Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

My brother in law spent 10 years on a nuclear sub but will not fly because he is claustrophobic.

I would much rather get into some military vehicle than a commercial one tbh. At least you kinda know that there weren't any cost savings made for profitability and there are probably more qualified personnel working on it.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-25#post-107719992

Also, the Wikipedia description of all that is far less tinfoil hattery with no mention of how you're allowed to just check it out or that anyone thinks there's a secret hidden ocean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Hole

Some are literally shaking rn

Ok I’m going to bed now.

That's some lovecraftian shit right there... nope nope nope

I'm sorry wait what the fuck

This is incredibly scary, but then it's also incredibly sad because in these situations often going to try and rescue people ends up with more people dying as well. Has nobody ever tried sending scientific equipment into that hole?

YOU GUYS ARE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET RIGHT NOW

[jooseloose]

My brother in law spent 10 years on a nuclear sub but will not fly because he is claustrophobic.

I would much rather get into some military vehicle than a commercial one tbh. At least you kinda know that there weren't any cost savings made for profitability and there are probably more qualified personnel working on it.

[Besticus Maximus]

Look at them all, horrified that things don't work like America without even realising that is what is upsetting them.

They hate being American and how America works, mostly for good reason tbf what with the healthcare and god situation, but as sure as they'd put their hands on their hearts if you started humming a few bars of the stars and stripes, as soon as they get to make wild, deranged moral judgements about what foreigners are doing sure as shit they're in there like rockets

[Eric Cartman]

we got a big one.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-20#post-107704113

I need to be completely honest here, this thread is fucking embarrassing and is embarrassing from two different positions that I will now outline. If you feel attacked by the rest of this post, I would ask you to reflect on this and ask yourself why and if maybe you should change your behavior or views in some way. That said, I doubt it happens and I expect a lot of angry tickets, reports, PMs, and general whining on whatever discord you're on where your buddies will tell you that you did nothing wrong and flame me and describe the time they got banned for bigotry or platform warring as something more noble instead of the nonsense it was. Because that's what usually happens in these situations.

Moving on, here we go.
1.The first group that should be embarrassed are the ones celebrating this. You lack empathy and use your ideology to justify it. What you're doing is known as "othering" and it's something you likely learned about in high school. Othering is when you take a group of people and separate them from the rest of society and use things like stereotypes in order to justify said othering. Usually, when someone others another person they use this to justify treating them as different, as separate, and somehow deserving of the bad things that happen to them. It's a way to justify feeling happy when shitty things happen to them. When this thread started everyone felt bad for the people missing, then when we found out one was rich that flipped around and people started celebrating even though that also means you're celebrating this same thing happening to the other victims. This is called being an asshole. Random people do not deserve horrible things happening to them, regardless of who they happened to be in a room with. By celebrating you are literally justifying the deaths of random people as "worth it" to kill this one guy. You can not care, that's fine. I don't care about all of this. I feel bad for the innocent people and don't care what happens to this guy, but a lot of you are straight up crossing the line even if you think you aren't. You know who you are because you feel attacked by this and you should because you're embarrassing yourselves. Be better people, it's not hard. Just don't be an asshole, you learn that as a kid but apparently people forget that lesson when they hit adulthood. Seriously, don't be a jerk.

2.The second group that should be embarrassed are the people who are derailing the thread by "tut tutting" the first group of people. You're making this thread about them instead of about the actual victims and we should all know better than that. By engaging in this behavior you are making the thread about yourself and the people you are attacking. When bad things happen to people we should be centering the victims, this is basic. This is the sort of thing that everyone with empathy intrinsically knows. By making it about yourselves and the meta discussion you take the focus away from those who have been hurt, killed, or put in danger. All of a sudden it's about you on your soapbox and you give space to the assholes in point one to make the thread about justifying their othering, thus making the problem worse. Derailing a thread like this will never make it any better, this is why I made a staff post telling people to knock it off. You should be embarrassed because you recognized the bad behavior and instead of ignoring it, reporting it, and keeping the focus on the victims you made the thread about the forum and the posters in this thread. Congratulations, you derailed the thread.
There is also a third group that did the right thing that has no need to be embarrassed because they did the right thing. They saw the thread was in a bad state, sent in some reports, and tried to keep the focus on the victims. Good job, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for not making the thread about you and trying to keep the focus where it belongs.

As you have probably noticed, I made a staff post earlier in this thread asking everyone to knock off the nonsense. Everyone decided that this did not apply to them and kept going. I happened to be at work and what do I find when I get home? Bullshit. Seriously, grow up, go outside and touch some grass. It wasn't a hard request, but apparently not being the center of attention or having basic humanity is hard. Who knew?

As such, I will be going through this thread and issuing bans to everyone who decided to ignore the staff post and a few of the ones before I made my post because holy shit guys. My suggestion is to take this as a learning opportunity, a moment to reflect on what has happened and grow as a person. We're all like that, nobody is perfect. Everyone will fuck up eventually. Take the opportunity, please, I beg you. It's not hard to actually care about people.

I love how he spends #2 looking down at the people tu-tutting the grave dancers, right after doing the EXACT SAME THING. Maybe if you're inept moderation team did something about it, you wouldn't have people feeling like they had to say something. But then, when your admin is saying, AFTER you made your post to say on topic:

There's some degree of irony in rich people going down to tour a mass grave caused by incompetence and cut corners where the highest mortality rate was among the third class passengers, while in a submarine fueled by incompetence and cut corners

Tell me about it.

Still, sucks for the people on board because- assuming they didn't resurface- that is a shitty way to go.

Then what are people to think? Where's any fucking consistency?

If you read bitch-dubs post carefully though, it is consistent; he basically says gravedancing the rich guy is 100% a-okay, and he agrees with it - its only because there was some collateral damage as well that its in poor taste.

All his 'othering' talk is flying entirely over his own head

[Eric Cartman]

My brother in law spent 10 years on a nuclear sub but will not fly because he is claustrophobic.

I would much rather get into some military vehicle than a commercial one tbh. At least you kinda know that there weren't any cost savings made for profitability and there are probably more qualified personnel working on it.

Quality Control and Value For Money are famously abundant in Military-Industrial Complex boondoggles purchasing projects

[Eric Cartman]

Also, the Wikipedia description of all that is far less tinfoil hattery with no mention of how you're allowed to just check it out or that anyone thinks there's a secret hidden ocean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Hole

Some are literally shaking rn

Ok I’m going to bed now.

That's some lovecraftian shit right there... nope nope nope

I'm sorry wait what the fuck

This is incredibly scary, but then it's also incredibly sad because in these situations often going to try and rescue people ends up with more people dying as well. Has nobody ever tried sending scientific equipment into that hole?

YOU GUYS ARE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET RIGHT NOW

Yeah, but they need to check the dossiers on peoples twitter follows to know if it was Good Science or Bad Science that investigated

[Snoopy]

Titanic stories always make me feel weird as my great uncle went down on the ship, he was a porter in the kitchens. Anyone else here have a relative who was on it? It's kind of an eerie feeling, my Grandpa used to talk about him.

Isn't it amazing that a forum as small as Resetera always has a ree with a personal connection to every major event that ever happened

[HaughtyFrank]

Just imagine an monoethnic state that had a super tiny uptick in immigrants and the whole governments turns into the hands of a fascist. Don't say I am surprised. Maybe it will get some people on this forums from worshipping Scandinavian countries? who am I kidding lol

Hold up, how is Finland supposed to be a monoethnic state if Europe was always diverse, even in medieval times? 

Also, I need more context to the "tiny uptick of imigrants" considering we're talking about a country with merely 5.5 million people

[NekoFever]

Titanic stories always make me feel weird as my great uncle went down on the ship, he was a porter in the kitchens. Anyone else here have a relative who was on it? It's kind of an eerie feeling, my Grandpa used to talk about him.

Isn't it amazing that a forum as small as Resetera always has a ree with a personal connection to every major event that ever happened

To be fair, the Titanic is one of those statistical case studies where you probably don't have to look too far to find a family connection given 2,200-odd people aboard, several times that for their immediate families (the Era poster is claiming a great uncle, so not an immediate ancestor), and 111 years of intermarriage and population growth.

It's like when someone claims to be a descendant of Charlemagne or Genghis Khan – they probably are, statistically speaking, but so are hundreds of millions of people.

[Kadayi]

On a scale of fucked to absolutely fucked how do you think they are faring? At what point do they start looking at the lunatics running the asylum at Era and decide enough is enough and either start capping some heads or look to sell?

You're making a common obvious mistake. They don't care about ResetERA.com. They don't care about any of the assets they're gobbling up. There's one goal: aggregate all the user numbers and sell "the network" to idiots who will give them capital to buy more user numbers. It'll collapse eventually, especially when interest rates go up and capital needs to redirect to actual productive uses, but that's a problem for the investors.

It's only applicable whilst they can continue to sell advertising space. Sure Era is a long way from forum death, but let's be honest it's a shadow of what GAF used to be at its height in terms of both web traffic as well as overall activity. Certainly one could argue that forums have fallen out of vogue to some degree with the rise of Reddit coupled with the immediacy of Twitter, however at the same time the relentless banning of users for perceived wrongthink and driving off of long-term members to various splinter sites isn't exactly a smart business strategy. You want growth, not contraction. 

What are they now? A gaming site that half the time won't let you talk about a game or a topic because someone somewhere from on high deems it problematic, and they've pretty much killed off any quality to their gaming OTs, which used to be the big thing with gaming forums (celebrating games)

Here is their dismal Jedi Survivor OT (whose Creator has now apparently been banned it seems..)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-jedi-survivor-ot-have-you-ever-removed-your-poncho.713138/ 

And here is mine at D-Pad (I like OTs I cannot lie) . 

https://d-pad.life/threads/star-wars-jedi-survivor-ot-blast-from-the-past.11262/

(Excuse the pimp, but trying to make a point here..the Art of the OT is basically dead at that place)

They killed off my boy Black Chamber simply because he was excited about Cyberpunk2077, they also killed off Wozman23 who wrote their OT guidance and did a tonne of good OTs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tips-tricks-for-ots-ot-design-intervention.13550/

They're not really about games anymore, they're about finding fault with everything and purging their membership down to the bone of anyone who they deem impure, regardless of how much time they've put into the place. It's some right Jonestown mentality.

[Besticus Maximus]

The Finns are not truly monoethnic and there is a minority issue with the Sami people, but they're white so fuck those dudes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sámi

The Sámi (/ˈsɑːmi/ SAH-mee; also spelled Sami or Saami) are the traditionally Sámi-speaking people inhabiting the region of Sápmi, which today encompasses large northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland, and of the Kola Peninsula in Russia. The region of Sápmi was formerly known as Lapland, and the Sámi have historically been known in English as Lapps or Laplanders, but these terms are regarded as offensive by the Sámi, who prefer the area's name in their own languages, e.g. Northern Sámi Sápmi.[8][9] Their traditional languages are the Sámi languages, which are classified as a branch of the Uralic language family.

Traditionally, the Sámi have pursued a variety of livelihoods, including coastal fishing, fur trapping, and sheep herding. Their best-known means of livelihood is semi-nomadic reindeer herding. As of 2007 about 10% of the Sámi were connected to reindeer herding, which provides them with meat, fur, and transportation; around 2,800 Sámi people were actively involved in reindeer herding on a full-time basis in Norway.[10] For traditional, environmental, cultural, and political reasons, reindeer herding is legally reserved for only Sámi in some regions of the Nordic countries.[11]

They do trend towards the fash somewhat though and should probably be reined in. The only clip of Hitler's speaking voice is this one, we're he's talking with the Finnish generalissimo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_and_Mannerheim_recording

The Hitler and Mannerheim recording is a 1942 recording of a private conversation between German dictator Adolf Hitler, and Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim, Commander-in-Chief of the Finnish Defence Forces. It took place on a secret visit made to Finland by Hitler to honour Mannerheim's 75th birthday on 4 June 1942, during the Continuation War, a sub-theatre of World War II.

[Eric Cartman]

Just imagine an monoethnic state that had a super tiny uptick in immigrants and the whole governments turns into the hands of a fascist. Don't say I am surprised. Maybe it will get some people on this forums from worshipping Scandinavian countries? who am I kidding lol

Hold up, how is Finland supposed to be a monoethnic state if Europe was always diverse, even in medieval times? 

Also, I need more context to the "tiny uptick of imigrants" considering we're talking about a country with merely 5.5 million people

It was a record high of 50k last year, so we're talking ~0.1% of the population.

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So 2-3 times the number of Non-Binaries in the US

[Potato]

[quote="HaughtyFrank" pid='3359' dateline='1687344910']
It was a record high of 50k last year, so we're talking ~0.1% of the population.

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So 2-3 times the number of Non-Binaries in the US

What you taking about? There's 50k non-binaries on Reeeeesetera alone?

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-government-guidance-for-schools-mandates-outing-children-to-parents-denying-uniform-pronoun-changes-without-their-consent-and-more.732477/page-2#post-107622903

I've come to realize that they are more worried about the possibility that a cisgender kid might transition and regret it. In their mind, the hypothetical suffering of a cis person is greater than the guaranteed suffering of trans kids.

Absolutely. See the hypothetical suffering of a cis woman vs. the guaranteed suffering of trans women were the Equality Act changed. The feelings of cis people override everything, from rights to safety.

"My feelings are the ones that are important."

To stop the trans genocide, there are just gonna have to be some cis sacrifices.

[YuYu]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jonathan-majors-appears-in-court-for-first-time-in-assault-case-trial-to-begin-in-august.732921/page-2#post-107734143

User Banned (Permanent): Misrepresenting moderation, persistent trolling of threads involving sensitive subject matter

The concept of innocent until proven guilty doesn't seem to exist these days.



This just shows once again that you need to reserve judgement.

It does with me and I was given a week ban defending it.

That one week ban just turned into a permanenet one. 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-27#post-107726253

The funny part is that some witnessess, who were women, said back in the day that the ship broke in half before the sinking.

But men mansplained to them how that wasn't possible and so the prevailing theory ended up being that the ship sunk in one piece.

[Kadayi]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jonathan-majors-appears-in-court-for-first-time-in-assault-case-trial-to-begin-in-august.732921/page-2#post-107734143

User Banned (Permanent): Misrepresenting moderation, persistent trolling of threads involving sensitive subject matter

The concept of innocent until proven guilty doesn't seem to exist these days.



This just shows once again that you need to reserve judgement.

It does with me and I was given a week ban defending it.

That one week ban just turned into a permanent one. 

The previous ban probably put her on their 'to perm at a later date' shitlist. They just needed an excuse to pull the trigger and she gave them one. 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/secret-invasions-opening-credits-were-made-using-ai.733266/page-3#post-107731524

The “MCU is creatively bankrupt” army just got a supply drop on the frontlines.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/secret-invasions-opening-credits-were-made-using-ai.733266/page-3#post-107731524

The “MCU is creatively bankrupt” army just got a supply drop on the frontlines.

Same weirdo who snuck into the Flash as some sort of moral grandstanding

[Kadayi]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/secret-invasions-opening-credits-were-made-using-ai.733266/page-3#post-107731524

The “MCU is creatively bankrupt” army just got a supply drop on the frontlines.

How long before then Bans start landing for anyone defending AI Art? 

[Taco Bell Tower]

I love how Haze's trolling is making Ree users think they're lying
Tigress

Let me illustrate just one of the many reasons. The one you wouldn’t need to know about water pressures about.

Can you walk two miles on flat land while holding your breath? Now imagine trying to swim up two miles while holding your breath.

Haze

Yes very easily

Sandstar

Uh....you can walk for 2 miles without breathing?

Tigress

You either are lying or have no idea how long two miles is.

Triggergappytel

You can't "very easily" hold your breath and walk 2 miles. Stop lying. Apparently the average walking speed for most people is 3mph. Let's say you walk at 6mph, so you do a mile every 10 minutes - so you'd need to hold your breath for 20 minutes. The world record for holding breath underwater is apparently just under 12 minutes so you'd be on pace to smash the world record by like 80%. And even if we say you're going at 9mph I'd imagine that would be more like a jog and you'd be doing not inconsiderable physical exercise while also trying to hold your breath. While still being on world record pace for holding your breath. Doesn't seem likely.

HStallion

Lol you're probably one of those people who thinks they could beat up a gorilla with their bare hands.

Soda

You a fucking liar lol

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/30fps-is-an-accessibility-issue.733425/

Sweet jesus

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/titanic-tourist-sub-goes-missing-sparking-search.732486/page-27#post-107726253

The funny part is that some witnessess, who were women, said back in the day that the ship broke in half before the sinking.

But men mansplained to them how that wasn't possible and so the prevailing theory ended up being that the ship sunk in one piece.

It makes me feel slightly better that even on Era this post has more informed people telling him he's talking out of his ass.

There's even an opportunity to blame capitalism – they likely went with the accounts that it sank in one piece because the senior surviving ship's officer was one of them, but he was probably pressured by the White Star Line to not say that their ships could, you know, break in half – but he lashed out for the opportunity to blame the patriarchy despite that not having any basis in reality.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

imagine thinking they weren't using AI for marvel movie climax scenes with thousands of *checks notes* creatures.

[Greatness Gone]

Some of these FF16 reviews read like resetera posts wtf???? Game is literally being dinged for not being ethnically diverse, Clive being normal and the story being too serious.

Fuck modern games journalism.

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/30fps-is-an-accessibility-issue.733425/

Sweet jesus

Yikes, 84.9% of users dismissing concerns surrounding accessibility.

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/30fps-is-an-accessibility-issue.733425/

Sweet jesus

Yikes, 84.9% of users dismissing concerns surrounding accessibility.

IDK it kind of is and it kind of isn't. 30fps when combined with low FOV is probably the biggest contributor to me getting motion sickness in games. But not all 30fps games have bad fields of view.

[JoeBoy101]

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Some of these FF16 reviews read like resetera posts wtf???? Game is literally being dinged for not being ethnically diverse, Clive being normal and the story being too serious.

Fuck modern games journalism.

Well, the die has been cast, and they smell the chance to piggy back some performative commentary on top of reviews.

[JoeBoy101]

ERA: We demand more ethnically authentic voice actors.

SEGA: https://www.resetera.com/threads/yong-yea-is-kiryus-new-english-va-in-lad-gaiden.733323/

ERA: No! Not that one!