Kyuuji wrote:Odd isn't it that the commendations (and I did say they were commendations in my original post fwiw) are blue, pink and white, and go from being horizontal bars with vertical colour bands to pure horizontal bands. From an art team that is clearly aware of what the trans flag looks like because they put a large one on Gwen's bedroom wall.
The real question is why you came into this thread – a thread of trans joy about representation people like in media during trans awareness week – and made it your specific mission to make all of your posts about trying to disprove that Gwen is trans coded over this one nitpick. It's really fucking weird.
But sure, let's remove the fact that these commendations in one scene randomly change form into horizontal bands that resemble a trans flag on the uniform of the father whose daughter flies the trans flag on her bedroom wall (and again, let's not fuck around, there aren't many cis allies out there with big ass trans flags hanging on their walls), and there would still be a bunch of breadcrumbs leading to her being trans coded. https://www.resetera.com/threads/favorite-trans-characters-in-media-trans-awareness-week.786111/post-115083624
Now you are making me feel bad for DragonSJG. The dude is clueless about how hard TransRE is going to fuck him up.
Depriving trans joy is practically genocide: Real genocide like the jew stuff happening over there.
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It's a matter of time now until the permanent ban.
Maybe these trans folkx should stop doing drugs.
(11-18-2023, 03:03 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Now you are making me feel bad for DragonSJG. The dude is clueless about how hard TransRE is going to fuck him up.
Going by his threads guy is either very young or maybe autistic. What they don't understand is that he actually cares a out whether the character is canonically trans, because he actually cares about canon and shit
(11-18-2023, 03:03 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: It's a matter of time now until the permanent ban.
Yep, his already been threadbanned.
Quote:User Threadbanned (Permanent; Pending Further Action): Dismissive commentary around trans representation across a series of posts; derailing a sensitive thread
I'm betting a two week ban, that is quietly turned into a perm
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(11-18-2023, 03:01 AM)HaughtyFrank wrote: Kyuuji wrote:The real question is why you came into this thread – a thread of trans joy about representation people like in media during trans awareness week – and made it your specific mission to make all of your posts about trying to disprove that Gwen is trans coded over this one nitpick. It's really fucking weird. https://www.resetera.com/threads/favorite-trans-characters-in-media-trans-awareness-week.786111/post-115083624 I said it before in relation to Nepenthe and Neoxon's demands of Black Excellence I believe but it also fits here. Give us the good trans representation that exists, that's what this thread is for. Instead you're lashing out and trying to force something to fit for moronic reasons while erasing all that actually exists by redirecting the focus on the worst "potential" examples.
It's not just embarrassing, it's telling. You do so love that accusation towards others after all.
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CDPR: Treats trans people like everyone else in the world, gives a trans woman her own side quest, puts a trans fan in the game, etc.
"That's really how they're hiding their hatred."
"They're exploiting and objectifying us."
"Even the missions not about us are targeted towards us."
"No ill will against her but she's being used as a prop."
Hogfart's Legaycy: Trans character, character creator, etc.
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Spider-Gwen: Nothing, but you can read a bunch of stuff as evidence if you deliberately want to.
"STOP TRYING TO TAKE THIS AWAY FROM US CAN'T WE HAVE JUST ONE THING"
"WHY WOULD THEY PUT ANY OF THESE COLORS IN THERE IF IT WASN'T IMPORTANT"
"WHY WOULD SHE ASK THIS QUESTION IF NOT TRANS PRIDE"
"SHE DOESN'T GET ALONG WITH HER DAD JUST LIKE TRANS WOMEN"
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Embiid, post: 115007100, member: 92190 wrote:The PL quest was a take on our fawning over celebrities and everything they do as a sort of metaphor with your relationship with Johnny. I dunno how that quest was transphobic af…that's like a wild stretch.
ClickyCal', post: 115013127, member: 7351 wrote:The PL quest is maybe their most egregious thing yet with being both transphobic and drag-phobic. They could literally do anything other than that. You really shouldn't be talking down to trans people who are hurt or offended by transphobia in the game.
Melody Shreds, post: 115047687, member: 2700 wrote:If it's worth anything it didn't read that way to me, but clearly this is a topic we can't discuss here so i will refrain from further mention.
Dissent among the ranks?
(11-18-2023, 03:03 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Now you are making me feel bad for DragonSJG. The dude is clueless about how hard TransRE is going to fuck him up. Oh, his irl twin is fucked too
(11-17-2023, 08:42 PM)ClothedMac wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/splatoon-3%E2%80%99s-new-special-ability-splattercolor-screen-might-make-the-game-worse-for-colorblind-players-due-to-it-forcing-grayscale-on-foes.786279/
neoxon wrote:I guess this shouldn't surprise me considering how little they care about accessibility. I want more people to be able to enjoy Splatoon, not fewer.
Quote:I'm not aware of any form of colorblindness that effects readability of grayscale images.
Quote:why would this make it worse for colourblind players in specific
Quote:as being color blind myself(not fully), I feel like this should seemingly just essentially make everyone fully colorblind
neoxon wrote:My concern comes from how the grayscale would impact certain colors in the game. Normally it'd be a lighter & darker shade of gray, which might be fine. But if they end up being too close or if it interacts weirdly with the colorblind settings available, that's where the nightmare scenarios could come up.
neoxon wrote:My worry is that if the colors are too close, the two shades of gray may not be easily set apart for some.
Quote:This sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining. Are you even colorblind yourself? If not, what evidence do you have that this might be an issue?
Quote:Thread locked at request of op

How many vaguely threatening DM's did he send to Miyamoto concerning this nightmare scenario?
If neoxon put as much effort into finding a job as he does to trying to manufacture bullshit controversy...he still wouldn't have a job, but at least he would have wasted far less time.
(11-17-2023, 09:04 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote: (11-17-2023, 08:42 PM)ClothedMac wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/splatoon-3%E2%80%99s-new-special-ability-splattercolor-screen-might-make-the-game-worse-for-colorblind-players-due-to-it-forcing-grayscale-on-foes.786279/
Quote:Sources: Splatoon NA & ProChara (Twitter)
WHY DOES HE KEEP DOING THIS???
I swear to god some Professor once told him to source his material and his autistic brain now thinks he needs to do it everywhere.
All fucking idiots do this when they're trying to act like they know what they're talking about. It's why they all use plenty of jargon too.
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(11-17-2023, 09:54 PM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/gbiz-playstation-portal-has-sold-out-two-days-after-launch-us-uk.786306/#post-115065084
Quote:This could genuinely be a problem for Switch 2. Just think about it, big AAA game comes out, let's say Far Cry 7. You *could* play it on the Switch 2, where portable and docked it will likely run at sub-Series S settings, 30fps, etc. - while the PS5 + Portal combo gets you much higher fidelity across both modes. On top of that, being a streaming tablet helps with things like battery life or ergonomics, which are likely to be an issue with Switch 2.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gbiz-playstation-portal-has-sold-out-two-days-after-launch-us-uk.786306/page-3#post-115068621
Quote:Absolutely loving my Portal so far. Will love it even more when the Pulse Explores show up. Then even more when Sony enables the ability for it to stream from the cloud
I keep saying it, the Portal is gonna replace the DualSense Edge as the best selling accessory by dollar on Circana for 2024
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gbiz-playstation-portal-has-sold-out-two-days-after-launch-us-uk.786306/page-3#post-115069965
Quote:Ignore Lan_war post. It's a joke post, Doomslug
A Ree Sony Ponies thread
I mean, Nintendo fans get plenty of stick, and deservedly so, but is there anything worse than a hardcore Sony Pony? Maybe the Apple idiots who seem content to shell out thousands every year for slight upgrades to their already outdated technology?
(11-17-2023, 10:19 PM)benji wrote: haha suck it colorblind bire users, this is no place for accessibility:
![[Image: CR0U89t.png]](https://i.imgur.com/CR0U89t.png)
I don't see the difference. What am I supposed to be seeing here?
I'm more of a Ravenclaw Benji.
or Slytherin.
(11-18-2023, 05:12 AM)Potato wrote: (11-17-2023, 08:42 PM)ClothedMac wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/splatoon-3%E2%80%99s-new-special-ability-splattercolor-screen-might-make-the-game-worse-for-colorblind-players-due-to-it-forcing-grayscale-on-foes.786279/
neoxon wrote:I guess this shouldn't surprise me considering how little they care about accessibility. I want more people to be able to enjoy Splatoon, not fewer.
Quote:I'm not aware of any form of colorblindness that effects readability of grayscale images.
Quote:why would this make it worse for colourblind players in specific
Quote:as being color blind myself(not fully), I feel like this should seemingly just essentially make everyone fully colorblind
neoxon wrote:My concern comes from how the grayscale would impact certain colors in the game. Normally it'd be a lighter & darker shade of gray, which might be fine. But if they end up being too close or if it interacts weirdly with the colorblind settings available, that's where the nightmare scenarios could come up.
neoxon wrote:My worry is that if the colors are too close, the two shades of gray may not be easily set apart for some.
Quote:This sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining. Are you even colorblind yourself? If not, what evidence do you have that this might be an issue?
Quote:Thread locked at request of op

How many vaguely threatening DM's did he send to Miyamoto concerning this nightmare scenario?
If neoxon put as much effort into finding a job as he does to trying to manufacture bullshit controversy...he still wouldn't have a job, but at least he would have wasted far less time.
He supposedly has a job
(11-18-2023, 12:08 AM)ClothedMac wrote: Is Era gonna defend this or fuck Samoans and fa'afafine, the OG non-binary.
![[Image: large_next-goal-wins-movie-poster-2023.jpeg]](https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/next-goal-wins-2023/large_next-goal-wins-movie-poster-2023.jpeg)
Nah, fuck that bitch for playing on a men's team. Trans traitor.
(11-17-2023, 11:39 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: (11-17-2023, 10:57 PM)Boredfrom wrote: kaleidoscopium dateline='[url=tel:1700258978' wrote: 1700258978[/url]']
The Transwoman’s Burden.
Oh they're back? Reset the countdown until thegummybear is banned again. 
Pretty sure they're banned again. I didn't even have time to catch up on this thread.
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(11-18-2023, 05:35 AM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: (11-18-2023, 05:12 AM)Potato wrote: (11-17-2023, 08:42 PM)ClothedMac wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/splatoon-3%E2%80%99s-new-special-ability-splattercolor-screen-might-make-the-game-worse-for-colorblind-players-due-to-it-forcing-grayscale-on-foes.786279/

How many vaguely threatening DM's did he send to Miyamoto concerning this nightmare scenario?
If neoxon put as much effort into finding a job as he does to trying to manufacture bullshit controversy...he still wouldn't have a job, but at least he would have wasted far less time.
He supposedly has a job 
Despite what neoxon says to his parents, this  is not a job...
(11-18-2023, 05:51 AM)Potato wrote: (11-17-2023, 11:39 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: (11-17-2023, 10:57 PM)Boredfrom wrote: The Transwoman’s Burden.
Oh they're back? Reset the countdown until thegummybear is banned again. 
Pretty sure they're banned again. I didn't even have time to catch up on this thread.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/doctor-who-60th-anniversary-specials-ot-across-the-whoniverse.786138/page-4
Quote: User Banned (2 weeks): thread derailment / antagonizing other members over a series of post, previously actioned for the same behavior
TheGummyBear wrote:The Unsent wrote:Ok, I have nothing else to say. I'd watch Doctor Who with the new series from Christmas day. Im in agreement, but come on. I agree with what you say, but time to take a day friend?
Like, I'm the know trouble maker on this subject. The admins likely want this month out of the way because of me.
And I'm telling you to take it easy.
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Melody Shreds wrote:Quote:What's the general feeling in the trans community on Kuina from Alice in Borderland? I recently binged the show and found her backstory very effective - my only issue was that she's played by a cis woman (although Aya Asahina was very good).
I find Cis ppl voicing trans characters to be unfortunate enough (see my avatar) but in live action I find it to be purely despicable to deprive trans actors of roles IMO. Melody Shreds wrote:Quote:I thought Testament was non binary and not trans?
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. To elaborate yes while there are some non-binary folks who don't identify as trans, many in fact do! all the Enbies I'm friends with consider themselves transgender!
and in Testiment's case, their complete disregard of everything gender makes them trans enby in my eyes, it also helps that their english VA is a trans woman as well. Melody Shreds wrote:fat4all wrote:dont think there's ever been a confirmation of trans like bridget
non-binary tho, yeah 100% I just find them very trans-enby coded is all, i guess that's partly due to their trans va though. Quote:On a related topic/tipI just discovered LillySimpson who looks at trans representation in media. Her King of the Hill episode is great.
Melody Shreds wrote:The only issue i have with this is I'm just personally so tired of films that depict trans people always showing our impossibly hard, brutal lives. like yes its realistic but its done every damn time it's borderline torture porn for me at this point. It'd be nice to see a movie with a trans woman living a happy life not dealing with constant struggle or bigotry.
that said i may check that out just to have another trans thing to watch lol. Quote:This is always a little complicated for me because I hate the idea of being trans as a spoiler or a twist or what have you... But also, these were immediately my answers as well, and the fact that these characters being trans wasn't something I was aware of before experiencing the stories made the realization so much more impactful to me…
The second character in particular… watching that play out is probably the most heartwrenching yet empowering and liberating representation of trans euphoria I've encountered in media.
Melody Shreds wrote:The reality of the situation is there are a lot of trans actors out there looking for roles, and they often get passed up for cis actors even for trans characters because they happen to be trans. the only real exception lately is trans actors who pass, which is nice and all but they def don't represent most of us.
At least we're past Hollywood and Indie films casting men as trans woman FUCK that was an uncomfortable time, and it was like nearly every goddamn movie with a trans character too, unless they wanted to do ewww she has a dick gag, then they always cast the trans woman with the most attractive cis woman they can find for effect which honestly has put me off a LOT of classic movies. that gag is not just gross and bigoted, but it was so overplayed too. Melody Shreds wrote:Quote:Preach, Melody. Revisiting Ace Ventura: Pet Detective nowadays in particular was an... experience.
I went from loving that film to being completely unable to finish it, the transphobia is so central to the plot you cannot ignore it if you tried. Melody Shreds wrote:Quote:It is WILD that the crux of the entire movie boils down to 'this woman is transgender, thus we should humiliate and belittle her in front of dozens of people' and then the movie just ends with everyone in triumph. Truly disgusting portrayal and particularly writing.
Yes, it's a disgrace and it's not like it was Jim Carry's only problematic movie, he had a long line of films with bigoted content in the 90's and early 00's that are extremely hard to go back to do to various reasons. Quote:Was struggling to think of one, then I remembered how much the Rockos Modern Life special with Rachel Bighead was when I first saw it 
Was so good it gave me the courage to come out to my own Mom, which unfortunately did not go as good lol (it's fine tho we're mostly chill now outside a few small moments).
Quote:This absolutely doesn't count, but I still want to believe the queer baiting they did for Rivet and Kit from the recent R&C game.
Hate that I'm struggling to think of actual representation.
TheGummyBear wrote:It sucks that a lot of the better trans characters that I can think of, particularly within genre fiction, are trans via subtext than actual representation. Even beloved characters like Nimona, who is undeniably a character rooted deep in trans identity, are still shown more through subtext than actual representation.
We simply aren't represented very well, and when given the focus its always about the miserable sides of trans identity than the positives.
But there are really fun options when we include such characters, like Rivet and Kit. Melody Shreds wrote:And to add to your point, when we do get represented its almost always focused on our pain and suffering to an uncomfortable extent. Quote:Trying to think about this has made me realize I haven't seen or played much stuff with trans characters in it and I'm not sure if that says more about the entertainment industry or myself...
Melody Shreds wrote:Don't worry it's not you.
Worth mentioning my avatar is a trans character from a Japanese fighting game. if a company like Arcsys can eventually handle this shit well, western and supposedly "more" progressive studios really gotta get their shit together. Kyuuji wrote:Jules from Euphoria (two short clips that lead into each other, the end of which speaks to me a lot).
Jules means a massive amount to me tbh. The special episode that was co-written by Hunter Schafer is one of my favourite trans-related pieces of fiction ever, likely in part because it's imbued heavily with Hunter's own thoughts. Like where it's her exploring her transness and her relationship to femininity and how she's allowed it to be sculpted around men's views of attractiveness. The fear that runs through you when cis women analyse you.
This is without mentioning her backstory in S01E04 with the way trans children are treated and abused. Also in how dysphoria manifests – "Jules hated her life. She didn't have a bad life, but when you hate your mind and you hate your body is makes it hard to appreciate the rest". These are really powerful and important things to have in a mainstream show, particularly because it's portrayed by an actual trans woman.
The whole fact her transness is evident but not a focus. The way it's not centred on cis trauma around her identity or the pain of others due to it, and deals with the difficulties we face while simultaneously showing us as three-dimensional humans with love, aspirations and just generally *living*. heathen earth wrote:The fact that the vast majority of these are from cartoons or comic books makes me feel a certain way. Quote:Whiterose from Mr Robot. As a Chinese trans woman, I would be like her if I couldn't transition, got old and bitter and hate humanity, and insanely powerful and manipulative.
Fortunately I avoided that. But I still love her 
Quote:TheGummyBear wrote:Know what, I only watched coronation Street as a kid with my nan. And reading through the Wikipedia, I had absolutely no clue she was a trans character.
So I really have to champion this one too, because Hayley was a cultural icon for a very long time here in the UK.
Even her coat is iconic here. Real shame they killed her off, seems a bit of an extreme way to let go of the character.
Kind of remarkable how we had this trans character, in this country of all places, take such a huge place on our screens for such a long time. I'm pretty sure she helped humanise trans people (if that's the correct way to frame it, if not, my apologies) in the eyes of the public and it's a real shame that a middle aged, out trans character like that, who is treated with sensitivity and respect, doesn't exist still. As far as I'm aware. I'm well out of touch with Hollyoaks and the other soaps these days.
As you say, it'd be quite easy to be unaware of her being trans, due to the fact storylines - for the most part - never alluded to it, as she was treated just another main character on the street after her reveal story was over. Quote:Quote:J.J. Macfield from The Missing: J.J. Macfield and the Island of Memories.
I agree with everyone saying we need more trans representation that's not focused on our trauma. This isn't that. The game is basically trans trauma: the interactive experience. But it's very well done, it ultimately has an optimistic message, and I played it at the right time where I needed it. A good friend recommended I play this at the period in my life where I was going through the mental health crisis that is accepting my trans identity and struggling with what it meant for my future. There are scenes in this that resonated so hard I'll not only never forget them, I'll never forget where I was when playing my Switch and seeing the scenes. I love this game. I wish it wasn't so under the radar.
came here to shout this game out. I played it when I was still in the closet and it definitely moved the needle closer to cracking my egg.
Quote:"This is a story about regeneration" hits so hard at just the right moment it made me burst into tears. I tried to get everyone I knew to play this back in 2018 and nobody did.
Quote:Quote:Also, Leo in Tekken. Seems the devs are leaning on them being non-binary.
Now if the devs weren't deathly allergic to pronouns, it'd be even better.
Vonocourt wrote:Just gonna give a shout-out to Charlene McGowan, who my roommate can't stop gushing about. meowdi gras wrote:I haven't yet encountered a fictional trans character in media to whom I could really relate, so I'm disappointed to say that I don't think I can name any.
That said, I probably don't consume nearly as much media as most people here, so that's likely a reason why, as well. Quote:A newer entry, but I really liked Laurel (Nicole Maines) from Bit (2019)
The movie is on Tubi btw if anyone wants to check it out.
'Bout a girl who falls in with an all girl gang of vampires.
Quote:My favorites have already been mentioned, so I'll highlight someone from a game I recently played. Liz from Butterfly Soup 1 + 2
She's one of the leaders of an all-female baseball team.
Btw Butterfly Soup is a heartfelt vn with stellar representation for wlw relationships and the Asian American immigrant experience. The first VN is fluffier and sillier and is more focused on telling a relationship story with little flavorings of the representation here and there, whereas the sequel delves into it a lot more and is a little more serious that the first one but no less heartfelt.
Another character comes out later in 2 as non-binary (or at least starts using they/them), Min-seo.
TheEchosOfTheCyborg wrote:Since she's one of my favourite Transformers, Arcee is up there, especially after writers other than Simon Furman got to write her in the IDW books (dear lilith those books were so filled with gay, bi, NB and trans characters, it still ticks me off they cancelled the IDW stuff). I really hope the shows and films finally acknowledge her as a trans lesbian and bring in her long time girlfriend Aileron. Vonocourt wrote:Quote:Oh yeah, and if she's indeed trans, Gwen Stacy is all the way up there, too.
So all that iconography, subtext and allegory, the many trans people who found emotional connection to her story and accepted her, don't mean anything unless she announces in the next movie " I was assigned male at birth." etiira wrote:Yup, it's wild when folks read into characters being cis way more (often with less evidence backing them up) and aren't questioned for it.
Anyways, as a lifelong Metroid fan, Samus is my fav. She's a doomed, emotionally stunted, middle-aged cop, but she's still my favorite. Trans folks deserve loser rep too! Vonocourt wrote:Quote:That's not what I meant. The thread is specifically about trans characters and Gwen is not yet 'officially' a trans character, that's all I meant with my response.
Obviously all the iconography, allegory and stuff is already fantastic and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Gwen is meant to be trans even if the movies won't explicitly spell it out.
I mean, you're still doing the thing I said. You're recognizing all the elements that have led to multiple trans people saying she's trans, and then acting incredulous at the thought of believing so unless she wears a shirt that says "my dead name was…"
Like etiira pointed out, it's some aggressive "Cis unless explicitly stated." TheGummyBear wrote:I know you meant well, and talked to Vonocourt about it.
Sometimes it's best to leave trans joy be though, right?
Like how much stuff do we get? And how much joyous mainstream stuff?
I get both of you, but it's not a thread for doubting trans icons, no? It's a thread to celebrate trans joy and characters that bring us that. Quote:On retrospect Gwen is like obvious as shit, but I definitely didn't pick that up.
Quote:She's been mentioned several times, but Dreamer from Supergirl is a very important character to me personally. I credit her and the actress who played her, Nicole Maines, for helping me figure out I was trans and gain the courage to being my transition. She is one of the very few celebrities that I would go out of my way to meet. I just want to thank her in person some day.
The Chosen One wrote:Oh wow, amazing. I think my daughter mentioned this to me briefly but she didn't really have any supporting evidence, lol. But after reading your post, I'm a believer now! Like I don't even think it's ambiguous, it's very clear Gwen is trans and I'm glad the artists found a way to be direct with it. Kyuuji wrote:Quote:about the commendations tbh I see the top as blue green and then a blue green checker, then white/red, then yellow/white and last one is purple
Real fuckin weird then isn't it that in the scene where he's at home with Gwen these intricate detailed commendations become horizontal bars of flat colours in the order of blue, pink, white, pink, blue. This film wasn't shot with a camera, it's not a lens effect or side effect of depth of field. It's an animation and each detail was drawn. The artists are aware of what a trans flag looks like since they've drawn one hanging on the wall of the daughter of the guy whose jacket we're discussing. You know a large trans flag that says 'protect trans kids' on it. So you have him at home with his commendations morphed to resemble a trans flag, and his daughter flying a trans flag on her wall. You have the colours of the scene when she comes out to her dad and explains the difficulty of hiding half of herself shift directly to deep blue hues, pinks and whites and banding of said colours on her hair. You have casual mention from Hobie asking if she's wearing his shoes. You have mentions of her playing with the same toys Miles did when she was a kid.
The point isn't to pick at these and be like "lol ackshually it's purple and that's a checkerboard blue" it's to understand this is an animation and these details were considered. That marvel/sony execs would never allow for Gwen to be explicitly trans so the best anyone could hope for is for her to be trans coded, which is what we got.
We could flip this and I could ask you why you believe she's cisgender. What do you have that she is? Why is it that the baseline assumption is that every character must be cisgender with a bar in the stratosphere before people accept they might be trans? To where you go at it with the intent of trying to invalidate the elements that point toward her being trans instead of coming up with reasoning for why she's cis.
So I find it like, super hard to believe your intent wasn't to nitpick one aspect with the intention of disproving it when every single post in this thread has been about doing just that. Quote:This thread has made me really realize how few options there are in the media I most often consume.
Aske wrote:Fuck yeah. This was going to be my answer. There's also a specific Dreamer storyline in Supergirl that relates to her gender made me tear up with all the emotions.
Anyone who wants a feel-good show that tackles progressive (and regressive) issues in a cosy and positive way, from creatives who wanted to push back against the bullshit post 2016, really need to give Supergirl a watch. Yeah, it's a bit on the nose; and that's what I didn't know I needed until Supergirl served up its final couple of seasons a few years back. Aske wrote:...This is amazing. That number 2 screenshot in particular is absolutely screaming trans coding; to say nothing of all the parallels in her character arc. All I noticed was the poster, and figured that's exactly the kind of poster a cis teen girl with trans friends would have. If I were a better viewer, I'd have seen the flag, and that should have primed me to pick up on the other elements. Things like the flag on her dad's lapel - no shit it changes, it's supposed to. His support and understanding of her spidering is in flux. He's capable of it, but we can all see how easily he could fail his daughter and push her further away.
Quote:Speaking of Gwen being trans, there's also evidence that Hobie is also trans or possibly enby. The designer even said they purposely made him genderqueer since that was an important part of punk.
If there was any doubt that the artists knew exactly what they were doing with Gwen, I feel like this delicious tidbit quashes it pretty decisively. Cannot wait to watch it again with all this in mind.
Quote:I feel so annoyed that the colors during Gwen's speech didn't register to me as the trans flag colors. I love picking apart little details like that. This is what I get for not playing Celeste till after Across the Spider-Verse.
Same! I was completely oblivious. There's so much stuff going on in terms of the movie's visuals, but that's also the reason the animators were able to get away with this. I love trans joy so much.
(11-18-2023, 06:04 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/doctor-who-60th-anniversary-specials-ot-across-the-whoniverse.786138/page-4
Quote: User Banned (2 weeks): thread derailment / antagonizing other members over a series of post, previously actioned for the same behavior
TheGummyBear wrote:The Unsent wrote:Ok, I have nothing else to say. I'd watch Doctor Who with the new series from Christmas day. Im in agreement, but come on. I agree with what you say, but time to take a day friend?
Like, I'm the know trouble maker on this subject. The admins likely want this month out of the way because of me.
And I'm telling you to take it easy. Boy the staff sure did react fast to the member's reports there huh.
It's a weak ban and a little stupid.
They should just threadban TheGummyBears from the Doctor Who OT. That would be actually useful compared to banning them a few weeks over and over.
(11-18-2023, 06:20 AM)benji wrote: I love trans joy so much.
I ain't reading all that shit, but... fuck those arseholes.
11-18-2023, 07:00 AM
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"Gwen is trans."
"Why? The creators didn't say that.."
"GWEN IS FUCKING TRANS OKAY, WHY ARE YOU GENOCIDING ME?! DID YOU NOT READ THE FUCKING GENDER STEROTYPING LIST?!"
User banned (permanent): Denying the trans genocide in a sensitive thread.
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Where’s the fucking burka squad when you actually need them to crack some skulls
“Thanos is trans. Proof: he’s gay-color-adjacent (purple), collects jewelry, and hates half the population.”
That’s how all their media literacy goes.
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There goes James Gunn into the bin again:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumour-general-story-beats-for-james-gunn%E2%80%99s-superman-legacy-movie-emerges-online-spoilers.786435/
Quote:Terrorists in the middle east? :(
Quote:The American hero icon reveals himself when fighting terrorists in the Middle East.... yeah this is going to go well. /s
Quote:Only acceptable if it's Superman fighting the IDF
Quote:I would be absolutely shocked if "Superman goes to the middle east to beat up terrorists who got their hands on Kryptonian tech" is a story beat again considering they just did that in Batman vs. Superman.
Quote:Can we get some damn terrorists in Alabama for once?
Quote:Corny enough when Iron Man did it, but at least that had the excuse of being made deep in the War on Terror era.
Quote:my eyes rolled at ME terrorists too
Him diffusing some domestic nonsense makes way more sense too considering he's "early" in his career
Quote:Are you kidding me...reboot Superman with this?
Also absolutely awful timing, c'mon lol.
Had way higher hopes for Gunn with DC...really hope this is false.
Quote:Now James Gunn can look at this thread and tell us all that these were fake rumors and trash the script and then make a good one
Quote:Didn't WW84 also have a subplot about terrorists in the ME?
Quote:Yeah they can fuck right off with that ME bullshit. What a great way to correct course from the Snyder edgy stuff /s.
Quote:Terrorists in the middle east. How quaint.
Quote:Terrorists in Middle East. And probably in a country without a name! On some desert. It doesn't matter. I'm so bored of this shit and it's so offensive and disgusting.
Disney was right on this one, it was a clear win gettting rid of this chud.
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