Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nazi-piece-of-shit-gavin-newsom-vetoes-yet-another-pro-trans-bill.1643011/

That's Nazi Piece of Shit and Future President Gavn Newsom vetos yet another pro trans bill.

They can’t use Gavin Newscum without sounding Trumpish. Gavin Newcisscum? Gavin Ewwsom?

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nazi-piece-of-shit-gavin-newsom-vetoes-yet-another-pro-trans-bill.1643011/

So, asking to make an informed decision on my own ballot. I think I've seen Becerra on lists of anti-trans Dems. Is the community rallying behind him to oust Newsom? Or are they withholding on him out of protest?

"Asking to make an informed decision." Doesn't even know what Newsom has served two terms and so is term-limited. Nor that the California primary already happened back at the start of June. 

edit: Bonus, the Nazi piece of shit endorsed Becerra: https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article316068877.html

I think trans people can definitely send a message by withholding their vote:

[benji]

Jeff, this is a Wendy's:


Weirdly respectfully responding to Groypers?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iowa-farmers-union-endorses-democratic-candidate-josh-turek-over-the-republican.1641769/#post-160957822

 User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory dismissal of concerns regarding transphobia

And people are confused as to why trans people might choose to not vote.

Trans people of the UK were told this same thing about voting for labour.

Okay, well, we live in America. Did anti-trans laws get proposed and voted on when democrats had the majority in some house?

Live in the real world. If you don't want to vote, that's on you, but stop with talking about another fucking country like you're doing fuck all.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iowa-farmers-union-endorses-democratic-candidate-josh-turek-over-the-republican.1641769/page-3#post-160988968

 User Banned (Permanent): Dismissive and antagonistic commentary

By pointing out that Opulence in the states protects fascistic transphobic capital. Transphobia remains another issue to distract away from how opulent individuals in this country absolutely ruin any semblance of meaningful voting power.

Looking a Sudanese child dying of cholera in the face and saying you wouldn't vote against USAID cuts because it's more effective to "point out the opulence of transphobic capital." Or maybe the wife of a migrant detained in a camp waiting to be deported to who knows where. Or the young mother kicked from her benefits.

"Why couldn't you do both?" "Well, I had to send a message."

Hahahaha. As much as I'm sure you bloviate about the oppressed you are happy to walk over their corpses on the way to your goal. How many black and brown lives is one trans athlete worth? 10? 100? 1,000? 10,000? Sheesh, and we talk about betrayal! Amerikkkans really are useless.

[benji]

PAY 👏 ARTISTS 👏

Say it with me folks Fuck AI

I've said it before and I'll say it again Fuck Nvidia, fuck AI, and fuck anyone using it. I've kept this AI trash as far away from my kids as possible.

Fuck AI and fuck everyone who uses it That is all.

I've said it before and I'll say it again Fuck AI and fuck everyone using it

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-and-greg-casar-propose-ai-%E2%80%98superintelligence%E2%80%99-ban-with-a-20-year-jail-penalty-same-penalty-as-unlawfully-building-nuclear-weapons.1643026/

It will never happen, but its nice to imagine what could have been.

It will obviously not pass. But it sure would be awesome if we lived in a world where it could.

Butlerian Jihad, here we go.

Because it obviously has zero chance of happening, hopefully at least the conversation of consequence is enough to make these tech demagogues sweat a little bit; a warning shot that regulation and retaliation is coming.

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/boston-globe-greenfield-lesbian-bar-last-ditch-faces-mask-rule-backlash.1642870/

I think you can be disappointed and also give a lot more grace to the homeless owner, though. I don't read it as a hit piece on queer people as much as an example of a very specific kind of toxic dynamic that pops up in leftist, queer spaces

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

There's a he/him lesbian flag?! 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

 User Banned (Permanent): Dismissive and antagonistic commentary

By pointing out that Opulence in the states protects fascistic transphobic capital. Transphobia remains another issue to distract away from how opulent individuals in this country absolutely ruin any semblance of meaningful voting power.

Looking a Sudanese child dying of cholera in the face and saying you wouldn't vote against USAID cuts because it's more effective to "point out the opulence of transphobic capital." Or maybe the wife of a migrant detained in a camp waiting to be deported to who knows where. Or the young mother kicked from her benefits.

"Why couldn't you do both?" "Well, I had to send a message."

Hahahaha. As much as I'm sure you bloviate about the oppressed you are happy to walk over their corpses on the way to your goal. How many black and brown lives is one trans athlete worth? 10? 100? 1,000? 10,000? Sheesh, and we talk about betrayal! Amerikkkans really are useless.

Justified ban. USAID is American soft power forced upon the global south by JFK and absolutely destroyed their local economies. Anyone who votes for USAID are voting for American imperialism.

[Daffy Duck]

I think it's definitely written in an unflattering way to the queer community and ultimately the story's importance to the social fabric is negligible.

But also I think it's endemic of poor praxis both on part of the bar owner and the main rabble-rouser which deserves ridicule as much as it deserves to stand as a point of critique for us moving forward.

She said the word too

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iowa-farmers-union-endorses-democratic-candidate-josh-turek-over-the-republican.1641769/page-3#post-160988968

Essentially trans people need to accept losing rights to have a small chance of gaining them back some day.

A democratic majority will not pass anti-trans laws. A republican majority will if they can.

This was indeed the strategy for LGBT rights for like half a century, ya.

And people are confused as to why trans people might choose to not vote.

A democratic majority will not pass anti-trans laws. A republican majority will if they can.

Trans people of the UK were told this same thing about voting for labour.

This was indeed the strategy for LGBT rights for like half a century, ya.

We deserve better than this. We trans people deserve better than being tossed under the bus. The past is past, time to start standing up for us.

Nah we gotta sacrifice our rights to make sure privileged cis people won't be affected.

Maybe in 100 years more of continuing to be tossed under a bus, we will finally be able to have basic human respect and rights. Such a heart warming thought.

Essentially trans people need to accept losing rights to have a small chance of gaining them back some day.

Brunch and means-testing IS SOO MUCH more important than preventing a trans genocide!

Nah we gotta sacrifice our rights to make sure privileged cis people won't be affected.

Us Queer non-binary people must allow fascistic capitalism rule us all!

Okay, well, we live in America. Did anti-trans laws get proposed and voted on when democrats had the majority in some house?

Live in the real world. If you don't want to vote, that's on you, but stop with talking about another fucking country like you're doing fuck all.

Show me someone in the party with a fucking spine.

Live in the real world when you have students who face deadnaming and other bullshit.

Don't tell trans people how to vote.

Of course you deserve better than this but there is a such thing as coalition building and voting tactfully. My now-husband and I supported Obama in 2008 even after he said marriage should be between a man and a woman and as a result of his win we were able to get married 7 years later. If you're mad that someone believes something, even if it's just to get votes, that's completely your right, and you obviously don't need to support Turek or anyone you don't want to, but there are other factors at play here.

I'm not here to bump strategies with you. I will not be tossed under the bus anymore. Period. The Democrates should change their dumb fuck strategy. Trans Rights should never be used as a bargaining chip, EVER.

What I don't understand is, why can't these politicians just say nothing on trans issues. I certainly would love for them to support trans rights, but why do they need to go this route? To get what; a minuscule amount of votes? I'd much rather they just say nothing at all than have to be like this.

It is a disappointing stance, but it is one that many Dems have taken because public opinion is concerned about fairness in sports.

It's, frankly, a poor excuse and should not be taken seriously. Aside from the fact that trans people are an incredibly small population, the discussion only ever focuses on trans women in sports. People are being told it's an issue that they care about, but I highly doubt that anyone truly cares about "fairness in sports", but if they did I think there are more unfair practices actually going on than the existence of a trans people.

If it was someone's main voting issue, then they're not someone who would vote for a Democrat, nor should Democrats be trying to court them.

Either "Political calculus/real politik" (throwing marginalized people the bus to attempt gaining right wing votes), or they are true believers. Or both. Harris literally had a campaign calling her a radical trans supporter, yet she is absolutely not at all, and she did nothing to step up to protect the horrific calls against trans people. Then she lost.

Of course you deserve better than this but there is a such thing as coalition building and voting tactfully. My now-husband and I supported Obama in 2008 even after he said marriage should be between a man and a woman and as a result of his win we were able to get married 7 years later. If you're mad that someone believes something, even if it's just to get votes, that's completely your right, and you obviously don't need to support Turek or anyone you don't want to, but there are other factors at play here.

I'm happy for you and your husband, but you can miss me with the "tactical voting" horseshit. You cannot AND should not expect people to vote against their morals to be "strategic", even if against Trump himself. That was one of the main lessons to be learned in 2024 with places like Michigan.

Trans rights, or else.

Of course you deserve better than this but there is a such thing as coalition building and voting tactfully. My now-husband and I supported Obama in 2008 even after he said marriage should be between a man and a woman and as a result of his win we were able to get married 7 years later. If you're mad that someone believes something, even if it's just to get votes, that's completely your right, and you obviously don't need to support Turek or anyone you don't want to, but there are other factors at play here.

Pretty gross and unsympathetic response. We should be holding our representatives and candidates to higher standards instead of watching them get played by Republicans.

But that just ends up getting his opponent elected who would most likely try to restrict trans rights while demonizing trans individuals. This would be even worse for transgendered individuals.

Please stop saying transgendered, they weren't trans'd and they weren't transgendered, it sounds like the same nonsense republicans say. Say either trans people or transgender people please.

Would you vote for a democratic presidential nominee that wanted to reverse gay marriage rights and nullify your marriage?

Oh that poor Iowa voter who came in here (Just like you) to tone police us trans people and not so subtly imply democrates losing is or will be Trans peoples faults. Wah Wah for him.

We have been dealing with non stop bullshit from this party, including them pushing Nazi scum like Platner for months. We feel threatened and we should.

The whole reason we're in this shit with trump is because Democrats constantly kowtow to this narrative for random shit Republicans decide to say are issues. Instead of having a spine, they relent and the media eats it up.

People do not care about this red-herring issue around transpeople in sports. They care about putting food on their table and living a quality life. But everything has gone up in price, AI data centers are being built everywhere, and our future is uncertain. "You know what will drive people to my side? Stepping on an incredibly minority population."

People don't care about this "issue". They're being told to care.

this is so true and honestly it feels like the democrats are very behind the curve by engaging with the engineered bigotry machine at all. they have a slam-dunk path to being the common sense party. accepting of all, focused on the needs of the masses, call out this sort of bullshit, ranging from genuinely hateful to just manipulative, for what it is. granted, they'd have to actually want that to be their platform instead of "hey big business and hapless citizens, give us some money"

Are we all forgetting that Trump's administration (and by extension, the current republican senate and house) are trying to eliminate Trans people from existence? They're trying to make gender affirming care illegal or as hard to get as possible. Which is why I think treating democrat politicians as dead to you over the sports issue is a bad miscalculation. There is one political party trying to erase trans people from this country, its Republicans. It's missing the stakes of the moment we're in. We cannot let them get more Supreme Court Justices, the only way to block that is to vote for Democratic Senators, for example.

Yeah, you'd think trans people would be super motivated to vote for Democrats! So it's weird that Democrats are trying so hard to alienate them.

They don't need to affirm the conservative position on trans people to win. There's no reason they can't affirm human rights for all, other than that they feel it's inconvenient or they hold the same bigoted conservative view but are just a lil nicer about it.

We are well aware of all that.

But look at Labour in the UK, voting for the democrats does not guarantee our safety. We want the democrats to actually stand up for us rather than use us in this poor political calculus. Democrats are literally the only party trans people can possibly have, and they don't seem to even want us.

No, the concession is dumb.

Americans are being priced out of sports every season. We are about to not have an MLB season. There are so many ways to frame this "issue" without throwing trans people under the bus.

More of the same blah blah. Trans Women are being targetted by democrate ads and being called men in them. "We don't support men in womens sports" Bullshit. We can't even be given basic respect.

It's not on us to show up for Transphobes it's on them to SHOW UP FOR US. But nah, it's easy for you to toss your trump boogie man out and think you have a point.

We need them to Stop tossing us under the bus and dangling our rights just out of reach.

Obviously we need to beat trump, so why are they not wanting my support and playing transphobic attacks on my community, why????? Why don't they want my support???

It is a disappointing stance, but it is one that many Dems have taken because public opinion is concerned about fairness in sports.

And fuck every single one of those Dems.

I think my favorite part of these discussions, aside from people trying to figure out the most subtle way to paraphrase "enjoy the camps", is the persistent assumption that trans people are children who don't understand how a two party system works. Keep patronizing us, that's a surefire way to win us over.

If it were cis white people being thrown under the bus that shit would be shut down and changed tomorrow.

Any other people and it's always on the table.

Yep, it's like they just expect it, so it's ok. It's disgusting.

"Just trust us, the attack ad was all a lie, they secretly do support you." Fuck that horse shit.

I think my favorite part of these discussions, aside from people trying to figure out the most subtle way to paraphrase "enjoy the camps", is the persistent assumption that trans people are children who don't understand how a two party system works. Keep patronizing us, that's a surefire way to win us over.

What if we take away just a few of your rights? Y'know, just to appease the unappeasable white supremacists and tech bros.

If it were cis white people being thrown under the bus that shit would be shut down and changed tomorrow.

Any other people and it's always on the table.

Hey, gotta get back to brunch.

Fucking bigots.

It's ok for trans people to be single issue voters when said issue is their fucking life and human rights. It's ok to practice harm reduction, but it's also ok to say fuck harm reduction.

It barely feels like harm reduction anymore, it feels like a choice between a slow or quick death.

The perpetual problem with the Dems is that they allow the parameters of the discussion to forever be dictated by the Republicans. Republicans decide to make trans people in sports their new political wedge, and the Democrats hem and haw or outright go along with it. Same with immigration. Same with the military. Same with gay marriage years ago.

If marginalized groups' rights need to be sacrificed to "save democracy"...is it actually a democracy?

I'm curious for those that won't vote for lesser evil, what's your solution ultimately? How do you see states like these changing?

You are just boiling down the issue and framing it wrong. It's not US NOT SUPPORTING THEM

The curent discussion going on here is that us trans people are being targetted by Dems. We have attack ads against us that call us men, they rob our very identity.

The true framing should be, why are the Dems attacking trans people if they want our support? The truth is, these dems who are tossing us away, do not want us, so why not, Why don't THEY SUPPORT US.? THEY DON'T SUPPORT US!!!

I'm curious for those that won't vote for lesser evil, what's your solution ultimately? How do you see states like these changing?

Maybe the solution is cis people actually standing up for trans people instead of talking over them about "the lesser of two evils" and such when both those evils dont want trans people to have a place in our society

There's little to no pushback about the actual transphobia in a lot of these discussions. Just platitudes and condescension. Why isn't the problem the fact that these candidates are risking their success by alienating the trans community and their friends and family?

It barely feels like harm reduction anymore, it feels like a choice between a slow or quick death.

It's not harm reduction, it's got mine.

As long as people are willing to throw somebody else under the bus, they're fine with it because it doesn't impact them.

There's a clear genocide happening in front of them on multiple fronts, but again, they don't give a shit because it's not what's affecting their paycheck directly, and these bigoted candidates know that.

Got mine will unfortunately always win out because that's how the system has been designed.

Even when we are primed to fight back, we're still fighting each other rather than who we're supposed to be fighting against.

Neoliberalism in a nutshell, and we're just so completely fucked right now unless people in power actually grow a spine and say enough is enough.

Understood. Democrats in general are not allies (or even worse like here actively harming) to the trans community. So they are not a solution to what is happening here. My question is - what is in America?

Definetly, I don't like talking about it, but attack ads like these could cause some vulnerable trans people to do awful things to themselves in self loathing, hatred, it feels like no one has our back when that shit plays and it has a dems smiling face next to it, or we hear them proudly call us men.

I don't want this to be a trend, I don't want more of these attack ads. Every little thing they lob at us, everything we take, we hurt, we feel it.

The solution is for them to stop running bigot ads against us, and stop talking shit about us. so I think people should pressure them on their bigoted stances in an attempt to get them to change them. I don't care how hard that is.

The thing I find is that people DO care about the trans folk in sports narrative. Even folks I'd consider fairly progressive on like every other issue get really hung up on trans athletes. It's one of those weird issues that for some reason I hear parroted on both the right and the left at nearly the same frequency. Even gay and bisexual people I know. Its insidious how quickly and strongly that took hold of so many people.

It barely feels like harm reduction anymore, it feels like a choice between a slow or quick death.

It's a choice of being screwed or double screwed.

Democrats aren't going to get the bigot vote, so don't fucking chase it.

Explain why trans rights are human rights, or shut the fuck up. Joining the bigotry won't stop you from being cast as part of the "trans agenda" but you can damn well sure make a difference for a vulnerable minority.

Democrats should never choose harm, but here we are.

Dems aren't "hashing" things out regarding trans people. The party has heavily swayed more transpobic over the last 5, and especially 2 years. It's super easy to see how it is similar if not nearly the exact same path Labour took in the UK, to get the point they are at now.

For the people defending the trans sports stances because Democrats are better than Republicans on average, I have a genuine question:

Which minority would cross a line for you if the Democrats threw them under the bus? If they said Muslims shouldn't participate in sports with Christians, would you say "Okay, we can't vote for this guy" even if that view was very popular? African Americans? Why that line and not this one?

 

Because it doesn't affect them. Trans people are a small minority, so a lot of folks don't have direct points of contact with the issue(s). People are too stupid to care about anything that doesn't directly affect their spineless, little existences.

At what point do we just say "vote for the less evil one" is gaslighting other users?

It's an objectively better viewpoint if you're willing to just keep throwing people into a water tank of piranhas. And as they are devoured, you just scream at them "hey at least xxx isn't happening like pubs would do!"

It may be true, it may be logical, and it may even be the best way forward. But the audacity to continue telling marginalized groups they're letting the greater evil win? Either choice leads to further rights and privileges taken away that we take for granted, but we are more than willing to sacrifice them as long as it doesn't affect ours.

At the very least, please be silent instead of preaching. I understand the world is fucked up, but beating them down for it as they are part of the problem is just as dehumanizing as the politicians getting a free pass to say "no boys in girls' sports"

Please. I am not usually a serious poster here, but this is getting ridiculous.

Greatly appreciate this.

It's an impossible choice but what do voters in Iowa do at this point ? You either vote or you don't.

Both choices have serious implications for the future.

Voters in Iowa should be doing every last thing to push Turek to stop being transphobic.

Then yell at the politician to change and not them for a start.

That's the problem though. You get to Election Day and the stance isn't changing.

What do you do as a voter?

I can't change what any voter does individually. It's their choice. Trans people (and those in close proximity of trans people) choosing not to vote for a transphobe is their fair choice to do. Candidates shouldn't just expect votes because they are the lesser evil, but still very much evil.

It is a disappointing stance, but

are you kidding me

I'd like to point out a number of dem candidates this election didn't present transphobic stances until *after* they won their primaries, so we didn't even get a chance to filter them out! It's a no win situation for trans folks

Yeah this too. Talarico either went mask off, or decided to wait to throw trans people under the bus as a desperate attempt to snatch votes from Fox News viewers after he already got trans people to vote him in the primary.

I fully understand trans people, and Muslim people, and people condemning the genocide in Gaza and all the other people who have legit reasons against voting for the lesser evil.

I understand it.

But fuck sake I don't want to hear none of you all when Trump invades Canada or Greenland, when the US doesn't act on its security guarantees for the Baltics and Poland, when they collude with Russia, when they bomb more children in Iran, about stopping USAID, and the millions and millions of people who suffer worldwide as long as the orange fuck has unchecked power, and who never got any vote on this. Hey you tried. You don't like it either, but this is Merica.

Why is it that Palestinians and Muslim people and trans people can't also criticize the people actually ruining things in the country. Both can be and are done. I don't understand how your first and second paragraph relate at all.

I really do not think the Democratic party is in lockstep on trans rights, for better or worse. They aren't a death cult obsessed with the social hierarchy like Republicans are.

You can criticize, and you should, loudly, but you also have power to stop the kakistocratic end of civilization, which the rest of the world doesn't.

The weight of the entire world doesn't rest on the shoulders of the most marginalized groups.

Exactly. Which means you vote for them and once they win you give em hell.

You'll find that their ears close very quickly once they already are in.

So regardless of doing that method, the trans community is ignored. Again.

Well worse than ignored.

Ideally, you do both. But if they cannot even feign support for you, why should they even vote for you?

Again, stop putting weight on the shoulders of the 1%. They're just trying to live.

UK trans people were told they would be able to change the minds of Labour politicians after the election....then they tripled down on being anti-trans.

All I'm gonna say is don't be shocked when Dems or at least some Dems join republicans in clamping down on trans rights and then do worse. Harm reduction and voting for the lesser of two evils doesn't really work out.

You can't force anyone to vote or show up in elections which you have been given the choice on whether or not you want to participate.

That said, if you aren't actively trying to get Trump out of power given all the damage he has done within your country and outside of it then I really dunno how you expect change to happen. Trump's first win allowed him to stack the supreme court and cause a generation of harm that cant be undone bar Americans straight up ignoring the laws and rules of the land.

Someone is going to win and we have seen that that winner over his 2 terms had the power to through appointments or direct action:

1) kidnap a foreign president
2) gut and destroy essential government services
3) get Roe vs Wade overturned
4) mobilize ICE as an army and kill domestic citizens
5) deport american citizens with no recourse
6) bully univerisities
7) start an illegal war and target civillian infrastructure
8) start a global trade war
9) Strip significant protections from the voting rights bill

This isnt even close to the full list. In the end it is the right of each American citizen to decide if they are voting. But holy fuck, even my most nihilistic or hate filled moral positions would not stop me from looking to remove that lunacy.

The weight of the entire world doesn't rest on the shoulders of the most marginalized groups.

Right, it rests on the shoulders of everyone with voting power.

There's like 90 million+ people that never vote ever, and pay no attention to politics while they live their little isolated bubble. Those are the non voters that truly are the issue, if you want to mainly focus on non-voters. Not people of the absolute most marginalized groups that don't want to vote for people that are against them

Think how far rights have progressed, even under Governments you wouldn't think would stand for it, yeah it's seeing some blowback for sure but if you can't let perfection being the enemy of good. I know but, it's impossible to answer, we throw people under the bus every election, however if Trump never got into power twice, things would better.

The thing is though...if you believe that let's say some Palestinians sitting out in 2024 caused Trump to win...my first thought doesn't go to putting it on them, but on the democrats aiding and supporting Israel. If Newsom, Harris, Buttigieg, or someone like that is the candidate in 2028...and loses, it's not going to be because of trans people, or Palestinian people. Push those candidates NOW, before the election happens, to be better. Instead of prioritizing to try changing them after.

Be that as it may, they are part of the 90 million+ people that didn't vote. Which again, I totally understand, and you do you. It's valid not to vote for people who are against you. Just when the US invades Canada, don't say 'it wasn't me', because then it was you.

(I know trans people are a tiny group, much like the people that didn't vote for Kamala because of Israel, and so it's never just one or the other. But tiny groups add up)

Im part of an extremely small group in the US and at this point I feel like if people want to ride the garbage train totally off the rails and set it ablaze, screw it.

TERF island is one thing, what evidence is there that national Democrats would introduce and vote for anti trans legislation when in control of Congress?

The slowly building up of more and more dems the past few years going anti-trans in sports, bathroom laws, etc. It wasn't always TERF island to that extreme. It got to where things now over time.

Kinda wild thinking back, Theresa May the, Tory PM was pro self ID legislation etc. and then the right wing media monster found a toxic wedge and it hasn't let up. It's like they got Brexit and thus there wasn't a boogey man, the EU previously so they made a new one and boats came along too, that's their one two to club the UK public with to make them vote right wing.

Yeah...they played the tale as old as time playbook of pinning blame of the state being so bad because of the smallest percentage groups. Unfortunately it has ended up working too many times.

Good talk. Had no idea Labour came to power by blaming trans people for the Tories poor governance and Reform's rise comes from blaming genocidal Labour for being pro-trans.

[benji]

I think it's definitely written in an unflattering way to the queer community and ultimately the story's importance to the social fabric is negligible.

But also I think it's endemic of poor praxis both on part of the bar owner and the main rabble-rouser which deserves ridicule as much as it deserves to stand as a point of critique for us moving forward.

I so desperately need someone to ask her how dialectical materialism would have solved this conflict. (Also interesting that she denigrates a marginalized person fighting for their basic human rights as a "rabble rouser" and labels a queer person's revolutionary struggle as deserving of ridicule.)

Lenin would have had the maskers executed and the bar menu changed to cater to chuds. (Just like Jon Tapper.)

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nazi-piece-of-shit-gavin-newsom-vetoes-yet-another-pro-trans-bill.1643011/

So, asking to make an informed decision on my own ballot. I think I've seen Becerra on lists of anti-trans Dems. Is the community rallying behind him to oust Newsom? Or are they withholding on him out of protest?

"Asking to make an informed decision." Doesn't even know what Newsom has served two terms and so is term-limited. Nor that the California primary already happened back at the start of June. 

Newsom is out no matter what. Term limit. Bacerra won the Democratic primary so it's him or a Republican in November.

I understand that. I'm assuming the Republican is going to be dead in the water so I was curious if there was anything done to push back against Bacerra so he won't do the same thing Newsom's doing now.

Also, posts from conservative Twitter:

Newsom cannot win the presidential primary in a year's time. Long-term it'd guarantee dystopia.

[Daffy Duck]

I really wish people would use their heads some times and not just bow to pressure put on them by the type of garbage that are clearly just on a power trip. Sucks for someone trying to do good to be made homeless and buried in debt all because of a few selfish assholes.

That thread is just too good. I wonder how personally attacked transEra feels reading it with posts like that

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

yeah if the gop keeps winning? Sheeeesh! Enjoy the camps!

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/boston-globe-greenfield-lesbian-bar-last-ditch-faces-mask-rule-backlash.1642870/

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nazi-piece-of-shit-gavin-newsom-vetoes-yet-another-pro-trans-bill.1643011/

That's Nazi Piece of Shit and Future President Gavn Newsom vetos yet another pro trans bill.

They can’t use Gavin Newscum without sounding Trumpish. Gavin Newcisscum? Gavin Ewwsom?

Gavin Naziscum.

[Boredfrom]

I'm sorry, is it OK to imply that Canada is a puppet of a fascist american regime?

When our own government is defending the invasion of Iran and handaving threats of "annihilation" as "language of war"? Yeah. Of course.

What Shoot is saying is that you can't bitch about Trump threatening to invade us (and yell at Americans for not taking it seriously), then shrug your shoulders when Carney defends the invasion of Iran. It shows that you don't care at all about the US bombing brown people, you only care when you're on the receiving end of the threats.

Note, Chrétien told Bush to kick rocks about Iraq. Carney didn't need to defend this shit, at all. He does, not because he's afraid of Trump (we've seen many times that he's very much not), but because he agrees. No Canadian should be defending him for this.

...you very much can. Are you serious Morrigan? The heck does it mean that we can't bitch about being talked about being invaded and a clearly insane person going "Maybe i'll do a ground invasion, would that be not funny? Teehee", just because Carney is a fucking hypocrite and is not willing to condemn the US war crimes?

If you are not also willing to condemn Carney? Then yes, you are a hypocrite. How is this hard to understand?

Maybe read the full post again, because otherwise I don't know why you're outraged.

Being okay with calling out Carney as a jackass just playing the west "bestof tape" about "the evils or Iran and how attacking them is justificed" and not willing to actually think, because he is a imbecile stuck on what west sold about Iran for 40+ years is one thing (or the idea that he is also a blood hungry monster, which is a possibility if we truly want to go there).
Saying that we cannot talk/bitch and be angry about the country doing war crimes, talking about DOING WAR CRIMES ON US? That is another thing entirely. That goes beyond the pale, to say that because our government are hypocrites that we should sit down, shut up, and take whatever happens. CHRIST.

Edit : I think i'm going to bow out, i can feel like i'm getting a more and more assholish tone in this thread, and i wont contribute anything that would help anyone.

Bye, bye! Global North SCUM!

Fucking Morrigan.  

Two faced cunt just like shocking Alberto.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

yeah if the gop keeps winning? Sheeeesh! Enjoy the camps!

You're in the middle of breaking rocks in the field of Camp Detransition and look down at the dead body of your now former bunkmate.

"Don't worry, girl! At least we didn't vote for Democrats!"

[Jansen]

From Constructive 

I would like to know why it's so hard to just get a Trump tag for off topic.



I just want to auto ignore everything Trump please.





PLEASE.

I report every single thread about trump as us politics (sorry mods for the report spam lol), which should result in it at least being moved to the politics subforum, and ideally tagged USA, because that's what it is. I have now done this so much I have learnt there is a minimum wait time between reporting posts because there are often multiple in the latest page :-)



Anyway please do that same.

I will say: do people get notified that their threads are being moved or otherwise altered by a moderator?



Because it's often the same people over and over again. Either they don't notice the moves, or they do and are intentionally ignoring the message.

[benji]

Kind of gross to target other posters like that.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/boston-globe-greenfield-lesbian-bar-last-ditch-faces-mask-rule-backlash.1642870/page-3

I read this whole thread thinking "I can't be the only one that thinks this Noire person isn't real?"

There's no way they're real, right?

Edit:

Can someone more knowledgeable than me please explain the context in which a person identifying as He/Him could claim to be a lesbian. =/

homie doesn’t know he’s a banned man walking   look at this asshole, not knowing how males can be lesbians (WLW) too

This sort of question is so beautiful because there isn't any sort of rational explanation. You just have to accept it because you have to keep affirming and support anyone who identifies as LGBT. The whole thing has become just vibes, not logic

"I'm a male lesbian asexual slut and if you question that you're genociding me"

[DavidCroquet]

Do the reading. Learn the theory. Praxis the dialectic.

https://taimi.com/wiki/hehim-lesbian-what-is-it-what-does-it-mean/

[HaughtyFrank]

Do the reading. Learn the theory. Praxis the dialectic.

https://taimi.com/wiki/hehim-lesbian-what-is-it-what-does-it-mean/

Of course there's a flag for he/him lesbians 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

we're all lesbians I guess

[jimmys13]

Finally as a white he/him who likes women I can be oppressed 

[Ethan]

People can go by he/him lesbian exclusively or combine the term with others. It is important to note that neopronoun lesbians, she/her gays, they/them lesbians, and they/them gay individuals also exist. Their experience and terminology use is valid and should not be questioned by cisgender heteronormative society in any form.

In - Any - Form

So please delete your posts.

[Taco Bell Tower]

That tl;dr lol benji post better summon Blueballs 

[Taco Bell Tower]

Finally as a white he/him who likes women I can be oppressed 

I was gonna say plz ban this white straight he/him but he's a lesbian so all good 

[Snoopy]

Only ree incels can be lesbians now. No women allowed!