrible atrocities abroad without making this sort of moral equivalency, otherwise I start to wonder why a guy so concerned with overall death tolls would cosplay as Mao Tse Tung. Not to mention the obvious: maybe don't latch yourself to campaigns and then publicly state that America is worse than Al Qaeda. Not helping anyone there.

That it's meaningless. "Higher death toll = worse" isn't a criteria that anyone would use. It's obfuscation. Hasan is a classic campist, he believes America is the world's greatest evil and shows endless sympathy for whichever country or group can be propped up as an adversary to the US' hegemony. That's the real argument he's making.

A new Challenger appears

[DavidCroquet]

[HaughtyFrank]

[QUOTE="B-Dubs, post: 160725871, member: 143"]

and hyperfocusing on every single fucking thing this guy says, or any prominent muslim for that matter makes you look like an islamophobe

A cunt like this should just get insta banned. Like nothing about this has to do with Islam and yet he cries about islmaophobia. Pretty sure it's the same cunt who implied that the teacher who was beheaded in France had it coming

[Boredfrom]

But to your overall point, I somewhat agree. I do think he's very intelligent, and his heart is in the right place as you mentioned, and he does need to work on how he speaks

 

Everything I have heard and seen from this guy speaks of someone that failed upwards and gets a free pass because his looks. 

A intelligent person would have killed the shock collar rumor immediately (he didn’t because it was true and didn’t know how to spin it) and a good hearted person will not continuously lie about that and his role spreading political talking points.

[DavidCroquet]

Everyone in the thread now: "actually, 'higher death toll = worse' IS totally a legitimate way to measure overall moral goodness of an entity!"

Suddenly Al Qaeda is in the 90th percentile of all organizations that have ever existed in world, measured by Goodness (where Goodness = inverse of total # of deaths caused)

[saltygeneraltso]

Anheuser‑Busch is one of the biggest terror orgs in the US. It is known.

[Rendle]

"I'm sure that Al Qaeda is morally superior, but every time I crunch the numbers America ends up coming ahead"

[Boredfrom]

Dice is entitled to an opinion and although I think she misunderstands a lot of the motivations behind the causes she's behind I don't think its a bad thing at all for women to object to stuff. What I think is bad is 42 year old Mr Benjamn Franklin McGoo murdering legions of accounts online because they like Waifu Extractor Magicians 5 and you like Umbral Tentalcies Strategies

Nobody would have problem with her takes if she wasn’t part of the clique that loves enforcing their opinions to the general forum and enabler of TransEra gaining prominence. 

I agree that having contradictory and half thought opinions is not a crime, is a discussion forum after all, but she is one of those that don’t allow dissent.

[BananaBlast]

Never noticed it before, but god lmao it's stupid now that I see how common and obvious it is. Also, props Dice for such an incredibly hilariously written OP. I was rolling laughing lol

Thank you for reminding me that when the plot allowed Kallen to be on top of things, someone always would get smacked the fuck around for trying to find out shit they shouldn't have.

And lemme forget that she was dressed like a playboy bunny on a casino in the first episodes of the 2nd season's start cause I wanna believe that Geass wasn't kind of a mess. PS I fucking adore C.C. and am not free of sin.

But this is a great thread and I will now never not notice how useless these things are as anything but framing for chesticles, thank you Dice, your threads genuinely rule!

Dice you're so real for posting this. I know it's not related, but I saw my husband playing FE FW yesterday and saw that Theodora is literally wearing a golden whale tailed thong. UNHINGED

You're the best, Dice. We're lucky to have you.

Dice well done again on the thread. I chuckle every time I scroll past the title

Why are they glazing Dice so much 💀

[simiansmarts]

Never noticed it before, but god lmao it's stupid now that I see how common and obvious it is. Also, props Dice for such an incredibly hilariously written OP. I was rolling laughing lol

Thank you for reminding me that when the plot allowed Kallen to be on top of things, someone always would get smacked the fuck around for trying to find out shit they shouldn't have.

And lemme forget that she was dressed like a playboy bunny on a casino in the first episodes of the 2nd season's start cause I wanna believe that Geass wasn't kind of a mess. PS I fucking adore C.C. and am not free of sin.

But this is a great thread and I will now never not notice how useless these things are as anything but framing for chesticles, thank you Dice, your threads genuinely rule!

Dice you're so real for posting this. I know it's not related, but I saw my husband playing FE FW yesterday and saw that Theodora is literally wearing a golden whale tailed thong. UNHINGED

You're the best, Dice. We're lucky to have you.

Dice well done again on the thread. I chuckle every time I scroll past the title

Why are they glazing Dice so much 💀

Because if they don't, she'll leave and REEE will be down another biological woman (an extremely rare finite resource) which means another neckbeard is gonna have come out as Lilith to make up for her exit.

[Rendle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/axios-interview-with-hasan-piker-on-a-variety-of-topics-is-out.1636858/page-4#post-160734250

If Carl Sagan had had to stream 8 hours a day, 6 days a week, he too would've said something stupid.

Are they saying that streaming turns people anti-Semitic, or that Carl Sagan was an anti-semite and if he had been a streamer the mask would slip?

[Boredfrom]

Pygrus is back at ERA? 

Dude gets banned for 2 months, gets back and gets banned again in less than a week because he is too spicy even for Hamas ERA.

[Rendle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/axios-interview-with-hasan-piker-on-a-variety-of-topics-is-out.1636858/page-5#post-160736353

Because he's broadly promoting truth and justice? He quite firmly believes in what he's doing. Watch 20 mins of one of his broadcasts and you'll see that. He pops off from time to time and says something overly inflammatory, and he ignores certain topics or issues, but overall he speaks truth to power and checks all his sources. You DON'T want somebody like that on mainstream media?

I didn't understand this post until I saw the username of the person who made it.

[Boredfrom]

That sounds like what Trumptards say about Trump.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lady-gaga-welcomes-first-child-via-surrogate.1637212/#post-160736230

This. You just don't get to talk about the liberation of people if it's not ALL people, especially if you get to abuse your position of privilege to do so. This is human trafficking, she quite literally BOUGHT A FUCKING BABY. For all I care she can go to hell.

I don't give a biological fuck, she exploited a vulnerable woman to get her whim. Because it's a whim, having biological kids of your own is NOT a human right. I can't believe how y'all can excuse this rich people bullshit that's a extremely tiny step removed from organ traficking.

Adoption is another whole can of worms, especially the way it works in the US, but at least that's taking a kid that already exists out of foster care and into a loving home which is a net positive, and doesn't require exploiting the urgent needs of a woman in a vulnerable position just because you want to pass your genes so badly

How else would you accept the massive health risks of a pregnancy, the postpartum, and even the risk of getting stuck with an eventually rejected baby with a disability (which we see reports of all the time) that you cannot take care of if it's not because you urgently need that money? Yeah, from time to time you'll get those weird ass articles about a woman CEO that became a surrogate because she wanted to experience what pregnancy was that are nothing but fabrications to whitewash this garbage but one you scratch a bit and see all the horror stories you see this industry for what it is: the mass exploitation of women in need by unscrupulous rich people.

Even if rich people can afford to do it in a more "ethical" way (I still don't think it's ethical, but whatever), all it does is normalizing this behavior for upper-middle class people that are the ones that eventually resort to the less ethical manners. Like... guess where all those people went to buy a baby when the Ukraine war started, and then cried for days on end on TV when our government didn't let them come back with babies that they didn't birth and therefore weren't theirs according to the Spanish legislation, thank the heavens.

Jeff has an opinion

Surrogacy is nowhere near a black and white situation where there is a clear moral ground to stand on.



Certainly not where you can say that all surrogacy is human trafficking, which I think does a great disservice and is actually quite offensive to victims of true human trafficking. Women and children who are kidnapped and sold into sex slavery.



I say that as someone who does question some of the morality behind surrogacy but we're also talking about women choosing to do something with their own bodies. The idea that every woman who chooses to be a surrogate is doing so because they are poor and being taken advantage of is false. One of my mother's best friends was a surrogate and was absolutely not doing it because she desperately needed the money.



Every situation is different, so we should be careful about throwing out wildly presumptive takes for what is a very complicated topic.

Just another normal day on reee

[Boredfrom]

I had no idea people were against using a surrogate. Learn something new everyday, but it makes sense.

“So you are going to accept this uncritically?” 

“Yep. It makes sense.” 

Remember that people can discuss and accept new points of view without the self righteous asshole preaching to everyone. That was usually the accepted modus of doing things.

How else would you accept the massive health risks of a pregnancy, the postpartum, and even the risk of getting stuck with an eventually rejected baby with a disability (which we see reports of all the time) that you cannot take care of if it's not because you urgently need that money? Yeah, from time to time you'll get those weird ass articles about a woman CEO that became a surrogate because she wanted to experience what pregnancy was that are nothing but fabrications to whitewash this garbage but one you scratch a bit and see all the horror stories you see this industry for what it is: the mass exploitation of women in need by unscrupulous rich people.

Almost sounds ProLife.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/axios-interview-with-hasan-piker-on-a-variety-of-topics-is-out.1636858/page-4#post-160734250

If Carl Sagan had had to stream 8 hours a day, 6 days a week, he too would've said something stupid.

Are they saying that streaming turns people anti-Semitic, or that Carl Sagan was an anti-semite and if he had been a streamer the mask would slip?

Even better, they're saying that streaming 8 hours a day, 6 days a week turns someone's brains to mush and you have to automatically expect to disregard and forgive the many retarded things that the streamer will certainly say.

Wait, why are we defending this as a valuable and worthwhile method of earning a living and/or contributing to
society again?

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/axios-interview-with-hasan-piker-on-a-variety-of-topics-is-out.1636858/page-4#post-160734250

If Carl Sagan had had to stream 8 hours a day, 6 days a week, he too would've said something stupid.

Are they saying that streaming turns people anti-Semitic, or that Carl Sagan was an anti-semite and if he had been a streamer the mask would slip?

Even better, they're saying that streaming 8 hours a day, 6 days a week turns someone's brains to mush and you have to automatically expect to disregard and forgive the many retarded things that the streamer will certainly say.

Wait, why are we defending this as a valuable and worthwhile method of earning a living and/or contributing ot society again?

Yes. Is just like Superman.

[Boredfrom]

Even if rich people can afford to do it in a more "ethical" way (I still don't think it's ethical, but whatever), all it does is normalizing this behavior for upper-middle class people that are the ones that eventually resort to the less ethical manners. Like... guess where all those people went to buy a baby when the Ukraine war started, and then cried for days on end on TV when our government didn't let them come back with babies that they didn't birth and therefore weren't theirs according to the Spanish legislation, thank the heavens.

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lady-gaga-welcomes-first-child-via-surrogate.1637212/#post-160736230

This. You just don't get to talk about the liberation of people if it's not ALL people, especially if you get to abuse your position of privilege to do so. This is human trafficking, she quite literally BOUGHT A FUCKING BABY. For all I care she can go to hell.

I don't give a biological fuck, she exploited a vulnerable woman to get her whim. Because it's a whim, having biological kids of your own is NOT a human right. I can't believe how y'all can excuse this rich people bullshit that's a extremely tiny step removed from organ traficking.

Adoption is another whole can of worms, especially the way it works in the US, but at least that's taking a kid that already exists out of foster care and into a loving home which is a net positive, and doesn't require exploiting the urgent needs of a woman in a vulnerable position just because you want to pass your genes so badly

How else would you accept the massive health risks of a pregnancy, the postpartum, and even the risk of getting stuck with an eventually rejected baby with a disability (which we see reports of all the time) that you cannot take care of if it's not because you urgently need that money? Yeah, from time to time you'll get those weird ass articles about a woman CEO that became a surrogate because she wanted to experience what pregnancy was that are nothing but fabrications to whitewash this garbage but one you scratch a bit and see all the horror stories you see this industry for what it is: the mass exploitation of women in need by unscrupulous rich people.

Even if rich people can afford to do it in a more "ethical" way (I still don't think it's ethical, but whatever), all it does is normalizing this behavior for upper-middle class people that are the ones that eventually resort to the less ethical manners. Like... guess where all those people went to buy a baby when the Ukraine war started, and then cried for days on end on TV when our government didn't let them come back with babies that they didn't birth and therefore weren't theirs according to the Spanish legislation, thank the heavens.

Jeff has an opinion

Surrogacy is nowhere near a black and white situation where there is a clear moral ground to stand on.



Certainly not where you can say that all surrogacy is human trafficking, which I think does a great disservice and is actually quite offensive to victims of true human trafficking. Women and children who are kidnapped and sold into sex slavery.



I say that as someone who does question some of the morality behind surrogacy but we're also talking about women choosing to do something with their own bodies. The idea that every woman who chooses to be a surrogate is doing so because they are poor and being taken advantage of is false. One of my mother's best friends was a surrogate and was absolutely not doing it because she desperately needed the money.



Every situation is different, so we should be careful about throwing out wildly presumptive takes for what is a very complicated topic.

Just another normal day on reee

LADY GAGA IS DOING HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND ORGAN HARVESTING!!! 
 


also FUCK YOU jeff for trying to be all "guys, guys, there's nuance to this" when you go straight to "THERE'S A GENOCIDE YOU ZIONIST PIGDOG!" whenever your precious Hasan gets criticized.

[Boredfrom]

ERA: I hate AAA gaming.

Also ERA: Leave AAA developers alone.  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamesindustry-biz-pulling-focus-must-aaa-pander-to-the-distracted-opinion.1637290/

Look at some of the bigger games of the last five years. Baldur's Gate 3, Elden Ring, the French thing.

None of them do that shit.

All of these games don't have to sell insane amount of copies to justify their budget. They can afford to have friction

But they sold insane amounts of copies BECAUSE  the friction.  

Sony got in the same trap that Ubisoft did, reducing risk by reiterating in a proven formula while not bothering in searching for alternatives in case the gravy’s train stopped coming.

[Nintex]

Well the average player is on drugs, meds, anti-depressants or otherwise intoxicated. Scrolling feeds of endless slop on their phone while stuffing pizza in their fat face. Using a greasy controller with stains and sticky buttons.

[Boredfrom]

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lady-gaga-welcomes-first-child-via-surrogate.1637212/page-2#post-160738738

Yup, that's exactly what they did because it's illegal here. They tried some legal loophole suggested by one of those unscrupulous agencies to strong arm the government "because the baby" but it didn't work. I don't know the exact administrative situation of those kids, but I'm pretty sure they're not registered as the surrogate parents' kids.







How about if you cannot have a baby... then don't have a baby? It's not a life and death situation that you have to exploit somebody else to have it in your behalf. Plenty of people can't have kids and they just don't. Perhaps get some other kid off foster care at least?

What a genuine piece of shit.