Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Besticus Maximus]

That women criticizing thread is literally just dudes lowkey talking about their sexual fantasies.

about digimon too 

[Taco Bell Tower]

That women criticizing thread is literally just dudes lowkey talking about their sexual fantasies.

Morrigan is the only biological woman in that thread.

[Bootsthecat]

Messyfaggot even tried to bait in demo thread n got shot down instantly. 

So lol to see those dozen bitch posters get just flat out laughed at, with the deuling-banjos of the demo thread versus burka thread. They're just throwing shit at the wall and praying at this point while normies enjoy and discuss the latest videogame. Great content

[Not an Alt Account]

All the resetera "ladies" had to bail from the stellar blade thread after that mod said he was in an asshole banning mood. Fucking cowards.

[Nintex]

I consume a lot of pretty gross media just because it looked interesting, for example (albeit knowing that it's gross while going in. It's usually a case of "this looks absolutely ridiculous and I have to know how they justify it or why it's this way."

[railGUN]

I get it; and not to do a comparison of crimes with Lizzo because his was acutely exponentially more terrible (as opposed to her accused terribleness) but lots of the media slant in regards to Puff Daddy in comparison to Weinstein definitely has a BLACK RAPPER slant;

Imagine that. Diddy, the black rapper, getting the black rapper slant vs Harvey Weinstein, the white movie producer not getting the black rapper slant.

[Uncle]

I 1000% agree with second tweet. But im sure the people she's referring to we'll just dig their head deeper.

I think it's in our food

the global west imports so much from places that hate them, and they've got some chemical they've been putting in everything to make us all retarded

the fact that I'm proposing such a retarded conspiracy proves it is true

[Boredfrom]

I just can't in good conscience enjoy giant monster fights set in fully populated cities like this, like I'm supposed to cheer for the heroes while they're exploding buildings and causing 50 9/11s all around them. The ungodly toll of innocent human life paid in the finale of this film given no mention whatsoever. "He curled back up and went to sleep how cute."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/godzilla-x-kong-ot-go-go-titan-bros.831234/page-4?post=121102581#post-121102581

[Nintex]

It's just a twisted sense of morality and wanting to fit in.

The entire promise of the Gen X and Millenial generation was this idea that they would do better than the boomers (their parents/grandparents).
They would tear down the old conservative structures and values and in its place something better would emerge. 

However, they never considered that those old structures and values existed for reasons other than "evil white men wanted this" and in some case kept worse demons at bay.
But they can't accept that so they gaslight themselves into thinking that what they are doing is actually the right thing.

The human traffickers aren't the problem but 'capitalism' is because migrants pay them.  
Violence isn't the problem but the fact that cops police the streets, so all cops are bad.
Experimental therapies, child abuse and mental problems aren't the issue but the fact that no one can get their dick snapped at age 12.

Most of them simply live in fantasy land.

[FEUER FREI.]

That women criticizing thread is literally just dudes lowkey talking about their sexual fantasies.

Morrigan is the only biological woman in that thread.

something i noticed also is that she rarely posts in that thread anymore. she used to post there often in earlier days but pretty much checked out since

that or there is just a lot more fuckups posting in that thread nowadays

[Nintex]

Jim Stephanie Sterling rated Dragons Dogma a 3/10 after giving the same low scores to Helldivers II, Alan Wake 2 and other popular games.

Gamers are now calling for his "troll" reviews to be removed from MetaCritic/OpenCritic

[kaleidoscopium]

Sounds like Kyuuji played stellar blade 

Don't worry in 5 minutes she's impaled and has her arm ripped off as Eve lies completely useless on the ground. The second time a woman is impaled by an enemy in the opening 10 minutes. Wouldn't be worth noting much but honestly, with all the other sexist stuff it just comes off as 'whats sexualisation without a little trauma?'. Isn't me saying women can't get messed up in things either, people who know me know I like horror and female leads in horror. It's just when it's amidst everything else it's just an additional ick. Dolls getting pulled apart because.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-346?post=121102500#post-121102500

[FEUER FREI.]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-346?post=121103193#post-121103193

"Eve's Based on an IRL person!" goes hand and hand with "actually the director has been happily married for 10 years" as most common things I'm seeing over and over again with this game right now. Yes because saying that a person has never seen a real woman means literally and you sure owned them.

I don't even click these tweets so wish they would stop being served to me. I must have looked too long at some game related thing and now that's all I get.

wtf does this even mean. the arguments these people use are countered and then they like "we didnt LITERALLY mean that" 

its just this:



i was so close to posting this image as a reply to them (and many other posts over the time), but i dont want to suicide my account just yet until there is great opportunity to do so because i still want access to the "non-public" zoo threads lol

[Besticus Maximus]

I literally mean Kyuuji and the burka thread have never known a woman in the biblical sense

[Eric Cartman]

People don't understand what they are implying 99% of the time when they say that a property didn't "justify its existence" when it has a woman, POC, etc lead.

It doesn't need to justify its existence and it may even exist for someone other than you. Does that make it a risk? Sure. Does that make it a risk not worth taking? Nah, even a corporate behemoth like Disney should be taking risks on projects like Echo, The Marvels, Thunderbolts, Young Avengers, etc because representation matters and just one of those projects landing (or even being middling) goes a long way for many people.

Not every swing at representation has to be Black Panther levels of zeitgeist or Captain Marvel levels of "made a billion". Sometimes a movie can fail critically or financially and still be an important work for at least trying.

Do Marvel projects need more time in the oven and better oversight? Yes.

However please for the love of God check your privilege when saying something doesn't need to exist or doesn't justify its existence. It's gross.

Young Avengers is a route to LGBTQ+ stories in the MCU in a way they've never done before.

Thunderbolts is a superhero team led by a woman.

Cap 4, despite all the turmoil, is one of the biggest opportunities for a follow up to Black Panther and having another POC male leading a mega franchise within the MCU.

Agatha has a chance to FINALLY start pulling in elements of Roma representation that is sorely lacking in the MCU.

You may not like these projects and they may not appeal to you but not everything has to appeal to you and we should be hoping these all succeed.

Even fucking Iron Fist, a project with a white male lead, is a good thing to come back because the whole history of Danny Rand is about checking his white privilege in regards to not just Asia, but also his relationship with Luke Cage.

It's the entire point of the character in modern interpretations.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/future-marvel-movies-tv-shows-spoiler-discussion-ot-leaks-rumors-set-pics-and-more.515571/page-132?post=121061151#post-121061151

The gimmick of the OG Thunderbolts was that they were a team of Supervillains masquerading as superheroes (in a period of time were the Avengers were dead in main Marvel Comics universe) and ended liking being heroes.

The other Thunderbolts teams were Baron Zemo and company being ambiguously evil/good and Marvel’ Suicide Squad (with Norman Osborn acting like discount Lex Luthor).

This dumbshit has clearly never actually read a comic, because their 'the point of...' summaries are fucking ludicrous.

MCU Thunderbolts isn't even 'led by a woman', unless you say the MCU Avengers were led by a black man (which the culture warriors won't say, because it cuts their bullshit FINALLY A BLACK LEAD! nonsense down at the knees.

And where Marvel can release a shit series that for twitter brownie points and asspats, their investment into that is an artist and a writer pretty much doing it for clout in the first place.

Whole different ballgame when you're dropping $100 million+ onto something even your own fanbase thinks is mid and the only selling point is "look! minorities!" like its a fucking trip to the zoo

[DocWager]

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-346?post=121103193#post-121103193

"Eve's Based on an IRL person!" goes hand and hand with "actually the director has been happily married for 10 years" as most common things I'm seeing over and over again with this game right now. Yes because saying that a person has never seen a real woman means literally and you sure owned them.

I don't even click these tweets so wish they would stop being served to me. I must have looked too long at some game related thing and now that's all I get.

wtf does this even mean. the arguments these people use are countered and then they like "we didnt LITERALLY mean that" 

its just this:



i was so close to posting this image as a reply to them (and many other posts over the time), but i dont want to suicide my account just yet until there is great opportunity to do so because i still want access to the "non-public" zoo threads lol

Oh it’s you, TwoHearts!!!

[Eric Cartman]

NothingLoud is a white trash Tabris, dude does nothing but post about his purchases other than when he posts lamenting how hard it is to live on minimum wage

he made some thread about his "backlighting setup" that was the most garish and ugly mess of LED garbage i've seen

Easier to spunk a load of cash up the wall than fix your broken marriage

[Averon]

An actual, surprisingly sensible rebuttal to ComedySmashers hyperbolic nagging in the Burqa Thread:

Here's my philosophy. Are the "good parts" - parts of basically any half-decent game you can find anywhere - worth the pain and long-term societal damage caused by the bad parts? I don't think so. As of late, most games are at least halfway decent in terms of mechanical quality, and the number of games that are genuinely BAD TO PLAY is dwarfed by the number of games that are at least "sort of fun".

See I think the issue with this specific argument is that it falls into the same "won't somebody think of the children" justification that was used to try to paint violent video games as having a negative impact on society. Like the "long term societal damage" is such a nebulous concept that pinning it to a single game or even genre feels extremely short sighted. Stellar Blade is also one of only games with this kind of content in the past decade or so. Unless Stellar Blade is a massive success and triggers a giant wave of sexed up early 2000's sexualization I really don't think Stellar Blade is going to do a lot of damage to the world, at least compare to the legion of Andrew Tate clones shitting it up in podcasts.

[Eric Cartman]

I'm mildly curious if anyone internally at sony studios is also raising a stink over this game. It pretty funny that this is coming with a big Sony endorsement

Global Sony Exec Zoom call:

Head of Sony US:
"Point of personal privilege: as someone who is non binary and one sixty fourth indigenous, and suffering from generational trauma induced ADHD and PSD, I want to question Sony Asia as to why they think this white supremacist body shaming is acceptable, and why my localisation teams have to suffer the emotional labour of rewriting all of the plot to be about the patriachy and censoring all of the graphics? In current year, in this month of all months."

Head of Sony Asia:
"Ohhhh me so solly, no speakee engrish! We super hype for this, prease no forget blibe for Famitsu 10/10! USA numbah one!"

[Eric Cartman]

this is the post that will prevent appointment to Sony Worldwide Studios

[HaughtyFrank]

Just came across an article from The Gamer, a gaming site that's so woke it often borders on parody (https://www.thegamer.com/hogwarts-legacy-transphobia-sales-reviews-jk-rowling/)
but now they actually argue that no one is upset by Stellar Blade and that the protagonist is completely fine.

I feel downright gaslighted

https://www.thegamer.com/stellar-blade-character-design-eve-controversial-journalists/

[Disco55]

The Gamer being trash? Must be a day that ends in Y

[Boredfrom]

An actual, surprisingly sensible rebuttal to ComedySmashers hyperbolic nagging in the Burqa Thread:

Here's my philosophy. Are the "good parts" - parts of basically any half-decent game you can find anywhere - worth the pain and long-term societal damage caused by the bad parts? I don't think so. As of late, most games are at least halfway decent in terms of mechanical quality, and the number of games that are genuinely BAD TO PLAY is dwarfed by the number of games that are at least "sort of fun".

See I think the issue with this specific argument is that it falls into the same "won't somebody think of the children" justification that was used to try to paint violent video games as having a negative impact on society. Like the "long term societal damage" is such a nebulous concept that pinning it to a single game or even genre feels extremely short sighted. Stellar Blade is also one of only games with this kind of content in the past decade or so. Unless Stellar Blade is a massive success and triggers a giant wave of sexed up early 2000's sexualization I really don't think Stellar Blade is going to do a lot of damage to the world, at least compare to the legion of Andrew Tate clones shitting it up in podcasts.

That dude still fails because he thinks the 2000’s sexualization somehow harmed the world. The same forum that defends nudes on Twitch or Drag Shows for children. Princess Chicle can admit she likes to wank with imaginary lesbians but god forbid some ass in a AAA video game.

I'm gonna just repost this here for posterity, but I've seen the "Eve's based on an IRL person!!" argument too much for my liking.

Cuz I'm not sure what they kept: Her face was crafted by the dev team and her body was clearly redesigned for way more curves.
It's makes me sad when, even outside this context, the models aren't good enough lol :/

They should have chosen Lizzo and grift the body positive movement.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Sounds like Kyuuji played stellar blade 

Don't worry in 5 minutes she's impaled and has her arm ripped off as Eve lies completely useless on the ground. The second time a woman is impaled by an enemy in the opening 10 minutes. Wouldn't be worth noting much but honestly, with all the other sexist stuff it just comes off as 'whats sexualisation without a little trauma?'. Isn't me saying women can't get messed up in things either, people who know me know I like horror and female leads in horror. It's just when it's amidst everything else it's just an additional ick. Dolls getting pulled apart because.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-346?post=121102500#post-121102500

Of course she was like she said she was gonna boycott Cyberpunk 2077 which she said someone "gifted" her the game and replayed it a couple of times.  She's gonna use the same excuse when SB is out, just watch.  5 bucks says she replayed the Wizard Game multiple times.

[Eric Cartman]

Missing something here, this guy is a resetera member? Or is this the guy that princessBubblegum is getting her transbian porn novel from?

[Eric Cartman]

I consume a lot of pretty gross media just because it looked interesting, for example (albeit knowing that it's gross while going in. It's usually a case of "this looks absolutely ridiculous and I have to know how they justify it or why it's this way."

In fairness, I have wondered how the guys step mother got stuck in a washing machine

[I don't swear]

It doesn't add up. Why are you playing a game you don't support? Inb4 someone spends their money to gift them the game so they can play the game with the excuse "It wasn't my money, someone paid $70+ so I could play it (free from the guilt of financially supporting the devs)."  IDK dude...

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/post-121102638

uh...what? these people are just beyond strange

[Hap Shaughnessy]

An actual, surprisingly sensible rebuttal to ComedySmashers hyperbolic nagging in the Burqa Thread:

See I think the issue with this specific argument is that it falls into the same "won't somebody think of the children" justification that was used to try to paint violent video games as having a negative impact on society. Like the "long term societal damage" is such a nebulous concept that pinning it to a single game or even genre feels extremely short sighted. Stellar Blade is also one of only games with this kind of content in the past decade or so. Unless Stellar Blade is a massive success and triggers a giant wave of sexed up early 2000's sexualization I really don't think Stellar Blade is going to do a lot of damage to the world, at least compare to the legion of Andrew Tate clones shitting it up in podcasts.

That dude still fails because he thinks the 2000’s sexualization somehow harmed the world. The same forum that defends nudes on Twitch or Drag Shows for children. Princess Chicle can admit she likes to wank with imaginary lesbians but god forbid some ass in a AAA video game.

I'm gonna just repost this here for posterity, but I've seen the "Eve's based on an IRL person!!" argument too much for my liking.

Cuz I'm not sure what they kept: Her face was crafted by the dev team and her body was clearly redesigned for way more curves.
It's makes me sad when, even outside this context, the models aren't good enough lol :/

They should have chosen Lizzo and grift the body positive movement.

Her ass would cover too much of the screen.

[Averon]

Now they are straight up dabbling in conspiracies:

I just don't understand what was the point of using a real person as a model reference if they had no intention of basing anything beyond maybe a couple of body animations from the model directly.

I'm not one to usually speculate in this manner, but given the studio in question... having an almost naked woman around to ogle? Outside of that my best guess is maybe it makes it easier to rig the skeleton by having a base capture? This isn't my field so I have no actual idea, just a guess.

 

You're probably not far off from the mark in speculation. It feels like if all they needed was someone to motion capture, they could have just picked anyone off of the street honestly. I feel bad for the model doing all of that work in her underwear and not even having the character based off of her. There was nothing wrong with the model at all. :/